Ha ha. Good one ! I thought he couldn’t be CEO of WWE because his ex-wife offered to hire him full-time at Hogans Beach Shop. 🏖. Lol

Hulk said he was invited to wrestle Ric Flair for his final match, but having Flair go over ‘didn’t work for him brother’

"Brother, I would take the job if I didn't have to deal with all those [explicit deleted]."

Hahahha

Maybe Vince was looking for weekend hours at the Surf Shop?

Been waiting all day to get Jim's take on this. 👍

every time lol

Same!!!!!

Russo

Been checking KZfaq every since there was no bonus breaking news on the Drive-Thru.

Well he'd have to hire Sean Oliver of Kayfabe Comnentaries, and film it at his front porch!

let's get him on the experience and let jim and brian do the interview

Dude he wouldn’t ever break kayfabe. He’s the living embodiment of it.

I heard something about a book that was being worked on. That would hit the best seller list in record time, if it were true.

@@AmateurBarbarian He shot kayfabe in the head.

I was thinking the same... I figured he would have to die of old age in 20 years or so before he leaves that job..

@@katty3116 I was sorta expecting that too from him

The old Vince would have brought back a forgotten diva and worked it into a storyline 😂

At first it was, until I thought about how pretty much all his (from his era/glory days) major stars are retired. Wrestling peaked a long time ago when Vince was on top. With the way he handled the product recently, his passion and fire wasn’t there anymore. His time been up.

You and me both

@@SimplyChaotic98 Jealousy isnt a good look fella

What should come out we dont suspekt, hes living the Trump Lifestyle of young dependent biatches,, only with his own money.

Yeah considering what Vince is like, even these accusations on their own wouldn't do it. I feel like someone has found something REALLY nasty along the way.

I'm feeling that too.

Stories are coming out about how Vince sexually harassed Ashley Massaro and then released and blackballed her when she rejected his advances. She then went on to take her own life. That’s a pretty terrible story.

The Wall Street Journal is hinting that there is more. The announcement was a classic news dump -- minutes after the NYSE closed. He jumped before he was pushed. As was said elsewhere, Vince screwed Vince.

Unfortunately that company mentality i.e. going public cost Vince his company. In a decade, Khan will own the company by default.

@@shindean Jim and Dutch because they agree on most things even if the approach is different

It's much closer to an entertainment company than a wrestling company. Has been for decades

And that Vince would have to be killed Terminator 2 style, to get him out of power.

@@segagenesis7708 I remember back when I was kept being told by "insiders" and "wrestling experts" that Vince would NEVER step down as CEO. And later after being proven wrong (since marks can't be experts especially if they are wrestlers or managers), how Vince would NEVER retire & leave WWE. That was like a whole 2 weeks ago. I was also told how Vince would NEVER spend all that company & personal money to cover criminal acts because all of them knew Vince so well...knew him PERSONALLY, pal... and we saw how that turned out too. Never listen to low-tier stooges with no pull or stroke.

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? damn dude, keep grinding that axe lol

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? wtf 🤣 this dude you having a bad day or something

@@TheCaptainSlappy If they never went public he would have never stepped down.

He has the best off the cuff metaphors ever. They land so hard. One after another. He could fill a book with them.

Actually that was an analogy. He has great metaphors too though.

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? you didn't need to say this under every comment

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? Put the drugs down son. They're not helping you.

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? It's because your mother was the casting director, and you like Star Trek.

BOX

Chris Benoit

…that being said, you can’t dodge criminal charges by paying off a victim, per se.

@@mrbadguysan You technically can't, it won't prevent a criminal charge. But it WILL destroy the victim in the eyes of any reasonable jury.

This is mostly correct. "Harassment" has a million different meanings to a million different people. Quid pro quo sexual harassment is unlawful under Title VII, but is not necessarily a criminal act. What I would be looking for here as a prosecutor is who was paid off and with whose money they were paid off with. With the current allegations, the closest thing to an indictable offense I could reasonably imagine is embezzlement, but based on what I've read that would be a long shot. The next question is what else is in the pipeline and will *that* suggest an indictable offense.

Don’t forget if the misconduct is also financial in nature (adjusting salaries), the SEC could stick their nose in it, depending on severity in their eyes. Then the misconduct could cross that line

It's more than misconduct there's rape allegations come to light aswell

Been alot of these lately, and I'm sure this won't be the last.

Idk about that

Nah. When all the real news comes out that's when we'll be waiting. This is just the start.

Vince Russo’s passing will be the most anticipated. Cornett will absolutely light up the internet.

It’s not

Something tells me Vince will be on FaceTime with Stephanie, 24/7. I grew up watching Vince and Jessie Ventura on Saturday morning Superstars in the 1980’s. Then Vince, macho man, and rob Bartlett on Raw when it first took the place of Primetime Wrestling in early 1993.

