I'm a state police officer higher than the patrol unit and In SD from what I know and I'm an officer of the law you can ride them on the boardwalk but you cannot be going too fast for the risk of injury. That lady lied and there is no city council stuff. However, one fact is it's prohibited to ride on the beach as it's a major hazard plus it can blow sand. But this isn't enforced ethier. Also, i wouldn't ride them on sand ethier because its close to water . NGL i use my onewheel xr all the time on work and patrol area its fun af. especially when I'm off duty. lmao its actually prohibited to enforce fake laws so she is actually doing smth wrong

I am a SD native. That lady straight lied to you. You can ride them on the boardwalk. The only regulation is on the speed that you can ride on the boardwalk. Keep doing what you are doing. Love the channel.

This is very much like drones. Operators ruin it for others by being careless and just not gaining the correct abilities to operate devices safely.

The problem is the rider not the scooter

FYI - This lady is totally wrong, she could not give you a ticket. And if she did, you could easily get it dismissed. Per California Vehicle Code 313.5, a Onewheel is defined as a electrically motorized board and is allowed in bike lines, on trails and on the sidewalk. It is not considered a motorized device because it is under 1000 watts. This state law controls unless there is a specific city ordinance superseding it, and San Diego has no such ordinance. I've confirmed this with the San Diego Police Department Traffic division and with the City Attorney's Office. I've had to explain this a few times to different city employees who've tried to kick me off certain trails.

Cyclists go faster than me sometimes when I'm on the trails. Yet, because they're non-motorized they can ride the trails. It's unfair. Also, more places are starting to ban electric vehicles in California such as in Venice Beach, in Los Angeles, along the beach trail.

"These aren't new laws" *Realizes that makes him right* "I mean, these aren't old laws"

Dude you’re awesome. Great way to gain information while educating her. Thumbs up bro.

For about as long as I've owned a Onewheel, I've imagined that PEVs would go through the same things as drones. It's a matter of when vs if unfortunately. All we can do and hope for is an impact and result that will be satisfactory for both sides. Laws started with the boosted boards, and things have been escalating sinse. This is a benefit of living in middle of nowhere. Never been to a big city with these rental scooters. I've read about the issues that have come with them. The idea of dockless public scooters immediately sounded ridiculous to me. So first off for ideas & solutions is to: 1. Ban Dockless rentals. A usage fee that is refunded on return to the dock to help encourage returns or other reward (return) or penalties (no return) 2. PEV license of some sort required for street use. If helmets were required, shouldn't that then also cover motorcyclists too? Don't see that happening, so that's why license of some sort may be better route. (further details on classes and form of identification is a deeper almost separate topic) 3. Bike lanes (and trails) should be open to all personal vehicles, electric and not (bellow a certain weight or class so as to not allow motorcycles). Some cities don't allow PEV on bike lanes, this seems really silly to me. 4. PLV (Personal Light-Weight Vehicle) lanes should be added into all new road construction and added to old existing roads where possible to accommodate this new growing trend.

Instead of just banning skateboards or scooters, how about banning cars and motorcycles? If injuries are the reason for banning, fair is fair, right?

Please give this a read. At the end of the day its all about safety and safety can be an expensive cost. The reason we have roads and speed limits is because cars are capable of going speeds that can injure people therefore they need an area that only they can use. In New Zealand (Idk about other countries) We have 'cycle/bike lanes' which is essentially a path that bikers and skateboarders are allowed to use in order to reduce the risk of hitting someone on the footpath. We also have specific beaches and certain times that your allowed to take cars, bikes or boards onto the beach. Personally I love riding my electric board but when you ride something that has a potential speed of 30kph it's obvious that you shouldn't be riding in a heavily populated area where people walk. You wouldn't ride a motorcycle on a pedestrian walkway, I don't care if people say its not a motor, the ONLY difference is that ones loud and ones quiet if anything its more dangerous. If it's capable of speeds faster then a humans reaction then it shouldn't be riding on the same path. Imagine how bad you'd feel if you were riding along and an elderly person suddenly appeared in front of you, you can wear as much safety gear as you want but someone's gonna get hurt either way. At the end of the day its not about banning things its a simple time and place.

i own a scooter as well but responsible with it. rentals to the general public... expect the worst, not really the scooter itself. edited to add: i wear a helmet, use lights at night and use caution. also, a state permit or license might help with some of the policy makers. seems like laws and irresponsible people are ruining outdoor tech for folks... drones as well as personal electronic mobility devices.

