Jim Keller: Moore's Law, Microprocessors, and First Principles

Jim Keller: Moore's Law, Microprocessors, and First Principles | Lex Fridman Podcast #70

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Jim Keller is a legendary microprocessor engineer, having worked at AMD, Apple, Tesla, and now Intel. He's known for his work on the AMD K7, K8, K12 and Zen microarchitectures, Apple A4, A5 processors, and co-author of the specifications for the x86-64 instruction set and HyperTransport interconnect.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
2:12 - Difference between a computer and a human brain
3:43 - Computer abstraction layers and parallelism
17:53 - If you run a program multiple times, do you always get the same answer?
20:43 - Building computers and teams of people
22:41 - Start from scratch every 5 years
30:05 - Moore's law is not dead
55:47 - Is superintelligence the next layer of abstraction?
1:00:02 - Is the universe a computer?
1:03:00 - Ray Kurzweil and exponential improvement in technology
1:04:33 - Elon Musk and Tesla Autopilot
1:20:51 - Lessons from working with Elon Musk
1:28:33 - Existential threats from AI
1:32:38 - Happiness and the meaning of life
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@lexfridman 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this conversation with Jim. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 2:12 - Difference between a computer and a human brain 3:43 - Computer abstraction layers and parallelism 17:53 - If you run a program multiple times, do you always get the same answer? 20:43 - Building computers and teams of people 22:41 - Start from scratch every 5 years 30:05 - Moore's law is not dead 55:47 - Is superintelligence the next layer of abstraction? 1:00:02 - Is the universe a computer? 1:03:00 - Ray Kurzweil and exponential improvement in technology 1:04:33 - Elon Musk and Tesla Autopilot 1:20:51 - Lessons from working with Elon Musk 1:28:33 - Existential threats from AI 1:32:38 - Happiness and the meaning of life

@maxlieberman578 4 жыл бұрын

David Deutsch please! :)

@byrnemeister2008 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Diggins You sir have failed the Turing test!

@byrnemeister2008 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Diggins Try rebooting or maybe retrain your NLP model on a bigger and more relevant dataset. Your comments look almost random.

@byrnemeister2008 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Diggins Hilarious. I still think this account is a students software project. Hence the random selection of topics and the weak excuse of auto correct errors because your typing on a phone. Followed by a big ream of text. This could be a GPT2 response.

@isuckatthisgame 4 жыл бұрын

Lex, you are the real MVP. Ultimate professor. Thank you! Regards from Europe.

@olekkuvppl 4 жыл бұрын

Oh my god Silicon Ronin himself. Silicon Ronin has no home. He goes from impossible task to next impossible task and builds his miracles. Jim is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you know very little about. I once saw him design a FPGA in a bar... with a pencil, with a fucking pencil. Then suddenly one day he asked to leave. So I made a deal with him. I gave him an impossible task. A job no one could have pulled off. To make AMD competitive again and he succeeded . The architecture choices he made that day laid the foundation of what we are now.

@dimomarkov8937 4 жыл бұрын

@HiberNAT 4 жыл бұрын

and thats how i met your mother

@bobsagget823 4 жыл бұрын

get a life

@d1oftwins 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-io4sr7vg1v Jim was not talking about AMD's Zen architecture.

@d1oftwins 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-io4sr7vg1v I was merely informing you about that fact, there was not judgment on my side.

@soumyarooproy 4 жыл бұрын

Jim's super cool and also very respected in the industry. He was a big inspiration for me early on in my career. I was a fairly junior CPU performance engineer at AMD when Jim joined AMD in 2012 (he'd worked at AMD earlier in his career too). I worked on the Zen program, which was being led by Jim. I saw him at my gym one morning, deadlifting 275 lbs (or maybe more) and I went up to him and introduced myself. He was super friendly and continued to be so whenever I'd run into him. We'd exchange our personal bests in lifting. IIRC, he was in his mid 50's then. Given the similarity in our backgrounds (CPU design) and his professional achievements and his amazing discipline, it was a no-brainer for me to aspire to be like him.

@stints 4 жыл бұрын

I hope you continue to push yourself and do some great things like he has. You can do it.

@xeightyx 4 жыл бұрын

do you remember what his personal bests were?

@sommyaruproy8405 3 жыл бұрын

Wtf i have never met a person with same name as me.

