Man I enjoy listening to smart people complain about what’s wrong with wrestling more than watching wrestling.

Chris Benoits entrance was super convincing..no poses on the ramp, ropes or anything

A problem that took me out of AEW was how they can act like they know it's fake and are embarrassed it's fake so to prevent their humiliations they go "Hey we know it's fake so we'll perform tongue in cheek with the fakeness." It's frustrating. Movies are fake, stage shows are fake, etc. but we enjoy and get sucked into them all the same if they're done well. Same with wrestling. What also annoys me is it bleeds over to the one's who are trying to put on believable performances. AEW has become WWE-lite sports entertainment... or "Cirque du Soleil on steroids" or whatever they referred to it as. Everything I was lead to believe they would be is almost all gone. I was so excited back in the first few months but the excitement slowly drained away as I realized what was happening.

So basically despite the fans knowing everything about the business, despite all the shoots you can find on the internet, despite many of the wrestlers being on social media, when the show is on, the objective should still be the same as it always was; get people to believe in what you're doing. The wrestlers nowadays have the mentality that since everybody knows the ins and outs, they don't have to try anymore. WRONG!

somebody said Steroids and cocain need to be inducted in to the hall of fame..

I cant remember the last time I saw a simple hip toss .

Ughh the deliberate waiting to catch the diving wrestler, is just cringe, at least do it more discretely

The AEW Roster has Left the Chat ... 💭

Around 4:33 I had an ad, so the sequence went "they're all working with... ...crispy, fluffy, home style Eggo waffles."

It’s like how “hip hop” fans only like trap music so popular artists only pump out trap garbage versus releasing quality hip hop music. The audience dictates the product.

There are no longer character-based wrestlers. Its hard to act when you are just like any other wrestler.

Ric Flair in the 80’s would do lots of cocaine and alcohol and his promos were awesome. Lol

One word- COMPLACENT; they already think they’ve made it.

The pose mid-entrance only makes sense for cocky heels who are trying to force the audience to love him.

No one watching believes the guy in the ring could beat them up or is actually tough.

The ‘MARKS’ are no longer Online, they now Reside in the Wrestling Ring ... So of course they are not Convincing as Pro Wrestlers because most of them are CosPlaying ... 🕳

I loved when triple h would go red in the face and shake with rage while doing a promo

When fans turned against The Rock at WM18, he and Hogan went with it and created a classic. A great example of how the stars of years past may not have been as athletically impressive but they could work in a way that most can't anymore.

Ever seen Dazed and Confused? Omega and the Bucks look like they need a good paddling.

One of my favorite and finest Piper promo moment,to ole anderson"i don't wanna mess with ya, you're strong as an ox and almost as smart.Timeless!!!!

The fights in Gymkata are more believable than anything WWE or AEW is doing.

I agree with Cornette. Very, very few (in all of the promotions today, in the U.S.) can act enough to be totally believable. Just like they don't know how to do decent, believable promos.

Travis' graphic is brilliant...."Alas poor Hogan! I knew him..."

That's why Brock Lesnar was vital for wwe.

Technical and submission wrestlers are the best. It's the standard type a promoter can count on when sticking to the profession's roots

Love him or hate him, Brock is the best at selling, And making his feuds more believable than anyone else's. He hardly even has ring time, Or even talks. But when he does both, Hes definitely one of the all time best.

I miss actual wrestling moves, working parts of the body, wearing down your opponent and then seeing the big comeback. Then seeing baby faces go over. Or, heels go over after doing something dastardly. But, ALWAYS using their finishing moves that actual “finishes” the match. That’s what’s lost on today’s wrestling. Everything is scripted. Everything is the same high flying moves. Finishing moves don’t ever finish matches anymore. It’s just so bland and repetitive that it’s unwatchable

I agree with the headliner. Most wrestlers today lack sincerity

The #1 problem is that the wrestlers themselves don't respect their own craft. For all they know they're doing everything perfectly.

How could one expect the average promo to be any good when these men and women take inspiration from video games and cartoons? I like that stuff too but wrestling was it's own medium for so long without it successfully

There's no more ring psychology

It’s pretty true. Took my father in law who never watched wrestling in his life. The low card guys like Zach Ryder it clearly looked like a show. It felt like the Disney Indiana jones show. When we got to Aj styles and Seth Rollins it was a completely different level.

