Finishing off one of my favourite games of all time with the co-op/multiplayer achievements. This is a tough one!
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@PasqualItizzz6 ай бұрын
My greatest GH3 achievement was coming home drunk and forgetting I couldn't do Knights of Cydonia on hard, then finding I'd completed it, the next day.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Maybe I should have tried that to speed up the process haha
@PasqualItizzz6 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays It helps take the edge off :)
@chrishughes93394 ай бұрын
That was the one song I always failed on hard
@PasqualItizzz4 ай бұрын
@@chrishughes9339 Booze, a mild pain killer or cybernetic hand, should do the trick! ;)
@Thebestminecrafter694 ай бұрын
Me currently
@The_J2Holic6 ай бұрын
The fact this dude is willing to put himself through such pain just for content and 100%'ing shows this guy has balls, really gotta respect this absolute chad for going through all of this just for this
@assordante22056 ай бұрын
Shows he has nothing better to do with himself and that he likes inflicting pain on himself.
@The_J2Holic6 ай бұрын
@@assordante2205 or ya know, could be just challenging himself for entertainment and wanting a sense of closure knowing Guitar Hero 3 can now be played for fun purposes without the need to 100% on his main account
@GloomRng6 ай бұрын
@@assordante2205 making money doing a hobby you enjoy is honestly so lame
@nseet46836 ай бұрын
Ollie coming in clutch for this channel. What a guy. I know you say he doesn't care about getting achievements but his sacrifice is not lost on us. Salute to the boy
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Ollie is a legend, no doubt!! I'll be bringing him back for many many games in future vids
@markszymanski53294 ай бұрын
Ollie has to be the most British name ever
@lucidwanders6 ай бұрын
Your videos are always a treat because you generally do something different than every other achievement channel, love to see the uploads
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Means a lot, thank you! There's always going to be the 'classics' but I try to think of some more unique(painful) ones to mix it up very much appreciate the kind words
@Thabeast7214 ай бұрын
I remember dragging my friend to my house so many times to knock out all these coop achievements. I was good enough to carry us to 5 stars on the expert songs. The one that gave the biggest trouble was the 1 million points on coop. There wasn't any DLC to play, so we opted for One with me on expert and him on medium. I remember being so frustrated that these couldn't be done online haha
@RedTV88886 ай бұрын
Massive and incredibly honorable GG bro
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thank you sir
@morgansbasement6 ай бұрын
What a great video! I love the variety you bring to the scene. You low-key have some of the most mechanically tough achievement videos out there, and it's always a treat to enjoy the journey!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words, thank you! I enjoyed your DS2 video, I need to do that myself but it's pretty daunting haha. Looking forward to seeing what else you take on!
@morgansbasement6 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays If you can move your hands fast enough to FC expert songs in GH3, DS2 will be nothing but an Interlude haha. Can't wait to see what comes next!
@PwnageSoldier6 ай бұрын
Good shit to you and Ollie for getting those insane co-op achievements, and that amount of dedication towards boosting the online achievements is insane, but super admired. GG on another one down, can't wait to see your next upload! On a separate note, having a third and final short tribute video to GH3, where you and Ollie vs eachother in the online on facecam together would be pretty fun to watch if you ever wanted to do that, not necessarily your regular content, but a cool small video idea nonetheless
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Haha that is a nice idea! I definitely want to tackle some of the later GH games but realistically won't be getting ALL of the achievements.. so could do something like that to add a bit more content to the videos. Will have a think! and thanks, glad you enjoy them!
@atlsoldier275 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed these videos. I too had completed all achievements in this game, but it was years and years ago when it was still popular and active. It was such a fun time.
@RiseOfZedekiel6 ай бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing. Love it. Also, big shout out to Ollie. That is a good friend.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Absolutely, a very good friend indeed. and thank you! got lots more planned... glad you enjoy them!
@lukeaurora5 ай бұрын
Ive gotten completely back into guitar hero after my best friend came thru while I was visiting my hometown and we hit the 1mil achievement in coop in GH2 effectively completing that game off my achievement list after 11 or so years! Now we’re tackling GH3 and I gotta say… this is easily one of the absolute best achievement videos I’ve ever seen and the sheer difficulty of this completion is immense! Awesome to see the sacrifice you’ve made for these 2 videos and completion! I salute you my legend!
@GloomRng6 ай бұрын
Them speedy fingers go me swoonin'
@MMA-mh9uv6 ай бұрын
been waiting for this part to to this series. awesome job. I enjoyed the watch!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!! Will definitely be taking on more guitar hero games in the future
@sulrich3846 ай бұрын
literally popped off when I saw you made the part 2😭😭 keep up the amazing work!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Hope you liked it!! Going to work through as much of the GH series as I can. Thanks!!