After reading through the comments I see a lot of negative reactions towards rental scooters, their riders, and the juicers and not nearly enough focus on the cause of all three: The scooter companies. They allow people to rent without helmets, they allow first time riders access to speeds they can't yet handle, they allow juicers to place the vehicles in illegal places and likely even encourage them to do so. The problem lies with the scooter companies and with jurisdictions that don't sufficiently regulate them. If there are technical reasons they can't make them safer then they shouldn't be allowed to roll out until those issues are solved. The main safety issues aren't really technical problems, they are political problems. We are not forcing these corporations to provide reasonable, verifiable, safety protocols (ie: helmet verification, riding tutorials that verify rider understands instructions with a quiz, reduced initial speeds, etc). Owners know what they are getting into so the best approach is going to be rental-specific PEV regulations that don't restrict owners from fully utilizing their vehicles within the confines of more generalized traffic/speed laws that apply to bicycles and other vehicles. We need less regulations on where and how we can ride PEVs and more regulation on what rental companies do and allow their riders to do. I think rentals should exist and if we are careful a safer future for pedestrians, riders, and commuters is possible. Even the chaotic and semi-dangerous rental scooter situation we have now is probably safer than the car miles those "reckless" renters may have otherwise used. Finding a way to get as many people on PEVs is still my preferred way forward.

Ban rental scooters plain and simple

Not hating .. just thinking out loud. Love Jimmy Chang and all you do. We can be as safe as we want and someone is going to get injured or kill'ed. It doesn't matter what it is your doing. Sonny Bonno Hit a tree skiing. Outlaw ski's? No. People get hit by cars on the sidewalk all the time. Outlaw cars and walking ? No. It makes me sick. 2 people get injured and lets outlaw. What? They don't want you to have any freedom anymore. Pack your stuff guys because the free USA is not free anymore. I had my minibike guys come to the local fair today. we rode all day yesterday and today all through the streets. Today at 6.30 a cop stops me 20 minutes before its over and says "Whoa whoa. You cant ride this here. Your going to kill someone" I was doing like 2 mph. 2? what? We were in a racing event in the Capac days fair this year in Michigan. A guy had a mini bike that has a 600cc snowmobile engine on it. It is capable of 125 mph. Ran it down the same street. No issues? Why? the law doesn't care about you or your rites. Cops don't know the laws. Its a sad world we live in. Be as safe and respectable as possible and this is the only answer.

They're testing the scooters here in Chicago. And while I was a huge fan of them. I've also come to the realization that they're a big problem for us OneWheelers.

San Diego should fine the scooter company every time a renter rides the scooter in the boardwalk. That'll make them change their tune.

Maybe rental companies can limit the speed to first time riders, the application tracks your rides so its possible. Also more bike lanes for these devices makes sense but that will take a long time to implement. Unfortunately the convenience of these devices will be limited because of a few bad apples. These devices all have GPS tracking, they should use that to limit how fast you are able to go in congested areas.

In SLC the scooters say to not ride on the sidewalk and to use the bike lanes on the street. I’ve never seen anyone ride on the street. They are always on the sidewalk. I ride my XR all over and it on the road and bike lane. If they allow a bike on a boardwalk or path then we should be able to ride there as well. We should be courteous to those around us an be treated just like a bike rider. Obey the same rules. On the street I use hand signals when I’m in traffic.

