Ed do a video on the gm jet truck, rotary engines or thunderbirds

Yep; if you talk about turbine powered cars you can't ignore Rover (Jet 1 and such)!

Ed, as someone training to be an aircraft mechanic, although I haven't started working with any turbine engines, I feel confident enough in saying - this idea isn't horrible

Even FIAT developed a turbine car concept

I thought there was a production turbine Corvair, but after googling it was a flat 6 with a turbo?! In the 60s?

agreed. they could have owners sign a waiver taking complete responsibility those cars are gems.

To many btch boy bean counters and not enough ✋ on engineers these days, and that plus unions torpedoed our Auto industry

Like the EV1 years later.

Eh, Mopar mo'problems

@@Jjrmtv In the sue-happy country called the United States of America? Good luck...

Cool story! I really don't think that he needed premium, tho. The turbines would run on anything that burned, including perfume and booze.

Wow thanks for sharing. That's just history beeing made right there!

I heard a story years ago (Motortrend has ran stories for years; the first time I remember reading anything about these cars was in 1983) about a housewife that was selected to drive one of these and she told her gas station attendant to put kerosene in; and he argued with her not knowing about the car.

How was the sound? I'm curious

Those were the days! Thanks, for recounting the tale. Amazing, American Car.

That's funny dad.

The insurance premiums would be low, but after a wreck like that, they'd mushroom.

And you thought the Ford Pinto was explosive.

Lol.

Realistically, you'd just end up with a really hot radioactive mess.

Considering the size of those fins, it would mean an ice age. No sarcasm there, my favorite car is the 59 Cadillac/Miller-Meteor hearse/ambulance/convertible.

More like Rodhog day..

Lol ☺

Very cool John!

@@THROTTLEPOWER thanks🤓

@@Johnoines 👍👍

My day applied to be one of those test drivers but wasn’t selected - he and I were really disappointed! It would have been an amazing experience.

That should have read “my DAD”. (Fat fingers strikes again!)

This might interest you, if you long for turbines... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nblii9qkrqy6o2Q.html

The Offspring of the turbine car still lives on in A1 Abrams around the world! You could really say that its a different driving experience 😁

@@pjtfinland1794 Chrysler had absolutely nothing to do with the design or manufacture of the AGT-1500 gas turbine engine that powers the M1 Abrams. The AGR-1500 was designed by former Nazi engineer Dr. Anselm Franz and was manufacturered by LYCOMING. Franz designed the engines for the Messerschmitt Me-262 and the Bell UH1 and AH1 helicopters and the Boeing CH47 helicopters

@@sandervanderkammen9230 oh dear! And another misinformation that I had... But didn't chrysler military have something to do with either the turbine or the tank itself?

@@pjtfinland1794 The M1 Abrams was designed by German company _Krauss Maffei_ to U.S. Army Ordnance Department specifications. General Motors and Chrysler Defense div. were the bidders to manufacturer the M1 in the United States.

I saw a documentary about these that said some of the engineers got a case of whiskey and poured it all in a Turbine, and drove it around the test track at 120 MPH. They were excited by that, but the older heads thought it was a waste of good whiskey. Another time, they got a shitload of bottles of perfume, and the Turbine actually ran perfectly on it. The engineers tried every kind of liquid that'd burn that they could think of, and the test cars ran on every one.

Very cool!!!!!!!!!

I bet the emmissions were much lower.

Great story!

Those mad scientists a Dodge recently showcased a Charger electric muscle car with an ICE noise generator. I can imagine an OCD Williams Research turbine engineer secretly designing a small modern turboshaft engine to stuff under the hood to serve as an EV battery charger/short range supplemental propulsion engine/noise maker to give that EV Charger monster range.

Steve is doing great work. Not just cars, but especially civil asset forfeiture, i.e. cash thefts on good people by law enforcement. I like Steve. He's one of the last voices of reason in a world of utter insanity and stupidity.

I knew about his KZfaq but i didn't know he was so much into cars he wrote books! That's so cool!

Funny enough, he only mentioned about his books on his channel today. I never knew.