@McGuire406956 ай бұрын
So glad to see you came back and got the rest of the songs completed!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@LuniFoxo6 ай бұрын
great video, i enjoyed watching it all the way through. guitar hero has to be my favourite rhythm game, so it's nice to see people still talk about it
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! I've started recording GH2 but it might be a while that one... need a guitar hero break haha and thank you!
@robynguevara60226 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlayson the bright side at least with GH2 you don’t have to worry about online achievements
@moosinaround96446 ай бұрын
I had just watched the first guitar hero video yesterday and come to find out the second releases today, incredible
@AriochStarr6 ай бұрын
Good work on the Achievement FC; a well deserved one after all the trouble you've gone through for it. It was also my dream to earn every achievement on every Guitar Hero and Rock Band game but, sadly at the time, I sucked and by the time I became somewhat decent people moved on and the series became dormant. Proud of you, Jack, and congratulations!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the nice words! Yeah getting all the achievements in the series is completely impossible now due to some servers being shut down also :( I'm going to do as many of the guitar hero games as possible though!!
@uTobias6 ай бұрын
To get this completion not once but twice is an insane accomplishment! Great video :)
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thank you!! Appreciate it Keep up your stuff also!
@Spartan122S6 ай бұрын
Your grinding in 100’ing is so insane it makes me wanna 100% every game I’ve played so far over Xbox Live. You’ve got my respect for your hard work!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!! and yeah i've enjoyed doing this for a long time, and now enjoy turning the grinds into vids! got lots more planned.. so many games
@Maceyoshiman6 ай бұрын
This channel made me finish up my achievements for Fallout 3 and MW2. Dusting off the old 360 was tons of fun!
@claytonkohut11956 ай бұрын
love these, would love to see a brutal legend video soon!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Have never played that but it's been mentioned before so it's on my list!
@Harlfcab6 ай бұрын
Guitar Hero 3 had a huge impact on my music preferences. 'Holiday In Cambodia' has been stuck in my head for about 15 years. 😅 So cool you had Ollie to co-op with you. Sent me down memory lane with this one! Great content as always.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Planning on covering as much of the guitar hero series as I can so lots more to come. and yes it has banger after banger thats for sure
@Harlfcab6 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays your commitment is unreal! I tried going into the Left for dead series to 100% them after watching you do it. I lasted about 3 hours 😂
@Highlight_Hotel5 ай бұрын
we def need more guitar hero achievement videos for sure in the future.
@JForJackPlays5 ай бұрын
Got a couple more on the go already!
@Tman-bf9he6 ай бұрын
This is amazing! Congrats on this achievement man. Ollie is also a clutch friend lmao
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Yes, yes he is ❤️
@ii_Cryptiq6 ай бұрын
Oh man if I'd have known you were doing these I'd have happily fired up the old 360 and busted some of these out with you, looking at your gameplay I'd say I'm around the same skill level, but you've just motivated me to bust it out anyway 😂 awesome videos man
@StunnyBruh6 ай бұрын
This video brought back some good memories. I put several thousand hours into GH3 😅 Wish that I could find a Guitar controller, id get back into the game in a heartbeat
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Such a great series.. slowly working on some more guitar hero vids!
@shelbeemillwee61696 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this I've been waiting for this
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoyed
@shelbeemillwee61696 ай бұрын
I did it was amazing
@danbanasik22124 ай бұрын
Well done to you on FC’ing GH3. I’ve been re-playing some of the GH games lately on the Xbox 360, but wouldn’t dream of setting out to achievement hunt on any of these games. I can make it through (sometimes barely) pretty much all songs on expert, but usually 4 stars is my ceiling on the hardest songs.
@danbanasik22124 ай бұрын
Oh and by “pretty much” all songs on expert, I meant to exclude Through the Fire and Flames (ever, ever)-- And I am currently stuck on Raining Blood and One (thought I did beat these two songs when I was a kid). I did beat GH2 on expert (relatively quickly), Smash Hits and Band Hero. Waiting to take on World Tour, GH5, and Warriors of Rock for future days… But again, I am considering just beating expert good enough for me. I tip my cap 🧢 to you for FC’ing all achievements in GH3… Seriously, what amazing skill, perseverance, and dedication.
