Little do we know, Brian is running fake accounts and putting out outrageous posts in order to wind up armchair ridden, old man Jim.

At least meltzer is relevant

Russo doesn't give a damn about wrestling anymore

@@SandMan1998 he never did

@@SandMan1998 Not true in the slightest. If Russo didn't care about wrestling these days, he wouldn't have a wrestling podcast, and he sure as hell wouldn't be trying to get back into WWE.

Dave does have a point did mjf sell any of that during the pipebomb ? Nope

@@population-_-420 Yeah. If that what he was referencing, he has a point. I was kind of surprised Jim didn’t criticize his lack of selling for the powerbombs during his “pipe bomb” promo. That’s always a nitpick of his. Properly selling damage and continuity. He could have come out with a neck brace and then tore it off as he yells and gets his adrenaline pumping. As for the PPV, MJF was on a stretcher and receiving oxygen (apparently through his eyeballs). I guess to Dave, that’s not selling enough. Did Dave want him to have a seizure to sell the devastation à la Hulk Hogan after a powerbomb?

@@shootist0052 funny that he criticize lacks of selling yet praise people who take spine safety risking head bumps and gets up 5 secs after it...

Dave Meltzer actually had a point with that Take …..

Everyone of his favorite play wrestlers sell nothing. So he can pound sand

Bingo

They always have. People listen to him too much.

I can’t imagine being so blinkered that I thought that mess put on by Jericho’s job squad was better than any match Kurt Angle ever had

@@mahakalavanilla6263 Dave really needs to go back and redo some of his old reviews he definitely changed the scale I do think omega vs okada series was great definitely 5 stars but there is no excuse for Kurt Angle or HBK to not have had a single 5 star match cause HBK vs Angle WM 21 was amazing so was HBK vs Undertaker at WM 25 and hell in my opinion HBK vs flair would have been 5 stars if Flair didn’t break the retirement stip by going to TNA

@@mahakalavanilla6263 dude bearly gave Bryan 5 stars cause he on aew. Dave is completely full of himself. Taker was right that the young guys shouldn't listen to him.

Oh god I wish that rent free phrase would die

For someone so "irrelevant' too

@@hornylorney8150 So, kill it

Well, meltzer does it too

His perplexed "what?" was wonderful.

That's the problem right there. Why would anyone take an autistic robot like Meltzer's view of a match seriously? I don't think Hart/Austin, 1997, is the most exciting match ever (or close to it). It's a Bret Hart match. You either like that style or you don't. I never cared for it. Match wasn't magic either. Austin was getting pops since November, while Hart was getting booed two months prior. Difference is that Hart, who normally plays heel in a face match, didn't redeem himself, and instead kept attacking him. The match did its job: double turned. Very effective, with some boring periods (IMO). Meltzer "rates" based off of "transitions," "workrate," how many spots get blown (that he can see), and structure. I used to be able to create to a tee his match ratings. It's almost like he's not human. That he ended up a spergy high spot nerd was clear as day 20 years ago. It's people like Cornette who always ignored that about him since DM liked Mid South.

Couldn’t Agree More Fella 💯

He really said that match was as good as Hart vs Austin at Wrestlemania?

@@pirateradio6429 Meltzer was very picky with his 5 star ratings once upon a time. That WM13 match was a 5 star, that he couldn't even be picky on. Now, he gives them away willy nilly. His rating of the match is him saying its on par with WM13 Hart vs Austin.

He gave that horrible and embarrassing thing 5 stars ? What the F***!!

Confirmation bias and ego, mainly. He is a name that people who obsess over wrestling know and him giving high ratings to matches that they enjoy activates neurons.

Daddy Magic Matt Menard and Cool Hand Angie have more 5 star matches now too since Dave gave Anarchy 5 stars. LOL!

@@jamesparker6364 The Rock, Edge, Orton, HHH, Angle, Roman and lesnar have all had at least 1 or 2 or more 5 star matches. Problem is they weren't in Tokyo dome

@@metalheadjake3339 in a 60 minute no sell

You and me both Fella 💯

Do u mean the hogan vs rock match

Perfect Example Hogan vs Andere -4 Stars which loudest Crowd ever and Jericho vs Gage 4 Stars even tho he hated both Matches

@@thomaskia8441 hogan vs rock was even better because the crowd was going ballistic non-stop, the crowd turned a simple spot like hogan’s finisher into a 2 count - into one of the greatest wrestling moments on video, please rewatch it on youtube. it’s glorious

Whoa wait wtf really he did

@@aliciasimmons8473 yeah. Meltzer's guilty of this a lot. People have already listed Hogan-Rock and Hogan-Andre as examples. In those cases Meltzer says something along the lines of "It doesn't matter how into it the crowd are, the match is bad". Nowadays (oddly enough with a lot of AEW matches) Meltzer will say "it's not my thing, I don't like this match, but the crowd was really into it so 5 stars". He's full of contradiction.