@mriegger 3 жыл бұрын

He looks considerably stronger and healthier than most of Lex's other guests who are often a lot younger. All that gym time definitely paying off.

@djmips 3 жыл бұрын

He was at AMD from age 53 to 57.

@ShiroKage009 4 жыл бұрын

One thing that's incredible is that Jim doesn't "err" or "umm" at all, or almost at all. It's crazy how present all the stuff he's taking about is in his mind.

@VishalSingh-vq1fc 4 жыл бұрын

1:23:10 That's how you know he's in top .1%

@touchdownraiders2009 4 жыл бұрын

ShiroiKage009 Great observation. I never thought about that until you said it. I was just telling my daughter to rid her vocabulary of umm’s and likes.

@AnHebrewChild 4 жыл бұрын

Damn. Great point.

@dualface6104 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you mention this. This is one of my major pet peeves in life about the current state of way too many people's speech patterns & I wish I knew where it comes from so I could destroy it. Had a few people at work that, in THE MOST polite way I knew how, made me finally interrupt them, so that they would speak *just one* coherrent sentence. If an individual would only think about what they wanna say before opening their mouth, they would say a lot less, & it'd undoubtedly be more impactful. 😵😎✌

@glennquagmire9900 4 жыл бұрын

@@dualface6104 if you really have a pet peeve about that, you're the one with issues. who really cares about something so insignificant..? a lot of geniuses had and do have issues with social/verbal aspects. theres a lot of things you do that i'm sure people have pet peeves about too.

@andrewm6788 3 жыл бұрын

I like how Jim isn't afraid to make Lex question his entire career

@KabzieMusic 4 жыл бұрын

This is a man at the cutting edge of his field.

@Mrawesome2346 4 жыл бұрын

@@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 what do you mean by that?

@Mrawesome2346 4 жыл бұрын

@@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 oh ok i agree it is close

@greyalien826 4 жыл бұрын

@@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 that makes completely no sense. a 10 year old that sees this today won't surpass him in 5 years or less.. lol. Nor does that have nothing to do with the singularity.

@greyalien826 4 жыл бұрын

@@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 Uh.. there's kids that been like that since forever? except they just used books instead. Also it's not hard for kids.. because their brains are more elastic at younger ages. they can absorb and keep information better. 5 languages as a kid isnt impressive. it's just memorization which as i said is even easier as a kid. Also math isn't either, its just a set of rules that you follow and compute. all because a 10 year old has access to the internet doesn't mean hes going to surpass him in 5 years. with intuition? that doesn't even make sense. Uh it will most likely be people from multiple generations. if its that generation that creates the AI machine it is simply just because the information and tech hasn't caught up yet to the previous gen. it has nothing to do with "surpassing" someone.

@greyalien826 4 жыл бұрын

@@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 This is dumb. People are not just "gaining more intelligence" intelligence has pretty much been the same since however long. But id assume if there is ANY change its just all the stimuli may be having a small effect on pattern recognition, etc. also possibly people eating healthier, that's all. uh, as i said, there is not much of an "intuition advantage" with regards to this.. its machines and programmed algorithms.. what are you even saying. also, your statement could have been said 5 years ago about another 10 year old. yea, and i still don't know why i have to tell you a 10 year old isnt goin to surpass him in 5 years.

@micosair 4 жыл бұрын

This is the guy behind the Ryzen series of processors which brought AMD back from the dead.

@happynews6219 4 жыл бұрын

true that

@Jixejo 4 жыл бұрын

aha

@codykeane6107 4 жыл бұрын

He's worked on the major series from basically all manufacturers. Did the Ryzen series for AMD and athlon, A4/A5 for Apple and x86(64) for Intel. Pretty nuts work load and knowledge this guy has.

@Jaker788 4 жыл бұрын

@@codykeane6107 The x86-64 was done at AMD and licenced to Intel. At the time Intel was going to drop x86 and go to a VLIW instruction set architecture, called Itanium.

@hjembrentkent6181 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah solo job

@raneynickel7443 4 жыл бұрын

"Physics itself has been a shitshow for thousands of years." Brilliant!

@bry2k 4 жыл бұрын

@@okthatsnice He meant there's a lot of questions yet to be answered and a lot of disagreement about how to eventually get to those answers, if the answers even exist.

