Jim Cornette Reviews Dark Side Of The Ring's Ultimate Warrior Episode

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3 жыл бұрын

From Episode 383 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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@smallcd
@smallcd 3 жыл бұрын
"The Self- Destrucity of The Ultimate Warrior."
@dreday5880
@dreday5880 3 жыл бұрын
@Steve A 🤣🤣🤣 To me it always sounded more like Hole Kogan
@itsworsethanthat526
@itsworsethanthat526 3 жыл бұрын
Hull Kogan
@21macca21
@21macca21 3 жыл бұрын
Hawkogan
@steveo10861
@steveo10861 3 жыл бұрын
Hoke ogan
@bradcarver8127
@bradcarver8127 3 жыл бұрын
Did you guys like the two part Krispin Wah episode last season?
@ustillsuckbryan6027
@ustillsuckbryan6027 3 жыл бұрын
Best line: JR "What the f** is Destrucity" had me dying laughing
@sc30002001
@sc30002001 3 жыл бұрын
The letters had meaning D is for somethng E is for something and so on Jim was like What the Fuck!!!!
@michaelkobebryant2514
@michaelkobebryant2514 3 жыл бұрын
That was the funniest thing I heard JR said and he said some pretty hilarious stuff
@benzion8885
@benzion8885 3 жыл бұрын
Destiny meets electricity
@chadlieb2437
@chadlieb2437 3 жыл бұрын
Best line of the series thus far
@mykoniichistorychannel
@mykoniichistorychannel 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Ross is hilarious when he's candid. You can tell he's surly AF, and it's comedy.
@charliefromstarkvillemissi1852
@charliefromstarkvillemissi1852 3 жыл бұрын
“I know you’re not supposed to speak ill of the dead, but I’m going to speak ill of the Ultimate Warrior because he was a f-king CLOWN.” - Jim Cornette
@LookAtWow
@LookAtWow 3 жыл бұрын
Lord forbide something happens to me but if it does I want Jim Cornette to eulogize me by saying these exact words, throwing a few f-bombs and then tossing his memo notes as he leaves in a huff
@IAWIA5
@IAWIA5 2 жыл бұрын
Love him or hate him, Jim Cornette is fucking hilarious 😂
@wurblewurble
@wurblewurble 2 жыл бұрын
@@LookAtWow "I thought this was a funeral, not some outlaw mud show!" ((Cornette face)) "Thank you, fuck you, goodbye!"
@garyhen1707
@garyhen1707 2 жыл бұрын
I full on agree here!
@MsDboyy
@MsDboyy 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏 lmao 😂
@Ted_Bell
@Ted_Bell 3 жыл бұрын
Funny what warrior said about Heenan considering Heenan outlived him.
@mykoniichistorychannel
@mykoniichistorychannel 3 жыл бұрын
My goodness, you're right.
@piperar2014
@piperar2014 3 жыл бұрын
That, and people liked and respected Heenan.
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 3 жыл бұрын
Heenan got the last laugh... 👍🏿👍🏿 I Liked Jim Warrior.. but after years of studying this dude he should have been a heel cause he's a natural heel for real and could have made millions from it..
@Musiclover19
@Musiclover19 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenrickeason He definitely wouldn’t have made millions as a heel the way he did as a top face. Top heels almost NEVER make anywhere near the kind of money a top face does, especially back than, when the WWF was primarily viewed by kids. Because kids wanted to spend all of their/parents’ money on their toys, shirts and everything else of their favorite heroes, NOT their favorite villains. Speaking as a child back than who had everything Hulk Hogan at one point from action figures to lunchboxes and backpacks, I think I know what I’m talking about here. I’m pretty sure Warrior knew that too, hence why he rejected the idea HIMSELF when Vince wanted to turn him heel around 1992 (the whole storyline of who signed with Mr. Perfect from Summerslam 92).
@walsh9080
@walsh9080 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenrickeason I get where you're coming from but imo nah, he was saying this stuff in the 2000s. The 2000s already had an awesome conservative themed heel gimmick John Bradshaw Layfield; except JBL was real life millionaire, published books on the stock market and was a pundit for Fox. AKA say what you want about him but he wasn't a total dumbass like Warrior and had a real life background that made the gimmick work better. Lastly, JBL was a dope promo, Warrior was barely coherent. He would've just been a racist, homophobic and sexist version of JBL.
@JimReuterskiold
@JimReuterskiold 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Ross rarely buries anyone in public, and he took a huge dump on Warrior as a worker and as a human being.
@Adrian21
@Adrian21 3 жыл бұрын
And that speaks volumes
@tharealest8190
@tharealest8190 3 жыл бұрын
But yet he doesn’t have the balls to call out Vince McMahon when there’s countless stories of Vince treating jr like dogshit
@Adrian21
@Adrian21 3 жыл бұрын
@@tharealest8190 JR actually rarely speaks ill of anybody which says a lot the Warrior if he buried him publicly especially considering the Warrior died. As for Vince he's kind of a mixed bag. There are times when he's great to people and there's times when he times where he treats them like shit.
@tharealest8190
@tharealest8190 3 жыл бұрын
@@Adrian21 no Vince used to DOG jr ass out you really need to go look at the videos where it’s recounted how Vince used to call jr deputy dog and LAUGH at his Bell’s palsy . Jr is a COWARD for talking shit about warrior but not calling out Vince that was abusing his scary ass
@fatalsniper3413
@fatalsniper3413 3 жыл бұрын
If JR is such an ambassador for morality why doesn't he criticize Austin for beating up multiple significant others?
@HellNation
@HellNation 3 жыл бұрын
I think this video is the actual Dark Side Of The Ring Episode on Warrior
@anasantiago3581
@anasantiago3581 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
Pin this comment
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
Well played 🤣
@tallking7777
@tallking7777 3 жыл бұрын
Real shit man he is burying the ultimate warrior. way more in this video. he went easy on him. on the dark side of the ring episode.
@Shabbado55
@Shabbado55 3 жыл бұрын
Jim needs to find a deal to produce/host his own set of documentaries!
@williamholton8164
@williamholton8164 3 жыл бұрын
Damn if warrior could've cut promos like these quotes in the ring he'd have been the biggest heel of all time
@natmason5528
@natmason5528 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Wifey Warrior went and scrubbed the posts so she could tell us how "great but misunderstood" he was.🙄
@CarlosMedina-vj7ot
@CarlosMedina-vj7ot 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@postersandstuff
@postersandstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMedina-vj7ot If anyone is white washed its Bruce Lee : terrible temper , numerous affairs. But Linda will never tell the truth cuz BL = $$$
@andrewriley9821
@andrewriley9821 2 жыл бұрын
But he was misunderstood - we all underestimated just what a giant a**hat he was.
@nice2008c
@nice2008c 3 жыл бұрын
Neither A&E nor Dark Side mentioned how the Renegade was brought in and ruined.
@sc30002001
@sc30002001 3 жыл бұрын
He's the reason why people thought warrior died in the 90s they look identical.
@crissy4346
@crissy4346 3 жыл бұрын
@@sc30002001 no they didn't look alike. I mean Renegade was an obvious knock off, but not a twin.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
They skipped Warrior whole WCW run. He needed 2 parts like Pillman. Too much to fit in that little 45 mins
@freddiejohnson6137
@freddiejohnson6137 3 жыл бұрын
@@sc30002001 they didn't look anything alike, WCW just used him because they were attempting to get him to sign in 95 and kept hinting at an ultimate surprise but by the sounds of it they were doing that before actually talking to him so they found someone to dress up like him and he debuted in a way to try and make people think it was him. But when you actually looked at him you could tell they didn't look anything alike.
