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Chris Broussard, Nick Wright and Kevin Wildes react to New York Jets Head Coach Robert Saleh's endorsement of QB Zach Wilson. Saleh said: "Zach is our guy" when asked about his plans at QB vs. Dallas Cowboys in Week 2.
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@FirstThingsFirst 9 ай бұрын

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@deschloro 9 ай бұрын

Brou: throw it 20-25 times Nick:…a month 😂😂😂

@ACU_misfit 9 ай бұрын

The only mainstream sports talk worth watching.

@mgtow-balance3409 9 ай бұрын

lmfao!!

@stimulus3177 9 ай бұрын

Bout spit out my coffee at this.

@psychedelicdaemon4914 9 ай бұрын

They even said dumb down the playbook lol 😂

@stephentripp7154 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@bigben3089 9 ай бұрын

It just needs to be said over and over again that this is by far the best sports show out there. Maybe ever. Keep these three together at all costs.

@timmartin2417 9 ай бұрын

It really doesn’t need to keep being said ..: it blasted through the comments more than enough times

@daviiwonder 9 ай бұрын

Better than First Take when they had Stephen A Smith and Skip?

@Telgron7 9 ай бұрын

@@daviiwonderby far. Fair debates with little Theatrics

@bxpharoah1338 9 ай бұрын

Nick and Wildes are Trash

@thomasmajor2996 9 ай бұрын

Ya and it’s not even close. Best chemistry, hilarious, best personalities. I actually struggle to watch everyone on the new undiscovered besides Michael Irvin.

@lukewaters5953 9 ай бұрын

Nick nailed that analogy, you know he was working on that all day yesterday 😂

@marcusaurelius5149 9 ай бұрын

Busy working on his jokes.

@timmartin2417 9 ай бұрын

@@marcusaurelius5149callback

@roboliver84 9 ай бұрын

Since when is preparing a bad thing

@timesize 9 ай бұрын

Too bad Wildes had just succinctly stepped on it moments before

@kareemroyal2131 9 ай бұрын

I would say he didn’t bc a divorce is on purpose, that injury was an accident

@c_spare 9 ай бұрын

I don't understand why everyone is framing the Robert Saleh picture as anti-Zach Wilson and not pro-Aaron Rodgers. Literally every Jets fan was devastated that this happened and you expect the Head Coach of the team to be pumped up/smiling when his QB1 goes down?

@kareemroyal2131 9 ай бұрын

The media loves to hate us

@BiggieG702 9 ай бұрын

That was the loudest GULP I've ever heard! 😂😂😂 0:43

@juice6087 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@joosh5566 9 ай бұрын

I feel the worst for Garrett Wilson. This guys talent can’t be taken for granted and a second whole season with garbage QB play just isn’t fair.

@user-xv1sr3uy7p 9 ай бұрын

And a second whole season with garbage o line play

@Jasoncj099 9 ай бұрын

It's only his second season bruh ...

@shamakiooglesby6418 9 ай бұрын

GW won OPOY with a bunch of c-list passers. Give him time. Greatness shines through no matter where you are.

@daviiwonder 9 ай бұрын

Just like Dhop

@AlexGarcia-SS13NK 9 ай бұрын

@@Jasoncj099who cares

@BigHomie2333 9 ай бұрын

Why was that gulp so well timed😩😂😂😂

@communityevangelist4506 9 ай бұрын

💀💀

@russellstevens9927 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@FaceFamous 9 ай бұрын

Man that mic is the truth. Picks up everything 🤣

@JakenBake-JP 9 ай бұрын

I had my ear bud in for that and wasn't looking at the screen. I heard it and was like wtf was that. Rewound to see Brou drinking coffee 😂

@SHDrive 9 ай бұрын

Lmaoooooo

@lukeoldfield7608 9 ай бұрын

Wildes is the best, man is too funny and has some great takes too

@joh7746 9 ай бұрын

"the agent has to?" 😂

@gregorcollins 9 ай бұрын

Nick's harshness towards Zach could be viewed as dead honest, or it could be viewed as unfair, either way I really hope Zach can exceed expectations, if nothing else than to prove Nick wrong

@michealblake2253 9 ай бұрын

Nah not harsh, Zach has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt even when he had a chance to take accountability talking to the media he couldn’t even do that dudes just not it

@Bilbologna 9 ай бұрын

@@michealblake2253Did you see the press conference after the Bills game?