Yeah him and Alvarez were stroking Tony hard.

He was the one supplying baby oil to the rest of the media there that night

Bryan Alvarez asked Jericho the weirdest question. What are these guys on?

to be fair all the """""""journalists"""""""" there did. It was a room full of hand-picked, glorified bloggers. If an *actual* journalist showed up and asked Coke Head an actual hard ball question he'd either cry or go on an angry tirade...well, an additional angry tirade.

@@lracseroom8286 that was the guy that asked the bischoff question.

It's a side deal with the Bucks.

He’s on more than Punk

It was a nice fun match IMO but this is a match that isn’t meant to be rated or taken seriously. Dave is completely out of his mind.

And botches and guys landing on their heads.

And trying to set someone on fire

Dave Meltzer is either on the AEW Payroll or he has Bumped his Head way too many times ….. 🤷🏿‍♂️

@@elnino80100 I mean he didn't rate the Sami Zayn v Knoxville match, which is exactly what he should have done for this match.

Not supposedly on the payroll. Only thing He yearns for is recognition and acceptance. Which is why he is called Anal Wrestling Rainman Uncle Dave.

Dave really needs to rewatch that scene from Almost Famous. Where the editor is explaining why you shouldn’t want to belong to the groups you’re writing about because it kills objectivity and thus any credibility.

well guys formerly known as Undisputed Era are hell-bent on not being presented as high level talents today thus making Dave right

You can reasonably complain about some of the booking but certainly not Cornette’s eye for talent and most of the people he wanted to push. Dave’s just mad that Cornette scoffs at his favourite wrestlers

Exactly Bro 💯

I hate to tell you it, but Reddit are pretty big on friends with wrestling Bucks/Omega.

@@MrEast111 SquaredCircle is a joke and an embarrassment.

True, but Corny will go miles out of his way to badmouth Russo (which I admit is not a bad thing at all...)

@@bury_the_elite65294 Russo personally fucked Jim over in a professional setting multiple times. Meltzer spent years kissing up to Jim behind the scenes and publicly smearing him on Twitter to protect the elite’s image. Dave traded most of his own credibility as a journalist to become AEW’s press secretary. The Russo thing is a personal grievance. The Meltzer thing is a calculated business decision.

Dave never had any credibility except for what the supposed (non-existent) wrestling literati designated. He's invested in AEW because that's all that he ever wanted wrestling to be. Period. And it sucks because his analysis always sucked. People want to see characters, plausible foils in feuds, and matches that touch the base for what the audience pays to see. Only a small number pay for workrate, and I don't even buy into that since same ones think Shane Douglas is a martyr of politics when he was always a hack too

Hilarious that Meltzer who raved about all the outstanding Misawa vs Kawada matches that tore down the house for All Japan in the 90s watches anything from AEW and goes “Yeah this is equal too or better than those matches” is literal lunacy. I hope I don’t go that crazy when I’m his age.

@@vannavanity1195 Yeah I find todays obsession with workrate to be rather misguided. Sure you want good matches but then consider that MJF vs Wardlow was the hottest feud on the show and it had zero to do with match quality.

@@SpacedCobraIII I never cared for workrate, and I think Meltzer rates matches like an AI robot and as a consumer advocate. It just depends on what you like. I never cared for Flair's work. He wrestles like a 3 Stooges character, and I've never read him once in my life as a tough guy. Bret Hart came off as tough but his matches are a hit and miss with me. His matches plod a lot, he's a really crappy ace in that he's not engaging, and it takes him forever to get to his conclusion. Not everyone wants a 500-page novel, and being 500 pages doesn't make it better. His best work was with his own contemporaries for a reason. Characters have to resonate with you. I enjoyed Warrior matches: he sold well for his more menacing opponents, he was a hell of an ace, and he had a lot of good matches that no one wants to acknowledge since Meltzer supposedly is smart. I can watch the Steiners over LOD. I thought Shawn Michaels was a great face. I could take the Undertaker seriously since he has a freak leap. Kane is safe for others but I think he's boring. Just depends on preference. The whole idea behind match ratings is this idea that there's a certain way a match is supposed to unfold. I'm looking for character work and foils. Wrestling isn't a sport and has never been one. It's a drama. I can enjoy a Hulk Hogan match in his prime, and I thought they were good. But I'm not one who is going to cheer for him to do a Lazarus routine, which is what Hogan matches are. It's the kind of thing sports fans are into. I'm not conformist enough to care for that. Major praises for Orndorff (menacing), Honky Tonk Man (awesome comedy wrestler), and Dusty Rhodes. I thought Rooster was great for sympathy foil since he's a loveable loser. Austin had a certain fire that was pretty nuts. OTOH, if you really think about Shane Douglas, it's not hard to see why he never went anywhere. Guy's sense of self is so poor that he could never find a character for himself. Luger is one of the most apathetic aces I've ever seen, like he never seemed to want to be there. Great body. It's entertainment. Smarks really killed that industry, but that's true for 90s pop culture in general where the form was all killed for shock, and then everything went meta

Anyone who gave his opinions any credence is slower than a Neanderthal. He’s no more qualified than you or I and shouldn’t be treated as anything more.