His kids are there, even after his death his presence won't be gone.

@@joemoore3127 lol that facetime thing is so true. im in the same boat as you although i think stephanie will be fine taking over control....

Before Vince was the boss, he was on air as an announcer, so He's been a constant Your whole life.

Nice, I'm the same, and have been a wrestling fan since early '84. It does seem surreal

It would be like the scene from 300. TK kicking Vince into the pit yelling SPARTAAAA

Yea that way Vince can make aew worse than it already fucking is..let's all hope Vince is really retired the mf can't book and is delusional/senile

@@davidstephan5116 Little guy couldn't even make 77 year old Vince flinch

What's Mince VcMahon doing in the Impact zone?

I kinda wanted to see the attitude era Vince come out and cut a promo on all the women he paid to keep their mouths shut,then aired a highlight real montage of all the divas he got to enjoy 😂

Ugh

Oo

Ok

I want him to live longer then russo, just so we can hear that he got arrested for pissing on his grave like he wants to do

At least long enough to take a leak on Russo's tombstone.

It would be a better gimmick for Seth too 😜

@@DP-um1ck Imagine Seth scatting lol

That hit song he had was atrocious. I hope he was a lot better than that.

And Cornette with Wendy's! 🤣🤣

Ryan George as The Adstronaut.

One of the top videos. The bobby eaton passing to me was the most anticipated.

Holy shit, it’s the most consistent, prolific and dedicated man on KZfaq.

@@LouisAnkers97 I'm backkk full time subscribe hit the 🔔 turn on alll notifications!

No, that would be the Selena video on pornhub

I don't see that happening...then Jim would have to put pants on to do the podcast 😂

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the investigation was going to look into all the past incidents and maybe even criminal activity which alot of former wrestlers mention in podcasts and interviews....

@@jackstraw4222 either receipts or just a lot of hearsey by guys and gals that got beef

Totally agree. Vince will lay low to see what the media may or may not have against him. But since he has “retired” all the heat comes down on him instead of WWE and the stock price and television deals remain in tact. Then a few months later after a year or so of WWE paying homage to Vince, he jumps back on the WWE ship. I mean are we supposed to believe that Stephanie is happy to take on an even more stressful job than the one she walked away from just weeks ago? There are already those in WWE that don’t believe the retirement is “permanent”.

@@darrylroot9322 in wrestling no one ever stays retired, Vince won't be the exception

The board has no power over him. Loads of BS is going to be coming out, so he "retired" and will run things by proxy.

What Vince did, allegedly, was embezzle millions of company dollars to fund hush money payments. The SEC and DOJ are going to come calling soon.

Sounds about right!

HHH will just push more Vanilla Midgets to the forefront like he did in black & gold NXT which will be garbage ….

Max Durpie is "possibly" free no rumors going on he'll be L.A Knight again

@bARRY lARRY Only Marks use the word “Marks”

@bARRY lARRY To many GayEW, emo, self harming fans on here now. Just want to see grown men cut themselves in barbed wire and what not.

He will build stars than book himself in a match to beat him

He will still make appearances. Don't think for a second his music won't hit for some reason around next Wrestlemania time when it's cooled off a bit.

Yeah he’s been going down on interns non stop for 40 years lol

@@bigroaststyrone8135 i reckon the other way around. the interns being the ones going down......and then getting few bucks to keep mouth shut (after opening it)

Sean Oliver is already on it

@@markdickins1976 Vince would save a fortune just hiring hookers.

The most significant he’s the Goat of the entertainment industry only Michael jackson can say he is on this mama level

He killed professional wrestling. Like Heyman said, he made wrestling and wrestlers dirty words. The king of sports entertainment yes but not even close with professional wrestling.

@@MidTennPews Yeah he's always been embarrassed to be involved in wrestling. And shrank the entire industry down to basically 1 relevant company.

@@MidTennPews Pro Wrestling might be in the same place as Elvis rn without Vince, before Vince saved it wrestling was a ship that was going nowhere fast, never forget that.

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? Saying John Cena cant wrestle in 2022 is like saying the boogeyman is real past the age of like 6. John Cena has proven this bullshit notion to be incorrect on multiple occasions.

Considering they only had 8k watching the buy in I'm gonna say you're probably right lol

Maybe he'll go visit the congo, let us hope

I thought he did, like 15 years ago😬

Even if he did he would of not sold it.

Yup

He obviously was pushed out the door once it was confirmed he sexually abused his employees

Trust me he will be back once all of this blows over.

@@TombstoneChris bullshit....whatever hit pieces are on the horizon have made him untouchable. If that board of directors, investors, or sponsors got the slightest wiff of vince being involved shit will hit the fan

I dont see him returning. The optics are ugly.