Great vid. I’ve seen people trying to double up on scooters downtown. I also just saw a bunch of tourists in Nuevo Vallarta on Lime scooters essentially playing on them and not using them for transportation. They were all either first time riders and/or inebriated. However, I understand some of the concepts behind these laws. It’s like how regular skateboards and rollerblades are often not allowed on some of these busy paths. It’s unsafe to combine such widely ranging speeds on one path - and its unpredictable whether you’ll have people that will all behave appropriately given the circumstances. Laws often need to be set for the lowest common denominator and it can be frustrating. Just my 2 cents. I could be way off base...

Jimmy great video this is Curtis here I live in Thornton Colorado I have an electric bike and for electric boards and electric scooter I obey all the laws appear have all my gear on I write down the sidewalk when there's no bike line rate in the bike lane and obey all traffic laws. We don't want any more negativity towards our transportation or just a way of haveng fun.

Set a law and give ticket to anyone violate the law but do not ban any of them. Just start forcing the law to use all the protection gear and be responsible rider.

Some people suck. But they shouldn’t ruin it for the people who don’t suck. Don’t ban anything. Just let people hurt themselves. It’s their destiny to do so anyways.

They're ruining it for us in Austin, too.

Great video Jimmy, and that lady life guard was cool. I was just down in San Diego and was amazed at the amount of rentals whether it be scooters, bikes, and everything in between. My local city just banned the birds. But I feel like these rental companies have bad practices. No pride of ownership on the battery changing people or they would tighten bolts and make sure they are safe to ride. I'd like to see these still for rent but out of local skate and bike shops. Then you have accountability of ownership. Thanks for sharing hope we dont become outlaws over this 🤙

What a reasonable lifeguard, wish all pub officials were like that.

Its just people who like to cry about everything ride it on the road then , Me and my friends had to do that with just regular skateboards because the cops said we couldnt skate on the sidewalks because we destory them LMFAO

I like gg e’s answer.... the problem is the rider not the device.... it’s also the answer for gun control. But seriously... drones are banned, electric mobility devices are banned why oh why? I know that’s the question and I don’t have a real answer. If we ask the government to step in they will put too many controls on them like drones. Why not just ticket or punish the behaviour? Because that too is subjective. Why doesn’t the manufacturers step in and lobby with us? Wouldn’t that help their bottom line? Because if these devices become banned, who will buy them? My issue is I want to use my devices, my drone and Onewheel, but I need practice before I hit the trails and if I am on my quiet street practicing I could be ticketed! So I am back to the gun control law, we shouldn’t ban the device, we should penalize the behavior!

• Ban electric vehicules from sidewalks. • Build more "bicycle" lanes. • Build more dedicated parking lots for rented vehicules. • Restrain power on rented electric vehicules to a non-motorised level. • Tax rented vehicules companies and use the money to build dedicated infrastructure or repair structures shared with other vehicules. • Force companies to hire "juicers" and to employ people with appropriate contracts. • Force companies to recycle damaged rented vehicules. • Help insurance companies to adapt their contracts. • Fine people breaking the laws.

Awesome video. I haven't really thought about this, but this video is a great thought provoking catalyst for discussion. I think a good place to start would be fair classification of devices, or ownership vs. rental, safety gear requirements etc. Not sure how any of it would be enforced without impacting our experience negatively. It's complicated!

Great dialogue and research with the Lifeguard! We need more leaders like you who do the work in educating and analyzing! Jimmy Chang for President!

Maybe the companies that provide public scooters should be held accountable

One way that could really help is if they issued out licenses (it still kinda sucks) like how Canada issues boat licenses. The way it is done; is by taking a short online course, that covers safety, common knowledge, and courtesy rules that everyone must abide by. Similarly, rules like this could be implied so that way people MUST have at least some knowledge on how to ride/operate PEV's.

These laws will cause a lot of citizens to stand up for their rights. Good for the op to talk it out intelligently, and remain cool 😎

Make a petition on change.org make it so rental scooters need to take a picture with a helmet on the rider and make them sign a form that says if they crash it was there responsibility for if they crash

I just had a head on collision with a cyclist riding my onewheel home from work. It was dark and we both didn't see each other. Luckily we both had helmets because we bashed heads HARD. The next cyclist I saw had no light and no helmet so it was a good thing it wasn't him coming round the corner.