@stewwart6060
@stewwart6060 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone thought he died and Renegade was replacing him or he didn’t die and Renegade was him
@TheAnarkiwi
@TheAnarkiwi 3 жыл бұрын
C'mon Brian. Jake was off his head in 1991. He didn't know where he was let alone what the plans were.
@kingkold
@kingkold 3 жыл бұрын
True , but he could have refreshed his memory .
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 3 жыл бұрын
Jake still has a very good memory. In fact he always has, which is probably why he is still alive. The guy has huge substance resistance
@kelman727
@kelman727 3 жыл бұрын
@@drunkensailor112 If he has such a good memory why did he think he was wrestling for Warrior’s belt 7 months after he’d already dropped it...?
@TheAnarkiwi
@TheAnarkiwi 3 жыл бұрын
@@drunkensailor112 So he is just full of shit then? lol I was trying to save face on his behalf
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 3 жыл бұрын
Jake probably lied. But Warrior might have gotten the belt back at some point, if he had stayed in WWF after Summerslam 91, who knows. I remember speculations about plans of Warrior becoming champion after Summerslam 92, and around Summerslam 96 too
@esmith407
@esmith407 3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t know if she’s out there booking any hot finishes” got me so good. Just the thought of Dana Warrior knowing to suggest anything other than “how about he runs to the ring really fast” is hilarious
@herzkine
@herzkine 2 жыл бұрын
...why is that so? We barely know her. You think every woman is likeminded with their man?
@shaun5497
@shaun5497 Жыл бұрын
Wwe still put him in the HOF with all the shit he said? Why have someone like that on your program? Terry didn’t go this hard and wwe dropped him quick. Fuq the warrior!
@zenmastakilla
@zenmastakilla Жыл бұрын
@@herzkine I bet you're fun to be around.
@JustinSmith-CheeseBear
@JustinSmith-CheeseBear Жыл бұрын
Agreed. "Hot Finishes" kills me every time.
@JustinSmith-CheeseBear
@JustinSmith-CheeseBear Жыл бұрын
@@zenmastakilla now that was a Hot Finish.
@thekidfromiowa
@thekidfromiowa 3 жыл бұрын
The Heenan rant was unreal. Saying that about an overwhelmingly loved figure in the business. What did he do to you?
@gordonirvine726
@gordonirvine726 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Heenan shat on Woya in the Self Destruction DVD.
@RandolfLycan
@RandolfLycan 2 жыл бұрын
Heenan rightfully criticized Warrior. That's what was apparently so horrible. And how ironic that Bobby Heenan still outlived this POS by 3 years.
@andrewriley9821
@andrewriley9821 2 жыл бұрын
@@gordonirvine726 But also to be fair Warrior did mess up Heenan's neck more and Heenan was also relaying what other guys, notably Andre, had said about working with Warrior not just saying his own opinion. I've seen that story about Andre basically knocking Warrior out mid-match for working too stiff repeated by others (who obviously could have got it from Heenan in the first place will admit) but I have seen quotes of Andre's daughter saying he hated working with Warrior and really didn't like the guy and if Andre, generally talked about as one of the nicest guys ever, felt that it says a lot. Am pretty sure I read a quote about Warrior making fun of Heenan's appearance after the reconstructive surgery on his jaw so I mean for that and everything else Warrior ever said just no, he deserves whatever anyone has to say about him.
@Phicheee
@Phicheee 2 жыл бұрын
What unforgivable sins did Heenan commit against the Warrior? Well let's see... Bobby Heenan: - Had talent - Could work his ass off - Could cut an amazing, comprehensible promo - Was loved by almost everyone in the wrestling business - Was one of the smartest men to ever grace the wrestling business - Wasn't an asshole in real life (he only played one on TV) Am I missing anything?
@mctavish4496
@mctavish4496 Жыл бұрын
​@@Phicheee great comment. Bobby Heenan had more talent in his little finger than Warrior had in his whole body. Bobby Heenan forgot more about the wrestling business than Warrior ever knew. Warrior was also very stiff in the ring and genuinely hurt Bobby Heenan's neck, due to being careless, unsafe and uncaring about the person he was working with. It was great to hear the story about Andre stopping his nonsense when they were working house shows in the late 1980's though!!
@SonOfMuta
@SonOfMuta 3 жыл бұрын
"You're telling me Jake the Snake told untuths? Imagine that" 😂🤣
@rodneydangerfield7324
@rodneydangerfield7324 2 жыл бұрын
Snake so jealous of warrior.Pissed off he didn't get to make money off warriors fame..
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
The most important thing ever said about Jake will always be the immortal words of Austin 3:16. 🐍
@retepoteil
@retepoteil 3 жыл бұрын
I think dark side of the ring about warrior needed to be a 2 parter
@esmith407
@esmith407 3 жыл бұрын
It could easily be its own spin-off series
@RetroRuss
@RetroRuss 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. There was so many missing details like his WCW run and the whole Renegade thing.
@foleynj86
@foleynj86 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact same thing.
@donkindle5872
@donkindle5872 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100 percent!
@Jiren261
@Jiren261 3 жыл бұрын
Russell Brown I think Renegade could be its own episode
@Adrian21
@Adrian21 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly love it when Corny shoots on the Ultimate Warrior. Always entertaining.
@justinballard6634
@justinballard6634 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@2011americanman
@2011americanman 2 жыл бұрын
Jim’s a bitter loser who can’t take warrior accomplished more in 4 years then most in the business. Corny is a perfect name for Jim’s career lol.
@MarvelousErV
@MarvelousErV Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda shocked the warrior got inducted with all the race baggage?
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 Жыл бұрын
Often Corny just goes off on conservatives for no good reason but Warrior made many conservatives look bad in the 2000s. I would love to see Corny sit down with a Ben Shapiro or similar figures and actually discuss their differences vs Corny's rants about "Orange man bad and all conservatives or religious people"
@dantempol8555
@dantempol8555 Жыл бұрын
​@@mattm7798Shapiro was a two-bit writer for a right-wing blog and abandoned all of his "conservative values" to cash in and fleece the orange cult, which is not classically conservative in any way except for their fear of racial and gender equality. It's hilarious that you consider him some kind of legitimate conservative philosopher.
@TheHightower92
@TheHightower92 Жыл бұрын
For someone so fixated on "morality", Ultimate Warrior was awfully comfortable insulting people and taking pleasure in their suffering and misfortune
@distantandvague
@distantandvague 11 ай бұрын
All Republicans are awfully comfortable insulting people and taking pleasure in their suffering and misfortune, while spouting lies and nonsense.
@Poopmannn
@Poopmannn 10 ай бұрын
@@gretathanos1534yeah, why did all those people whose homes were underwater not simply pull up their bootstraps?
@jtboss8139
@jtboss8139 9 ай бұрын
​@Poopmannn their homes were COMEPLETE TRASH before. U wouldn't live there that's for sure. Filthy dirty and falling apart. They didn't fix or take care of anything. Sorry, but it's true. I know the truth is beyond offensive and can get u in alot of trouble these days, but yea it's truth. The hurricane gave alot of them new places when they got back and I was just there 5 years ago and if u could see what they have done in a short amount of time u would understand the frustration. They have trashed it all up again from BRAND NEW!!
@sierra----
@sierra---- 9 ай бұрын
@@gretathanos1534 you're a cracker, that's 100% true
@killboggins
@killboggins 8 ай бұрын
​@@jtboss8139sounds about white
@TheFriendlyWeirdo
@TheFriendlyWeirdo 3 жыл бұрын
I did expect a much more aggressive Dark Side of the Ring episode regarding the Warrior, but I still liked it.