@A.Radwick6 ай бұрын
Activision should give you a bounty for 100% ing this game's achievements. Seriously one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. Me and my buddy were both very good at this game and we never even dreamed of getting every achievement.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
@Trogdor986 ай бұрын
Guitar Hero 2 and 3 are where I learned most of my favourite songs to this day
@maxpayne36066 ай бұрын
Awesome video.. I respect the hell out of the dedication. Last summer I played through every single guitar hero and rock band including all track packs and the only one I couldn't beat on expert was GH3. I just never could beat Raining Blood. I practiced and practiced over and over, but I only was able to get out of the hell raining blood section or whatever ONCE (failed immediately after due to panic...) Any tips? Also, any tips for Through the Fire and the Flames?
@DBDHeLlSKiLLeR6 ай бұрын
Ayyeee you got the final achievement on my birthday! Congratz!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Happy birthday!!
@metal89406 ай бұрын
I’m a very play guitar hero one on the ps2 the game was what got me in to rock and metal and at 17 I started playing guitars that was when I stoped playing guitar hero games
@MarkoRose_6 ай бұрын
This game seems to be crazy difficult, congratulations on the completion man
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Definitely is! Thank you kindly!
@camilo.venegas4 ай бұрын
I wish I was your friend IRL so I could have helped you get the achievements lol haven’t played in a while but I absolutely love these games
@TheBcoolGuy6 ай бұрын
Man, you're really good at GH! Significantly better than me! That's not something you can just do casually.
@jakeyjammin57896 ай бұрын
🤝🤝 the commitment! GG’s
@mckernel69956 ай бұрын
Very much looking forward for you to play the newer guitar hero games
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Going to work on getting as much of the series done as possible. Probably do Aerosmith and 2 as my next 2 music games
@Nyarlathotep7276 ай бұрын
Damn! You earned yourself a sub.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thank you!! 😁
@jeremybouchard62826 ай бұрын
New sub here: Amazing dedication congratulations!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Very much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it
@Rick.Gonzalez6 ай бұрын
such an underrated channel
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! thank you
@maggetboy6 ай бұрын
awesome video keep it coming with the guitar hero content please
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Have started recording GH2.. and there will be more... Might need a little break first though they're pretty draining! Thanks!!
@davidzrescalante5036 ай бұрын
1:09 that's the last song onel the primary set list. That I don't have five stars on. Good job.
@byrnzey5 ай бұрын
I remember just not being able to 5star raining blood. So I used to pick raining blood every time online as it’s a quick song for the 500 wins and needed practice for the 5 star
@jackm2016 ай бұрын
Fair play man what an effort
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@ryanbaker7434Ай бұрын
17:04 all I can think of is the south park guitar hero. You got a million points
@5methoxy4 ай бұрын
I just got into achievement hunting on my 360 again recently, with GH3/ GH:WT/ GH:WoR. this video made me realize just how much dedication im gonna have to have to commit 😭
@PlanetAfterlife6 ай бұрын
Commenting just for the fact that you did this Lol What a grind. And some serious skills. GG
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thanks!! Glad you appreciate haha. Got more guitar hero content planned!
@captainshiner424 ай бұрын
This is definitely harder than Rock Band 2's platinum. I got the RB2 platinum back in 2009, but will never come close to platting this.
@TaylorSwiftSimp6 ай бұрын
I remember as a kid getting the 'beat a creator at their own game' achievement. I thought i was so good
@starmandaredevil16 ай бұрын
Got a like and sub from me after seeing this nasty grind. Legend.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thanks!! Much appreciated
@AlzzehHD6 ай бұрын
Returning home from my night out to receive this video notification just confirms a great night! How are the hands?😎
@RainPlusThunderАй бұрын
i've been playin gh3 on my wii and was happy to just complete that hard mode solo. not sure if i'm happy or devastated that there aren't achievements on wii because if there were i'd totally try and get them all.
@98izzark694 ай бұрын
Would love to see you take a crack at Guitar Hero Aerosmith's achievments
@JForJackPlays4 ай бұрын
Funny you should say that! Just waiting for Ollie to be free for a co op session on it then I'll have it all recorded and ready to edit
@PJ_PSP6 ай бұрын
do you plan on finishing any other games in the series or side games like rock band or maybe dj hero?
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Definitely more guitar hero. Have started recording GH2 but might take a while.. need a break! Rock Band i highly doubt i can 100%, but could do a video on it still.. im open to anything though really! Will have a think and look into them for sure
@dcflake56454 ай бұрын
I think your biggest acheievement in this video is having a friend
@JForJackPlays4 ай бұрын
My proudest achievement to date
@TheNerdstalgicPodcast6 ай бұрын
Olly coming in to save the day again! 😅
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
The hero I don't deserve
@93kornography5 ай бұрын
Your friend is a homie.