The only organic retirement Vince would ever have would be his funeral

@Seanus LOL agree, I think Cornette could sell salt water to the ocean

Totally agree. I think there was a meeting where Vince was told either retire on your own or be retired by them.

It was me Austin *"Aww son of a bitch"*

He'd throw himself off Titan Towers first

@@daleharris3809 now thats best for business 😂

Present him as Vince Jackson, the long lost third Young Buck who tries to teach his little brothers how to be alpha.

@@Fantasyremix you've got no chance.... No chance in hell You've got no chance No chance hell 😂

Lol emphasis on "internal"...and "intern"

The "NO CHANCE" Podcast? 😎

@@DP-um1ck from Stamford to Louisville, your hosts, Vincent ‘Kan’t keep his dick in his pants’ McMahon and Jim ‘I might have anger management issues’ Cornette

For VINCE MCMAHON to step down............. it’s bad.

The thing about allegations are, when the first one hits hundreds more come, but that doesn't mean all of them are real. It's either grifters who are looking for their 5 minutes or people with a bone to pick. Vince probably stepped down to avoid actual damage to the company because companies don't care if the allegations are valid or not, if it exists you become a pariah

@@segagenesis7708 His dick did what WCW and the Federal government could not.

He's 77 years old, he looks 95. The guy messed up with the hush money but this whole crime spree gossip is embarrassing. I'm sure he read the proper rooms and decided that his company would be better off without him on the front lines at this point. He's probably booking from his home office, hoping Linda doesn't want to talk hahahaha.

@@theecharmingbilly Except trying to do so for a publicly traded company after he’s told his shareholders that he’s retired from all duties, is illegal

That's the first thought that went through my mind

If he can get past year 1 he'll make it ! & He should be pushing to get to 80.

@@davidmurray6949 What does he do to past the time?

Vince will STILL and ALWAYS have a hand in the company until he is no longer breathing. He will be just fine. Hell, I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he started some other business venture (not a wrestling promotion).

@@Mrderful I hope that you are right

Would Vince still become a billionaire if WWE doesn’t go public?

@@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother Probably not, he pretty much needed to for that to happen.

Why if it made them more money & a bigger company globally? WWE is Literally a Billion dollar company now. I really do not understand the logic the IWC has with statements like “they shouldn’t of went public” & “wwe is tanking” when it’s been more successful then ever

@@SuperbNProsper The Chinese empire sure was big in 1900.

Golden age? You haven't been paying attention

@@kevindouglas5333 I mean the reality is for alot of folks the attitude era WAS the golden era of wrestling bro

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? and yet John Cena can draw more money and get more attention than every single one of those supposed guys that were buried

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? You make Russo not going back sound like a bad thing lol. Maybe if he didn't burn his bridge with WWE and just jump to WCW without telling Vince, they'd bring him back.

The Attitude Era was the end of the golden age. Once he owned WCW the product changed very quickly. The last 20 years has been like watching Law & Order reruns.

¿Qué? But "Le Fou" means Tne Fool....?

Paul Bishop?

Triple H doesn't discuss his family background much, but I suspect he's legit aristocracy. Lévesque is a very uncommon surname whose spelling looks Medieval or even Dark. Having read Bob Holly's book, which wasn't really good, he seemed to present Triple H as running the company like some feudal lord. The ê absorbs the -s, like août -> aoust- August.

Preserve? I've known many a Levesque from New England area. The s was always silent.

Remember this is Brian who said "ah-soo-kuh" for Asuka until recently. Don't get me started on how he says ruin (roon lol) or museum (museeeem)

THANK YOU. Independent board members are an extremely important anti corruption tool

@@MurdocIsASaint to an extent

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? Cena was hell of a wrestler, and yeah a sinking ship that makes billions and sells out most Arenas

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? WTH does that have to do with the comment?!

The WWE is structured in a way that nearly all the voting stock in the company is in the hands of insiders. The board of directors isn't really independent. But while control of the company is held by a handful people with the voting stock, they still have to follow all the ethical and business rules of a public corportion.

Johnny Ace, since he was the first to be guillotined

Regulators like the SEC want independent directors.

Truth. It’s all about the suspension of disbelief.

People have known it was worked forever. Bruno Sammartino, Buddy Rogers, Ole Anderson, and those types might make people second guess that since they worked a certain way. I refuse to believe anyone thought Flair was legitimate. He bumped way too much against people like Mike Von Erich and for many others. I didn't "know" wrestling was worked when I was small. I did think Flair was the most obviously fake one I saw when I was even in the 1st grade. He wrestled like a Looney Tunes character or something out of the Three Stooges. I could buy though that muscleheads would punch, kick, throw, or bodyslam you, which was 90% the case in WWF matches. Same was true in a lot of 80s action flicks

Also McMahon kept kayfabe in 1985. He exposed it was worked in 1989. Though Cornette's point is short-sighted, as typical of insiders. How many wrestling fans were reading daily papers that day like the WSJ, NYT, Boston Globe? It wasn't some big headline when McMahon said it was worked. NWA business had been falling for years by then. What explains why Florida or GCW under Anderson went under? Anderson fired Cornette for booking a dog show birthday party with heels having a cake fight. Something like that. That was in 1981. It's no less or more campy than a silly Smackdown segment. NWA was an illegal cartel and contracting badly by the 80s. Their fall was a "Calm before the Storm" case. Since these NWA promoters became marks for their own product, they never cared to ask themselves why a heel as traveling champion should continue into the mid-80s. As such, they couldn't create new stars.

My grandma never told me it was fake, I’m not sure if she knew or not. But what she did do was watch it with me. Watching all those Smackdown episodes with her is a memory I’ll never forget

Unless you're watching a real sport, everything on TV is fake. Dont see why wrestling gets such a bad deal

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You and me both Fella 🍿

So many people are missing this aspect of it. Especially at that time between 2000-2010 when they was no other wrestling company to go to. He bullied women into these hookups with career threats.

@@jamieisradical3137 Yeah it was all during the "diva" era. Back when women were hired because of the way they looked (and probably what they were willing to do). It's basically the casting couch but for wrestling. It's sad. I always say if you want to be a womanizer then just don't get married and don't be a "grapist"! Nobody has anything bad to say about Derek Jeter and Joe Nameth. They did their thing but they were single when they did it and they weren't coercing any of the girls they were with. It's just that simple. Vince just lost his ever-loving mind on a power trip. It's some sociopath shit.

@@jamieisradical3137 Not me Jamie, you are spot on. Closer to 20 years but yeah, Vince's love of power and control, his jedi mind trick of convincing people to do things they wouldn't do. It was only a matter of time.

@@jamieisradical3137 Jim is getting hung up on the payoff aspect of this, and has never shown a firm understanding of the nuance of power abuse within work relations, the complexities of sexual trauma, the sheer intimidation of taking on Vince McMahon, and how all of this can affect a woman’s family and livelihood. This gets very complicated.

Its the implication. Its just rape with extra steps.

The State will never go after McMahon if the victim refuses to testify. She's not required to cooperate with the State.

@@vannavanity1195 In this case, yes. Any crime that VKM committed was probably fraud against the shareholders. But Jim asked a general question about being paid to not testify in a criminal proceeding.

@@ReverendRichardSeeland568209 Seemed like what he was saying is an NDA or a payoff nullifies the State's ability to press charges. That was never true, even if, in practice, it would have discredited any complainant in the 80s and even the 90s, and still so but less in the aughts. The last few years, it would be harder for the State to do that though for political reasons, even if sex crimes have always been politicized

@@vannavanity1195 If he said that, he was wrong. Some of the women who received NDAs from Harvey Weinstein ended up testifying against him in his criminal trial. You can't pay someone to refrain from testifying against you in a criminal trial. Otherwise, the Mafia would just pay all their potential witnesses off.

@@ReverendRichardSeeland568209 of course. Honestly, I kind of cringed when he said that. Like, "Wow, you still think this is the 80s when guys rarely got prosecuted for date raping girls." With all due respect, his wrestling views tend to parallel his mentality. I was surprised just because he's a liberal and seems to read mainstream press. It's the kind of statement that would get Marjorie Taylor Greene in trouble - not that Cornette was malicious or anything. I was just surprised he seemed to think that. Last pushed back on him and seemed to be cringing himself

I’m only two years behind you in that regard. Thought I would die before I EVER saw Vince step down.

Haha same, around 1988 for me too. Although I thought Vince was just a commentator and Jack Tunney was the boss.

89 for me. Started when the MegaPowers exploded

@@segagenesis7708 🤣🤣 Agreed!

@@garrymorgan2341 Didn't we all 🤣🤣

Yes they can, pretty much every republican in office has a sex scandle, assault, or payoff under their belt... and Vincie poo is a big pal of most of them and Linda has been sucking the orange hot dog for years now.

Even if the audience is okay with Vince's transgressions all those corporate sponsors and the tv networks won't tolerate it. And I would say that's where the pressure for Vince to step down ultimately manifested.

IF VINNY MAC CAN'T A BILLIONAIRE THAN NO1 CAN

It's more because WWE is a publicly traded company.

Wrestling podcasts > women in bikinis??? Wtf is wrong with you

No he doesn't. He's completely off the board of directors, the most he can do is offer an opinion.

Exactly Bro so people need to pump the brakes a little bit …. 💯

Vince is done out finished never to be heard from again .... WWE terminated his power just like I predicted all along.