@Madallen2002
@Madallen2002 3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I did a review of this episode on my channel. Even I was like really? This is what warriors other wife was so offended by. Warriors first wife seemed quite fair if you asked me
@crazyjim9380
@crazyjim9380 3 жыл бұрын
@@Madallen2002 Yeah, I will say when the first ex-wife gets involved, my natural thought is she is going to bury the guy eight ways from Tuesday and tell a lot of crazy stories to make herself seem more important but she actually humanizes him far more than I expected. The A&E one does a very slick job of spinning some of the controversial comments Warrior put out that Jim is covering here and does an overall more thorough job in telling a compelling story of his life and career.
@Madallen2002
@Madallen2002 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazyjim9380 yeah and who knows which ones that they missed as far as Jim's crazy right winged post. He also mocked drozs disability
@Aj6711
@Aj6711 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly I was expecting a hit piece like and it really wasn’t that much off from A&E
@herzkine
@herzkine 2 жыл бұрын
When your ex is bitter and berieseln you...bad...when she is over you , just states the real flaws why she had to leave...fair but bad kick in the nuts
@ZakH644
@ZakH644 2 жыл бұрын
Martin Luther King. “The paved road was easy to take a bump on” Jim is institutionalized by the wrestling business 😂
@chrisbarrettFilmstudio
@chrisbarrettFilmstudio Жыл бұрын
Best part of the whole Heenan v Warrior feud is the fact that Heenan outlived Warrior. Bobby should have pissed on his grave
@RetroRuss
@RetroRuss 3 жыл бұрын
Why'd they even bother having Bischoff on the show when there was zero mention of his brief WCW run?
@q.h.s5051
@q.h.s5051 3 жыл бұрын
Even Eric doesn’t wanna talk about that crap run
@theungreatkahli
@theungreatkahli 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking while watching that. I was wondering when were they gonna bring up his WCW run.
@SMDoktorPepper
@SMDoktorPepper 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely it was cut for time, but Dark Side does end up doing an uncut version with commentary later.
@dkupke
@dkupke 3 жыл бұрын
I recall in the late 90’s or early 2000’s seeing on Warrior’s website that he was offering to make personalized workout instruction tapes, and not only was he charging an arm and a leg for it,,he also wanted you to send him bare chested pictures of yourself. So far as I ever found, only a (very) few people actually sent him money and never got their tapes. The guy was a carny grifter, so little wonder he found success in wrestling.
@EarlFaulk
@EarlFaulk Жыл бұрын
I remember that. It was overpriced and the whole barechested photo thing sounds like his gay desire coming out. Apparently his whacked out comic had male bondage scenes
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 Жыл бұрын
You can bet he was a closet gay
@dkupke
@dkupke Жыл бұрын
@@EarlFaulk he released a “special” Christmas issue that was just pinup art, no story. One such image was Santa, ko’d on the floor in his underwear, an empty bottle at his side while Warrior looms over him, yanking Santa’s breeches onto himself. The idea seems to have been that Santa is out of commission so Warrior has to fill in for him. The imagery makes it look like Warrior spiked Santa’s drink and had his way with him. But you know Warrior blamed the comic book’s failure on “the man” holding him back.
@e32b61
@e32b61 Жыл бұрын
@@dkupke Is that the one ComicTropes always had up on his wall? I always wondered what the hell that was.
@dkupke
@dkupke Жыл бұрын
@@e32b61 yep that’s the one
@ELECTRIKDOOM77
@ELECTRIKDOOM77 3 жыл бұрын
So this is the same WARRIOR that the WWE Hall of Fame hand's out a legacy award to someone that show's the same spirit and drive as him?? YEESH!!!!
@tigerbug69
@tigerbug69 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah its pretty messed up!
@SmithCommaBenjamin
@SmithCommaBenjamin 3 жыл бұрын
Even worse, the award's concept was originally supposed to be for behind the scenes employees of WWE, like seamstresses, producers, merch people, maybe even Kevin Dunn. That's what Warrior wanted the award to be. Instead, it became a fauxlanthropy award
@AntiHeroFett
@AntiHeroFett 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmithCommaBenjamin Yeah, he said as much in his HOF speech regarding all the people behind the scenes that make the show run, who never get recognized by the public. Ofc WWE being WWE, took that concept and turned the Warrior Award into an annual, high profile virtue signalling publicity stunt, where they can exploit the misfortune of courageous individuals just to garner good press.
@AntiHeroFett
@AntiHeroFett 3 жыл бұрын
@@pisto30 I think HHH and Stephanie founding Connor's Cure as an organization for pediatric cancer research in honor of his memory was an appropriate endeavor and one of the more sincere things to materialize from the Warrior Award. I'm all for either renaming the Award or refocusing it to what Helwig suggested it should have originally been. Personally, I'd prefer they not rename it after Connor only because it always felt like soulless, exploitative, corporate grandstanding in the name of good public relations. Connor deserves better than that, and his foundation honors his struggle and legacy every day by helping sick children in need.
@shadycnetwork
@shadycnetwork 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerbug69 would you rather it be the Jake Roberts stuff it up your nose award? Or the don't get in the car with Jimmy Snuka award?
@jimhurst82
@jimhurst82 3 жыл бұрын
You could tell his first wife really loved him and was crushed when she found he was cheating on her. I felt bad for her. She did a great job humanizing Warrior.
@Juggalo42240
@Juggalo42240 Жыл бұрын
Highly agree. I think he honestly needed that after all the shitting on him all the time... It's nice to hear about the other side of a person with his "qualities"
@hahajones
@hahajones 6 ай бұрын
Funny how he lambasted MLK Jr. for being an adulterer, and yet he was the same, many times over, and ended up with a woman who seemed to not love him at all, and made him more miserable, crazy and cruel…
@amrey3628
@amrey3628 2 ай бұрын
​@@hahajonesI'm still waiting for those photos, recorded calls, fingerprints, DNA evidence, illegitimate children (you know actual PROOF) that is released from the FBI other than just "trust us, we know" about Dr. King. A racist cross dresser was the head of that agency & would have put those things forward, immediately, if it could have stymied any movement Dr. King had in those days. Idc how many Anglo Americans try to repeat that talking point with nothing more than the hearsay of what the racist, corrupt FBI said decades ago. I believe what I see, especially when it's a figurehead as renowned and powerful as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was and still is to this day. They were literally were spying on that man & had the federal government behind them & they've not shred one bit of evidence to support those claims.
@kylewheeler4550
@kylewheeler4550 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god Jim buried Warrior so deep he hit the center of the earth 😂😂😂
@susan-meaaz4879
@susan-meaaz4879 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think that the dark side episode really buried the ultimate warrior. There were guys in the business who told their side of it, but his ex-wife didn't really go out of her way to bury him. Overall I would argue that the dark side episode was a little more positive, because it portrayed a more full three-dimensional human being.
@randolphdefreese7874
@randolphdefreese7874 3 жыл бұрын
no they didnt,it was almost the same as the a & e show.if they wanted to beat him they would have put in the racial stuff.
@packpock4369
@packpock4369 3 жыл бұрын
He's dead! We all know how he was. But at the end he made peace. Just a being a father.
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 3 жыл бұрын
@@packpock4369 he was still a homophobic racist when he died
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 3 жыл бұрын
@@packpock4369 An asshole is an asshole whether they're alive or dead.