This video has it all - Travis nailing the thumbnail, Corny having valid points about modern wrestling, Corny being the most ok of boomers about modern wrestling fans, Corny being a wonderful oral historian, and of course Corny and Bryan having the most tortured segue to their sponsors

I just can't get enough of Jim Cornette talking about his time in Mid South. I could listen to those stories forever. (Thinking about you "Beautiful" Bobby. RIP)

Sent a related e-mail months ago. It’s basically a conveyor belt spewing out robots. As if they found some formula and make every wrestler follow it exactly. Every once in awhile I try to watch and I can’t make it through a few minutes. Too staged. No improvisation. I can’t pinpoint when exactly it got this bad. Probably just gradually over the last 10 years.

Majority of marks Jim talk about are now hosting podcasts and blogging shows online. Bill Watts definitely doesn't get the credit he should for establishing the careers of so many wrestlers such as JYD, Rick Steiner, Jim Cornette etc.

Wrestling has gone the way of NASCAR in some ways... Just not fun to watch or follow for quite a while.

Cornette knows his wrestling, I can listen to him for hours! Jim Cornette, Gorilla Monsoon, and Bobby Heenan Are My Top 3 wrestling minds!👑

In 10 years, the Canadian Destroyer would be the new superkick, and I cringe at that thought.

Ppl get mad at him but for the love of god he is telling the truth the difference between wrestling then and now is the acting for Christ sake we have pat mcafee cutting better promos than the last 15 years vets that’s sad!

The problem with coke is that it does make you come across as legit dangerous. So, it sort of helps while doing promos.

The audience is a big problem. Corny nailed it. You can blame the audience for the lack of selling and the proliferation of dives. Hopefully Corny will address the JR/AEW controversy which is a prime example of what he's talking about. (My video on the JR statement will be up on Monday 12/14)

It's really a shame that AEW doesn't listen to Jim... imagine what they could do if they would follow Jim and have the talent they have.... The next level for pro wrestling is combining the old mentality with the new flippy shit....

"prepackaged, choreograph drama", Cornette nailed it for me. After years of not watching rasslin for years I watched a match from Georgia Championship Wrestling where Mr. Wrestling No.2 used hip tosses and headlock take downs on a jobber and I totally appreciated it.

No one sells the lomg term impact of a Finishers anymore, just appear next week like you didn't just get put through a table. Lana should be table proof now, in fact it should be her gimmick, like she no sells table spots and just laughs.

Super TRUE! Specially ZSJ, the guy's face is just blank whatever he does (his technical prowess can't be denied though) A lot of new performers don't know how to sell.. Like when they get DDTd, they don't even touch their head to make it look like the move hurts or when someone gets superkicked, no body bothers on holding their chin.. Or when they get suplexed, they don't bother on touching their back...

A large majority of these modern wrestlers can learn a lot from Undertaker. He kept to his character, in and out of the ring.

Haha buck hogan, blading buck looking like his idol each time and twinkle toes Mcfingerbang loving this artwork, the Bucks acting tough is all kinds of gold instead of just being douches

i mean pro fighters have often done poses at weigh ins or before a bout, at least as far back as Mike Tysons debut

The entrance posing drives me crazy. Especially now with these idiots posing in empty rooms. Immediately kills it for me, I can't watch the modern crap.

One of the big problems is that nobody conmits to a gimmick or persona anymore. They're "actors" who play different roles depending on where they are working. There're honorable exceptions (Bray Wyatt, Roman Reigns, Cody Rhodes, Jon Moxley, Becky Lynch, Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, Rosemary, Eric Yung...) who commit wholeheartedly to the character they're supposed to portray. Those people more often than not react the way they are supposed to react. Then you have a lot of people with no personality of their own and no real character traits either because they are used to just do moves for the sake of doing them, overreacting and doing bad comedy of extreme violence to elicit a reaction from the 500 people who see them at the high school gym or the bingo hall or even worse, for the 40-50 people that see them "perform" in their backyard. The crisis of the NWA and its downfall in the early 90s was the origin, especially WCW and ECW splitting from it in 93 and 94. ECW created a subculture, WCW and WWF kinda followed up and when there was no more WCW and no more ECW something had to replace them, and the independent scene began to grow. When WWE had to go PG the underground indy culture took over.