@Noctem_pasa 9 ай бұрын

@@michealblake2253 his first half passer rating was 0, his second half was 117 when throwing for twice as many yards. He adjusted and did what was needed to win

@russellstevens9927 9 ай бұрын

@@BilbolognaLet's see how he speaks in the press conference after their loss to Dallas. Let's see if he admits that he's a scrub. 😂😂😂

@stephentripp7154 9 ай бұрын

But he won’t 🤷🏿‍♂️

@blakebenham3130 9 ай бұрын

I think I’ll be rooting for Zach Wilson just based on Nick’s hate alone 😂

@soda8736 9 ай бұрын

Yea its over the top , what Zach do to some of these media members. Like Feilds has mabye been a tad bit better and people were saying he could be MVP before the season

@TheProphegy 9 ай бұрын

Signing Dalvin Cook was a saving grace. Leaning on Hall and Cook with that defense and finding ways to get Wilson the ball should carry them to the Playoffs, even if a wildcard.

@imreallyagoat 9 ай бұрын

Yesssss

@micahwilliams1219 9 ай бұрын

Dreaming. Everyone is coming for this teams head.

@jaredandrew9906 9 ай бұрын

Nick in mid-season form with the analogies😂

@mjcastro82 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Nick for convincing me to pick the Jets to miss the playoffs. Darn you for your Steelers make the playoffs pick...

@Blaze8910 9 ай бұрын

Tomlin can still turn the Steelers around lol

@kennethpeller7411 9 ай бұрын

After the way they played in Cincinnati it just might happen but don't count your chickens till hatched

@fernandomoras9160 9 ай бұрын

@@Blaze8910the almost pulled it off last year and they also had an atrocious start

@bryantthompson6817 9 ай бұрын

@@Blaze8910yeah right that's a good joke

@B-H76 9 ай бұрын

Steelers will make the playoffs....just a really bad start to a game

@skubaRu7 9 ай бұрын

Wildes has great takes man that’s exactly what the jets did

@steves9964 9 ай бұрын

Except what he didn't say is that Wilson lost the locker room last year not even due to very poor play but rather because of an entitled attitude. That wasn't the Jets' fault. Wildes doesn't like the Jets as it seems is the case with just about every other non-Jet fan media personality out there so again it's pile-on time. Rinse and repeat. Maybe the stars have actually aligned here for Wilson to make good after being humbled. I also disagree with the assertion that it was wrong to bring in Flacco (or anyone else) and his eventual comments about wanting to compete to be the starter. Going back to Sanchez the Jets mismanaged young quarterback situations with Sanchez, Smith, Darnold and now Wilson by drafting them very high and giving them the keys to the kingdom without any sort of competition. They were criticized for that too, and rightfully so. Heck, it took for Smith to get punched out during camp to clear the way for Fitzmagic to play in 2015 and lead the team to its only winning season since its last playoff berth in 2010. It was also the only season I can recall in nearly the last twenty that the Jets fielded a competent passing game.

@Hec5432 9 ай бұрын

Him saying what’s the point in making the playoffs was pretty dumb though. Besides the fact that the Jets have longest no playoffs streak in sports. They’ve been talking playoffs all offseason, the players want to make playoffs

@ICYMIINMIY 9 ай бұрын

0:41 You could hear Chris gulp once Nick said about the Jets being publicly divorced 😂 Don't know if it was because of what Nick said or not but it was still funny because it's such a hot take!

@Quaid5 9 ай бұрын

😂😂 I noticed that

@HippioKass 9 ай бұрын

"We want to throw the ball, maybe 25 times a ga-" "A MONTH!" lmfao

@Niiigg89 9 ай бұрын

Wildes is a gem.. he's absolutely right, you have to ride out with Zach let the team grow together

@ishaq24722 9 ай бұрын

The question is, why didn't they get a better backup in the first place? They should have prepared for this with a 39-year-old quarterback. So apparently, they have confidence in Wilson. The mistake was NOT getting a better backup. UNLESS Wilson surprisingly plays well.