@mr.wallstreet718
@mr.wallstreet718 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 200%
@TheRealAb216
@TheRealAb216 3 жыл бұрын
It was definitely his family that scrubbed his anti gay stuff from the web so they can make money from his name.
@Nick_Barone
@Nick_Barone 3 жыл бұрын
And Dana blaming talk radio for his thoughts and acting like she was ashamed of his speech
@takerdust
@takerdust 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick_Barone why are people automatically believing Warrior over the wife? He wasn't exactly an honest person. She could have been some moderate church going conservative, and he fell into the deep political stuff on his own?
@rayclam8079
@rayclam8079 3 жыл бұрын
Homophillia is weird
@rayclam8079
@rayclam8079 3 жыл бұрын
In an era of homophilla, everything seems like homophobia.
@TheRealAb216
@TheRealAb216 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayclam8079 do you even know what the word homophillia means ? or that its hasn't been used since the 60s?
@thegrimharvest
@thegrimharvest 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic art by Travis once again. Jim's look of utter confusion absolutely nailed it. I remember reading the first Warrior comic book...or trying to, anyways, and just being absolutely baffled by it.
@hulksmash8159
@hulksmash8159 2 жыл бұрын
If you think that's fantastic art you must be a right wing nut.
@thegrimharvest
@thegrimharvest 2 жыл бұрын
@@hulksmash8159 Nailed it in one. Am I that transparent?
@mctavish4496
@mctavish4496 Жыл бұрын
​@@thegrimharvest I knew that there would be one person who read his comic book. I didn't really believe it to be honest. Until now. 😂😂👍👍
@thegrimharvest
@thegrimharvest Жыл бұрын
@@mctavish4496 In my defense, I was a teenage comic nerd, and I think it (the 1st issue) came free with my sister's subscription to whatever the WWF magazine was called back then. It was the epitome of 90s comic art style. It looked cool as all get out, but reading it was another thing entirely. Didn't make a lick of sense. I remember I was genuinely curious about what the story would be about. So, not knowing I was opening a tome of madness, I picked it up, began reading...and im not sure if I even finished the entire issue. It was just, I dunno, incomprehensible. Maybe it all made sense in Warrior's mind somehow but it definitely flew over my head. Now I'm genuinely wondering if I am the only one who tried to read it. And also strangely tempted to see if I could dig it up from my old comic collection to try reading it again, just to see if it's still as out there as I remember it.
@brigidmadden5577
@brigidmadden5577 Жыл бұрын
I remember comic reviewer Linkara ranking it as one of the worst comics he read for his show and saying that maybe he needed to get “Folked” to understand it
@dwlc4288
@dwlc4288 3 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere years ago that Warrior's brother posted online, that the only reason why Jim went back to the WWE was to save his marriage with Dana. His brother said that Warrior was in financial trouble and Dana was ready to divorce.
@tommyfraz.
@tommyfraz. 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting info. JR talks about during the HoF induction, it was all smiles and hugs, but the Self Destruction dvd hung a dark cloud over that weekend. That makes more sense, he wasn’t over anything but showed up for a payday and save his marriage.
@savharris5702
@savharris5702 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to listen to that shit about Heenan ...Shit is borderline unforgivable 🤷🏽‍♂️
@manolisanastasiou6393
@manolisanastasiou6393 3 жыл бұрын
depends how much a guy hates some1 who theyve known personally #s#it appens lol pardon the pun
@savharris5702
@savharris5702 3 жыл бұрын
@@manolisanastasiou6393 Man fuck all that, my boy...
@postersandstuff
@postersandstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@savharris5702 I can still watch UWs matches and be entertained , just like I can watch Radar on MASH even though the cast had issues with him behind scenes
@savharris5702
@savharris5702 3 жыл бұрын
@@postersandstuff Me too... What's that gotta do with my disgust tho?
@dcoldestjenkins5868
@dcoldestjenkins5868 3 жыл бұрын
After listening to this bs, I'm ashamed to have been an Ultimate Warrior fan as a Black man. I wish he would've had the privilege of crossing a prime New Jack back in the day. Smh Fu-- Ultimate Warrior
@chrissawyer1484
@chrissawyer1484 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if the words that Warrior wrote about Heenan were before or after that self destruction DVD. (For the record, I met Bobby after the cancer had taken his voice. He treated my older brother like they had been best friends his whole life. That is still the best memory I have of that weekend.)
@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754
@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754 3 жыл бұрын
He will be forever missed by this humanoid ham & egger
@topupmusicmanagement1695
@topupmusicmanagement1695 3 жыл бұрын
I think he did a shoot for RF before the DVD when he was in good health. Absolutely killed the warrior and numerous others like Bischoff and Russo
@wickerman26
@wickerman26 3 жыл бұрын
It was after the DVD. Everyone who participated became extremely hated resulting in Warrior lashing out big time. Vince, Hogan, DiBiase all got similar treatment as Bobby did. That DVD, like his wife mentioned, broke parts of him that were never fixed. It's been made pretty clear that Warrior had a lot of deep rooted issues with himself. He was troubled, defensive, mistrusting and angry. His issues don't excuse some of his behavior, but it helps make sense of his actions.
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 3 жыл бұрын
@@wickerman26 he was also a closet gay
@justafanofnerdculture7602
@justafanofnerdculture7602 3 жыл бұрын
@@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754 Same here!
@jdalldayallnite
@jdalldayallnite 3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t know if she’s booking any hot finishes” really made me crack up for some reason 😂
@David-nm4yc
@David-nm4yc 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 38. Warrior was the thing when I started watching wrestling. I thought he was shit way back then, when the gimmicks were probably what hooked me in, over ring craft. As an adult, I love his mental promos. His Wrestling skills were abysmal.
@trappenweisseguy27
@trappenweisseguy27 3 жыл бұрын
“The anabolic Warrior”, that’s a good one 🤣. I always called him “The Ultimate Steroid”.
@rayclam8079
@rayclam8079 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the wrestlers today taking steroids still look like highschool children
@CJBrowninLV
@CJBrowninLV 3 жыл бұрын
Bi Polar Warrior ... he sure flip flopped ... passive aggressive Warrior
@rashaddavis1801
@rashaddavis1801 3 жыл бұрын
When Zybysko was in the AWA, he used to call him that.
@trappenweisseguy27
@trappenweisseguy27 3 жыл бұрын
A significant number of steroid takers, up to 70% I’ve heard, either don’t even work out or don’t work out like a maniac. When you work out like a maniac, the roids take care of your body’s recuperation so you can work out sooner and harder.
@postersandstuff
@postersandstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@trappenweisseguy27 Luger said most wrestlers back then did roids
@kylorenkardashian79
@kylorenkardashian79 3 жыл бұрын
I like how both warrior documentaries showcased separate wifes
@bradpaton3927
@bradpaton3927 3 жыл бұрын
*wives
@kylorenkardashian79
@kylorenkardashian79 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradpaton3927 I'm a wrestling fan, give me a break. my autistic retardation should already be implied
@gordonirvine726
@gordonirvine726 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylorenkardashian79 best come back ever 👌👍😂👏😂😂👏👏😂😂👏👏
@kylorenkardashian79
@kylorenkardashian79 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordonirvine726 grammar Nazi was ready to send me to the gas chamber
@bittermin3148
@bittermin3148 3 жыл бұрын
They really should make a comedy biopic of Ultimate Warrior starring Ben Stiller. If you've seen the movie "Heavyweights" you know he would be perfect. Plus, he looks like him too.