Always Germans. That’s what pops me.

I like Omega. Bucks not so much. However I know that Meltzer has lost it

I think it's more like "they've got him by the balls financially.". Looks at the YT vids the observer puts up. They rarely break 10 k. How many subscribers do you think he has for his little rag anymore? A couple thousand? Did you see the *pathetic* turnout for his Q&A the day before the AEW PPV? There were, *maybe* 20 people there? It reminded me of the "Lonely Virgil" meme. He's a washed up relic, probably in dire straights financially and likely relies on Tony to help him put groceries in his cupboards and keep the lights on. No wonder he has an raging AEW bias.

Exactly! This whole facade is ridiculous.

Right 😜

And they keep bringing it up like it's a revelation!

From a wrestling perspective, it was good. It's the business model they had that sucked lol. ROH wasn't going to survive doing PPV's every 12 weeks on HD Net. Jim knew that, and took it to a place where it could succeed. Without Jim's successes, and failures, ROH would've never gotten on Sinclair. And if they didn't get on Sinclair, they wouldn't have had the budget to push Cody, The Bucks and Omega to the moon.

Nobody knew roh back then

He ruined the special indie club for wrestling geeks by trying to make it money. All cult fandoms are like this

Jim came in, While they were in the middle of rebuilding. It's a stupid argument that people try to make.

Same boat

5 for me 🤣

Lol, midnight here, I'll fall asleep around 6, till then I'll be listening to Cornette

Using logic and reason with them doesn't work. You have to be wrong so they can be right. It's the way people are today sadly. Before we could have an intense debate and in the end agree to disagree because it's all personal taste. Now it's like Dave. They gotta be right so you clearly are wrong. Just ask them and they will craft a way to tell you that you are.

You say that, but every week the Corny, and Corny faithful come here to call people, idiots, stupid, questioning there man hood, gender stereotypes or what ever. You can't just say one side is toxic when you listen to Corny. He's one of the most hateful people. Both sides of the fence are wrong.

@@brianmilici3473 Have you looked at Corny's comment section, and videos. It's the most hateful place on earth. All of wrestling fandom is toxic. Which is weird because one side doesn't even like modern wrestling, so why the hell are they even watching.

@@eldrickemc4602 honestly I don't know many Contents sections that aren't hateful. Not defending it, but I've found far more reasonable people in conversing with Cornette fans than I do when I converse with other wrestling fans. The things I get called when I criticize AEW is so strange to me. You can criticize and still root for something.

@@eldrickemc4602 I disagree. Whether in person or over text, I've talked to several fans, and many had different opinions. I've been in discussions about different eras of wrestling, different companies, certain people's careers, and nowhere have I seen more butthurt than when an AEW fan jumps in. I gave it a legitimate shot. I watched it. I hate it. And for that, I'm told I don't like wrestling. Like many people, it's because I love wrestling, as a concept, as a valid form of entertainment, that I hate those shows. If you, or anyone else likes it, that's great. I'm honestly happy for you. No joke. And I won't say you don't like wrestling. He disagree, and that's fine. You don't get that, from a certain, vocal sect of Fandom.

so in retrospect we should be thanking Tony Kahn for bringing cm punk back and bryan danielson then. it's obvious that Bryan's moveset works better in an environment like aew compared to the wwe

Well he's also rumored to have been one of his sources during the Monday night wars

Meltzer in the 80s: Every Hogan match is the same. Meltzer today watching the young bucks have the same match for the 1,000th time: “This is incredible!”

Exactly right! I made that point too. Wrestling is and has always been a modeling job, telling stories and orchestrating matches between foils that carry literary or cultural relevance. The rest doesn't matter. Plus, AEW doesn't even draw money. AEW ran one single house show and drew better than WCW only between late 1992 and 1993. That's why they don't run them!! Rampage B does worse than NXT C. Dynamite A does worse than both Smackdown A and Raw B, despite having the advantage of running only two hours. Yet Meltzer every week has a headline like "AEW RAMPAGE BOUNCES BACK: DREW BEST RATING SINCE APRIL 18 WITH 400,000 VIEWERS." 🤣 Also made the same point you made earlier too: Meltzer & Cornette are the same types of people

Once upon a time he did, but he's so infatuated with modern wrestling he thinks it's the greatest shit ever.

