Modulation Pedals Explained (Chorus, Phaser, Vibrato, Flanger, Tremolo, Rotary)

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This week on the JHS Show, we break down a complicated subject: modulation. By the end of this episode, you're going to understand how modulation works, why this effect goes by roughly a hundred different names and-- most importantly --you'll be better equipped to rock out with your own modulation pedal. You're welcome.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:38 Understanding Modulation
1:03 Tremolo
2:32 Rotary
4:35 Univibe
7:16 Phaser
10:33 Flanger
12:22 Chorus
14:28 Vibrato
16:27 Ring Modulation
19:08 Just Try Stuff!
21:25 Record Time
22:17 Thanks for Watching!
Gear in this Episode:
Boss TR-2 Tremolo
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Strymon Lex Rotary
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JHS Unicorn V2
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MXR Phase 90
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MXR M290 Phase 95 Mini Phaser
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Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress XO Analog Flanger
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Boss CE-2 Chorus
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Boss CE-2W Waza Craft Chorus
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JHS 3 Series Chorus
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Boss VB-2 Vibrato
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Boss VB-2W Waza Craft Vibrato
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TC Electronics Shaker Vibrato
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Electro-Harmonix Ring Thing Sideband Modulator
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Line 6 MM4 Modulation Modeler
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Boss MD-200 Modulation Multi-Effect
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Seuf Guitars Blackguard Tele
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JHS "Loud Is More Good Amp"
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Record Time:
Alison's Halo - Eyedazzler
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Josh’s record player is by U-Turn Audio:
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@LeStraTele 3 жыл бұрын

A ring modulator is like having a second guitarist that plays along with you, and ALWAYS hits the wrong notes. Fun.

@alanredversangel 3 жыл бұрын

UNLESS You tune it to your root note and then play major pentatonic notes. Then it's fun.

@johnkruton9708 2 жыл бұрын

Since I already play the wrong notes will it then play the correct notes and I’ll be awesome? (Sarcasm)

@UnboundOdysseus Жыл бұрын

So it’s like adding me to your band? Awesome!!

@kevinr.3542 Жыл бұрын

So its like the Allman Brothers if Dicky Betts was a drunken robot mimicking every note Duane played just to be a DICk

@rmaxtpmx 6 ай бұрын

And you're both picking behind the bridge.

@joebiondo6898 3 жыл бұрын

I love how Leo Fender confused generations of guitarists by misnaming the vibrato on his guitars, and tremolo on his amps.

@onerandombruh Жыл бұрын

Because he was a true gangsta.

@kwyatt261 Жыл бұрын

It's sexier that way in the lore

@matthewlapczynski5012 Жыл бұрын

Yah, he was a knuckled head in that one regard. He wasn't a musician, he was an electrician.

@LBibeauB24 Жыл бұрын

Yo it still gets me.

@oscargarcia6639 Жыл бұрын

@xdoctorblindx 3 жыл бұрын

Legend has it that Elvis never died and he's still sitting at Guitar Center wondering about which modulation pedal to buy to this day.

@milijoe5725 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@TheRealcdawg22 3 жыл бұрын

@@elliotvernon7971 Do they make a peanut butter and hot sauce one? Or whatever weird sandwich was his favorite.

@SuperRbert 3 жыл бұрын

What? Is he dead?

@tylerevans1700 3 жыл бұрын

Lolol, this comment is so random/perfect af.. ☮️ 💕

@fredstevens799 3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperRbert he's been pretty quiet for a while... we need to talk.

@P_Ezi 3 жыл бұрын

Next T shirt: Flangers will do chorus, and chorus has vibrato in it, and univibe is actually a phaser, but a phaser is not a univibe.

@Acroanidd 3 жыл бұрын

Could probably chop it down to just the univibe being a phaser but phaser not being a univibe and just showing pictures of pedals and the equals and not equals sign. i would totally bouy the hell out of it.

@jimiemil 3 жыл бұрын

And trhe Univibe is not a Leslie :D

@davemabee5798 3 жыл бұрын

And Leslie just wants to go about her business.

@RobertTheBruce88 3 жыл бұрын

That's some advance mathematics

@jeanenviedapprendre 3 жыл бұрын

Could be a series of shirts, but I like the whole thing together!

@kylemilbrandt2472 3 жыл бұрын

"Goblin-like tones" is probably the best description of ring modulator I've ever heard.

@whatwedointheshadows3349 3 жыл бұрын

Dalek like.

@teresaravenshaw5477 2 жыл бұрын

What We Do In The Shadows - The Dalek voices literally are created using a Mooger Fooger ring mod.

@iknowyouarh 3 жыл бұрын

Flanger = very short mod delay with feedback Chorus = short mod delay no feedback Vibrato = short mod delay no feedback & no dry

@gourmetprospectin9033 2 жыл бұрын

My man. I pulled this set up on my Boss DD-20.

@-jank-willson Жыл бұрын

is there a way to get a flanger without the 'in-and-out' dopplar effect? Like a stationary fighter jet, rather than a fighter jet flying over you? Please PLEASE help me I need to know!! I like the sound of a flanger, but not the 'dopplar' like effect. Maybe a flanger with an expression pedal, and just set the expression pedal to one place, and keep it in place with duct tape?