@areguapiri
@areguapiri Жыл бұрын
Ben Stiller? Really? A privileged Hollywood jewish actor?
@kebby8251
@kebby8251 3 жыл бұрын
"Jake was in jail" the way Brian said this like it's just a normal thing got a hell of a laugh out of me
@2011americanman
@2011americanman 2 жыл бұрын
You can find better bodies at a local park then what Jake had.
@fernandoguajardo2750
@fernandoguajardo2750 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Iron Sheik to appear on the episode to say F***k The Ultimate Warrior that Jabroni. Love The Iron Sheik.✌
@lordhirudo5311
@lordhirudo5311 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where the Sheik basically said that the Warrior was a gay prostitute. 😂
@fernandoguajardo2750
@fernandoguajardo2750 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordhirudo5311 🤣 is the video on youtube, would like to check it out.
@lordhirudo5311
@lordhirudo5311 3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandoguajardo2750 that’s where I saw it. It was a compilation of wrestlers doing shoots on the Warrior. Most of them just said he was an asshole, but the Sheik went that extra mile, as usual!
@SteelSunday
@SteelSunday 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordhirudo5311 Didn't Warrior refuse to shake his hand at some wrestling con and Sheik lost his temper.
@lordhirudo5311
@lordhirudo5311 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteelSunday I’m not sure, but I think that was why Sheik was mad at Hulk Hogan. There’s *tons* of reasons that virtually any wrestler would be mad at Warrior, however.
@azapro911
@azapro911 Жыл бұрын
It's said that before judging someone, letting them tell their side of the story is important. Unfortunately in the Warrior's case, his own words confirm he was a complete douchebag.
@kingnotail3838
@kingnotail3838 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing is that Bobby Heenan actually outlived him by a number of years
@russoswerve7856
@russoswerve7856 3 жыл бұрын
I would’ve loved a two part series on the Warrior. One part on his wrestling career, another on his post wrestling career
@gurujackburton
@gurujackburton 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the could have gone into his questionable "motivational speeches", all of his attempts to grift fans, that video about Macho Man right after his death that turned into some rant against Hogan and finally get sued by a fan for fraud.
@russoswerve7856
@russoswerve7856 3 жыл бұрын
That shoot on Hogan was a proper burial. Warrior meticulously buried Terry Bollea like a surgeon at work. I would love to see a documentary on the speaking of the Warrior. I still listen to that Burial Of Hogan occasionally, he was a good promo
@henrygvidonas9573
@henrygvidonas9573 2 жыл бұрын
"He played up his last name 'King' as if he was one..." Said the guy who legally renamed himself "Warrior", the fake fighting performance artist who was never anywhere near a war or a serious violent conflict, or ever competed in a real combat sport... What a ridiculous assclown! He would have dropped dead 20 years earlier if somebody had forced him to march 40 miles.
@brewer921
@brewer921 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest weakness of the Dark Side shows are that the are only one hour, which means they are about 45 minutes. The two best ones might have been the Benoit two-parter and the Brian Pillman two-parter, because they were two episodes. The two others I really liked were Owen Hart and the Von Erichs, because they focused on the redemption of Owen Hart and his wife's aim to keep his memory alive and Kevin Von Erich. They had a narrow focus.
@S.E.J
@S.E.J 3 жыл бұрын
Von Erichs could’ve been 2 episodes also
@DLRX
@DLRX 3 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoyed the Korea, Brawl for All, and Herb Abrams episodes too.
@dnakatomiuk
@dnakatomiuk 3 жыл бұрын
The Von erichs was dark side that's for sure and it could have been 2 episodes but I don't think it would have been nice to continue to ask for more from the only living Von Erich left. He gave what he could I think and for him to continue to provide more when he didn't look well but says he's happy with his life I think they did what they got was just enough
@jdgeibe
@jdgeibe 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@lemjones2218
@lemjones2218 3 жыл бұрын
The Gorgeous Gino, Road warriors, Bruiser Brody episodes were good also, but lately this season they been trash except for Pullman episodes.
@maxand.1462
@maxand.1462 3 жыл бұрын
8:19 Ho Kogan, Leather Hedger, Booby Heenan - the self destruction of the english language
@anti-famous3033
@anti-famous3033 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being like 10 yrs old my stepdad at the time had me watch the self destruction of the ultimate warrior DVD. I couldn’t pay any attention I was blinded by how cool I thought he was. As I got older I saw things on the internet of him saying wild shit. I just can’t believe someone can be so overly unpleasant.
@causerDAguv
@causerDAguv 3 жыл бұрын
I was a huge fan of Warrior growing up but as I got older and understood the craft I eventually saw that he wasn't that skilled or great in the ring then with his comments in the past I really thought less of him as both a wrestler and a person. Even though I thought the burying of Warrior in the WWE dvd was kind of shitty I agree with what Booker T said recently is that they weren't actually wrong. RIP but people shouldn't have to sugar coat him.
@2011americanman
@2011americanman 2 жыл бұрын
The craft was entertaining the crowd which was filled with family’s not wrestling enthusiasts. Warrior was miles ahead of everyone in that regard. That why were here talking about warrior and not those other bums.
@AmericanWrathchild
@AmericanWrathchild 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I took away from the episode was that Warrior should've never fucked things up with his first wife. She seemed like a really good person.
@AmericanWrathchild
@AmericanWrathchild 3 жыл бұрын
@@majurbludd Okay. So? Being a stripper doesn't make someone a bad person.
@jakefoley9539
@jakefoley9539 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought she came off like a saint in this episode
@AmericanWrathchild
@AmericanWrathchild 3 жыл бұрын
@KaneMagus Good point 😂
@brianm2881
@brianm2881 3 жыл бұрын
'Destrucity' is like something Gary Busey would say, but Gary Busey at least has the excuse of suffering massive brain damage in the 80s.
@DillyDilly13
@DillyDilly13 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao my god the accuracy
@MaggieKeizai
@MaggieKeizai 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading rumors, supposedly from his early days in the business, that Warrior was a rent boy on the side. And I've seen a couple of shoot interviews where it was mentioned in passing that he had sex with other men. So there's that, take it for whatever it's worth to you.
@Vikdeb25502
@Vikdeb25502 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit . This was unexpected.
@philb3717
@philb3717 3 жыл бұрын
No 98 WCW!! Should have been 2 parts
@markgiallo3129
@markgiallo3129 2 жыл бұрын
I beleive they didnt bring up his WCW run because the only reason he was there was that Hogan could get his wrestlemania 6 loss redeemed
@henneberrymike
@henneberrymike 3 жыл бұрын
I’m actually really surprised they didn’t talk to Melanie Pillman.
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 жыл бұрын
Suprised they didn't
@herecomesdatrain
@herecomesdatrain 3 жыл бұрын
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account forgive my ignorance but he was with melanie as well
@LightFromADeadStar
@LightFromADeadStar 3 жыл бұрын
@@herecomesdatrain yea he dated her before Brian did
@herecomesdatrain
@herecomesdatrain 3 жыл бұрын
@@LightFromADeadStar now I remember lapse of judgement my bad
@sc30002001
@sc30002001 3 жыл бұрын
I think she was the girl when his ex wife said I heard a girl's voice when he answered the phone.
@b-zoneonroku2020
@b-zoneonroku2020 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, Cornette talked the exact same shit to Florida residents who got hit by hurricanes for voting for DeSantis and Trump , as Warrior talked to Katrina victims.