I've said it a million times, Tony Khan shouldn't be listening to anything Dave Meltzer says about "what is a good product". He's right in that it's about drawing money, Except for the fact that it's not reflected in his philosophies of wrestling and his own personal bias & preference, Which I guarantee, Would negate his ability to actually draw money if he was ever a wrestling promoter. That's actually the case for just about every wrestling promoter & mind, That's ever existed, Including Cornette. As for his MJF "whatever" statement. MJF had the best matches on the Revolution PPV with Punk and the Full Gear PPV with Darby and that's almost universally agreed upon. Where did he rank them? "I can't believe MJF no sold Wardlow's powerbombs on Dynamite"....You mean like doing two destroyers, One from the top rope and one on the floor and then no selling it 5 minutes later in the match. He's an idiot. A consistent one too.

I am Tempted to give Your Comment 5 ⭐️ Bro …..

@@constablekennedy7705 7 stars if he commented in while being inside tokyo dome

...and slapped its leg every time while doing so

I'm finding modern day NWA pretty enjoyable.

Jim would be happy there - listen to how much he loves wide open spaces!

Yes

@@wwltd3036 😂

Reporting what people told you directly are neither of those. You still leave it to the listeners to decide.

He's on the Kahn payroll, so I'm sure he does whatever Kahn wants.

The way Dave reacted he was 100% worked by MJF. Idk about SRS, part of me thinks he knows.

Bacon Mushroom Meltzer for the win

Pretty sure not even Tony Khan is saying that, now that he has CM Punk.

One meme wrestler and flavour of the week to the next, leaving a trail of bones ripped from the corpse of wrestling behind them to satisfy their adderall-addled dog brains that can’t focus on one thing longer than it takes to cook their tendies. I’m glad somewhere exists for guys to make money but every time I hear Khan or one of their smug geek fans on Twitter I root for them to fail.

Did he not notice that one of the participants was CONCUSSED? The whole Jeff Hardy thing is terrifying, someone at AEW really failed in their job there (was it the corpse referee again?), I'll be interested to see what he says about Cody and if he makes complaints about being needlessly reckless there...

That shitshow was so bad on the Hardy’s part that I almost thought the Bucks looked decent for about 7 seconds

Maybe Meltzer should go work for Fox News. He'd be a perfect fit.

@Marc Carran Get bent. Aspies are defects. Can't interact with other people, can't compute criticism, can't entertain a perspective other than their own. See also: every employee of the tech industry.

@Marc Carran Oh, and do a headstand into a running wood chipper.

That's why he's so cut throat, he doesn't want a job so he doesn't give a shit.

Is Brian Last paying you.

@@matt92550 naaahhh lol

Do you know who created those star ratings??

@@bls8959 Yes. But here's the difference.. The Original Cornette/Dooley star ratings rated how over a segment was with the live crowd. If it was over, it got a high rating. If it got crickets chirping, it got a low star rating. Meltzer has given DUD or negative stars to matches that blew the roof off the place. Just because he has a personal problem with someone in the match. And he has also given high star ratings to matches that never drew, and had lots of bored fans watching it. Why? Because he's buddies(or at least believes he is) with someone in the match.

@@danielburger1775 Its all personal opinion...that being said wrestling hasn't been good since 2005

his actual ability to break news is still pretty solid, it's his opinion that has gone downhill markedly in recent years.

Like he's certainly off base. I don't think that makes him a terrible person though.

Let's be real here, Dave is not a terrible person based off his job and his reporting. It's cool if you want to disagree, fuck off with the terrible person shit.

Hitler was a terrible person. Dave is just an annoying mark for trampoline wrestling

@@UFCWWE69 The Greatest Story Never Told

Omega is an insufferable twat and the most overrated wrestler in history but is a decent overall athlete and can have a good match with the right opponent, like Danielson. There is literally nothing redeeming about the Cucks. They suck on every measurable level and a lot of people have seem through that horseshit by now. I’d be fine never seeing any of them on TV again though.

Don't use words you can't even spell!

Bic Mac is nasty. QP w/Cheese 4 Lyfe

30 second Google search disproved your comment...then again, it's YT comments so I should expect people making sh*t up and trying to pass it off as fact.

Big Boy's Big Boy burger was first. Big Mac didn't come around until the 60s. They're the practically the same sandwich.

Still better than wwe

@@84seahawkfan congrats. Vomit is better than shit.

@@84seahawkfan I personally find both shows equally unwatchable but for different reasons.