@SlimeGrim 9 ай бұрын

Bc Aaron was also zachs mentor

@dnative93 9 ай бұрын

Bruh people acting like Wilson been in the league for years! He still a young QB. He was a high draft pick. They have more weapons now and he has more experience. Let’s see what the kid got. Last season wasn’t the best but they had a horrible online

@jubelraye3782 9 ай бұрын

Best sports show on television!

@cbee__ 9 ай бұрын

y’all gotta be some bots

@jubelraye3782 9 ай бұрын

Nope! Just passionate sports fans that know a great thing when we see it! @@cbee__

@zcam1969 9 ай бұрын

NOT

@DaDankStrafe 9 ай бұрын

3:30 Nick: “a month" 😂😂

@thefantasticvizzionary7411 9 ай бұрын

Jets have to give Zach another chance😂 hopefully with ARod there, he can learn from him and take a step in the right direction. Regardless, they will be a decent team with that defense and offensive weapons.

@djboogieboy 9 ай бұрын

Aron aint helping squat!😂

@Matthewjolicoeurr 9 ай бұрын

A rod won’t be there for awhile to help regardless mans has to heal. Not mentor lack lilson

@ruddodasav1227 9 ай бұрын

What if he gets hurt

@lkhguycrazy 9 ай бұрын

@djboogieboy if Tony Romo boosted Dak, ARod can boost Zach. If Zach can become a Kirk, that's great for the Jets

@cedrickcarson 9 ай бұрын

@@lkhguycrazythat’s what I’m saying. I mean he’s still a 2nd overall pick. Y’all mean to tell me after one game into this season it’s time to get someone else in? 😂

@JustinSimperlake 9 ай бұрын

0:42 LOUDEST GULP OF ALL TIME

@TheRealestRuler817 9 ай бұрын

Sounded like a toilet

@prolific1518 9 ай бұрын

Think that was the cup hitting the table lol

@hydrashokgaming6400 9 ай бұрын

“The agent has to?” 😂😂😂😂

@jaycewells207 9 ай бұрын

The last line wildes said before it cut off 😭😭😭 “ next thing you know sauce gets one-“

@RealTimePogo 9 ай бұрын

Jets “we wish zack could be like Brock”

@ericcallahan829 9 ай бұрын

Making the playoffs is important for the jets. If they can do that and the young guys can get a playoff game or two of experience it will be good if rodgers can come back next year

@mgtow-balance3409 9 ай бұрын

yeah man, making the playoffs is ALWAYS good

@ericvolkman1490 9 ай бұрын

They ain’t making the playoffs and IF rogers comes back it will be week 4 next yr I agree with wilds tank and get a new start qb in next yrs draft

@marcusaurelius5149 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely! That's how you build strong teams in the NFL. If you believe in your young players you need to take them as far as they can go.

@Hec5432 9 ай бұрын

@@ericvolkman1490week 4 next year? Since when does an Achilles take over a year to heal?

@jaisriram295 9 ай бұрын

Yet Fields was Dead Last in other major QB categories but we shouldn't mention that 😂

@jays306 9 ай бұрын

Brou with the HEAVY gulp 0.43

@user-gy3gu3ep3p 9 ай бұрын

Wilde's is wrong about Wilson. You know how bad on and off the field you gotta be to get benched as the number 2 pick? The teammates liked literally every other QB better than him and he wasn't out performing them either really. You can't waste the upside and success of 52 other guys when you see that he isn't the guy by no means. Then to mention those interviews he gave during the season as well. He's been a bust every step of the way.

@bellcranel8873 9 ай бұрын

I am really enjoying this show! Beautiful analogy!