@tezeta3725 Жыл бұрын

Chorus usually has a slightly longer delay time as well. More specifically flanger sits in the haas effect zone aka anything under 20ms, while chorus is generally between 20-50ms. Thats actually what causes the majority of their difference in sound, because the extremely short delay time on a flanger causes phase differences between the two signals resulting in comb filtering. Since chorus has a longer delay time you dont get the comb filter effect and instead just here the flucuation in pitch from the delay time being modulated.

@tezeta3725 Жыл бұрын

@@-jank-willsonit sounds like what you're looking for is a delay pedal that can do extremely short delay times. As detailed in my above comment a delay thats under 20ms will cause an effect called comb filtering. Essentially a flanger pedal is doing the same thing but the delay time is being modulated creating the doppler like whooshing effect as the comb filter is shifted up and down the frequency range. So if you can find a delay pedal that can do those short delays or a flanger pedal that lets you turn off the modulation either would work. I know most digital delays would work and the earthquaker pyramids flanger has some settings that would work as well.

@-jank-willson Жыл бұрын

@@tezeta3725 ain't no delay pedal that's gonna do 20ms or less LOL, unless you get one custom made. (I expect my royalty check in the mail, Boss and DOD...) I also only do analogue pedals, so maybe the pyramids flanger would be good if it is not insanely expensive, and can genuinely turn off the modulation... Or maybe a flanger with an expression pedal, set at a single point would work.

@brian_mccomedy 3 жыл бұрын

Further explanation for Ring Modulator pedals: Carrier frequency is what you set on the pedal (i.e. tune it to the note A - 440hz) Modulator frequency is whatever note the guitar is playing (i.e. play the dominant 5th, like in a power chord, which would be E at 659.25hz) The pedal takes those two, and mixes in the sum and difference of those frequencies. So it will generate the sum frequency: A-440hz + E-659.25hz = C# at 1099hz (C# is a Major 3rd in the Key of A), And it will generate the difference between the two frequencies: A-440hz - E-659.25hz = A at 219hz (The note A but a lower octave down). As you can see the frequencies it generates aren't perfectly in tune, and depending what note you play it can sound more or less dissonant. Other names for it could be: - microtonal chord generator pedal. - Unison Bend pedal - Mathematicians noise rock pedal Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

@P_Ezi 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome analysis

@brian_mccomedy 3 жыл бұрын

@@P_Ezi Thanks!

@markhammer643 3 жыл бұрын

Lower modulating frequencies (e.g., 100hz) result in a more "pitched" ring modulator sound, since the sum and difference sideband products are closer to the original pitch, while higher modulation rates yield sideband products so divergent from the original pitch that they can seem incoherent; especially if either the sum OR difference result is outside the audible range. For example, if the modulating frequency was 1000hz, for many notes, one would not be able to hear the difference frequency (too low) OR the sum (too high). Just about ANY modulation pedal - tremolo, phaser, chorus, flanger, etc. - can be transformed into something that *sounds* like a ring modulator, simply by increasing the speed of the LFO. The vast majority of LFOs will be in the sub-audio range (

@1000mg. 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the explanation, I'm dazed and confused.

@markhammer643 3 жыл бұрын

@@1000mg. Well when the dust settles, if you have any questions, feel free to ask away.

@Agent36 3 жыл бұрын

"Somethings have to be experienced." Underrated statement in life.

@joshuaandtheruins8580 3 жыл бұрын

Also, the "ring" in the name "ring mod" comes from the pattern of four diodes at the center of the schematic, that looks like a little square ring. A passive ring mod is an incredibly easy circuit to make, and if you make the carrier an input jack rather than an oscillator, you can combine two guitar signals, white noise, and anything else you want. As Josh noted, it's the effect for you if you are weird!

@TheDrunkenScoundrel 3 жыл бұрын

I actually booked Alison’s Halo at the bar I worked at in Tempe, AZ. SUPER nice people.

@mattstanley8944 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve said it before ... I’ll say it again . I love this channel and Josh and all at JHS truly love this industry , the history , The nerdy stuff and the fans ! Thank you Thank you Thank you

@shkibby1 3 жыл бұрын

Just checked reverb, Josh's Klon is the cheapest posted pedal.

@Jediroller 3 жыл бұрын

Reverb should add like a sound effect of someone getting shafted everytime they add something to cart.

@CathodeRayNipplez 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jediroller Bwahahahah. GOLD!

@fredstevens799 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jediroller what does that actually sound like? wait...

@DanielViruz 3 жыл бұрын

I know this show is more about the fascination about effects and the sound you can get instead of the background science but I think it would be quite interesting to see a flat note portrayed in a graphic of every pedal effect and see the differences of each effect, that would be an amazing way to see how they work or modulate

@bernardfoshage9901 3 жыл бұрын

Chorus is a staple on my board. It's ON all the time at a slow speed and moderate depth. It really adds to the saturation of high gain.