@ThatTransMuffinOfficial
@ThatTransMuffinOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Two wrongs don't make a right
@seanmurphy1218
@seanmurphy1218 3 жыл бұрын
There was no roll of quarters. That video of Jake and Warrior interacting for the first time at the hall of fame is on youtube. Jake looks incredibly happy to see him lol.
@skippythealien9627
@skippythealien9627 2 жыл бұрын
i think there was legitimate heat. I mean ffs, Warrior literally cost Jake thousands and thousands of dollars. But yeah i think Jake was bsing about the roll of quarters...however I do think sometimes all that's needed to disarm decades and decades of bitterness is just talking man to man and working things out
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of this documentary i found so sad. He spent over a decade bitter at Vince and the WWE and then finally when he makes amends, he dies not even a week later.
@Pelcurus
@Pelcurus 3 жыл бұрын
I always saw it as a storybook finish. He was redeemed right before he passed away. Can't get a much better ending than that.
@jasonkelly8771
@jasonkelly8771 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really sad that it couldn't have been sooner.
@universe-ie2mk
@universe-ie2mk 3 жыл бұрын
he died the morning after his speech on raw. it was crazy how quick it all happened.
@godphoenix66x
@godphoenix66x 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonkelly8771 sadder that it wasn't you.
@BossManSays
@BossManSays 3 жыл бұрын
Hate keeps some folks going. It's why Jim will live forever. Because he will forever hate Russo.
@MrEmperorApples
@MrEmperorApples 3 жыл бұрын
Just use the WayBack machine. You'll be able to find whatever he posted if you know the website Warrior posted to before they were deleted.
@ShredderLivesOn
@ShredderLivesOn 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of his stuff is not available through Wayback Machine. Someone from Warrior's company 'Ultimate Creations' filed a DMCA takedown notice against Wayback Machine, and threatened to sue them for copyright over their archive of Warrior's website, including the blog where he wrote a lot of this heinous shit. There's been no test case for this kind of claim. So even if the people that run Wayback Machine thought they had a chance to win, it could have been incredibly drawn out and costly. Which when you have Dana Warrior, and WWE wanting to make sure that part of his legacy is erased to exploit his name for awards and other publicity events, then that's a pretty big ask of anyone to take on.
@teresabyrne3664
@teresabyrne3664 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@teresabyrne3664
@teresabyrne3664 3 жыл бұрын
Nice a very informative answer thanks
@bloodangel13
@bloodangel13 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShredderLivesOn But surely someone must have archived it privately and post the contents of the blogs somewhere ?
@dnakatomiuk
@dnakatomiuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloodangel13 They will be plenty of people who have screenshotted his rants and saved his videos, and after this doc and the other one someone will leak it out. If someone who has bad stuff in there life and then someone is hiding it or trying someone will come out with that stuff they were trying to hide just prove
@darkpitch1
@darkpitch1 8 ай бұрын
Vince must’ve had a soft spot for Warrior to have wanted to have him in his company despite all that happened.
@simplesim3534
@simplesim3534 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta hand it to Jim too and I think more people should take note, is don't change you tone or opinion on someone just because they passed away. I think it speaks a lot to a person character when they try to change their attitude and feelings towards someone just bc they passed. If you felt like they were an asshole, then continue to feel that.
@postersandstuff
@postersandstuff 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt MJ wasn't anything special , fancy dance moves but so has Chris Walken and I didn't change my mind when he (MJ) died in '09
@mike04574
@mike04574 2 жыл бұрын
@@postersandstuff Chris walken is overrated but that’s just my opinion
@tactictoe
@tactictoe 3 ай бұрын
Yep. Truly awful people end up getting a free pass, and nothing is learned.
@Hammerhead547
@Hammerhead547 3 жыл бұрын
In the end its a story that's as old as time in the entertainment industry when someone has fame fortune and success is thrust upon someone who isn't ready for it and can't sustain it for a prolonged period of time: Too much, too soon and nowhere to go but down.
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Warrior abusing drugs, steroids, being unfaithful on the road, refusing to speak to/sign autographs for young fans, and having a big head, THEN proclaiming he's some kind of role model...irony at its worst
@georgefrancis8602
@georgefrancis8602 3 жыл бұрын
Like with the current wrestlers 🤮
@postersandstuff
@postersandstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgefrancis8602 lots of wrestlers have cheated if were going down that road......UW was right about Ted , heard him and Ted Jr scammed MS welfare money. Andre also refused to sign autographs said Iron Sheik.
@gordonirvine726
@gordonirvine726 3 жыл бұрын
The audience bought it though. Its only disgruntled coworkers who hate the guy
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordonirvine726 well with a broken neck you tend to criticize your coworker that caused it
@michaeltucker9950
@michaeltucker9950 3 жыл бұрын
I almost pissed my pants as Jim read the letter from Titan Sports to Warrior firing him. 😆😆😆
@jpmcpheemcphee2695
@jpmcpheemcphee2695 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered the letter he wrote Bobby Heenan years ago, and this isn't pardoning his other rants, but reading THAT! I was all set with this Ultimate PIECE OF GARBAGE!
@chadvaughn7377
@chadvaughn7377 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Jim. I feel so bad for these middle-aged man-boys who cling to their adoration of him.
@georgecoley9514
@georgecoley9514 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding. I mean, I'm 37 yrs old, so I adored the guy as a kid...but it's not hard to figure out that the dude was an unapologetic piece of garbage in real life.
@thunderlightning1980
@thunderlightning1980 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimate S**thead!
@1983jcheat
@1983jcheat 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Warrior's Old lady got him into the Republican party. Warrior was doing a Limbaugh gimmick? Wtf.
@jamalwalker
@jamalwalker 3 жыл бұрын
@Blaine's Wasteland she's a fraud
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior at HOF: "I am redeemed" Karma: "I'm going to make you bump one last time!"
@steveknick1978
@steveknick1978 3 жыл бұрын
I had a thought that maybe he tried to dabble in same stuff that he used to do before going to the ring in order to get himself hyped up & it didn’t go well, but it’s just a thought.
@tharealest8190
@tharealest8190 3 жыл бұрын
Karma isn’t real and we all die , nice try tho
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
@@tharealest8190 Karma isn't even convenient for you to even be cynical about. But piss off enough ppl, and see how great your future will be😚
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveknick1978 I mean, it is weird that it happened so accurately on that time. But then again, roids gave him the short time clock. THIS is why I shit on people who try to call steroid use as just recreational and not a "serious drug". It's serious alright, dead serious 😐
@benjaminwiseman6567
@benjaminwiseman6567 3 жыл бұрын
@@shindean Almost all wrestlers back then did steroids at some point. In Warrior's case, it was more his family history and probably the meticulously diet to stay ripped. It turns out that diets super high in protein and low in complex carbs shorten your life span. Warrior would only sniff carbs.
@fergalstackstreams
@fergalstackstreams 3 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is did anyone save his eight-page rant on eBay when he was selling his WWF championship belt?
@masswellwiley6688
@masswellwiley6688 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard about that?
@gordonirvine726
@gordonirvine726 3 жыл бұрын
Please expand
@fergalstackstreams
@fergalstackstreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordonirvine726 He put up his WWF Championship belt from 1990 for like $20,000 or something on eBay. Someone DARED to question the authenticity of said title, which prompted the aforementioned rant in the item description.
@elijahloveell8809
@elijahloveell8809 2 жыл бұрын
@@fergalstackstreams Lol I can totally imagine that rant
@TheTezza1
@TheTezza1 3 жыл бұрын
And yet Warriors last ever match was against Orlando Jordan! Gotta love the irony 😂
@jj3399
@jj3399 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the dark side would be a lot harder on him
@masswellwiley6688
@masswellwiley6688 3 жыл бұрын
I think they thought his first wife was gonna throw him under the bus but she kinda didn’t.