@stxx1982 9 ай бұрын

I would ask Nick what are the Jets suppose to say? They should do everything to try to boost Wilson's confidence. It'd hilarious if the Jets make it to the AFC championship with him as the starting QB

@mcncheese69 9 ай бұрын

There winning the super bowl

@aroperdope 9 ай бұрын

And how are they going to boost his confidence after benching him last season, and bringing in someone to replace him? Lip service is not going to help

@steves9964 9 ай бұрын

@@aroperdope Wilson was benched last season because of his attitude. There would have been a mutiny if they kept him under center after that second New England game up there. What's wrong with him being humbled? If he's a competitor and actually cares about his craft then maybe he'll learn from the benching, work harder and come back better. From all accounts he's seemed to handle things very well, including dealing with Rodgers' arrival. But this idea that the Jets did Wilson wrong is laughable. He did himself wrong. He was more interested in his ego and banging MILFs than improving. They did Darnold and Sanchez wrong, not Wilson.

@aroperdope 9 ай бұрын

@@steves9964 I agree with you. Benched because of his attitude and because of his play. Not to mention he didn't take ownership over those detriments

@hoodiemelo1565 9 ай бұрын

Qb2 on his way to 6 wins with an amazing defense

@kevinallen1244 9 ай бұрын

That analogy awas awsome!

@arkhamknight6371 9 ай бұрын

So Zach is the only QB in the world who can't improve?, he had a rookie OC his first 2 years who was clueless..Can't wait till they beat the chiefs so Nick can just shut up

@camronbruney2523 9 ай бұрын

Great job Nick Wright 😂

@vbesttube 9 ай бұрын

😅😅 laughing out loud with Nick analogy😅😅. Man!, he is great😂😂

@markprice5651 9 ай бұрын

Most of these guys were saying Jordan Love was going to be horrible after 3 years under Rodgers...now some of them are saying a couple months around Rodgers will make Wilson better? Yeah, that's consistent

@Pkilla80 9 ай бұрын

They are just looking for a silver lining playing devil's advocate. We all know Zach is trash and should be working at Wendy's

@waderinga7662 9 ай бұрын

Nick has been saying that Jordan Love seems to be good for the last year

@lakeozarkrei3767 9 ай бұрын

Huh? Never heard one of em say that Love was gonna be horrible for sitting behind Rodgers. 😂 You sure you just not trying to create a narrative?🤔

@markprice5651 9 ай бұрын

@@waderinga7662 I'll give you that...but the other two, particularly Brou, have been saying Jordan Love would not be good

@NateBranson 9 ай бұрын

The Wildes intros are elite journalism

@vincentoravec261 9 ай бұрын

Brilliant analogy by Nick to lead things off. That's exactly what NYJ did.

@RobertMichael 9 ай бұрын

“I don’t have the ‘06 quarterbacks committed to memory” “Embarrassing” 😂😂😂😂

@orochimaru3950 9 ай бұрын

That gulp by brou killing me @44

@ikennanzewi6456 9 ай бұрын

Wildes is def the best debate mod in the biz

@michaelryan2925 9 ай бұрын

I love how they keep showing graphics of “most since 2022” last year got it.

@kingchino4990 9 ай бұрын

Nick wakes up hating 😂😂😂

@zacharydavis3379 9 ай бұрын

0:40 did they add a gulp? lol

@Says_me 9 ай бұрын

A full start against the Dallas def. It’s a tough go for Zach

@youngdez8314 9 ай бұрын

not if you running the ball and don't turn the ball over 22 passes max, top 2 defense, dak better hope he don't be josh allen 2.0 with 4 interception

@TC-gx3qn 9 ай бұрын

Great wedding analogy, Nick. Brou is rubbing off on you. 😊 Nice tie, too. 🔥

@joshbrewer894 9 ай бұрын

Anybody else think that was a loud gulp from Brou at the beginning😂😂

@QuDotG34 9 ай бұрын

😂🤣🤣🤣

@Kidkinsey 9 ай бұрын

Nick saying there's no path is kinda a stretch. The jets nearly made it last year

@YZXRezie14 9 ай бұрын

I hope Zach does good just because everyone doubts him I like the underdogs

@cjturner370 9 ай бұрын

Me too

@dimitrythomas4158 9 ай бұрын

I honestly had no faith in Zach Wilson. However, Nick Wright saying he will definitely be terrible, historically gives him a very good chance to be good and lead the Jets to the playoffs. Nick’s horrendous record on projecting and evaluating QBs is legendary.

@trikk9964 9 ай бұрын

... you got that right.