@randa4382 Жыл бұрын

I use a super subtle chorus for that same thing... even helps for the super nasty almost dime squeal harmonics.. that i dont pull off correctly cuz i dont use a floyd... but yeah... just that edge of on, but always on.

@natashanyxx9486 3 жыл бұрын

I like the Moog stand-alone Ring Modulator, the Mooger Fooger.

@Healcraft 3 жыл бұрын

googled it and its real, what a good name

@SonicRave1 3 жыл бұрын

It’s the best ring mod pedal!

@waterpig84 3 жыл бұрын

Yup that's why earthquaker doesnt want to release a ring mod, he said he surpass it

@blackf9068 3 жыл бұрын

I got my Behringer Ultra Tremolo/Pan UT300 the last month, the reazon why I choice this pedal, aside the cheap price, was the Pan function. Contect it to 2 amplifiers is a complete pleasure.

@amraines64 3 жыл бұрын

been using a boss bf2 flanger as a chorus pedal for years. imho it hits the nail perfectly on the head

@mischiefmikeyo 3 жыл бұрын

Same if you turn the manual and res down its basically a chorus

@eata55 3 жыл бұрын

Phaser: what your heart rate should be Univibe: what your heart rate really is

@denismguitar1552 3 жыл бұрын

Until you get that pesky ring mod atrial fib!

@RichardPhillipsDJ 3 жыл бұрын

After far too long, I realised what I love is Rotary, probably because of all the Jimmy Smith and Booker T. I've listened to over the years. I've been using a Fender Pinwheel and enjoying it massively, especially when going into stereo speakers/amps.

@dahmc59 3 жыл бұрын

Josh mentions more than once in other videos how excellent fender pedals are...i thought he was getting a little choked up about it he likes them so much.

@antonyedwardson9900 3 жыл бұрын

My MD-200 arrived 3 days ago and today it features on the JHS show, I couldn’t be prouder!

@NewFalconerRecords 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a Nu>X (call it Nux if you will) Leslie Speaker cab sim pedal called a Roctary (it's got an octave feature as well). Quite inexpensive. Not bad at all. For those on a budget wanting to dip their toe into the Leslie rotating speaker world, it's a pretty good option. I've used it on both keyboards and guitars on recordings and it's more than a bit of fun, got some great results.

@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT Жыл бұрын

Their multimod is even better. Cab sims are kinda redundant now.

@TheBeriking 3 жыл бұрын

In just a few months I went from “modulation? Meh… chorus makes me seasick” to “I’ll try a series 3 chorus and see if I like it…wow it’s actually pretty cool” to “I can’t live without flanger” (got a ThorpyFX Camouflange that is just flat-out tone sorcery), to “I also love phaser and what about harmonic tremolo and oh my god I MUST have a univibe (Hendrix!!!!)…” Enter the MD500. It’s now practically always on, switching between different modes *in parallel* usually straight into a Charlie Brown for pure sonic bliss. Probably going to get a unicorn next, as I’m effectively hooked on the vibe. Hi.I’m Ran. And I am a pedalholic.

@CorbCorbin 3 жыл бұрын

*Hi Ran. Hello, my name is Corb, and I’m a pedalholic. 😀 If you’re really into the Uni-Vibe, I suggest trying to find one of the higher end ones to compare the differences with digital and even pedals like Josh’s Unicorn. I’m talking builders like Sabbadius, Kingtone and a few others that are in the $300-$500 range. The pre-amps in the big boy pedals makes a big difference, whether for better or worse, but modern builds have ability to take it out and/or be true bypass instead of buffered bypass, or the preamp always on. Fret Junkies is a good channel to see someone who is obsessed with Uni-Vibes, along with guitar stuff in general, and does videos on many of the top builders. He talks about differences, and why he likes one more or less accordingly. Good luck. I have owned at least 12 different Uni-Vibes, and still own 3 that I keep for different reasons. My current favorite is the Kingtone 1968.

@TheBeriking 3 жыл бұрын

@@CorbCorbin Hey Corb, we love you! Thanks for the great suggestions, I will definitely check out fret junkies and research these names. Another one that intrigues is the Pedal Pawn Gypsy vibe. The unicorn was (is) especially enticing because of the form factor, tap tempo, killer aesthetic (like all JHS pedals) and the fact it’s using an actual bulb driven circuit (as opposed to a digital recreation of the effect) which seems really cool for a pedal this size. But I can definitely see the allure in a more vintage-correct unit, and as I dive deeper into the addiction I guess that is probably the inevitable path I will follow...

@thedissonaut6707 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the ring thing on a whim years ago. It can do the octave thing, univibe thing, chorus, and tremolo. Obviously it’s limited on how it makes those sounds. But I thought they are all pretty solid for it just being one pedal. The Manual online tells how to set the pedal for all those effects.

@LloydWoodall 3 жыл бұрын

"Explaining what this does is really festive..." I have a new go-to word for describing things. Thanks, Josh!

@SilasRNold 3 жыл бұрын

Nick, I don't know how you recorded Wurds Iz Hard without laughing hysterically every take, but I appreciate you for it.