@gurujackburton
@gurujackburton 3 жыл бұрын
@@masswellwiley6688 But she was at least honest, she did not even attempt to defend his shitty wrestling ability
@bettyframe8044
@bettyframe8044 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior wanting “destrucity” to become a thing..... wonder how he felt when The Rock had a few words put in the dictionary??
@cjtquk
@cjtquk 3 жыл бұрын
IT DOESN'T MATTER!
@tharealest8190
@tharealest8190 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure warrior couldnt care less , he came up with the word for himself and nothing more
@bronsontolliver9027
@bronsontolliver9027 3 жыл бұрын
Probably felt like a major jabroni
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I had no idea these existed. Jim hasn’t done Warrior’s lunacy justice. Dude was a fucking nut.
@douglasjarnagan3835
@douglasjarnagan3835 3 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to meet Jim Cornette someday just to ask him what he thinks of Ultimate Warrior.
@thedragonzord_
@thedragonzord_ 3 жыл бұрын
Was surprised that dark side of the ring went so soft. Especially considering all the drug talk they did with Pillman. A&E was the better doc.
@joeberben1982
@joeberben1982 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, was possibly the most 'surface level' dark side out of them all.. Basically nothing of note was said except that he wasn't a great wrestler over and over 🤷‍♂️
@Astro007GE-X
@Astro007GE-X 3 жыл бұрын
I think so too the only thing we learned about the dark side of the ring was his ex Shari Tyree who was his wife throughout his journey in his adult life. She knew who he was back before he went apeshit crazy egocentric.
@brianm2881
@brianm2881 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about what a colossal asshole the Ultimate Warrior could be has been done to death, so as far as I'm concerned, the producers were smart to approach it from a different angle. It's not even that they avoided talking about his failings, but bringing in his ex-wife really added a layer of nuance and emotion I wasn't expecting. Don't forget that the Dark Side in Dark Side of the ring could mean more than one thing. It could mean the seedy, bad side of the industry, but it can also just mean the story less told, and in Warrior's case that story is, at this stage, that he actually could be nice once in a while.
@simplesim3534
@simplesim3534 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing his ex wife tell her side of what kind of person he was before he became "warrior" when he was still Jim Helwig was really interesting.
@PeaceDweller
@PeaceDweller 3 жыл бұрын
I think the episode did what it was supposed to do. It peeled back the layers to get to the source of the man that was Warrior. When his father left home when Warrior was a kid, it shaped who he would then become. It told him early on that only he couldn't rely on anybody but himself, it made him wary & insecure of everybody. This is probably why when Warrior entered the business he marched to the beat of his own drum, he saw quickly how many workers would bust themselves night after night for chicken feed and he knew then that rather than the business working the talent, he was going to work the business. He didn't care about being "one of the boys" he wanted to carve out a lucrative career for himself out of fear of being let down again and send back to poverty. When you look at how much talent from the 70s & 80s became broken men in wheelchairs in destitute poverty. In some weird way, what Warrior did.. has to be respected.
@crissy4346
@crissy4346 3 жыл бұрын
Here's the way I describe it. I saw both Biography and DOTR. Biography was the broth, while DOTR was the meat.
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
I call it the GTA syndrome, where the overwhelming amount of content to indulge with means other large portions will be left out. It's a testament to how unbearable this guy was as a human being😕
@crissy4346
@crissy4346 3 жыл бұрын
@@shindean Yeah. Warrior certainly worked hard to be the biggest pile of 💩
@zachary_attackery
@zachary_attackery 3 жыл бұрын
DOTR was like the Great Value version of Biography
@crissy4346
@crissy4346 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachary_attackery I'd say Darkside of The Ring filled in the gaps. I knew DOTR was gonna be less sterilized. Cornette's not worried about a filter when it comes to his opinion, so I knew I was going to love it.
@Katie_Woo
@Katie_Woo 11 ай бұрын
Jim Cornette going to town on Warrior, Hogan and Jericho will always be entertaining because ITS TRUE
@louisharrison6593
@louisharrison6593 3 жыл бұрын
People kill the wwe for the "self destruction of the ultimate warrior" DVD, but that's exactly what happened.. the guy self destructed.. he was a pain to deal with.. its hard to do his biography without having to speak on all the negatives in his career
@travisburnett5685
@travisburnett5685 3 жыл бұрын
God why are all my childhood heros low key pieces of shit?!!? It sucks
@steveknick1978
@steveknick1978 3 жыл бұрын
Most people with a strong desire to be famous come from a wacky background, where they didn’t get enough attention/love as a child. Those circumstances create famous people who might not have the best odds at turning out to be high quality individuals.
@johnbarnett2316
@johnbarnett2316 3 жыл бұрын
because humans are flawed. even famous ones. I'm my kids hero but I'm a ex heroin addict that ended up escaping from prison but now I'm 4 years clean
@Ayo601
@Ayo601 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbarnett2316 😆🤣 dis dude hilarious
@johnbarnett2316
@johnbarnett2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ayo601 who me
@mykoniichistorychannel
@mykoniichistorychannel 3 жыл бұрын
He was upfront about it.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Darkside of the ring was gonna cover that he used to pose for gay magazines.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
@Cee Wil Eric Embry talked about it in a shoot interview and I was told that twice as a kid but 2 adult wrestling fans so I just always thought it was true
@tallking7777
@tallking7777 3 жыл бұрын
People who are obsessively anti-gay and talk about gay people all of the time are usually closeted gay straight men who are secure in their manhood and love women don't give a f*** what another people do in their bedroom if a guy is gay that's just more women for me.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
@Tall King I agree. Like that Lars guy in WWE. He was doing all that anti gay shit on his social media whole time he did gay porn in his pass
@tallking7777
@tallking7777 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesupervisor3270 bingo they say all of that stuff because they're trying to suppress it it's like they're trying to talk it away but it comes out eventually I wouldn't be surprised if some dude the ultimate warrior was banging got paid off to keep his mouth shut.
@piperar2014
@piperar2014 3 жыл бұрын
Bruce Prichard and Conrad were talking about the Warrior vs Slaughter match. Bruce was made that Uncle Dave called him the Anabolic Warrior. Bruce: Who does Meltzer think he is? Conrad: Are you going to pretend Warrior didn't use steriods? Bruce: I don't know that he did.
@anthonymackey222
@anthonymackey222 3 жыл бұрын
They do know that Sting is alive and well but wasn't interviewed.
@theyinkaquadri
@theyinkaquadri 3 жыл бұрын
And NO mention on his feud with Rick Rude.
@dnakatomiuk
@dnakatomiuk 3 жыл бұрын
What nothing at all in this doc about the matches considering the feud with RR was his well known feud except for the one match with Hogan.
@mrdethbuzzard4885
@mrdethbuzzard4885 3 жыл бұрын
Or his WCW run
@Halbared
@Halbared 3 жыл бұрын
I knew he had posted a good deal of Herculean Twaddle, but I did not know to what such degree a colossal knobhead he was.
@davidharrison9893
@davidharrison9893 3 жыл бұрын
Ha!!! Knobhead!!!
@distantandvague
@distantandvague 11 ай бұрын
Good lord. Some of these Warrior quotes are fucking brutal. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how Cornette's career long fanbase, notoriously Republican, can manage to separate the egregious political differences between Jim and themselves, when they are completely unable to do so in any other capacity on this planet.