@caseykohn7874 9 ай бұрын

Nick is literally the only person in the country who has been right on Josh Allan… and Trevor Lawerance… he’s not batting 1000 of course but he’s better than most… watch Stephan A 😂😂

@dimitrythomas4158 9 ай бұрын

@@caseykohn7874 Lol, you must be related to Nick. In 2017-2020 Nick said Josh Allen was a terrible QB and would lose his job. Josh Allen has been a top 5 QB in the NFL the last 3 years. Your dumb as% is lost if you think Nick was right 2-Nick said “Herbert will be a terrible QB in the NFL” Daniel Jones will he terrible and Haskins will be great, Darnold would be the best QB in his class, and Tom Brady was done in 2016. Nick is the worst

@stoilstoilov2108 9 ай бұрын

a month.. what an epic line😂

@dariesbutler3304 9 ай бұрын

“Then the crazy” 😂😂😂🤦🏾

@michaelsears6702 9 ай бұрын

There’s no reason anyone should be trashing Zach Wilson yet. Yeah he did bad the past 2 years but he did have Aaron mentor him before the season started. We don’t know how good or bad he will be yet. I personally think he’ll do better because of Aaron and because he knows this is probably the last chance he has to prove himself

@AbandonedRaven 9 ай бұрын

I must say, I didn’t expect to hear a “Runaway Bride” with Julia Roberts reference in the first few minutes of this show, but it is greatly appreciated.

@SuperKris50 9 ай бұрын

30-13 Cowboys .. 5 sacks, 2 ints for dallas defense

@willandizzle 9 ай бұрын

I’m not convinced the cowboys can put up a 30 spot on this defense. Maybe another defense/special teams takeover

@Bighoodiekid 9 ай бұрын

@@willandizzleif anyone can hang 30 on the Jets Dallas is definitely one of them

@davidspelich8369 9 ай бұрын

@@willandizzleit wouldn't all come from the offense. Dallas takes the ball away... a lot, even last season. And they turn those into points, on defense. 16 from it last game. Not saying they'll do that every game, but between it and giving your offense short fields... points pile up.

@zachary2072 9 ай бұрын

Cowgirls letting that game go to their head, you ain’t putting up 30

@davidspelich8369 9 ай бұрын

@@zachary2072 you were saying?

@mattmorrissey6248 9 ай бұрын

This segment seems like the first time in a while I’ve seen mainstream sports media just talking ball and not pushing narratives. Hope there’s more to come

@bryanlauer1176 9 ай бұрын

Love the show! Need Wildes gulping to calm down, legit happens every-time Nick starts lol!

@JakenBake-JP 9 ай бұрын

I thought that was Brou drinking coffee lol

@cman640 9 ай бұрын

“A month” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jamoore01 9 ай бұрын

@0:42 The hardest swallow EVER!

@matthewsawczyn6592 9 ай бұрын

"The agent has to?" 🏈🤣

@Killz89130 9 ай бұрын

“Approving via osmosis” is probably the only thing Nick has ever said that I liked 😂

@rasserfrasser 9 ай бұрын

Even with Wilson's first game posting a much higher completion percentage than previous years against a very good Bills defense. They're not going to get the long ball out of him, and with that offensive line he's more likely to get injured than show results (good OR bad). But because their team is so stacked in every other department, you can still look for the Jets to at least be spoilers and if lucky land a wild card spot down the stretch, but that's about as magical as it's going to get.

@casanova76544 9 ай бұрын

Will help with preparation

@daviidtaplin1115 9 ай бұрын

Big problem now a days years ago we never taught our team to play to lose..

@dakotashanenunley6928 9 ай бұрын

“A month.” 😂

@vh0027 9 ай бұрын

Nick and Wilds agree on Zach situation, such a bromance moment

@samritter1031 9 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the path with thorns, thistles and land mines, take me down that path Brou 🤣💀

@DonnieDin 9 ай бұрын

I love this show 😂

@andresparry8104 9 ай бұрын

Nick didn’t go through the tape, Zach’s first game as a pro was impressive. He made two huge TD throws while running for his life after every body watched his soul leave his body on a brutal sack against the panthers. He has had REALLY good moments and REALLY bad moments. Don’t good coaches say that if I have seen a player do something once I can coach them to do it every time?? He has hurt himself a lot, no question, but we know he has a bad O-Line and it sure as heck seems Like his defensive head coach doesn’t know how to develop a quarterback.