@davidsommerville2213 3 жыл бұрын

Josh, I just knew that I’d come out the other side of this video understanding the difference between chorus and flanger. I know a bit, but not too much. Your use of the chalkboard totally crystallized my understanding of phasing, so you closed the door on this for me, and thank you. Confoundingly, however, I’ve looked up and never really gotten the distinction between chorus and flange. I get chorus. Flange sounds similar. There’s something about feedback being fed back into the signal. Why, Josh, why?!?! Please do a short video with a chalkboard and help me understand what happens. You are my only hope.

@flatbaroque4049 3 жыл бұрын

You're the one channel that I don't skip the ads on. It's my way of supporting you and it's because I appreciate what you do. Thank you Josh. Your a big help to the whole music community. Respect.

@EPortillo5000 5 ай бұрын

I remmember when I walk in the music store and saw the boss super chorus and the chorus ensemble side by side and had a price difference of just $10 and asked to an employee what was the difference and he responded "try them" he gave me a washburn N1 don't remmember which amp was conected to and started playing the intro of Hysteria first with the super chorus and when switched to the chorus ensemble I got that tone that made other constumers come to hear me play, was spot on for that song. So this long story is to tell you that you have to try the pedals to find the right one for what you want to play or the tone you are looking for.

@hugomartinho2555 3 жыл бұрын

You got a new shirt right there in the intro: "I'm a semi-pro-modulation-master!"

@WayneMemphisMojo 3 жыл бұрын

I discovered something about modulation today. It seduces me to such a mello state of mind that I lose consciousness. I had to go back & watch this video 4 times.

@brianrollins7275 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the informative video, I appreciate it. You’re terrible for my GAS problem but I can’t stop watching your videos. I’m learning a lot from it so thanks again for doing what you do. I was already a big fan of JHS Pedals but that history of JHS Pedals video made me appreciate you and your team on a whole other level. Much respect to your whole team and especially you for putting in all those hours and hard work to create so many great pedals. Take care

@petew.1418 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks Josh and JHS crew! I had an Electric Mistress years ago, when the battery ran low, it had thus weird, (but pretty cool), metallic reverby thing happening.

@xdoctorblindx 3 жыл бұрын

The Wampler Terraform is a pretty exceptional multi-modulation pedal with presets and a small footprint.

@neilrobinson7615 3 жыл бұрын

The free plugin version is one of my all time favourite plugins. Incredibly good.

@License2Bust Жыл бұрын

@@neilrobinson7615 What would that be champ? Not seeing it on their site.

@daveoh13 3 жыл бұрын

i have several stand-alone modulation pedals, but the boss md-500 is incredible...

@Mr.5hady 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I have wondered that just this few last days! You released this video just in the right time for me, thank you very much Mr. Pedal-Guy🥳

@BCtheCreator 2 жыл бұрын

Playing guitar for several years now, and I finally have a good grasp on modulations purpose and the types! Thanks man!

@ivankolybabyuk1814 3 жыл бұрын

All of them! I got myself walrus audio Julia and Polychrome. They implement each other perfectly!

@denismguitar1552 3 жыл бұрын

Complement?

@Mark761966 3 жыл бұрын

Ring modulator = Every robot/cyborg voice in 60s British TV sc-ifi shows

@m.malina6797 3 жыл бұрын

This video is extremely helpful, JHS. It's like a crash course in Mod in under 30 minutes. Well done... Tremolo and Reverb are all I want. I'm a man of simple taste.

@jitterjive4711 2 жыл бұрын

As always, when watching one of your videos, I learned a lot and found it very interesting. Thanks for helping me on my way to getting a better understanding of effects pedals.

@ImNotOld_ImVintage 3 жыл бұрын

"Semi-Pro Modulation Master" belongs on a tee shirt!

@TheFlutecart 3 жыл бұрын

I grew up in the 80's. Burned out on Chorus effects. Phasers and Flangers I still use often. I use to turn my DOD 747 Flanger to a very subtle effect setting and just leave it on all the time. It fattened up an acoustic guitar like a magic trick.

@macsarcule 2 жыл бұрын

I recently re-acquired my old DOD Flanger FX-75B from ‘85, and the nostalgia was delightful. Good to know there are others with some DOD Flanger love 🙂

@harls7317 Жыл бұрын

Stop the cap bro bro

@OneHandedGuitar 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome explanation! Thanks for the deep dive.. I’m currently starting to approach the idea of building a board and this helped to clarify the area of modulation. 👍🏻

@ipuya Жыл бұрын

The entertainment value, and quality of these videos is just crazy good! So informative i wanna like bookmark all of them!

@MrAKbass 3 жыл бұрын

Great explanation of the phaser effect, never knew this was behind it.

@dyonight 3 жыл бұрын

That was so good! And it's great to hear at least one exemple of a JHS effect having a spot light so we don't forget how outstanding your stuff actually is!