@JForJackPlays5 ай бұрын
Yes he is!
@remaintrue21546 ай бұрын
Such a great video! Fair play to you buddy, will you ever do Dead Rising, would be interesting to your spin on it :)
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! It's one I'm planning on doing some time. Have never played it before but it seems to be a classic so I think I should give it a go!
@remaintrue21546 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays I highly recommend playing it , story line is incredible and the amount of detail added to such an old game is remarkable. Every achievement is enjoyable, plus one of the hardest achievements ever made is added onto the game :)
@poptheweasel1006 ай бұрын
the fact the co-op achievements only apply to the host is freaking cruel.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Yeah that was quite the oversight! Makes Ollie even more of a hero though
@johnmaynardelec50956 ай бұрын
I love your grind so much! Are going to complete world tour next?
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
thanks! I think aerosmith & gh2 will be the next 2 guitar hero games. but i'll definitely cover the others also! doubt i'll be able to get ALL of the achievements so i'll have to think of a way to do it!
@johnmaynardelec50956 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays I'll wait for your next content!
@ryujigoda34456 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays he won’t be able to get that done on world tour because he’s going to need to do a band achievement one man band they got a few silly online ones I did it back in a day doable, guitar hero games are gh2 gh3 Aerosmith
@mihneazoican24796 ай бұрын
Finally!!
@Deathsem6 ай бұрын
Do you have any tips for GH5 I’m trying to platinum it on my ps3 and I’m very much a rookie so any advice or tips
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
I can't remember much about GH5, i'll get a video done on it someday... but until then, I imagine it's going to be some pretty boring advice, just lots of practice! I'm not sure what the achievements are like on it to be honest. Is that the one with the annoying 4x of each instrument achievement?
@Deathsem6 ай бұрын
Idk
@Crimsongz4 ай бұрын
Good luck because the online got shut down specifically the PS3 and Wii versions only
@LegendOfLocky6 ай бұрын
nice work! if you need any help for cheevos in the other GH/RB games (assuming ollie wants to put his feet up), feel free to get in touch :)
@henrychanner40326 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a new J for Jack upload, I like.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
@nateroberts64896 ай бұрын
I’m so jealous!!! I want the million points and a good co op partner. I don’t have the DLC I just hope I could find someone whose good at TTFAF on expert and I’m decent on hard
@renerivera97156 ай бұрын
Hell yeah
@sword97035 ай бұрын
Hopefully you do the other ones, with the rest of the instruments 😈
@Snarvindur6 ай бұрын
Another banger
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@sweza25236 ай бұрын
please do the lego rockband the final countdown perfect guitar solo lol
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
I've barely played RB but I definitely plan on giving them a go for some videos in the future!! Thanks
@bradenmitchell55656 ай бұрын
E P I C
@oOignignoktOo16 ай бұрын
I just got one more achievement to go and that's for the 500 wins. I helped my boosting partner get theirs last night and I need about 100 more wins.. the 5* on co-op are the most annoying achievements because they have to be done local and not online.
@oOignignoktOo16 ай бұрын
The 750,000 points achievement is brutal as well and imo nearly impossible except for the %1 of players if it wasn't for the song "All Nightmare Long" That song atleast makes that achievement obtainable for above average players. Sadly the song is no longer available for purchase on the store since 2015 and you need to either profile share with someone who has the game that will let you license their profile to your console or you need an RGH console that lets you run unsigned (Pirated ) DLC. Fortunately for me I bought the death magnetic album back in 2010 when GH:Metallica came out.
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I'm not sure I would have the dedication to practice TTFAF enough for 750k. Seems crazy. Nicely done though, you'll have the 100% really soon!
@oOignignoktOo16 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays I can tap the intro and outro to ttfaf consistent my problem with dragonforce songs in general is the fast strumming rhythm sections I just haven't figured out the bpm / tempo to stay consistent at holding my combo on those sections and that's what filters me from 5* in the song on expert little alone getting 750k. I"ve had a few close 5* runs which is a shame because I can 5* the devil went down to georgia DLC but not ttfaf.
@xionico33174 ай бұрын
Do a video about getting amazing at TTFATF. I'd love to see you analyse certain sections and watch how you practiced them.
@JForJackPlays4 ай бұрын
This is actually something i've kinda considered!! There's an achievement in GH Smash Hits for getting 4* on TTFAF expert so i'll most likely try cover that in a video on the game and go from there
@xionico33174 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays Haha nice! Definitely looking forward to that.