Just instagram models calling themselves wrestlers these days it's absolute garbage has been for years, remember ken shamrock Dan Severn Steve blackman? Midcarders u could believe and with great themes! Thats what wrestling is about

Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes did the most legendary promos on complete freestyle mode lol. Spilled liquor, the gator shoes, etc. You should not have to tell anyone what to say let the guy run with his gimmick and natural charisma and let him get it over. If he cant then he wont and that's that

Jim is way more smarter than Tony Khan

There is something to be said about the old school style of wrestling both in ring and promos. It wasn't always pretty. People stumbled (in ring and on promos) but if you think about it that actually adds to the realism. In real life fights aren't beautifully choreographed. In real life you don't always have articulate, perfectly thought out conversations. The more I think about it I actually enjoy it

I wonder if they'll get Roman or someone to take out someone like the Rock or even Stone Cold, pardon the random comment but there isn't anywhere better to post things like this on the Internet

The entrance poses are straight out of the video game realm, the old n64 THQ/AKI games especially.

Olivier, Buck Hogan and Balding Buck would be absolutely stretched by Cowboy Bill Watts, Verne Gagne, The Funks or Eddie Graham.

What gets me is that NXT just stopped trying to compete. I know the pandemic has hurt business, but the show lost whatever creativity it had, and the screens and piped in crowd, with the small live crowd makes for a schizophrenic experience. Also, losing Marco Ranallo hurt the announcing.

Wrestlers today don't look like they're in a fight I grew up on Crokett. I never thought it was "real" but I could lose myself watching simulated violence I don't want M.M.A. but I want to lose my disbelief What if in the middle of Terminator the movie just said this is all stunts and Arnold isn't really a robot it would suck

I agree with literally 100% of the email.

Wrestling now days is more like a talk show. Wrestlers going back and forth with each other with lousy scripts. But it's funny to watching them when they screwup a wrestling move. And the other wrestler will do his/her best to try to cover for the other wrestler mistake.

Problem now is everyone in every match thinks they're Austin vs Rock at X7 or XIX but look like, wrestle like, and have sold the tickets/merch of Gillberg vs Jumpin Jeff Farmer.

My biggest peeve besides the lack of actual wrestling. Is the backstage middle school valley girl bs . The interviewers ask questions of men and women questions that a middles schooler would ask a friend to get them angry. There is no level of maturity to it... I can’t believe I just said that. Adult to a degree doesn’t mean dirty either because I want kids to actually watch it as I did. I know it doesn’t all have to be so serious but perhaps a little better than it is.

I got a parasitic isopod from Omaha steak when they used to sell fish. The doctor tried to lure it out but had to be put under. Was nearly 6 inches n looked like a giant skinny louse sorta. Getting interviewed at the hospital by the news was cool even if they didnt run it.

Would've loved a story where Chad Gable is against Kurt Angle, they fued then unite and kurt passes down the Olympic slam to Chad. Brock mocks Angle and Chad stands up to Brock, yet angle know he is not Ready. Then he faces Brock to prove to Kurt that he is ready, but fails..goes away trains, learns more and puts on some more muscle. Then Returns to face the beast, this time he wins.... And a Real star is born. Then he and Jason Jordan Begin their own Rivalry. Oops 🤦🏾‍♂️...it was sounding good.

The stupid staginess and pre-scrifted promos is still no excuse for the community theatre/renaissance fair-level acting. Pretending to be hurt really isn't difficult.

Tim Storm, i believe that man, I'm convinced he's fighting for his family . No ones cares, just want a reaction to spots.

Those God Damn Cucamonga Kids!

I'll spend 3 hours listening Brian and Corney talk wrestling instead of watching 3 minutes of today's "wrestling".

To whoever is doing the artwork on these videos, why do you draw like Olivier is capable of growing a beard?

thats the main reason why i stopped watching wrestling was because of the acting. it just wasnt belieavable anymore and i know at its core its fake but for fuck sakes if your gonna lie to me...DO IT PROPERLY!! bring back attitude era FFS lol

Stone colds entrance. Stomp in pissed off.

Too many guys just want to get their sh*t in rather than really work a match.