@Nonono537 Жыл бұрын

I’m commenting again! I’m so obsessed with your record time choice here. It’s literally what I’ve be listening to for 4 months straight. I’m jealous that you have the record. It’s becoming hard to find or 8 million dollars. Anyway, right on Josh!!!

@batmanbill1 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for showing the Line 6 MM4. I became aware of it when I was looking for Prince's pedal board. Works very well with Boss pedals and will last forever!

@jrockkai 3 жыл бұрын

I needed a modulation pedal on my board and learned about the Zoom Multistomp MS-70CDR and havent looked back!

@brysimm404 3 жыл бұрын

Wow Josh, great Record Time recommend :D I’m a long time (like 30 years) Shoegaze fan, but hadn’t heard “Allison’s Halo”. Like a blend of Slowdive & Cocteau Twins with the singer from Cranes (fortunately not as high pitched). Really good episode overall too - Thanks!

@johndrowe5281 9 ай бұрын

As usual, thank you for the smiles and the education. As far as pedals go, you are one of the most erudite gentlemen on the Internet. I thoroughly enjoy hearing you break down the differences in pedal designs and uses. Keep the joy afloat… Enjoy this 2023 autumn 🍂🍁🍂. 🎸👨🏼‍⚕️🎸. 🫶✌️♾️.

@dastuun 3 жыл бұрын

There was no question. I bought a Unicorn. My first JHS pedal. Love it!

@Shanecurle 3 жыл бұрын

I play professionally and stopped using pedals for my own reasons. Yet, here I am. I could listen to Josh read a shampoo bottle. I still love pedals even if I don’t use em’ much these days. I grew up on huge pedal boards. Love the passion. The information. The truth is out there.

@jhspedals 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏🏼

@gkol69 3 жыл бұрын

You can buy a Line6 M5 pedal that has the big MM4 modulation pedal "crammed" inside along the other big pedals (Delay, Distortion, Filter modelers) for 120 euros/dollars. It can do one effect at a time but you don't turn on Flanger, Chorus and Phaser together. I bought it for modulation effects. I played with all the modulation types and I found out that the MXR Flanger model "feels" better to what I play distorted and Analog Chorus or Dimension C model for clean. It even has an A/DA Flanger model that the big MM4 doesn't. With a pedal like this you can use what suites the part you're playing plus you have 10 presets to save your favourites.

@Graceharris7467 2 жыл бұрын

The M5 is super slept on. It's got great sounds in it. I bought it for the same reasons, and I've been impressed with amount of useable effects in this pedal.

@shaynejoseph1527 2 жыл бұрын

"It can do one effect at a time but you don't turn on Flanger, Chorus and Phaser together." .....oh.

@Chucky-hf6oe 16 күн бұрын

Favorites in each category: Flanger: MuTron Pedal Flanger This was a classic analog bucket brigade flange that, at maximum depth, separated into 12 delayed tones before catching up to itself. The pedal button switched sweep control to your foot. Chorus: Once upon a time, a good many of these effects could be achieved with a Revox 2 track R2R. Great chorus effects are easily achieved by recording a guitar part twice with one of the guitars out of tune by a 16th tone. But Boss is still Boss. More to come

@after2burner 2 жыл бұрын

I am real lousy on handy jobs that require fine work like soldering etc. But back in the 80ies, while at school, I made a Ring Modulator as an electronics project. Got some good help from an engineer and we got it to work. Don 't rememeber where I left it...

@markhammer643 3 жыл бұрын

Fundamentally flanging and chorusing are the same thing. In each case a copy of the signal is delayed in time by a changing amount, and that time-delayed copy is then combined with the real-time version to produce the effect. *HOWEVER* , by changing the amount of time delay even just a little, it changes our focus of attention. In the case of slightly longer delay-time in chorusing, our attention is focussed on the resulting pitch-shift produced, which creates the illusion of two musicians playing the same thing in almost-but-not-perfect unison. In the case of flanging, the shorter delay time shifts our attention away from the pitch-shifting to the notches produced (Doppler effect), as they get moved around. Because of how human perception works, the pitch-shifting would have to be more extreme to be perceptible at very slow speeds. So you'll never find a chorus with a Speed/Rate control that sweeps as slowly as one on a flanger. As well, because our attention is focused on the pitch and not the notches, using feedback in a chorus serves no purpose, so you rarely see them on a chorus pedal. All of that said, there IS a zone - a range of delay times - where chorus and flanger overlap, such that some flangers (like the Deluxe Electric Mistress) can produce chorus-like sounds, and some choruses can be nudged to produce flanger-like swirl, depending on the make and its respective design. Much like the difference between chorus and vibrato, where a slightly different *shape* of sweep is optimal for each, despite operating off the same basic technology, slower flanging likes a different *shape* of sweep than faster bubbly flanging and chorus.

@ikesours6558 3 жыл бұрын

The smear of the comb filter is really where the difference lies. However, with some strict chorus pedals, clipping dirt going into them can really make it sound more flange-y. I'm still debating chorus placement because of that, haha.