@LBC1107
@LBC1107 2 жыл бұрын
The jake the Snake comment. He did turn heal in 91. Cobra bit Randy Savage on TV. I remember that. Kids crying in the stands. That was big back then. That was when Jake was at his best. He had a run with Savage. Had one with Taker. So I believe they were going have run with Warrior. Was no other heal for him at the time.
@Dyler
@Dyler 3 жыл бұрын
The fucked up part is that if Warrior spit these promos and had a more bare bones early 00's gimmick, he'd have been over as a massive heel. Like, imagine him as some warped crusader for moral purity, in the vein of Bret Hart, and you can see what I'm angling for. These promos are INFINITELY more coherent- albeit unfathomably more detestable- than ANYTHING he ever cut in his career. But, on a serious note, Warrior was a grade A bastard.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
WTF?? Dude u weird as fuck! It’s just somethings go pass pro wrestling and his comments would be one of them.
@jessepaiz6356
@jessepaiz6356 3 жыл бұрын
That would have been a great way for the WWE to lose their sponsors and millions of dollars.
@Dyler
@Dyler 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessepaiz6356 🤣🤣🤣 100% true. I obviously understand the real world restrictions of this idea...but still, it's fun to imagine.
@brianm2881
@brianm2881 3 жыл бұрын
The WWE already had a few of those types of gimmicks - Kurt Angle, Right to Censor and heel Backlund. Plus they had late 90s Bossman who was just going around being a massive asshole feeding Al Snow's own dog to him, or dragging Big Show's dad's coffin behind a cop car. WWE had most of that ground covered.
@nateemond197
@nateemond197 3 жыл бұрын
I had that wrestling buddy in the documentary. I also had the Hogan one. I think there was also a Ted DiBiase and Big Boss Man one. Warrior seems to be everything old Cornette said he was after watching the two documentaries.
@CashColorCannabis
@CashColorCannabis 3 жыл бұрын
First time listening. Love it!! Jim Cornette is so great at telling stories. Great fact check of Jake Roberts
@RCstrats
@RCstrats 3 жыл бұрын
Iron Shiek always said”, Fak the ultimate warrior “. The Jake timeline was incredible!! WOW!! Blame Vince McMahon!!
@scypsylock9402
@scypsylock9402 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...I could cry if I could to the things Jim Helwig said and wrote about all of those people. I'm a Union SAG-AFTRA actor/performer and the roles we act are like wrestling characters - they are just characters, NOT real life, aside from those like the Von Erichs who did not need gimmicks to be a character other than themselves who did great in the day. Aside from that, we are actors, just as wrestlers are actors in a similar way, only they are great athletes. I am straight and can care less what others do in their lives because the gay community, or bi community, or what have you do not effect my life in any way, and I have no problem with what other people do - just as long as they are nice then that's all that matters. Everyone has an opinion, but WTF was Jim thinking when he went on a bipolar tirade bashing gay people!? And the things he said about Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was heart breaking. What the hell did Bobby ever do? I almost wished I didn't know these things, but I'd rather know and not be ignorant of this craziness with the things he spewed...like MLK and how Jim bashed him of all people! He was a hero and more courageous than Jim's imaginary alter ego ever would have been if he were real and not some comic book hero....what the flying shit was he thinking!? MLK was a hero, he was beaten, jailed, shot at and yet he did not let those stop him from his dream. I'm a red skinned Pawnee and was not around in the 60's by any means, but that man was a damn hero! WTF Warrior, what the hell was he on when he said those things? And what the fuck is destrucity!??? Sounds like a dick pill!
@postersandstuff
@postersandstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Its the same when you're at work : some people you like , some you dont
@Henry_Croskery
@Henry_Croskery 3 жыл бұрын
"...the paved road was easy to take a bump on.." Brilliant!
@thelastape7736
@thelastape7736 11 ай бұрын
So on the flip side, who is the most loved wrestler? Mic Foley?
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 3 жыл бұрын
“Modern comforts and conveniences” 🤣
@capndanpool4670
@capndanpool4670 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior wasn't a conservative, just a lunatic
@iamdb1990
@iamdb1990 3 жыл бұрын
same thing lol
@crissy4346
@crissy4346 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamdb1990 exactly
@Duck_Dodgers
@Duck_Dodgers 3 жыл бұрын
Steroids ate everything included his brain
@mafost26
@mafost26 3 жыл бұрын
@@crissy4346 You know you're living in a weird world when the people who believe in thousands of genders are calling those who don't "lunatics" lol.
@brianmcdonald7017
@brianmcdonald7017 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior was correct. Period.
@Shiftygism
@Shiftygism 3 жыл бұрын
While Jake's timeline claims seems off, don't forget Warrior was also feuding with Taker in 1991, maybe the original plan was for Hogan to drop the belt to Taker at Survivor Series (without Flair's involvement as him jumping ship to the WWF may not have been a thing at that point) then Warrior taking it off Taker to feud with Jake. Then again, with the conflicting stories Bret and Hogan have told regarding the championship in 1993, it might just be another case of Vince making empty promises leading each person along.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 6 ай бұрын
I remember the bodybag match between Taker and Warrior. July 1991 I think it was. I remember Taker putting Warrior in the casket as well, which had big scratches on the inside of it, to indicate the desperation of the Warrior trying to escape.
@Steambull1
@Steambull1 8 ай бұрын
Definitely seemed like the kind of dude who'd look at a terminally ill person and think "he didn't have the discipline to shape himself a better destiny, what a loser." Also, love how he always covered the part of his life where him and Sting stole food due to not having money as if it was an example of him being a strong-willed warrior - I'm sure he wouldn't see it that way for anyone else.
@arnabmukhopadhyay7078
@arnabmukhopadhyay7078 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I never got was what the deal was with this 'Dingo' Warrior name? I know the name was a spoof and all but what exactly does it mean? Like is he a warrior named Dingo, a warrior who is Dingoish or a warrior waging war against Dingos?
@Cboz1978
@Cboz1978 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior knew all about adultery.
@mattm6580
@mattm6580 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Brian, the episode lacked focus. It's supposed to be the dark side of the ring, we dont need his bio or even his WWF run. Theres nothing "dark" about those. The dark side was his post wrestling life.
@christophercomitini8619
@christophercomitini8619 3 жыл бұрын
And that wasn't even "dark". It's the shit you hear on right wing talk radio every day.
@jovanss2361
@jovanss2361 3 жыл бұрын
He never really had a father or a true friend, so he had to be the "ultamite" man above all else, then you'll be the friend underneath him. It gets old quick and pushes people away no matter hard someone tries to stay in your life.. and once he lost his lady, he was even further done
@insupportofjunhado
@insupportofjunhado 3 жыл бұрын
"That concrete road was easy to take a bump on." "Off the top of your head from over thirty years ago! That right there is why you're on the program!"
@drj7899
@drj7899 3 жыл бұрын
Moxley and Kingston's tag-team finisher the "Violent Crown" should be called the "Hell Wig" instead.
@SweetMercy
@SweetMercy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the feeling Jim Cornette didn't like the Warrior. Damn......
@DavidDexterMusic
@DavidDexterMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I printed all that stuff out at the time he uploaded it. I used to print off tons of wrestling stuff I wanted to read during the day at work, so I could read it on the train home after work. Threw away all the news stuff but kept all the articles and things written by wrestlers. Warrior and Raven had interesting regular updates on their sites, I kept those.
@richardwolcott5567
@richardwolcott5567 Жыл бұрын
I saw the biography of the Ultimate warrior and thought he was a total idiot.
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