@negative2positve380 9 ай бұрын

He didn't say tape, gamelog

@PearlOFGreatPrice1899 9 ай бұрын

Don’t forget Brou, the Bears had Devin Hester! Major contributor to the Bears making the SB.

@johndailey2323 9 ай бұрын

Taylor heinke, Winston, cooper rush, minnshew, drew lock a few suggestions

@JP-ld6nx 9 ай бұрын

I don't think Zach Wilson is good, however, we saw what happened to Aaron Rodgers after standing behind that O-Line for 4 plays. I'm looking at Zach having to endure that for 2 seasons and it paints a picture why he hasn't developed much, dude running for his life all the time.

@ceejordan9649 9 ай бұрын

And bout to get some more miles in Sunday

@minaaaaaaa1 9 ай бұрын

wildes's gulp💀

@brau3690 9 ай бұрын

Why is this the only channel videos wont load on?

@Ishmaelgaynor 9 ай бұрын

Nick doesn’t watch jets games When he went on the road into Tennessee and Threw for 300+ yards That was one of his best games! The only problem is He’s consistently injured! And they don’t play an Offense that fits HIS GAME! They don’t have enough RPO’s and enough Movement in the pocket for him

@Noctem_pasa 9 ай бұрын

he also did really well in (3 quarters of) detroit last year

@truthtransistorradio6716 9 ай бұрын

The Jets just beat the Bills with Zach Wilson! Why are they acting like they can't do anything without Aaron Rogers?

@worstcaseofcrabsever5510 9 ай бұрын

Jets should hire 2 more QBs. This way if Z. Wilson get hurt they have 2 backups and the backups can be in competition. This will give them more options. Go after Mike White and Taylor Heineke--maybe Cooper Rush and Tyler Huntley if you can get their teams to let them go. Maybe even call some guys off of the couch like Brady, Fitzpatrick, Rothlisberger or Foles. Having only 2 QBs on a roster is hella sketch. 4 used to be standard years ago.

@Slo-Mo 9 ай бұрын

The Jets let Wilson try to be the franchise QB and he wasn’t. They then tried the game manager route and he failed at that. No surprise when they bring in the next guy.

@user-dl5rc7uk1u 9 ай бұрын

Love this show along with Cowboys Cave!

@Zach845 9 ай бұрын

I love Chris Broussard

@cisco01real1 9 ай бұрын

So nick wants the jets to trade for guys that have never taken a snap in a playoff game?.. might as well just keep zach and go from there.

@kaalz1178 9 ай бұрын

If jets gets cooper rush it would be a heck of a story

@jungleclickmotorsports 9 ай бұрын

In regards to their commentation and the cowboys and the Jets schedule I need that same energy because when the cowboys beat all of these teams that supposed to be unbeatable I want to hear that sucker talk about but but those guys no buts buts.... You can only play who's on your schedule

@cedricrobinson4838 9 ай бұрын

Nick the only sports guy who says 1000 words to complete one sentence 😂😂😂

@junwu9828 9 ай бұрын

Finally Nick made a perfect point 😊

@mikedelape6609 9 ай бұрын

jets will not miss the playoffs, that team is way too good

@SimplyChaotic98 9 ай бұрын

Zack Wilson’s gonna shock the world

@keithholmes1300 9 ай бұрын

I stg they said the same thing about NY nd Danny lol

@HardCold-Alquan 9 ай бұрын

I swear, I cannot understand how some people are or were writers for prestigious newspapers with their bad diction.

@jacksoncooper5290 9 ай бұрын

I want full episodes so bad on KZfaq

@lchaney 9 ай бұрын

They have the full episode in audio and when you put the 3 videos daily together, you're not missing much if anything.

@evanarthur5324 9 ай бұрын

Bro said the path is filled with land mines 😭😭😭

@MrVlodato 9 ай бұрын

I think wilson will be better then most people think. But i also think the ceiling is 11-6 at its best and theres no way there are wining the division, i think they split games with the pats and bills and loose both to miami.