@markhammer643 3 жыл бұрын

@@ikesours6558 If a tree falls in the forest, and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound? If a comb filter sweeps and there is little spectral content for it to insert notches into, can we hear comb-filtering? Flangers always sound more dramatic when the signal being processed covers a large portion of the audible spectrum. The benchmark flanger sounds we love usually involved a mixed-down drum kit and maybe even a little white noise. Similarly, choruses can sound a little more "flange-ey" when their input signal is very busy and covers more of the spectrum. Distortion IS adding more harmonic content to the original signal, so no surprise that the filtering aspects of chorus seem to be more present when the input signal is a little clipped. Phasers also create notches, but two or three notches is not really anything one could describe as a "comb". Some phasers will produce up to 6 notches (using 12 stages), but the top 3 notches tend to be wasted on guitars, since there is little spectral content from the guitar "up there". What's rather pointless on guitar, however, can sound delicious on a wider-bandwidth source, like a synth, or organ. A friend once demoed a 24-stage phaser for me, that he had made, using white noise as the signal source, and it sounded VERY flanger-like. So why does a flanger - that produces many notches - sound so good on guitar if I say that more than 3 phaser notches is wasted? Easy. The notches prodced by a flanger are more closely spaced together, moving closer together as it produces more notches on the downward sweep. So we can hear them because they are all within the bandwidth of the guitar signal. Phaser notches remain a fixed distance apart. There are ways one can move them closer together, but it generally involves a more complex circuit. As for chorus placement in a chain, there are certainly *preferred* positions for achieving more familiar "standardized" tones. But ANY position is musically valid if one is simply interested in producing tones of interest.

@1000mg. 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you dude. Now shut up.

@austincox1709 3 жыл бұрын

@@1000mg. someone likes talking 😬

@dw7704 3 жыл бұрын

I used a flanger mostly for a chorus sound Until I got Roland JC amp And used the chorus on that instead

@srtamplification 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I don't consider a Wah pedal a modulated effect. It is just changing the frequency response curve. It is the same as turning the tone control, only it has more range.

@VerryBonne Жыл бұрын

So, in other words, it modulates the frequency response curve?

@srtamplification Жыл бұрын

@@VerryBonne Well I mean you could say that, but typically modulation of analog signals are either AM such as tremolo and FM such as vibrato. You can set the wah pedal to different positions and change the frequency response curve of the signal, but it is a steady-state change. You have to actively change the pedal position to change the FR. Technically the signal itself is not modulated, just the amount of signal at certain frequencies is changed, it's really just rolled off on the edges.

@davidburgess3579 6 ай бұрын

Great to finally see a video when someone plays univibe/panner/rotary slowed down with distortion. Might stand in for an LFO auto wah, as it doesn't have the jet engine of flanger/phaser.

@davidescozzi9885 3 жыл бұрын

That's what I like to hear and watch about pedals. Josh it has a great knowledge, and I find it fascinating to discover the pedal world.

@iuriassalin1667 3 жыл бұрын

TC Shaker price in Brazil: a month minimum wage...

@CorbCorbin 3 жыл бұрын

There are some very insane shipping costs in Argentina and Brazil, which make it really difficult for one man operations to get their pedals to the U.S. or Europe. The Cosmic Phaser and Robotic Flanger made by retroheadfx, are analog pedals they have functionality far beyond even some of the most praised boutique builders. Compare the Robotic Flanger to the Camoflange by Thorpe, and it does everything the Thorpy can and more, for less than half the price, but because of shipping no one really knows about them. They had them priced at about $150 US dollars, but shipping for even one pedal is almost that much. They’ve taken the flanger off the website now. Guess I waited too long to decide whether to buy both pedals and just eat the shipping. The Cosmic Phaser has so many options fir an analog effect it’s amazing, including being a killer optical Trem, and pretty good uni-vibe sounds.

@luke211286 3 жыл бұрын

Just when I think prices of pedals in the Philippines are overinflated, someone else beat us to it

@kodykindhart5644 3 жыл бұрын

😭😭😭 I thought we were inflated

@ahmetyasirsakall77 3 жыл бұрын

and turkey

@silvanorocha3 3 ай бұрын

You can by a BF2 for 70 dollars bucks and now ee have some great builders in Brazil. I recently bought a Ibanez FL9 for 60 dollars, cheaper than USA. So, se have many used options. We have a brand called oliver that was a rembrand of BOSS on the 80s and 90s. It’s the same circuit, with same sound of BF2, It coasts about 40 dollars used. Se have many players that moved to digital.

@stanislavmigra 3 жыл бұрын

Ringmod sounds like something, that can work crazy good with fuzz.

@rabidbadger5260 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate. Modulation is exactly what I'm considering and you cleared up my options. I want them all except ring mod. Thanks

@dam7ri 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the Hyper Phaser, Turbo Flanger, and Chorus Factory from Digitech. Each has 7 modes and really helped me get a better understanding of each effect.

@Henni63 3 жыл бұрын

The Wampler Terraform is a great multi-pedal, too.

@NutsTesticles 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted one so bad but they're so expensive (for my budget) so I got the Joyo Vision and it totally rules

@randa4382 Жыл бұрын

@@NutsTesticles the budget pedal chap does a lot of comparisons with joyo and i (almost) always prefer them over the more expensive counterparts.