@@KarlHamilton He mentioned his books a couple times on his VinWiki appearances, but he seems to be a fairly humble guy, so it's not a major surprise that he didn't mention the books on his personal channel.

A major setback about using a gas turbine even as a hybrid generator is that thermal efficiency goes down when made so small. You want the turbine blades to be as close to the housing walls as possible to stop air leaking backwards, but when your engine is so small, getting the right tolerances becomes a nightmarish task. So for safety reasons you leave more of a gap, and therefore you have a bigger percent of air leaking out. Heavier though they may be, the valves of piston engines ensures that the air taken in upon intake is still there for compression.

@@Appletank8 With modern engineering I can only imagine how much more efficiency we could squeeze out of the engine, or at least retrofit them all. Too bad most were destroyed. This car and the Dobler steam car are my two favorites in Jay Leno's collection.. just wow.

@@Nathriel Eh, I doubt there's that much you can do there. Jet turbines are still being made for aircraft, and the M1 tank also uses a turbine powerplant. All indications over the 50 years of development since the Turbine Car cancelation is that turbine efficiency goes up with size, not down, which is a problem when confined to the hood of a car. While there are few moving parts, what parts you do have are inevitably expensive due to the high heat and RPM the turbine blades must endure. Hell, even as a hybrid generator there's a problem in that generators often have to turn on and off multiple times as the car starts and stops, which is a problem because turbine start up is one of the most significant stressors in its lifecycle. The only alternative is to keep them running, which will save you blade life but cost a lot of fuel, in which case you might as well use a wankel.

I was a kid growing up in Cleveland, Ohio during that time. Their automotive museum was called the Thompson Auto Museum,....I moved away from Cleveland in 1977, and I still wonder if the museum is still around or has the same name. I used to go to it all the time,...and I know I have hundreds of "Kodak Insta-matic" snap shots in a closet in my house. I saw the Turbine car, and many antique ones from every era there. My most favorite thing to do when I was a kid, was to get my folks to take me there. Cleveland also hosted many auto shows, in their downtown, indoors arena. Those were every year, and they featured many custom cars, and ones designed for the TV shows of the day.

BMW produced the first gas turbine vehicles in 1944...

When Frank Whittle and Power Jets ran out of money, because the Air Ministry had "cold feet", the Govt. gave the work to Rover, which subsequently passed it on to RR.

@@john1703 Frank Whittle made alot of enemies in the British aircraft industry, in particular the Royal Aircraft Establishment after plagerizing the work of A.A Griffiths the Chief of Engine Development.

@@john1703 The real geniuses of the British jet engine program was Adrian Lombard at Rover and Stanley Hooker at Rolls-Royce.

Can't think of anything that would be wrong with a Rover built turbine vehicle🤣

Jay's channel is beyond belief. Is there any car he doesn't have? If I did mushrooms and dreamed up a car, I'd probably get a notification from Jay's Garage the next day, and it'd be on the video.

Jay not only owns one of the two surviving cars in private hands, he also owns a turbine powered motorcycle. Nobody is cooler than Jay.

@@TheOtherBill He also had his own Turbine car made, I believe with an engine out of a helicopter. It has a custom body with Corvette suspension. It's so loud you have to use headset radios to be able to talk inside of it.

@@benkeysor7576 The EcoJet!

That's not true, Chrysler had absolutely nothing to do with the development or production of the Lycoming AGT-1500. The engine was designed by Nazi engineer Dr. Anselm Franz who also designed the engines for the Messerschmitt Me-262, Bell UH1, AH1 and Boeing CH47 Chinook helicopters. Franz was the head of gas turbine engines and Vice President of Lycoming.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 have you lost your mind?

@@kevinbarry71 No, you are obviously not familiar with the history of the Lycoming AGT-1500 gas turbine engine. Dr. Anselm Franz developed an enlarged version of the Jumo -004 Orkan turbojet called the 109-012, this became the core gas generator for the GT 250 gas turbine tank engine, it was intended to complete again the BMW GT 101 tank engine first tested in a Panther tank in 1944. Franz moved to America after the war as part of Operation Paperclip and went to work for Lycoming, work on the GT250 resumed as the Lycoming PLT-25 and tested in a M-48 Patton tank. The PLT-25 became a U.S. Government program in 1965 and was renamed the TF-15 for the Navy and AGT-1500 for the U.S. Army. Dr. Franz would become the vice-president of Avco-Lycoming. Any questions?

