I fully agree with you

Nice and I agree to

Sounds like you're analyzing this like Death Battle. Cool Sonic and Lilac are both fast and strong, but when Sonic has Super Form, and Lilac doesn't, he gets the upper hand.

I do agree with what you said but if sonic didn't had the emeralds he would had lost the battle.

@@Angel-Hedgehog Ya I do agree with you but I also don't. Now we don't know if this Sonic is from the Archie Comics where his more Faster, Stronger, and Powerful then in the Video Gamea we play. So if the Sonic that Jack used in the video was from the comic then even without the Chaos Emeralds Power Sonic would still win.

Bro it's just an animation

@@sebastianserafinski9497 an animation that is based on characters fighting each other of course people are gonna drop stuff like this

You said it xDDDD

@@JH-Production could you do the same thing but with katara in it like this one

Yea. Chat to her deadass ghost.

I mean, he fought and defeated at LEAST two Dragons in Black Knight so he has experience.

He killed like 2 much bigger dragons in sonic and the black knight.

SATAM Sonic, the weakest and slowest Sonic in existence would murder her. Let alone any other incarnations of himself.

Yup :b

Lilac ain't coming back for FP2 that's for sure

_"I told you, I'm not a RAT!...I'm a HEDGEHOG!"_

Thanks Dude! I appreciate it! X3

@@JH-Production can I have the sheet please

yeah

No dip Sherlock you killed her and you got some nerves to pull her hair like that to...!!!!

Lilac is a copy of sonic

@@martaantunes7629 and sonic is a copy of Mario just cause jts a copy doesn't mean it can't be good

@@name2123 Sonic didn't copy mario

@@sonicwithglasses131 ok did i ask

@@name2123 idc if you asked or not, get the information right

Thanks Zack ^^

@@JH-Production ^^

Thanks ^^

I'm very sure the only reason she did that was that he wanted to include Super Sonic in the fight. It's the same reason She somehow overcame Super Saiyan Goku in a past animation from this same animator. If he cared abt power scaling, this fight would have been *UP, OVER, AND **_GOOOOONE_* in one second flat.

@@elijahdixon7681 yeah, you’re right.

@@elijahdixon7681 Lilac would get murdered by Clone Commandos from Star Wars, let alone Goku, Vegeta, Sonic and Shadow.

@@elijahdixon7681lso, that fight was retarded in its own right too, and a rather clear cut case for JH’s fetish for Lilac. All “non research” fights should really just be renamed to “spite against other fandoms of the dude who would obviously win” fights. Because all they serve is to make the character who would obviously lose win and to intentionally try and piss off the fans of the character who obviously would take that matchup without any issues. Goku should’ve obliterated lilac, but of course jack’s simp like nature for his waifu didn’t allow it. That’s the only reason she won that fight, that and he probably didn’t want to receive backlash from two of The biggest scaling fandoms simultaneously, especially with Sonic fans over him losing to his budget counterpart.

Flash, Dash, Rainbow Dash: are We a joke to u (I not being rude)

Don't mess with the Blue blur

@@magicalgirlfan1 in his world- he really is fastest

@@magicalgirlfan1 Im sorry, but Rainbow Dash? Really? Like Flash I understand but fucking Rainbow Dash?

@@berdnst yah that got me to even road runner is faster than that

Thanks man ^^

@@JH-Production ye

Sonic wouldn’t need super. Sonic in base with 1% of power one shots her.

@@itsyaboyjoyride Well Sonic is at least multi-Galaxy or Universal at base since he survived being crushed by the Time Eater’s hand and Lilac is at least planetary (that’s being generous at best), so yeah.🤔 1% atta do it.💁

@@porobotboyxxx but didnt sonic with on the verge of death beat Erazor Djinn? Sounds like base sonic is multiversal to me :^

@@itsyaboyjoyride Erazor Djinn became Multiversal when he became that disgusting turd during the battle with Dark Spine Sonic.

@@porobotboyxxx that isnt what multiversal is, low multiversal is destroying between 2 or 1000 universes. Erazor absorbed 500. So erazor is low multiversal. Base Sonic one the verge of death beat him. So Base Sonic if healthy should be multiversal not low multi. Sonic with 1% of power easily one shots anyways even if he was multi galaxy *so i guess in the end tho, none of it mattered* If you watch luke gawne. You will get why i bolded that.