@abouc 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see you do a deep dive on some Source Audio effects like the Ultrawave, Ventris, Kingmaker/Aftershock, and Nemesis. Many of these are excellent options for consolidating your pedalboard due to their ability to store multiple presets.

@dahmc59 3 жыл бұрын

wow, this sounds like an incredible episode coming!

@mikeroberts817 3 жыл бұрын

Really good recommendation from record time. I'd never heard Alison's Halo before but really enjoyed them. Add that to the Mineral recommendation from a week or two ago and you are absolutely killing it on suggestions that push my buttons lately.

@tysongalloway5700 3 ай бұрын

I watched this video when I first started getting into pedals. Now I’m about to give a seminar on them, and these explanations really helped. Thanks man.

@gustavoeduardomoralesorteg3022 3 жыл бұрын

So, basically the world wouldn’t have Cocteau Twins in it if Chorus was never invented?

@michaelbeaudo6761 3 жыл бұрын

I was always under the impression that the Flanger was specifically invented so Omar Rodriguez Lopez could finish writing the intro to Roulette Dares.... jokes aside though I recently got a EHX Eddy and it is a beautiful analog chorus/vibrato with tons of options. the vibrato has pretty much become an always on pedal for me! worth checking out if youre in the market for one

@CorbCorbin 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had an itch to just buy one because it’s not too expensive, and has some cool features. I’m just not sure if I want a straight up Chorus, a Pitch Vibrato or a nice Flanger that can do a basic Chorus sound.

@michaelbeaudo6761 3 жыл бұрын

@@CorbCorbin its switchable between chorus and pitch vibrato with the basic rate and depth functions (it goes from barely on to completely unusable so you can make it sound any way you like really) and its also got an envelope/ lfo function to change the type of waveform. it also has a nice tone and volume that can almost drive your signal like a boost

@nintendoor1 3 жыл бұрын

Roulette Dares is actually a MoogerFooger Ring Mod! I’ve always wanted one, but they’re crazy expensive now

@michaelbeaudo6761 3 жыл бұрын

@@nintendoor1 damn I had no idea thats awesome though I remember seeing those a long time ago online but i havent in years

@davemabee5798 3 жыл бұрын

I find the Eddy a little too noisy for my liking.

@johngraves2185 Жыл бұрын

Great walk through! Really enjoyed this one and agree with you about the Line 6 pedals, too many people want to hate them, but I still have my DL4.

@CovertChaosX 3 жыл бұрын

So good man ... thank you for all these videos. Just always great information

@kristenvespera4835 3 жыл бұрын

Modulation pedals are fine by themselves, but modulation pedals with an expression pedal to control the rate is really the best.

@k-leb4671 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like it's pretty much de rigueur to have a foot pedal with the effects. You can do way more interesting stuff with it, to the point it feels like the effects pedals on their own are incomplete.

@joshuamessenger 3 жыл бұрын

Will JHS ever make a Phaser pedal? Why hasn't it ever happened?

@KYCDK 3 жыл бұрын

they have though, univibes are phasers, but yeah your right they should make a proper phaser

@joshuamessenger 3 жыл бұрын

@@KYCDK "univibe is actually a phaser, but a phaser is not a univibe. it's maddening" lol. I don't think JHS has made a Flanger yet either. Fingers crossed!

@michael_caz_nyc 3 жыл бұрын

I purchased a Diamond Tremolo, and it has gotta-be: The Most Underrated pedal-ever = thick, analog, phenomenal sounding tremolo.

@jada90 Жыл бұрын

Literally my answer is "yes" to your very first sentence. I was sitting around wondering what mod to buy, then decided to see if there was a JHS video to help me. Ask and ye shall receive!

@guitarfeverl.a.8502 3 жыл бұрын

Good haircut this week Josh 👶

@TerrestrialMack 3 жыл бұрын

Ring worm and ring thing all day 🔥

@lukemason7842 3 жыл бұрын

Great episode! Classic JHS style this is why I love the JHS show!

@jamesestrada7956 2 жыл бұрын

Man, I love the educational content on this channel so much :)

@singlesideman 2 жыл бұрын

The 1970's: a lotta things happened, but basically modulation happened. I remember it so very well. It was absolutely brilliant. So much ground covered. So much development, so much growth...

@jhneilson 3 жыл бұрын

Really sad there wasn’t even a mention of tape flange (which, in my opinion, sounds much different than something like the Electric Mistress). Still, great video and explanations

@Mark70609 3 жыл бұрын

The through zero effect.

@johndiloreto3738 2 жыл бұрын

Would've also been nice to see something other than the Electric Mistress for flange. Every version of the EM i've ever heard sounds terrible

@michaelsnydermusic 3 жыл бұрын

I agree on the Line 6 MM 4 (Modulation Modeler). It’s amazing, especially with the expression pedal. I have a Helix now and it features everything on this series of pedals but I still can’t give mine up (+ DL4). I wish you’d do an episode or series dedicated to this pedal line. Including the less lesser knowns FM4 & DM4.