@WonderrTaco6 ай бұрын
i see the grind, i immensely respect the grind
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
I see your comment, I appreciate your comment!
@dowfish125 ай бұрын
Question, how are you using guitar hero III on pc?
@doubleeeeeee4 ай бұрын
I remember trying to get the 1 million points in coop with my friend on Free Bird and he would just get absolutely pissed at me because I'd mess up some small part randomly. Almost was a friendship ender lol.
@AdogXIII36 ай бұрын
Could you 5star raining blood for me on expert 😅😅 the only song I haven't for that achievement lmao 😅
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Haha it's a tough one. How close have you managed to get?
@AdogXIII36 ай бұрын
It's been 3-5yrs since trying but I think I only got like 186000 on a good run, but that beginning and last 1/4 I just can't keep a combo for good points.. and I can't consistently get past the beginning solo lmao
@JAKDGamezPlay17916 ай бұрын
I would recommend Hyperspeed to help you with songs
@theakbars986 ай бұрын
RAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
@FacialVomitTurtleFights6 ай бұрын
BWAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
@marthastewwart6 ай бұрын
Why wasnt the achievement there where you have to get a 100% on the intro part of through the fire and the flames on expert? I cant be the only one who remembers this!?
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
That isn't an achievement! It's a good idea for one though..
@khaotix643 ай бұрын
Fun fact: less people on trueachievements have the hard duo achievement making it the rarest one in the game. Guess people figured to go straight for expert lol
@Gooolem4 ай бұрын
I still don't know how to hit the note whitout the you know that little thing xd
@thetroopergames30916 ай бұрын
yeah, i want this on 1000 gamerscore. only difference is i have none of the dlc so im stuck to ttfaf for 750k
@xcollateralx34836 ай бұрын
I was going for it but I can’t find anyone with the creator of the game achievement do I can’t get the 100% but still was a fun grind
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Is that all you need? I can help you get it
@xcollateralx34836 ай бұрын
That and the 500 online game but I’m half way done
@TheBassicBassist6 ай бұрын
500 wins! Belly of a Shark
@Zenxcity.6 ай бұрын
MW2 next so excited
@ElOsoMarino5 ай бұрын
What a pain, but the game it's great
@oliversudden91624 ай бұрын
there is a campaign leaderboard for xbox live that tracks your 100milliomn
@Canada4076 ай бұрын
This uploaded while I was playing GH3 myself 😂
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Legend
@henrychanner40326 ай бұрын
Gears of war 1-3 achievement hunting next?
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Definitely planning on doing some sort of GOW video.. problem is the 'seriously' achievements.. will never 100% those games. Could just do the insane campaign + other bits though I guess
@EmilForsberg_GRYBO6 ай бұрын
So, you'll be doing World Tour next right?
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Yes, got a couple of other GH videos that I think will be done first but yes will do some WT
@EmilForsberg_GRYBO6 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays well well, im up for any guitar hero really, these videos kinda makes me wanna do some achievement hunting myself... but they also make me reslise that i would never have the time and effort for it lol
@Shen72726 ай бұрын
Any rockband games perhaps?
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Definitely something I'm considering... but I would need to play all the different instruments and ALL the achievements might be basically impossible haha. Will look into it and see what I can do though definitely
@Shen72726 ай бұрын
@@JForJackPlays oh yeah didn't think about that.
@HeyShotgun6 ай бұрын
Wow haven’t seen anyone play this in years
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
Won't let this classic be forgotten!
@allendevoe12076 ай бұрын
Guitar Hero 2 now??!?!
@JForJackPlays6 ай бұрын
I started recording that a few months ago. Need to rope Ollie back in for coop and then finish up some expert bits. Will see if I can pass Jordan 🤞 Planning on gh2 and gh Aerosmith as the next music games though!
@KaiisKlips6 ай бұрын
I have a challenge, get all achievements in Ninja Gaiden Master collection. Just the first game, don't need to do the second
@Flamethefirehog6 ай бұрын
What is your gamertag? I would love to compare achievements! 😎
@metalapplesus3 ай бұрын
People are saying shoutouts to Ollie, I say shoutouts to Cold4186. Whoever that was, their appearance was probably a rarer chance than the rest of the video combined.
@ianpopp876 ай бұрын
I have a feeling this will be painful
@willruns6 ай бұрын
youve got good strumming fingers lad, put them to work
@orionl74065 ай бұрын
Only the lead profile getting the co-op achievements is evil. Reminds of when me my brother played this Shrek game on Xbox and there weren't many achievements but they were all worth like 100 gamer score and only the lead profile got the gamerscore. So stupid.