Sonic doesn't fool Eggman, he powers through with his speed. While he is smart, I'm honestly not sure who is smarter between them.

@Professor Zoom If you want the scans, i'll send you them via Discord.

Yeah,he honestly didn't need super. I can give you many more feats that proves Sonic would absolutely rape Lilac In base.

She wouldn’t get past Silver Sonic or even the most basic of badniks besides egg pawns.

Also, no, Lilac isn’t even capable of reaching, let alone *breaking* the sound barrier. Her best speed feats are still Subsonic.

bro it woud be interesting but no thats never gonna happen

There speed is not equal, sonic much faster

Both are not even close to equal. Sonic is infinitely faster, stronger, and more experienced. Lilac at her best MIGHT be Hypersonic, she isn’t touching any version of Sonic who even in his weakest incarnations can react to lightning to a degree.

Yup :b

*gets dragon radar*

You mean a lot more than a lot more than enough to murder Lilac.

@@Brendan-kx8iy eh not really. Even in Base, Sonic would still win. Super was *OVERKILL*

@@llednyl660 That’s…….What I said lmao. Game/X/IDW/Post Genesis wave Archie Sonic (who are more or less interchangeable in terms of speed and power) are way beyond being way beyond overkill for freedom planet. Even OVA Sonic would one shot her, she would be incapable of beating any incarnations of Sonic actually, even SATAM Sonic as all of them blitz her. SATAM Sonic is casually a mach 5 character, Lilac is incapable of going at Mach 1 or even 600 MPH. Her only chance of victory against SATAM, AOSTH or Movie Sonic is in the impossible scenarios where any one of those particular 3 just stand there completely motionless and do nothing to defend against or avoid Lilac’s attacks, while she gets to pull off every attack she possibly can, maybe then she could win. Against the most fodder versions of sonic, lmao. And that’s only due to the fact their attack potencies are in the building level ranges, aka more or less in the same league, not like it matters cause Lilac couldn’t even hit those fodder incarnations anyways, so her capacity to hurt them is 99.9999999% meaningless. Even OVA Sonic would be invincible to her as he’s city level, meanwhile Lilac at maximum wank isn’t even City Block Level. People like Shadow, Silver, or Blaze are types she stands no chance against, period, mainly due to them being modern era exclusive characters and thus there’s no versions of them she could even so much as harm, they’re literally above her character conceptually in all aspects (what I mean by that is basically no matter which versions of the characters you choose, you can composite one and limit the other to one iteration, aka the most unfair disadvantage you can give any character in a vs debate, and the other will still get clapped 1000000000000/100 times, regardless of circumstances). The weakest version of shadow you can pull out for example, is X Shadow and he’s more or less on par with his Adventure Era self. Even Jedi and Sith from Star Wars or Part I Naruto Characters would murder Lilac. Let alone anything from the Sonic franchise, especially in the OVA, Game, IDW, X, Or Post Genesis Archie Continuities. *don’t even get me started on the overpowered deity that is Pre Super Genesis Wave Archie Sonic, who in terms of power, is someone we’d require Xeno Goku type shit for to deal with in any capacity*

@@Brendan-kx8iy Christ the fact you typed this so fast is insane😳

@@llednyl660 I do type fast lol. And let’s be real, even General Grievous from Star Wars would solo Avalice.

There aren’t many you can put her up against.

@@Brendan-kx8iy Shantae but that’s about it.

Star Fox is weak a f. Even in comparison to other sci-fi and sci-can (science fantasy).

Liliac is not amy (or other female sonic character) XD

@@KyonSOSBrigad3 r/wooosh

THAT WILL NEVER HAPPENEN NO MATTER HOW MANY FIGHTS SONIC WILL ALWAYS WIN

@@anasilvester2260 shut up

Kinda makes sense because lilac is like a copy of sonic, she’s fast, there’s high speed sections, there’s springs, etc.

@@cartoonpeashooter4703 i see she did started her life as an OC afterall

You honestly think Lilac stands a chance whatsoever?