We went from the Benoit Guerrero era to the John Cena era. Benoit and Guerrero combination of Charisma and strict auras influenced those locker rooms back in the mid 2000s when I grew up watching wrestling. Everybody in the locker room with them wanted to be like them and have that same intensity (in wrestling of course). Then you have John Cena as who I know went through OVW and Jim found a great talent there but we can't lie to ourselves and saying that he has the same intensity as the stars I just mentioned. Cena comes across very hoaky sometimes. He then gets pushed as a top guy and the others performers in the back in a way now have him as their role model and locker room leader. So now you have this generation of superstars looking up to the likes of a John Cena who has a great promo in him but comes across hoaky from time to time and today's generation unfortunately would have learnt those kind of traits along the way hence why we have went from serious, Charismatic hard working performers that cared for the craft to a more not care for that kind of style approach which is shame. What Benoit done outside of the ring was unforgivable but I feel every Wrestling company, especially AEW can do with an authorative figure like Benoit in their locker room to give them a kick in the ass and a reality check.

All this talk of Coke heads and wrestling has made me want a Cinematic style Back Alley Brawl between a coked up Roddy Piper vs coked up Al Pacino!!

Cool I love it really so much you are so amazing

I wish the super kick and ddt were used as finishers again.

Please Jim and Brian review The Young Cucks book "Killing the Business" as it's essentially what they've done.

This is exactly why I watch NWA, MLW and NJPW. Stick with the basics.

Feels like everyone wants to be a cross between a knock off Jeff Hardy and a half assed Steve Austin.

The business can be resurrected I think regardless of what anyone says. You just need the right minds and the right characters which it lacks

Sami Callihan is the only believable guy. He cuts great promos and it works well with his in-ring scumbag gimmick. Even Jim praised him for staying in character and tweeting that he'd do it again in a heartbeat after the baseball bat incident, while every other wrestler was begging him to apologise for it.

I have a feeling Kenny Olivier gonna be mentioned

Has Jim done a video on JR’s comments on AEW?

Pullman is killing it in ovw

People have parts these days and are not just them self turned up to 11. And people have to weirdly be there gimmick not just have one an be a person. There was more to Tracy Smothers then being southern but he gave you that face of him turned up to 11.

These Indy guys only know how to do moves in the ring. They don’t learn how to be a professional wrestlers. No psychology, no selling, no promos, no stage presence. Other than Ex WWE guys does AEW have 1 legit superstar? One that can be in movies, host award/TV shows, or give good interviews for crossover audiences (Sportscenter, GMA)?

I wanna hear Corny's Lawler promo

Tell me the AEW guys are in there practicing and going ALL WEEK! How can they not be doing this?!?!?!? I was barely trained.....sooooo I'd be jumping in there as "practice working" al week leading up to the TV.

Somebody should do a Jim Cornette movie. U have the most interesting life. Should be on film

Because they are all friends.

For me personally, Kenny Omega isn't AWFUL: he is very bad on the mic and needs a manager, but he isn't the stinking shits, in my opinion. What pisses me off are the people who regurgitate opinions from Meltzer and reddit who call this guy "the best wrestler in the world ever", which he clearly isn't on any metric: talking, drawing money, physical prowess, size, physique, match quality (which is albeit more subjective), and overall presentation. There are SO many people who trounce Kenny in any one, or multiple, of those above metrics.

I would have loved to wrestle for Jim.

Amen, no cheese on that burger!

🔥Chaos🔥

I got an idea. Let's switch it. Give the men no more than 2 mins of in-ring time. The bell rings, the ref says "go home". The women get their more than 10 minutes time. I don't give a fuck anymore. Fuck it! I just want to see Shayna

People really need to separate WWE from a wrestling show. It would make way more sense if you do that. WWE Raw and Smackdown are TV SHOWS. They're sold as tv shows, and celebrated as TV shows, hence the "new season" nonsense. "Longest episodic tv show ever!" Once you can separate the two, one should be able to see what to do to make a Wrestling Show, instead of recreating the TV show.

I don't watch much anymore, but I'm betting the reason wrestlers doing poses is a source of annoyance is because these gestures aren't in line with what they're trying to portray. Either that, or the wrestlers are just so unconvincing these days.

I miss blading in WWE. I also think its so dumb how they can only hit their opponents with a chair in the back. Anytime they swing for the head, you know a reversal is coming. Why can't they bring blade jobs back and get special made chairs that are made out of a super lightweight metal that has a good sound to it when hitting someone? That way they can go back to doing chair shots to the head, concussion free, and make matches look believable again.