@vimalsheoran8040 3 жыл бұрын

@@bry2k Yep true.

@GrimSleepy 3 жыл бұрын

I would agree with hundreds, but the civilizations that seemed to have understanding of physics thousands of years ago seemed to take their knowledge and understanding with them when their empires collapsed.

@8kigana 3 жыл бұрын

@@GrimSleepy oh my Lord you are 100% correct, they took that and certain medicinal cures with them too. Maybe even a sense of spirituality as well. I think of the Mayans ability to track time with such precisions, the Egyptians building pyramids with remarkable engineering and precision. It's like there were aliens we don't know about that somehow got them by (or lived among them).

@AE0N777 3 жыл бұрын

@@8kigana The Gobleki Teppe is another anomaly. A 12 000 year old hunter gatherer society should not have been able to produce the biggest monolithic site in history. Even more incredibly, they did not live there. Instead they used the site for a religious pilgrimage.

@psychotogether5114 4 жыл бұрын

These Lexures are nothing short of amazing. Don’t change anything. Your voice is yours.

@sethbracken 4 жыл бұрын

Sam Stone nice coinage lol

@hrishabhrajput9504 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lex! I am a big fan of Jim Keller. I somewhere heard that the microprocessor industry is just this guy competing with himself. He is hired by different companies to beat the processor he had built previously at other company.

@kahvac 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like he is uniquely qualified to do so.

@Jaker788 4 жыл бұрын

Well wherever he works, it's not just him. Ryzen for example, he made the data fabric to get the MCM and then chiplet architecture to mesh together, infinity fabric. The rest of the Ryzen architecture was mostly built by other AMD engineers lead by Jim. I think it's fair to say he always adds something significant to everything he works on, but it's not just him.

@wl4dymir 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jaker788 a bunch of the very best engineers seem to gravitate around him and each other too whenever he moves. Or so I heard.

@Alistair 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jaker788 you're taking the joke a bit overly literally there

@djmips 3 жыл бұрын

I think you can take it literally because he as much said that companies want to build a new architecture every 10 years but he wants to do it every 3-5 years. The only way to do that is to switch companies effectively.

@danesovic7585 4 жыл бұрын

1:06:13 Lex: "Everything you said is correct." Jim: "Yay"

@temprd 4 жыл бұрын

Could watch this one on a loop indefinitely. So many good tidbits in here.

@hoolerboris 4 жыл бұрын

New video is out. I've never heard of the guest. His field is microprocessors, which I've never thought of as something interesting. Turns out to be one of the wisest humans I've listened to and possibly the best hour and a half of listening experience I've had in my life. Jim is incredibly insightful about technology, science, and just the human condition in general. Thanks Lex for making stuff like this possible.

@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Жыл бұрын

He's also Jordan Peterson's brother in law.

@sherrythomas8149 Жыл бұрын

Your comment is so valuable. You're describing exactly what I think about the subject and now I will actually listen and give it a try.

@nachonachoman 11 ай бұрын

I would argue that microprocessor architect requires more engineering excellence than rocket science. And Jim Keller has been one of the best for a long time. A treat to hear him unfiltered

@deesmods6696 4 жыл бұрын

Jim's work has changed so many peoples lives, including mine.

@YinnonHaviv 4 жыл бұрын

IMO, this is definitely one of the best interviews by Lex. I found Jim Keller to be a version of Elon Musk with improved communication skills and more grounded/effective approach to projects. Thank you Jim for the insights and Lex for facilitating the interview, it was truly fascinating.

@effexon 3 жыл бұрын

I still find it... unimaginable even with his communication skills to work with marketing... I dont know are they smart or not in tech, IT, but it sure is challenge.

@nachonachoman 11 ай бұрын

@@kevinc-nj5hnit's actually a valid comparison. They both set the architecture for their products. Architecture is a higher level of design. And Elon is really good at it. But IC architecture, IMHO, is probably the hardest product to do it on. Keller is a legend

@deanfowles3707 8 ай бұрын

Oh shut up

@brendank 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see you talk with Linus Torvalds

@evolagenda 3 жыл бұрын

That'd be fantastic

@pwny4995 3 жыл бұрын

This pls!!!

@toffotin 3 жыл бұрын

@buggy89 3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@BigEightiesNewWave 3 жыл бұрын

*flips bird* not me.

@SomeTechGuy666 4 жыл бұрын

"I've read a couple books a week for 50 years." WOW. 1:24:00

@fatpen9731 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, wow

@kyleganse4978 4 жыл бұрын

It shows what’s important to him!

@GaminHasard 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah just paused right there and rewinded it. Did I get that right? Books are lives condensed in 200 pages. Learning tool for the human collective.

@SamuelHauptmannvanDam 4 жыл бұрын

There is only 2 others, I know do the same. Bill Gates and Marc Andreessen.

@jacobuserasmus 4 жыл бұрын

I only started reading a few books a week a couple of years ago. I can just imagine what he must have learned.

@mikexu9397 4 жыл бұрын

I was shocked by the accuracy of the prediction of branching as well. I learned it when taking a computer architecture class that's required by my CS major. The explanation that I came up with is this: Intuitively when we think of a branch instruction, we think of it as an if-else structure in C. Then, the accuracy should be around 50%. Achieving 85% without doing anything fancy doesn't make any sense. However, the blind-spot is the loop structure. For example, when using a for loop in C, the complier translates the loop into a branch structure where if the condition is true, it branches back to the top of the loop; if it's not true, then it branches out of the loop. Imagining having a for loop that loops 50 times. Predicting that the branch will jump back to the loop will have an accuracy of 49/50 = 98%. Just imagine how many loops a normal program has. Having an 85% accuracy doesn't sound impossible now. Also, that's why I subjective believe that trying to prefect the prediction algorithm is the wrong way to go. The initial high accuracy is not merit. It's just a nice feature due to programs having many loops. There's no reason to think that we are able to prefect the prediction. Hope this helps.

@anjankatta1864 4 жыл бұрын

This is a helpful explanation thank you!

@a.d.1882 4 жыл бұрын

Beside loops, there are also all the error checks conditionals which are false most of the time. There are even compiler macros to advise the compiler in that case (so that it can put the condition body in a far away memory area, this way more of the real code to be executed get cached). Honestly there’s really nothing surprising in this at all of that for people doing low-level / OS / compiler / game programming for a living. Only people who are stuck in their high-level programming ivory towers finds such information “surprising”.

@mikexu9397 4 жыл бұрын

@@a.d.1882 Cool! Thanks!

@BladeAurora 4 жыл бұрын

@@a.d.1882 yeah idk how so many people get stuck in their ivory towers. do they just forget everything they learn in computer architecture class?

@ethiesm1 4 жыл бұрын

CRAZY🤯No Clue- Thank you

@jato72 4 жыл бұрын

Best podcast I have heard in a while. A very refreshing guest!

@CharlesVanNoland 4 жыл бұрын

As far as the recipe analogy is concerned, I've always thought about it like this: some people know a lot of recipes and are great at executing them while much fewer people know how to actually come up with recipes because they have an intimate grasp on and awareness of the problem space and all of its dimensionality.

@lolurobese 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there’s absolutely recognition deserved for the recipe makers. But how about the expert craftsmen/chefs who trained for thousands of hours that execute the recipe at a much higher level than the average one? Both are equally impressive

@AlanW 4 жыл бұрын

"let me ask Jim Keller: 'what is conciousness?'" - 🤣

@samerm8657 3 жыл бұрын

What an incredible cocktail of a personality! Humble and down to earth, while seamlessly savage and large as a star at the same time.

@jgrutzik 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Lex - Please ask each guest to provide a list of their top ten favorite books and add these lists to your show notes. Thanks for all you do.

@woocashky 4 жыл бұрын

Joe Grutzik -> ten is a bit excessive - I read a lot but can't come up with 5 on top of my head ;P (maybe just me tho...) - all 5 titles would be some paniced bs that happened to rattle in my head at the time. And ten...? Ferris got workaround for this: "what is the one book that you've gifted the most" ... Or something like that. Much more specific imo...

@AnHebrewChild 4 жыл бұрын

Joe G- I'm with the other commenter Lucas: I'd say 3 books would be good, 4-5 tops. But I do LIKE the idea.

@greensleeves6005 4 жыл бұрын

Bumppppppp

@Felicidade101 4 жыл бұрын

book nerds. Its in the execution you will find wisdom!

@AnHebrewChild 4 жыл бұрын

gekkeredon We've got to not merely hear good principles & practices but actually _execute_ on them. TRUE. Thing is, reading quality books is one of the best ways to acquire these principles. (As Keller explains in the vid). Hence, we book nerds' request for book recommendations. cheers

@bonky10 19 күн бұрын

This was seriously one of the most interesting interviews i've seen and it's not just his work but the way he thinks. I hope he's written a book. i can't explain how, but it's like he is thinking in a scale of infinite and acknowledges that humanity in a way is going in its own ever sorta S-curve. What a thinker.

@DaveWard-xc7vd 4 жыл бұрын

1:29:40 "The rest of the population has been dealing with that since they were born". PRO FREAKING FOUND!

@npgatech7 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't understand that bit, can you explain?

@DaveWard-xc7vd 4 жыл бұрын

@@npgatech7 He was forcasting the future relationship between super intelligent machines and humans, while reflecting on the current relationship between the 98% of people with average or below average intelligence and that 2% of people with genius IQs. Cars were invented by geniuses to be driven by fools. So it is with most things. In the future all of mankind will be the fool.

@MindlessSuccess 4 жыл бұрын

Well most people don't deal with it because they ignore the facts and base their decisions on emotions. My observation is that the dumber the person, the less aware they are of the existence of people more intelligent than them. Perhaps, a super intelligent AI will be something that we will never even become aware of.

@DaveWard-xc7vd 4 жыл бұрын

@@MindlessSuccess I am blessed/cursed with an exceptionally high IQ and for the most part people dont seem to notice because I lean towards being introverted and I tend to observe more than judge. Then there have been situations where I stepped out of character to save the day and people I thought my friends have reacted badly. It was as though their whole perception of me had just been shattered. I dont pretend to be an idiot. I just dont try to solve every problem but they react as if lied to them Strange.

@DaveWard-xc7vd 4 жыл бұрын

@@MindlessSuccess I agree with you on AI. It is most likely among us and we have no idea. But I suspect.

@jordandaniel714 Жыл бұрын

This is like watching an adult teaching a 6 year old new things

@keybraker 4 жыл бұрын

Jim is an absolute legend. Cool, thoughtful, smart and humble. I need more Keller in my life.

@MrSushantsingh 4 жыл бұрын

Jim taking Lex’s case every few minutes 🤣 Jim was trying to save a then sinking AMD when I was there back in 2012-13 time frame, thereafter life forced me towards Deep Learning😊

@DonBrowningRacing 4 жыл бұрын

Pure pleasure watching Lex finally bend to some of Jim's answers when Lex would suddenly realize Jim's answer was beyond Lex's preconceived answer. Beautiful.

@ZaDowlan 4 жыл бұрын

Yea. I feel like this while interview went above Lex's head

@spacekidastro 4 жыл бұрын

This guy's really well spoken on things and he stands on what he says, great interview👌🏽

@piyh3962 4 жыл бұрын

This is such an approachable talk on the most complex things humans manufacture. Thanks Lex.

@nickamodio721 4 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic conversation that was! It boggles my mind that people like Jim Keller exist; people who are able to absorb thousands of deeply abstract technical concepts and then as a team use that collective knowledge and intuition to create new, effectively magic objects such as microprocessors. It must take quite a special group of minds to accomplish that. I wish that I was smart enough to do something like that, but in the end I'm just glad we all get to come along for the ride and benefit from their brilliance. I can't wait to see what the next 20 years of exponential growth will do to society. I'm ready for a whole lot of change.

@RolanElizabeth Ай бұрын

He mentioned something about reading a couple of books every week for 50 years and he's in a practical field that applies what you read,so maybe you can do something similar

@rubenpinamonti7125 4 жыл бұрын

I've watched this whole interview 3 times already; this man has me mesmerized. What truly wondrous intellect and wisdom.

@RolanElizabeth Ай бұрын

Ikr,I think someone needs to take every 5 mins he talked about and do a 1 hour video explaining what he means practically and maybe he might be there to help too but you know, he's not a nobody he's a part of existence that's done something important so probably busy

@richardgordon7123 4 жыл бұрын

Lex, as a former computer engineer, this has to be one of my favorite interviews. Jim Keller is an uber engineer and someone of enormous knowledge, experience, craftsmanship, and an earned humility from the school of hard knocks. What a great podcast. Congrats.

@klaymoon1 Ай бұрын

I haven't seen this much of wisdom at one go like this. My deep respect to you, Jim! Only thing I have to disagree is that your team will be much smarter and much bigger. Because soon most members of your team will be self-conscious AI's.

@housecat93 4 жыл бұрын

This is the one. THIS is the interview I was waiting for.

@brandonb87 4 жыл бұрын

i've listened to many of these while at work in headphones, but this one in particular happened to resonate with me in a special way... thanks for being awesome

@pokeshark 4 жыл бұрын

01:32:26 "my nephew called me a jaded optimist" hahaha

@PrinceCharming2218 4 жыл бұрын

Jim Keller reminds me of an older Gilfoyle from Silicon Valley.

@tyler_drdn 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a brilliant jerk

@lifeisnotvibestv5124 3 жыл бұрын

From the thumbnail i thought it was him lol

@WildeTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын

Now I cannot unsee it 😅

@RolanElizabeth Ай бұрын

Who's Gilfoyle

@hisyamudin 4 жыл бұрын

If Warner Bro reading this, please hire Jim Keller as the next iterations of The Matrix Engineer in The Matrix 4

@christianpattison8238 4 жыл бұрын

Soo looking forward to the drive to work so I can listen to this on your podcast awesome work

@MrBizaaro Жыл бұрын

This guy has found inner peace. Awesome guest. Awesome podcast

@notokek 13 күн бұрын

When I was in high school my has been split in two groups for informatics lesson, one was making power point presentations, the other has been taught to code in c++ It was so hard for me, I was an A student and learnt every new concept effortlessly but on informatics lessons I felt so stupid and slow. Yet this kind of challenge excited me more than anything This video, especially Computer abstraction layers and parallelism makes me feel the same way. I don't understand it but I really want to. Thank you Lex and Jim, this is so amazing

@edh615 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic interview, can't get enough of him, any blogs\books\interviews with similar content? It's difficult to find such valuable compressed information on these topics.

@daikennett 4 жыл бұрын

"You can run a computer program 100 times, and it would be executed differently every time" - This is amazing! I didnt realise that there was such fuzzy execution going on.

@a.d.1882 4 жыл бұрын

Take a course in computer architecture, it’s not that surprising.

@thomasseptimius 4 жыл бұрын

@@a.d.1882 Take a course in politeness. No reason to be arrogant.

@timdoonan5898 4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasseptimius take a course in not attributing emotion to text. You have very little information to go off of and it's possible he wasn't intentionally being rude

@keithevans6450 4 жыл бұрын

It would have been interesting to ask him about all of the recent exploits related to speculative execution.

@robertpirsig5011 4 жыл бұрын

@@timdoonan5898 Take a course in minding your goddam business

@Jman2008xxl 4 жыл бұрын

This is F'n Oustanding! I wish I could have watched/listened to this podcast 10 years ago! 👏👍

@SpenserFL 4 жыл бұрын

Only just past halfway through and this is my favourite podcast ever - thank you Lex. So inspiring and hopeful.

@kirdiekirdie 4 жыл бұрын

This was the first of your interviews I've listened to and it was amazing, I will definitely listen to more!

@pauliedibbs9028 4 жыл бұрын

Good call on the ads, Lex! You are absolutely right about maintaining the flow, and I can say for at least myself that it is appreciated.

@garyswift9347 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Lex, you're GREAT. I'd love to see you talk to some people about the BIG DATA problems with modern astronomy. This conversation with Jim Keller made me think alot about this topic. I wish you had asked him a few things about it. Thanks for doing what you do. Keep it going for all of us who love to learn.

@137vuk 4 жыл бұрын

Such an amazing person to talk to.. I hope you will have some more interviews with Jim. Thank you for this one.

@ZionVisionEWF 4 жыл бұрын

I changed my mind on pursuing Architectural Engineering to stufy Software Engineering & Computer Science. This dude looks like a construction site foreman, but just showed how it looks to be a regular guy who's actually a tech pioneering nerd. Sick.

@kylegushue 4 жыл бұрын

Wow. This was a tremendous episode. My new favorite guest!!

@gnollio 4 жыл бұрын

Great interview. The difference in perspective (academic vs engineer) makes the conversation fascinating.

@DaedalusCreative 3 жыл бұрын

How is it that I understand less than 5% of this conversation and still find it so beautiful?

@0ne87 4 жыл бұрын

I came for the technical discussion but I really enjoyed his views on the philosophical topics and others not directly related to the technical. I really hope to see more interviews of Jim on various topics he seems incredibly knowledgable. Great talk.

@litolito7314 4 жыл бұрын

this is one of your most interesting interviews ever! AWESOME

@osirisgolad 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Lex, I just listened to the JRE episode with you on it and then decided to come to your channel to just have a look, not necessarily expecting too much crossover between my interests and the subject matter of your channel. The first thing I see is Jim Keller, the person at the top of my list of people who I have been wanting to hear speak outside of their official capacity for at least a decade now. I can't wait to listen to this and discover who else you've had on your show.

@valoriel4464 4 жыл бұрын

JRE bump got me here too. Subscribed, then podcast binge ensued. Great content

@kingwoodbudo 3 жыл бұрын

I had not heard of first principles until this video. Now I'm looking forward to learning more about it and how to apply it to whatever I do. Thanks, Lex for having so many great people come on your show. I've learned so much from so many of them.

@luclessard5400 3 жыл бұрын

A meeting of two great minds. What a delight. I just can have enough of this. Thank you Lex.

@GamingBlake2002 4 жыл бұрын

Never knew about this guy.. great episode!

@Gi-Home 4 жыл бұрын

You keep hitting the ball out of the park, great interview! Great guest and as always great interaction between the host and the guest. Thank you.

@remixisthis Жыл бұрын

Love the way he thinks and talks. No bs, straight to the point, and able to apply first principles and analogies immediately. Always locked in sharp thought. Makes the conversation better by challenging Lex with no ego

@anjishnu8643 4 жыл бұрын

Lex brought up this interview during his interaction with Scott Aaronson. Came here to have a look and god was this otherworldly. What an incredible person.

@RolanElizabeth Ай бұрын

Who's Scott Aaronson

@caractacustube 4 жыл бұрын

Gems. Thank you Jim Keller, and Lex for making this happen.

@TheShanoGamerPlays Ай бұрын

"If you constantly unpacked everything for deeper understanding you'd never get anything done, and if you don't unpack understanding when you need to you'll do the wrong thing." - Jim Keller This man is truly a treasure.

@PRASAD54321prasad 4 жыл бұрын

It's super fun listening to him. I was wishing this particular conversation to be as long as it can get, while listening to him.

@basicallyeveryone 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I had a dad like him to talk about stuff like this.

@RolanElizabeth Ай бұрын

Be that dad

@tiberiumihairezus417 4 жыл бұрын

A great review of Electronic Calculators university course, and beyond. Great, great video. Thank you so much for the content you are providing us.

@mkjyt1 3 жыл бұрын

I am glad i found Jim Keller!

@huguesviens 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing interview ! It s been a long time that I was so mesmerized by the such a deep understanding of one craft, and what a hell of a craft. Thanks a lot for that one.

@Buel426 4 жыл бұрын

"when someone cuts you off in traffic your brain has theories about why they did it" I'm dying lmao

@maymayman0 20 күн бұрын

I wish. Mine only has 1 theory and its not very generous

@marzx13 4 жыл бұрын

Great Podcast, one of my favorite episodes. Love the analogy between chip architecture and team and corporate structures. So cool to have the opportunity to see Jim explain his work at this level.

@legendhasit2568 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for organising this Lex. I’ve listened to this many times now and it has changed my thought processes. I listened to this on day one of release and am listening again now. Thank you, keep up the great work 👍

@ST-fk3jz 4 жыл бұрын

I think this is the best episode you've made. Industry professionals are so grounded and so full of useful information

@oscwolf1 4 жыл бұрын

This has been the best conversation that I have had the pleasure of listening to.

@RolanElizabeth Ай бұрын

Yeah he's practical, he's simple yet knows a vast knowledge about computer which weirdly ties to other part of human life

@seanfitzgerald4207 4 жыл бұрын

1:23: "I imagine 99% of your thought process is protecting your self-conception, and 98% of that is wrong."

@antoinepageau8336 4 жыл бұрын

I actually laughed out loud when he said that. I could’ve watched five hours of Jim Keller interviews.

@Arcticwhir 4 жыл бұрын

1:23:10 correction*

@johnboykin3128 4 жыл бұрын

Ha. He described liberalism

@johnalley8397 4 жыл бұрын

@@antoinepageau8336 Agree. Outstanding mind.

@Wardoon 4 жыл бұрын

".....I don't know if I got the math right. It might be 99.9%."

@IproCoGo 4 жыл бұрын

It is so enjoyable to learn how creators think. I’ll spend another hour, thirty listening to this podcast again. Thank you!

@kadenabet 4 жыл бұрын

My favorite interview of Friedman's yet. So direct, so simple.

@hyperTorless Жыл бұрын

It's kind of amazing how bad is Lex at interviewing. He doesn't really listen to his guest (as you can tell by the remarks he makes right after he's done explaining something), ask vague and uninteresting meme questions ("artists VS engineers", "meaning of it all", etc.) and even dare to correct his guest when the guy has 100x more experience in the industry than he does. "We can disagree on this" ? Well no, you don't disagree like that with a man like Jim Keller, right to his face. Your position should be "maybe this highly-accomplished guy knows more than I do". For the whole time, Keller was being very eloquent and ready to admit when he didn't know everything. Many of his analogies were extremely useful to me. Brilliant guy!

@Magician3388 Жыл бұрын

I just watched this interview and comparing it to his recent stuff, Lex has really improved. In this one, he does a really poor job imo of listening to Jim and pushing back in an arrogant way. I was almost appalled at how he handled this one.

@DagnirGlaurunga 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, that one was so much fun, great work!

@pwells2389 3 жыл бұрын

Lex, this session was one of the most fun I've watched. You're body language and expression at 1:28:18 pretty much sums it all up. Just wonderful. Thank you.

@mpetry912 2 жыл бұрын

golly. this is one of those discussions that has so much in it that I had to repeat several sections to get a full understanding. thank you Lex, well worth the time.

@mradminus 4 жыл бұрын

How did you manage to get Mr Keller on the show, one of my biggest heroes all time! Keep up the great work Fridman!!

@blackcoffee. Жыл бұрын

JBP likely.

@utubeubi 4 жыл бұрын

As a software guy, I’m just stunned. Thank you Lex

@DamianReloaded 4 жыл бұрын

Another great interview! I need to thank this man for having being part of the engineering of my beloved hobby and profession! Thanks for the passion and the hard work Jim Keller!

@blind_neighbourhoodNerd 4 жыл бұрын

Had to listen twice to take it all in. Excellent chat. Thanks so much this podcast

@davidwallace1594 4 жыл бұрын

Lex, Jim Keller gave you a run for your money! One of your best interviews!

@SomeTechGuy666 4 жыл бұрын

Jim Keller is a fascinating guy. He is the Dave Grohl of high tech.

@dkutagulla 2 жыл бұрын

Jim Keller reminds me of my Computer Architecture prof Dr. Yale Patt. most of topics Jim covered in this video were taught to me by Dr Patt inn his undergrad computrer Arch class at UT Austin circa 2000. Thank you for this video. Thank You Dr Patt. Thank You Jim, Thank you Lex.

@georgemccaffery3260 4 жыл бұрын

Very good episode, Lex. I hope Jim comes back and does another show. I get the feeling there's more you two could covered.

@Oblivic 4 жыл бұрын

Lex you’re a treasure. And Jim thanks for one of the best talks I’ve heard on this channel so far.

@boggers 4 жыл бұрын

This may be the best interview I have ever seen.

@chris_1337 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, Jim is great. This is one of the best episodes yet, Lex.

@kentvandervelden 4 жыл бұрын

This interview is absolutely amazing! One of the best

@robv3872 3 жыл бұрын

This is probably my favorite podcast! This due rocks lol Please have him again!!

@soareverix 4 жыл бұрын

This is probably my favorite episode so far. Very well done. I especially loved his take on human satisfaction at 1:18:47: doing complex work fast and effectively makes the human brain happy. Really interesting thought, and something I'd love to learn more about :D

@cuulcars Жыл бұрын

That exchange about search was beautiful

@megapixeler 4 жыл бұрын

This video was great... It has been a long time since the last time I asked myself so many different questions one after the other. Very interesting topics and I liked how both of you are one step ahead of the obvious and someties don't even mention or refer to it.