@@sandervanderkammen9230 But still, among all the participants in the competition, only Chrysler Defence submitted the layout of the tank with a gas turbine engine. As far as I know, before that there were no tanks in mass production with a gas turbine engine. Only inspired by Abrams, the Soviet Union soon after that created their T-80 with the same type of engine. So it is quite possible that they still applied some experience with such engines.

@@arround1 There were 4 different engines proposed and tested during the XM1 trials 3 Diesel engines and the Lycoming AGT-1500 . The first production tank powered by a Gas turbine engine is Sweden's S-Tank powered by a Caterpillar gas turbine engine in 1967. Gas turbine tanks are nothing new in 1975, the first was the German Panther II in 1944, powered by a BMW GT 101 (based on the -003 turbojet engines that powered the Arado AR-234 jet bomber) And second the British FV200 Centurion in 1954, powered by a Parsons 2979 gas turbine. Lycoming originally installed the Junkers Jumo GT-250 aka "PLT-25" in a surplus M48 Patton tank in 1968. It was submitted for consideration as the possible powerplant for the Krauss Maffei _KpfPz 70_ the American version called the MBT-70 which involved into the Krauss Maffei XM815 and eventually renamed the XM1 program. Ford/FMC and Krauss Maffei dropped out of XM1 contract submissions leaving General Motors and Chrysler as the only bidders. The Army picked the winner of trials test which was the Diesel powered GM version.

Also one in the Museum of Transport in St. Louis.

Jay Leno owns the only one in private hands, and he said you could even run it on cologne if you wanted too.

No, it didn't... the Lycoming AGT-1500 gas turbine was designed by Nazi engineer Dr Anselm Franz who designed the engines for the Messerschmitt Me-262 and Bell UH1 and AH1 also the Boeing CH47 Chinook helicopters

I'm a lifetime L.A. resident and old enough to remember how bad the air was 50 years ago. Driving north on the 405 freeway through Sepulveda Pass, I'd come over the crest and see the San Fernando Valley spread out before me -- with a thick brown haze hanging in the sky. Half the time the smog was so bad that I couldn't see the mountains just a short distance away.

@@scotpens Yeah, we moved there from Oregon in 1961. Many days in summer it was so bad I couldn't see to either end of our residential block, and we lived about in the middle. I'm in my mid-70s now with lung problems that I'm certain were caused from living around L.A. for about 40 years. The problem with newer cars with catalytic converters (since 1973 or 4) is that the pollution now is mostly not visible, but it includes acid generated by the converters and coming out the tailpipes.

A well deserved 1,000 likes so far!

R.I.P. Chrysler 1924 - 1998

That's still a bailout; the government promised money to keep the lights on at Chrysler. That they weren't required to make good on that pledge doesn't change that.

He did make thst clear.

If you watch the video where he mentions that, the word ‘Fake’ pops up bottom-right.

I thought it was smashing.

The front and rear styling of the Turbine Car was strongly influenced by Ford's 1958 La Galaxie concept car, also designed by Engel.

Wrong, Nazi engineer Dr Anselm Franz designed the Lycoming AGT-1500 gas turbine That powers the M1 Abrams. Chrysler had absolutely nothing to do with its design or manufacture.

Dr Anselm Franz designed the engines for the Messerschmitt Me-262... the BELL UH1, BELL AH1 and Boeing CH47 Chinook helicopters too

Now you know why the globalists invented things like the EPA. Weaken the West, ultimately destroying it. Make giant money more dominant every day. The Great Reset isn't some new idea that they've got up their sleeves, waiting to spring on the world one day. That's the cover story they invented so you won't notice that it's been going on for longer than any of us have been alive.

Sadly there is nothing left to report.

@@moestrei The Mad Max car!!