@shadyburnike264 3 жыл бұрын

Finally got my Atradies...l cant get enough of it

@KYCDK 3 жыл бұрын

i don't like people demoing flanger, you only need to put everything low and you get this nice flowing water sound, to use the electric mistress you gotta keep everything under half way everything should be around 9:00 speed should be less than 9:00 colour should be at 9:00 and range should be over 9:00 by a little bit

@zachary963 3 жыл бұрын

I love using every setting really subtle, and then crank the depth. Lol

@KYCDK 2 жыл бұрын

@@zachary963 same, thats the best way to do it, you get a nice watery sound, very pink floyd

@L.Scott_Music 3 жыл бұрын

SO was a Uni-Vibe the main FX on Pink Floyd's "Have a Cigar"?

@rhysevancampbell 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh, really good summary. Clears up a lot for me ☺️

@xMobbzx 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing - I have a boss pedal sized hole in the effects loops part of my pedal board. Miku Stomp is in the lead for taking that spot but we’ll just have to see won’t we.

@Saxby8six 3 жыл бұрын

JHS is great and all but is Josh out there solving the world's energy crisis like Mike Matthews?

@joshallen4848 3 жыл бұрын

UFOs may actually be JHS employees coming back from the future to thank Mike Matthews for solving the energy crisis.... I mean, maybe. You can't rule it out.

@seanmulcahy6436 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a bit crusher pedal which often ends up sounding like ring modulator depending on how it's set. Is there something similar going on? Or just coincidence?

@Grommie122 Жыл бұрын

Update: I bought the Boss MD200. I went with that one because it's smaller, but still didn't fit on my board, so you know I bought a bigger board. I know what you're thinking... yes my fiancé didn't leave me. It is great, so much fun I didn't realize it had built in distortion and fuzz as well. I've never had a pedal that I've instantly fell in love with. Thanks for the recommend CEREAL MAN

@fredstevens799 3 жыл бұрын

Josh - Awesome & very helpful vid (again!). When you mentioned auto-wah (sometimes describing a LFO-driven wah sound, alternately named for funky envelope-filter attack voltage-driven sounds) I wondered why that and just simple wah (pretty earth-shattering sound when first invented) aren't considered "modulation" and left out of this fine vid. After all, it is "moving" the TONE/filter (vs volume or pitch) manually with the pedal or with an adjustable LFO or with attack amplitude and certainly "modulates" the sound of the note when used. Thanks for the lesson! (again!)

@pwoolcoc 3 жыл бұрын

demonstrating tremolo without playing How Soon Is Now? illegal imo

@hurrywait 3 жыл бұрын

And you cry and you want to die?

@thetribalist6923 3 жыл бұрын

Born on the Bayou is my must play for trem.

@IrLosin 3 жыл бұрын

there is some serious Face pareidolia going on with that pedal. To me it seems content.

@scottshelley9528 3 жыл бұрын

@@hurrywait Seems so unfair ...

@jimmyparris9892 3 жыл бұрын

I have just learned that I will never need a ring modulator. It sounds like Ross Geller trying to find his sound. Edit: However my favorite modulation is call "octoverb" on the Line 6 Helix

@MrKylederp 3 жыл бұрын

A pitch corrected ring modulator is an amazing tool to behold.

@simon_patterson 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very useful, interesting and informative presentation.

@andresmm24 3 жыл бұрын

FINALLY I been waiting this episode for years

@joesmith8398 3 жыл бұрын

Josh, how 'bout a Flanger that can get the Andy Summers' chorus sound as well as the "Barracuda" flanger sound ? Thanks ! You could call it the "Andycuda" or the "Barrasummers". Um...er....uh....sorry :-/

@deanallen9660 3 жыл бұрын

I bet you'd be happy with the Strymon Deco. Those sounds and more are on the Lag control. Check it out, you might dig it.

@joesmith8398 3 жыл бұрын

@@deanallen9660 Oh, cool, thanks for that , I will check it out.

@TheRealcdawg22 3 жыл бұрын

EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress. It's the OG Chorusing Flanger. That's what Summers actually used. I think that Baracuda was recorded with the ADA Flanger (Howard Leese???) But the Mistress can get there.

@joesmith8398 3 жыл бұрын

Barracuda was recorded with a one of a kind custom made flanger utilizing Panasonic 4096 chip. That's what Howard Leese said in an interview. Allegedly, one of his former techs now owns that flanger.

@TheRealcdawg22 3 жыл бұрын

@@joesmith8398 I hadn't heard that. I'll take your word for it.

@marcorosella88 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there josh, I was wondering if you could make a “chorus” by running a vibrato in parallel with your dry signal? Like using a splitter with a vibrato on one side and your dry signal on the other side, then sum that together into your amp, would that work?

@gilibertopaparauchas5959 3 жыл бұрын

I aint josh, but Yes you can!! I have done it using two amps and it sounds fantastic, you would need a dry/wet box in order to do it with one amp though, but its possible

@Hepnotical 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely