Apollo Pro V7 Review: Is the Lexus of Escooters Near Perfection or Just Over Priced?

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Apollo has gone through 7 versions in hopes of making the Pro the perfect electric scooter. While it is near perfect, we found through our thorough testing that there was room for improvement.
In this review, we unbox, set up, walkthrough, do a speed test, go for a ride, and tell you what we love and hate about the Apollo Pro. We will also let you know who should buy the Apollo Pro.
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@Kitz419 2 ай бұрын

I have been waiting for this review! Thanks guys 🎉

@MyInnerPeace 2 ай бұрын

I think your mystery sound may be the drum brake cable spring.

@kteman 2 ай бұрын

Pro owner here. The creaking sound is from the front fork. Following procedure to loosen front fork side bolts, apply lubricant below, back and above will fix the sound.

@tm_bunny_peludito5065 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the videos yesterday I got my Apollo City Pro 2023 my height is 5.2 but the scooter is amazing the reason why I bought it was for daily use since I paid 350 a month for Uber and now I can go to work

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

Plus the City Pro is IP66 so you can ride it in the rain, and the battery is UL certified so you can legally store it in most apartment buildings/workplace bicycle storage.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

@michaelcharach 2 ай бұрын

Great review guys. I wish you would put these larger scooters next to a more standard sized one so the viewers could get a feel for just how large they are. They all look the same size on a video when you have nothing to compare them to

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. I went from an Apollo Ghost to an Apollo Phantom, and you kind of have to have a frame of reference. I'd like to see a visual on how large the scooter is compared to, say, the trunk of a car, across the back seat of a common car size, etc. Ground clearance is something that tends to go up, especially with 12" tires. Anyone who's ridden through parking garages will learn how to duck one way or another!

@THEAVERAGEGUY1983 2 ай бұрын

Definitely very nice scooter. I tested one of their versions last year at rider fest 2023 back In October. Apollo Definitely knows how to package their stuff way better than Segway and thats coming from a GT1 owner. I definitely will be picking up an Apollo Pro once i Pay Off my Inmotion RS Midnight which is another beast of a scooter. Great review as always guys. 😎👊👍

@ElectricWayGt2 2 ай бұрын

lmao you joking right ? i have the Gt2 and the pro v7 right there in the house and apollo is far behind segway in term of build quality ! ride experience ! and light years ahead in customer services ! i took them both for a quick spin yesterday back to back and apollo is slower in everyway, it doesnt feel safe at high speed at the second you take an incline or a turn due to the 'balloon' tires the app crash always iphone users get the update decades later than android . the battery they claim is so good is loosing its charge while sleeping where segway stay solid as a brick even a full month without touching it feel safe even at 110kmh like .. the only reason i have the pro its because its ip66 and i tought i would get it for christmass but hey thats an other story !

@THEAVERAGEGUY1983 2 ай бұрын

@ElectricWayGt2 if your talking about the Packaging like i stated in my comment, then no im not joking. The Packaging from Apollo is better lol. When it comes to ride quality, i cant say much about it other than what i experienced briefly during my quick test ride. As for speed woobles, like my $4,000 inmotion RS, not everyone is experiencing speed wobble but i did and did a mod recently to solve that problem. And i also recall saying this is coming from a "GT1" owner not GT2. 😅🤦‍♂️

@ShaggyRodgers420 2 ай бұрын

@@ElectricWayGt2yeah Apollo is great in a lot ways. Quality compared to the Segway is not one. Particularly to the GT2 (which is also nearly 1k cheaper)

@ElectricWayGt2 2 ай бұрын

@@THEAVERAGEGUY1983 we were talking between segway and the apollo pro since its the one in the clip just like you said 'their stuff is way better than segway' sorry line was to thin to read between .. but bottom line no apollo aint better than segway top tear to top tear .. okay apollo boxe didnt had foam roaming around in the box .. have you heard how many peoples struggle to do the first step ?! just to screw in the first 6 screws for the steam ? apollo just got a bestbuy distribution deal yeah they prolly going to do better but right now it aint it

@ElectricWayGt2 2 ай бұрын

@@ShaggyRodgers420 apollo first sold their pro for 4,999.99$ cad and segway Gt2 5.499.99$ cad am sorry but if you play in these tear you aint 500$ off just like if you sell something saying its top tear and you asking the same top tear price as the competitor .. you should be at the competitor level .. now am just feeling like am funding their next big thing ! 6-7 ? gen of backers for the pros .. its nice i like it .. but now that ive ride it 3500$ would be more it imo . on the pro you can ajust the torque but we been warn by the HQ to not go over 6 out of 10 if we in ludo mode or it can damage the rotors and what not .. wtf ? why did you leave us the way to play with it if we can break it by doing so ? i went 110kmh with my gt2 and temps didnt exceed 45 degres 😅 it really really aint suposed to be compared in the same tear !

@khanrides 2 ай бұрын

This scooter would be perfect with a 60V battery and higher amp controller so it could reach 40mph faster. Most riders don’t gun it to 40 every single time but having the option is great especially if you turn onto a wide road with a high speed limit and no bike lanes.

@cooperschiavo836 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. At this price point I’d expect a 72v

@Asghaad 2 ай бұрын

@@cooperschiavo836 72v, hydraulic disk brakes and dual hydraulic adjustable suspension ... specs of this thing scream lower mid class but the price they are asking for is like if it was the best...

@SiouxSavage 2 ай бұрын

NGL I think this is gonna be my next escooter!! My Dualtron City isn't the fastest scooter either and I love my City!! The power off sound is dope AF!! That sound kinda made my decision haha

@femacampetiquettefordummie6979 2 ай бұрын

52V battery? 44 MPH max speed? Perhaps Apollo should have called it the "Semi-Pro". Apollo still has to go back to the drawing board and raise the bar to achieve a true Pro flagship scooter.

@VelocityLP 2 ай бұрын

i feel like you're conflating "pro" with something like "sport" or "hyper". professional is a word that has nothing to do with being a speed demon

@yournumberonepal 9 күн бұрын

I don't know if the materials and design justifies the price when the performance metrics are what they are. Even Segway, with their GT2 saw the writing on the wall and you can find it at $2500. I know both aren't chasing the top performance numbers, but to command premium pricing you need to be in the ballpark.

@BurnoutEmperor 2 ай бұрын

I think you missed the fact that this scooter allows you to charge and hold your phone on the main screen, sort of replacing the middle screen. Also I would compare this to a G Wagon😂 Expensive, but insanely luxury.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Good comparison with the G Wagon!

@BurnoutEmperor 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged thanks!

@AuthenTech 2 ай бұрын

Hey! Dalton signed a non-compete, you're in big trouble! ;)

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Andrew says he's jumping ship to your channel. Dalton is starting to cramp his style since he's younger and willing to break bones for the channel.

@nhcs2k 2 ай бұрын

I wish this model would be possible in Germany with all the lights and the power. It screams perfection to me.

@AustinF516 2 ай бұрын

I have the scooter. When you have the throttle all the way down it brings you to 39-40. When you hit 40 and are cruising at 40 for a few seconds, release the full throttle pressure for a brief moment. Then hit the throttle all the way. It will then accelerate to the 43-44mph.

@FofXequalsYnot Ай бұрын

But dats too fast in London …🤨

@aptrm80 2 ай бұрын

This is a really nice Scooter 🛴 I have a Kukirin G3 Pro😢 but wish I had paid the extra for the RS5 MAX. Seeing this Scooter it would nice to see a comparison video between the Apollo Pro V7 & the Roadrunner RS5 MAX as this video really has me thinking 🤔 great video 👍🏼

@jasontwilliams 2 ай бұрын

Loving mine!

@lakeeconcepcion4260 2 ай бұрын

just awesome...apollo escooters are a legit investment...i saw one and it looks solid...awesome review guys!TC all time.

@chronicalcultivation 2 ай бұрын

Calling any vehicle an investment is just plain stupid

@DT-Nicky 2 ай бұрын

Ahhh it the best of an original design. They have come along way and it is a marvelous scooter to ride even if it is not a hyper scooter. Well done @Apolloscooters

@HikerToo 2 ай бұрын

Huge difference between the Phantom and PRO is the battery. The Pro has a new Samsung 21700 battery, the Phantom 1,2,3.,4 all have the same generic battery that cost $900 to replace at Apollo. Mine went bad after 2 summers/6K miles. I bought a Kaabo Mantis King GT with the 60v Samsung for $2K

@mojakk27 2 ай бұрын

how do you connect your tunes to the pro? can't seem to figure it out. great review~!

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

You have to go to your Bluetooth settings on your phone and pair it with the scooter.

@roadknight80vj 2 ай бұрын

Great review guys, worth waiting. Did you find the deck length adequate? It looks a little cramped for space. Also Give us the update on the front creaking noise when found.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

I find the deck to be comfortable due to the nice kickplate angle, but only have a size 10.5 shoe. I could see people with larger feet preferring a larger deck. We were told the front part that is next to the suspension could be greased to alleviate the noise.

@richardmcmichael9329 Ай бұрын

Very honest and excellent critique…proper critical assessment….

@laez 2 ай бұрын

Lubrication of the front suspension and bearing got rid of that sound for me!

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

WD40's "white lithium grease" works well.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

We will give it a shot!

@laez 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged The silicone lubricant seemed to work best!

@PourAuthority 2 ай бұрын

I have the City Pro '23 and also have that creaking sound coming from near the front fender. I want to say its the wires running through the front rubbing against the stem under panel but it's annoying. Hopefully it doesn't lead to any issues.

@cheshire_ 2 ай бұрын

finally a review of the pro :) I think it's an ok scooter but their asking price is too much, especially since it's so close specs wise to their phantom scooter... so essentially you're paying over $1k extra for a new design and lights... and I regret my decision of not getting the phantom instead but some other downsides I've noticed after 2 months: -Suspension is too stiff for my weight(200lbs), I can feel every little bump on the road, comparing it to my Kaabo GTR it feels like riding on a cloud -Using the same awful folding mechanism, your life relies on a thin piece of metal to stay intact with all of the vibrations/bumps -We need a dust cover on the stem folding button, I'm glad you guys mentioned it As for the creaking noise, I had the same issue on my city pro and apollo recommended me to put lithium grease in the stem so I'd guess it's the same for the pro

@HikerToo 2 ай бұрын

@jakeanddar 2 ай бұрын

Nice Scooter! Hope you guys review Yume's Raptor. I was thinking of buying a Yume but not sure if their reputation or build quality is up their with some well known brands. Cheers!

@johnhigh2348 2 ай бұрын

Sound like it's out of space😮 what do you think the cameraman finally revealed

@andrewbarratachea 2 ай бұрын

Ive watched this too many times. I ended up buying. Cant wait till it gets here!

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

It’s a really sweet scooter!

@soul6782 2 ай бұрын

Finally you guy do a review on Apollo pro haha I have one too.

@theraid100 2 ай бұрын

Awesome review and about time AND the things you don't like are really a non issue IMHO. I do have one question for Apollo why do you have two scooters in your line up that go basically the same top speed ? so I do agree with Andrew it should go a little faster just to set it apart from the Phantom.

@americatheblind5820 2 ай бұрын

Like some things about this scooter, but 52v system, drum brakes, and rubber puck suspension in the back at this price? Have a Klima and think for the money it's probably the best option for the weight/price. Maybe a comparison?

@paradyme 2 ай бұрын

Not a chance Apollo would let them do that. Then people would realize it's a slower more cumbersome Klima with a $1500 lighting kit.

@RefinerSimilitude 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review guys. There are some thoughtful design elements I can appreciate on this like the center kickstand, the place to mount And charge your phone, and That large light upfront for a better visibility during the daytime, but that Segway GT2, though! I think it's about twice the acceleration at around four seconds to 30 mph, more than twice the adjustability in suspension with greater travel front and rear, what appears to me to be at least double the build quality and appearances, a more area to stand and for only $2500 right now. Personally I would rather use my Bose mini speaker. Speakers can be fragile. If or when the speaker membranes tear on that scooter, it might good place for water to get in.

@ElectricWayGt2 2 ай бұрын

i have a sony xb100 sligned on the gt2 work like magic but be carfull Gt2 dont go well with water.. had to buy the apo pro afterward

@rumdumpster390 2 ай бұрын

It's IP66, so unless you are riding it into a lake you should be fine.

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

Glad they put a latch lock for when it's folded. That was the main complaint from early-access owners. Why people would ever subject others to their music by blaring it from a scooter, though, jeeziss. Imagine a bicyclist having to endure some slob playing country music next to you in the bike lane. The tires are indeed amazing, but if you want a new tire or wish to keep one on standby, forget it - you'd have to buy another Pro. To this day I still don't know why anyone would use cruise control on a scooter. There are more glorious ways to expire. I can't actually think of a more dangerous option. One thing about the app that they haven't been able to do yet, is to allow each of the 3 gears to be fine-tuned re: throttle sensitivity. You can't have a separate throttle sensitivity for gear 2 & gear 3, for example. Sensitivity is universal for all gears except for Eco mode, which does it for sure, but at a pre-defined level. Throttle sensitivity set to 10 but you want something more sedate for a while? You have to stop, change it to a lower throttle sensitivity & continue. Want it aggressive again? Stop, configure it, continue. Can't dial anything custom in. Apollo call it custom, but all you can change is your regen rate (it's so gradual, why would anyone choose < full?), and limit your top speed. I'm also baffled why anyone would limit their top speed in ANY gear - why limit your speed? Want to conserve battery? Accelerate slower. Same software on the Apollo Phantom - which was what the Pro kind of started its life as. Same motors & regen braking, actually. The drum brakes are actually really good. You just have to wear them in. Regen will be your go-to in ever scenario except high speed emergency braking anyway, so the drum brakes are towards the intent on keeping the Pro waterproof. The whole thing about the Pro is reliability & low maintenance. Tires meant to last a long time, to not go flat, no brake pads to replace every few hundred km's, and if you want to clean it off, clean it like you would a car. Batteries are UL Certified, a standard that a lot of building owners are demanding PEV's meet if tenants own & store them in their apartments. None of Nami's scooters' batteries have this certification yet, but I'll bet you anything that's on their mind lately.

@Lucem2 2 ай бұрын

For scooters in this price range (over $3,000), it would be reasonable to expect at least four dedicated buttons on the handlebar for selecting riding modes, Cruise, and so on. I'm referring to a mere $5 control pad here! The Pro comes with a high-end battery, but does it offer battery charging limits? Unfortunately, it does not. Does it provide information on Wattage output? Such data can be useful for diagnosing issues such as brakes friction, under-inflated tires, and more. One issue that seems to be prevalent in these KZfaq reviews is a lack of critical analysis. It’s time to raise the bar, folks!

@me-hk4ic 2 ай бұрын

I might get this for the antitheft features

@CarsonBoyd 7 күн бұрын

My thought was, OK, the wheels lock up. It's still easy enough to lift and shove into a closed van that would dampen the sound. Of course, I'm guessing here.

@thefpvlife7785 2 ай бұрын

This is not a case of "You get what yo pay for". Based on the specs ... It's a Varla Pro with a Tuxedo at an exuberant price point.

@voxtek 2 ай бұрын

Same problems I see with most scooters, they make the deck so freaking short. And it needs more range, so a longer deck would take care of both of those problems. I will say however, its about time they added a center stand to a scooter, i've been calling for those for a while.

@andrewbarratachea 2 ай бұрын

I want to get this so bad. But I know theres gonna be a version 8. Maybe at that point ill get one.

@kteman 2 ай бұрын

Pro owner here. The creaking sound is from the front fork. Following procedure to loosen front fork side bolts, apply lubricant below, back and above on both sides will fix the sound.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@rickroberts4848 2 ай бұрын

Noise, Is it wires or plugs jiggling in stem?

@jellyfish5401 2 ай бұрын

Pls review the kugoo m4

@darrinyo-mamakimble7002 12 күн бұрын

The only thing I would fix on that is a bigger battery. 70 km an hour is plenty fast for a guy like myself, but I would really appreciate more range. I’m not sure if it is a possible, but I would also like the ability to get off-road tires

@Andrew714oc 2 ай бұрын

52v 😢 I like power! Wish it was at least 60v for the price! I get that it’s unique and comes with a bunch of cool bells & whistles but definitely not enough to pull me away from my Nami Klima Max!

@thomasmcmullen4523 2 ай бұрын

And why do they give tire size instead of rim size ? This one does have the center stand. I didn't know why all didn't come with. And give minimum range and speed.

@chronicalcultivation 2 ай бұрын

Funny, the battery spec is the same as the custom pack I'm building for the Ghost. 14S6P with 50S cells

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

I owned a '22 Ghost & my brother & I raced each other (Him, 165lbs, on the Ghost at P5 max acceleration. Me, 200lbs on the 2023 Phantom in LUDO mode). Both at 100% charge, same road, neck & neck. The Ghost is considerably faster to 50km/h than the Phantom, but the Phantom starts pulling away after 50, albeit slowly. I'm hauling about 35lbs more in gravy & ice cream, so we traded to make sure. Ghost STILL faster to about 45km/h before the Phantom took over. No comparison, the Phantom is better, but the Ghost is faster to 50, more nimble & a lot lighter. Loved the Ghost, but the first thing I did was get hydraulic brakes.

@mikehagquist5198 2 ай бұрын

Bushings last longer than bearings. Bearings are better and smoother but do not last longer. Bushings are maintenance free. Bearings will freeze up from water ect.

@InterventioN746 2 ай бұрын

They really should make a performance-oriented trim of this. Give it disc brakes, better display, higher top speed, and 60V system.

@ElectricWayGt2 2 ай бұрын

its call a gt2

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

@@ElectricWayGt2 GT2 has IP54, is 25lbs heavier, can't be folded to be put into a car trunk, and has smaller tires. It's faster to its top speed, but at that weight, it better be. Can't even ride the GT2 in the rain. Nice scooter for some I guess, but apples/oranges.

@fancypants6089 2 ай бұрын

Finally !!!

@jamessink3736 2 ай бұрын

With the Segway GT2 at $2500, I don’t see who chooses this for $1k more.

@Mattdoc210 2 ай бұрын

I couldn't even imagine paying 2000$ and up for a scooter I'm content with my wolf warrior x , I'll never understand how people use these daily

@CartoonWeasel 2 ай бұрын

I was looking at either that or the RS. Ended up picking the rs. More power, more range. I found the appolo nice but the rs wast just better overall for what i wanted. The apollo is good if you have to go to work in a suit. Put on your suit and go on with this scooter. If the apollo would've been 72v with faster speeds and range, i would've picked it.

@amandamelgar817 2 ай бұрын

Apollo Pro or YUME Predator, I want to speed and range, which one should I go for?

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

If it’s about range and speed, the YUME Predator is what you’re going to want.

@maickatienza3531 2 ай бұрын

Finally!.❤❤❤

@CanakArgento 2 ай бұрын

52v 100 pounds and drum brakes .......$3500

@spiro5327 2 ай бұрын

Imagine what the price would be if it did have all the upgrades you wished for ?? Thanks 😢😊

@Culky 2 ай бұрын

My main criticism is the lack of disc brakes, and I suspect they chose drums for aesthetic reasons

@rumdumpster390 2 ай бұрын

As an owner, regen braking is strong enough for daily use. Recharging your battery slightly instead of wearing down your break pads. Drum brakes do fit the aesthetics, but they are also easier to maintain and last longer, and the fact that we are hardly using them makes it more user friendly.

@Asghaad 2 ай бұрын

@@rumdumpster390 dont expect regen braking to "recharge" your battery ... yes it puts some of the energy back into the pack but that amount is MINISCULE ... and tehre is absolutely NO way drum brakes are "easier to maintain" over disc brakes ... you have to take off and apart the wheel to service drums... to service disc brakes you loosen few screws and replace pads without ever needing to touch the wheels themselves ... and lastly you do know that ANY escooter can use "regen braking" right ? its not some super advanced feature of this specific scooter and just about every single high end scooter does have the capability - i know mine does and i had to turn it way down because it was way too agressive in default

@fumetsu-950 2 ай бұрын

Very unrelated question to this video, but this is you guy's most recent video so i hope i get an answer. Between a dual 500watt and a single 1k watt scooter, which one would be better for me if im around 125-130 kg guy and i wanna hillclimb frequently? The place i live at is on a hill and right now i have a ninebot clone with 1x 500 watt motor and it cannot carry me up.

@fumetsu-950 2 ай бұрын

And i was thinking on getting a G2 Max that has 1x 1000 watts, but i could find a dual 500 watt scooter probably for the same price as the g2 max if thats better for climing with heavy load

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Dual motors are better for hilly areas.

@Rabbitoh72 2 ай бұрын

That guy on the trail, if he was any more to the right he would of been riding through the bush 😂

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

🤣😂 We were hoping that he was going to ride in the bush because we needed 10 feet of space to safely pass him. Totally kidding. We weren't recording our initial interaction. You are seeing the part once we were able to finally pass him. He was riding in the middle of the path for 300 feet and we kept politely trying to tell him we were on the left, but he couldn't hear us.

@MrTigerStarX Ай бұрын

I feel like this scooter raises the bar, and I'm looking forward to a better price with competitive features.

@JulienChabanon 2 ай бұрын

This needs to cost half the price to be a good option!

@Wreevesjr 2 ай бұрын

I've had the Pro now for 2 months, and I also have that clicking noise. Would love to know what it is...

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

I think it's the Pro hanging up on your mother in law. They think of everything!

@kteman 2 ай бұрын

Pro owner here. It is from the front fork. By removing the protective coverings from the side bolts and loosening them, apply lubricant inside the opening top back and middle on both sides, the sound will be gone. I found that out by just emailing Apollo. I’d assume they’d answer you too if you just asked them. Though, they shouldn’t have let this squeaky fork get through, they should have applied lube themselves, a couple rushed pieces similar to the back latch button which gets stuck with sand too.

@Krispy416 2 ай бұрын

For the price battery should have been 60v 35ah

@mooncake8254 Ай бұрын

16:12. He speeks facts. The i came from segway max g2. It was good. The fender its awful. Upgraded to apollo city's pro 2022 model. It rides like a dream. Gonna get the apollo pro, 2025 -26 if they come out an even more refined version. It's about experience. If i want to go super fast. Get a motorcycle. Or a car at this point. I stand by them.

@RyanMah34 2 ай бұрын

I don’t think it needs to be faster but more range would’ve been appreciated.

@GearWave 2 ай бұрын

what math do you do to figure out the charge time?? I could google it and find the answer. Just curious to how you calculate it so fast. Thanks for sharing. I have this scooter and commute with it everyday. Its a fun scooter. ENJOY!!!

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

We are happy to hear you are loving it. The math is done by taking the amp hours divided by the charge output. This scooter is a 30Ah battery divided by 4.5 amp output so it is 6.67 hours to charge from empty to full.

@GearWave 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged I love it... Thank you..

@user-jo5ng7le3b 2 ай бұрын

Im curious as to why Apolllo doesnt make a 60v scooter for their flagship, 52v is kind of underwhelming.

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

I think it was a weight thing. Not that they can't keep it < 100lbs with a 60v system, but I think they're holding back on top speed in favor of reliability/longevity. I contemplated the Nami Burn-E2 Max & I do respect 100km/h, I find on 11" tires, that's over the top. I would expect at least 80km/h, though. Not sure why the guys in this channel couldn't hit the top speed, I've always been able to get about 10km/h faster than top speed on mine, without using LUDO mode. LUDO isn't a big deal, but if you're riding with a lower battery (~30%), it comes in handy to give you the torque you need.

@Rezak877 2 ай бұрын

Titaone X10 is beast.

@brianhearden459 Ай бұрын

I love my Kaabo Mantis King GT but, the kick stand is lame; that one is better. I have had to fix a few things and the brakes are not that great as they need a lot of attention. My bicycles and ebike brakes never need anything but new pads on occassion. I had been thinking that disc brakes would be nice from a maintanance standpoint but I dont know..

@UNKNOWN-un6nz 2 ай бұрын

thanks distance please?

@AndyCartwright 2 ай бұрын

I have this scooter and I feel like the creaking noise is coming from the spring in the front. Really nice scooter though.

@Andrew-vt4jt 2 ай бұрын

What version do you have of the Pro?

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

You have the creaking too?

@AndyCartwright 2 ай бұрын

Yes, it seems to creak about halfway through the front suspension travel. I have the v7.

@kteman 2 ай бұрын

@@AndyCartwrightyes. It can be fixed by lubing the sides of the front fork, better done by loosening the side bolts after removing their covers.

@Patriot36 2 ай бұрын

15:56 Hey "ninja" you have a fairly sophisticated following at this point, with way more veterans that you have noobs saying: "for a lot less money you can get a faster scooter." That's not the complaint however. You just showed us a $3500 scooter that fell 5mph short of its STATED top speed. Rather than making a big deal about a possible issue that hasn't happened yet, involving sand with the latch, I think you should have taken Apollo to task for the "ludicrous" speed shortcoming. Both of you just blew right over it and then offered and excuse later with the luxury car example. Furthermore, it's not only the issue with "how fast it goes" (top speed)... it's performance in general. When you factor in other things like acceleration, braking distance and range, it comes up short everywhere. As an off the cuff 52v example, I just took possession of a RS5 Max which beats the V7 to 30mph by 2.2sec and to 40mph by 5sec while out braking it by several feet. The V7 is also out-ranged by the RS5 Max's 1664Ah LG battery. Not implementing disc brakes is inexcusable despite the reliability advantages. After all, with regen brakes that work so well, you're disc brake pads aren't going to be a big wear issue anyway but the best possible stopping performance is there if you need it. To a veteran scooter guy like myself, the V7 is a sexy, high quality, flop, unfortunately. Could it be attractive at $500 less? ...possibly. The issue is that you have models like the Nami Klima Max that come in at $2700 and perform like a Ferrari, being faster, quicker accelerating, shorter braking, longer range, 19lbs lighter, more refined suspension and with it's own signature look... not unlike Apollo with it's own signature look. Do I like the look of the V7 more, yes but having the edge in appearance can't overcome all of the shortages in other areas... even apart from the price differences.

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

I know 3 people who have the Pro & they've all had theirs going > 80km/h. I have a Phantom with a top speed of 63km/h, mine's been to 71km/h without being in 'ludo' mode. They must have had the top speed limited, which it likely is by default. Not that the Pro is a rocket, it could be a better performer - but it's not a 'performance' scooter - it's about low maintenance, worry-free riding. Nothing like a Klima for acceleration @ that price & I think the Namis are much prettier. Hydraulic brakes are effective for sure, but I've got Nutt hydraulics on my Apollo Phantom & only use them for high speed emergency braking. Regen is just so much better for all except unplanned stops at high speed. Once you wear the drum brakes in, they'll lock up just fine if that's what you want. Yeah, hydraulics are the best - but you don't get the scraping of dirty brake discs or have to replace the pads as often. Depends what you want - but everyone I spoke with who ended up buying a Pro admits to liking the drum brakes. The batteries having UL Certification will be a big deal soon, especially for losers like myself who live in apartments not houses. None of Nami's lineup has UL cert'd batteries. Most people don't care, but that was the main reason I'm not getting a Klima. The LUDO feature isn't that much of a boost, I got my top speeds on my scooter in regular mode - LUDO comes in handy when you're low on battery & need torque - the controller tells the battery to send more torque to make up for it. I never found LUDO to help to increase any top speed. The Pro will definitely hit 80kmh (50mph) & not only downhill. 300lb rider ain't touching that, and wind can affect top speed. I'm telling you stuff you know already - but there's always a tradeoff. I like the 12" tires, I like the IP66, but for $4300 CDN, I'd like more acceleration/range. The Klima is faster yeah, but it's only 3lbs lighter than the Apollo Pro (90lbs vs. 93lbs).

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

These are all very good points. We were able to get the scooter up to 45 mph after messing with the settings, so we didn't focus on why our first speed runs didn't hit the 44 mph top speed. There are definitely a lot of other options out there for those looking for speed and longer range, but there are few scooters with the same type of design and features. The Segway GT2 is probably the closest in design and build quality, but also falls short on top speeds and battery size. The RS5 looks like a nice scooter but we will not support Roadrunner due to them threatening to sue us for stating in our LS7+ review that it was marketed as the fastest non racing scooter, even though it was on their website. We have also had other issues with Roadrunner but it could end up being a novel if we wanted to air it all out. The biggest issue we have is they are faking positive reviews by having family members and content creators make them to counter their negative reviews. They pick and choose who they want to help and it is solely based on the owner, Dale, and if he likes how you approach him.

@Armed_And_Dangerous 2 ай бұрын

The sound is coming from the suspension You can spray a little bit of WD-40 on it

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

We wouldn't suggest using WD-40 on anything. It is a water displacement spray which will dry things out eventually and attract dust. Lithium grease is a much better choice. Apollo told us the noise actually comes from the part right next to the suspension.

@Armed_And_Dangerous 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged ok

@greenwave819 2 ай бұрын

I'd go with SegwayGT2 if I wanted a Lexus type scoot in this price/size range.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Why?

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

It's faster accelerating, but its top speed is almost the same, you can't ride the GT2 in the rain (IP54 is not rain safe) unless you want a smoldering battery, it's got smaller tires, won't fold up to be transported, and it's 25lbs heavier. Pro could be a bit faster, but it's still a 'scooter'. GT2 is MASSIVE, cumbersome & looks like a Tonka toy.

@aleXtreme_ 2 ай бұрын

As an apollo city pro owner, I can tell that within 500 kilometers of use everything will start doing weird sounds. Eye quality is there but that's all about it

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

What other noises are you hearing?

@aleXtreme_ 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged Front and rear wheel make noises as they rotate, like something rubs, seems internal. Stem is unstable as it doesn't secure at the folding mechanism 100% there is some noticeable play. Lastly, motors started making weird noise on acceleration, it's loud compared to first days.

@jamescashmore1452 2 ай бұрын

@@aleXtreme_ that scooter cost money and you ah e all thsose isseues wow , i just bought a new scooter 60v EVR , front fork hydraulic suspension , first day i go it the display screen was faulty would not switch back on after only turning on once, i got a replacement sent out as was a known fault was not sorted before seller sent it too me , then day 2 the suspension went loud AF just squeaking , now has rust not even 3 months old , one point i could not fold my scooter , i get water up my leg i the rain its rated ip66 but get me soaking wet ??? will buy a fender for it that actually works , apart from them issues and it not having launch mode like it first did and the tracking app not working , all is great with the scooter goes 55mph i paid 1400 pounds 2 years warranty

@skoolynugenator1802 2 ай бұрын

Crazy that a Onewheel GT-S is only a few hundred bucks less.

@Astimar. 2 ай бұрын

This versus Segway GT2 ?

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

The Apollo Pro for the aesthetics, lighting, and regen braking. The GT2 for the acceleration, larger deck, transparent OLED display, and cockpit.

@Asghaad 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged and now something a bit harder - this or Teverun Fighter Supreme 11" as they are about the same price cattegory 😁

@kevinkiprono6916 2 ай бұрын

Check the ristretto 512

@davidhunternyc1 2 ай бұрын

At 11:46: You: Calling 911... 911: "What is the emergency?" You: "My scooter was just stolen!" 911: 🤣

@RANDOM-zc2bs 2 ай бұрын

Premium scooter with drum brakes 😮

@Asghaad 2 ай бұрын

dont forget the rear solid suspension and tiny battery ...

@user-zr4df2kn9x 2 ай бұрын

I would like to see faster acceleration. Nami still makes the best scooters.

@jamessink3736 2 ай бұрын

Except when the stems break and don’t do a recall.

@user-zr4df2kn9x 2 ай бұрын

@@jamessink3736 that goes for all manufacturers.

@CrabbyPattydelight 2 ай бұрын

Ide do without the Bluetooth speaker and just attach a minirig speaker

@Byftpup 2 ай бұрын

My one wish is not for a super fast scooter, I want longevity. so a big a battery is a dream.. I am worried about the brakes..but would I buy this.. Yes for the very reason it's designed for luxury..

@Chad-Giga. 2 ай бұрын

The fact that Tesla doesn't make and sell scooters is luda

@ImmortalDuke 2 ай бұрын

Needs more smooth surfaces. Looks like dust collector

@davecook81 2 ай бұрын

💯‼️💙

@alexp9379 2 ай бұрын

The Pro cockpit looks like their entry level scooter. How is this a Lexus?!😆

@kteman 2 ай бұрын

Sometimes simplicity is a good thing.

@thomasmcmullen4523 2 ай бұрын

Anything that cost over a thousand dollars better be inclosed and have a heater and radio and be able to drive through water and be visible !

@user-iw4ty3jx9m Ай бұрын

Okay boomer

@mobettaspice 2 ай бұрын

It goes as fast as the Apollo phantom.

@NunchucksHabit 2 ай бұрын

Slightly faster, but not by a lot. My 2023 Phantom hit 71km/h in regular mode (LUDO doesn't really help top speed when you're at 90%+ battery charge).

@mobettaspice 2 ай бұрын

@@NunchucksHabit you’re absolutely right about that. I have a Apollo phantom too. I know it’s capable of hitting 43 mph but I also noticed at 37 mph the front wheel vibrate.

@ecod7r 2 ай бұрын

premium at 31miles range on top speed? No, wake up me when this range is over 60miles. that could be possible with version 12.

@eBoard3R 2 ай бұрын

⚡️🤟🏽🤙🏽🤟🏽⚡️

@matthewm7666 2 ай бұрын

About the same price as a NAMI Blast Max. Which to me looks like a much better scooter.

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

We think the Apollo Pro looks better but understand why some would like the NAMI Blast look.

@mcraven747 2 ай бұрын

Dem ninja’s over there at Apollo are trippin’! You can literally buy THREE Punk Rider Pros for the price of ONE Apollo Pro. And say what you will, but look at the overall value score on the Ultimate Scooter Comparison Tool; the numbers don’t lie…

@Nathan-is7li Ай бұрын

i'll stick to my Yume X11 pro

@kuyajayyoutubechannel5389 2 ай бұрын

Looks like punk rider pro

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

It is more the other way around. Apollo Pro had the design first and Punk Rider Pro designed their scooter to look like it. Both great scooters, but the Apollo Pro has a better design and build quality.

@kuyajayyoutubechannel5389 2 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged yah I prefer punk rider for budget but if i have big budget I'll go to Apollo pro I hope punk develop their new unit..

@anthonyrodgers6613 2 ай бұрын

Shud do a pro super 72v for that price...

@beerzerker8359 2 ай бұрын

It is certainly a really nice scooter, but for what you are paying, I feel like you should get a bit more. If the price was about $500 USD cheaper, it would certainly be a better value. At a regular price of $5000 Canadian pesos, I can definitely get a lot more scooter for my money from other brands.

@christophehofmann8546 2 ай бұрын

Just 52V batterie it's Bad news

@idrissamorehouse322 25 күн бұрын

The small battery is a super disappointment for the price :( Alot of us who arent speed freaks still need good batterys for distance and power against wind and hills

@mikehagquist5198 2 ай бұрын

My Apollo Go make that same sound.

@groesbeck 2 ай бұрын

my GT1 you guys reviewed a while back, costs $1,499 looks and runs fantastic, I can purchase 2 of them for this single Apollo…….NOT

@Jaco000b 2 ай бұрын

GT1 is a total joke, seriously. You get what you paid for. With its shitty single motor, it's as big and heavy as a motorcycle, and it's hands down the slowest and has the worst performance compared to its competitors. And let's not even get started on its tiny battery...

@groesbeck 2 ай бұрын

and the scooter YOU use on a daily basis is……….