I've never owned or been on a electric unicycle but after watching all those KZfaq videos on EUCs I am highly interested and ready to buy one, I've already contacted E-Wheels and I know what I want! but the current laws has thrown up a huge red flag for me. I haven't research the laws in-depth but If it's harder to change an existing law than to modify it and sense an EUC can't be registered or insured as a street legal vehicle, could requiring a rider to purchase a "EUC permit", similar to a fishing or hunting permit/license be at option?? I'm just throwing it out there because I haven't heard any options given..... hunters have rules to follow and if they break them they can be fined or have their permit/license suspended. we get to ride & the politicians get some revenue..... Oh, thanks for the video. You handle yourself real well with the officers. You didn't give attitude dipped in stank but you were able to have a respectful informative Discussion.

What a nice lifeguard. Wish cops were that nice.

As much as I'd like to think there is, there is no perfect solution. Even in a group of people who will use there devices responsibly there are going to be people who don't. You can enact laws that everyone can agree to and still someone will want to do their own thing because they don't want to be regulated. So enforcement becomes the only remaining option, clamp down on the people doing it wrong and make examples, which would make sens for people who own their devices but cops can't catch every rental so it causes issues when the one they miss causes an accident. Honestly I don't understand why they even let the Recharger people drop them off there if they aren't allowed on the beach. One of the rangers could just pick them up and drop them a block away, but because they're dockless someone will see it as littering, and vandalize them because they're generally pissed about them and/or fling them into a ally which creates even more clutter and littering, causeing the cycle to spread. It's really saddening to think about it.

I’d be open to a licensing system. Have to complete a practical course that proves you can handle your device in amongst pedestrians, sidewalks and roadways.

“Reasonable & rational” was an apt description of this interaction with a public official, & exactly what we need to promote among the e community in 2019. THANK YOU SO MUCH setting a GOOD EXAMPLE for other E-sport enthusiasts - who will inevitably find themselves in a similar situation at some point, unless we can gets the laws updated to reflect the new paradigm being brought on by these fantastic electric mobility devices that are starting to become more widely accessible to the general public. Anyways, nice job outta you here Jimmy! Keep up the good fight ✊

Can't afford a one wheel, but I am a roller skater who commutes to work. I think part of the solution is definitely the responsible vs irresponsible rental and skating and education. We need to make people see that these devices are not only for entertainment, they are environmentally friendly alternative means of transport. They reduce traffic, carbon emissions and instill a greater sense of spatial awareness in people which is proven to reduce pedestrian collisions. I live in Hong Kong, when we go skating on the promenades we often have to dodge kids being reckless on scooters and joggers staring at their phones. Yet the security guards yell at us for being unsafe. What you did with that guard was really good. I'd like to think that the next time she's talking to someone about this, she'll mention that you were responsible and well reasoned. Luckily, here in HK they can't make you take you skates off and go barefoot so we're always allowed to skate through.

But a normal scooter or bicycle is fine?? This is ridiculous...

Jesus Christ!!! What's next?? Can't drive a car on the street anymore because too many pedestrians are getting hit. (Which we know will never come to pass. Too much is invested in automobiles and is pretty much solidified) love how you dropped some serious knowledge to her.

She seems rather cool actually. I have had run-ins with enforcements officials that have been far less positive and conversational.

I've owned my own e-scooter for the past two years and always ride with a helmet with no incident. Now, rental e-scooters are introduced to parts of Chicago and there are great trails now that are banned, where they were never banned before the rentals arrived

Thank you for making a good name for our onewheel community :)

Here in the UK (Bristol City, England) I have yet to be approached by any kind of Security or Police enforcement. You obvious can't ride around in our shopping centres but I ride on our sidewalks and never on the roads. The cycle lanes are few and the ones that are here are poorly maintained. I have only ever fallen off of my OnewheelXR once, and that was because of tree roots growing under the path. I just ride with courtesy and carefully. I'm often riding in crowds of people traveling at walking pace. I only ever hit top speeds if I see a 100ft+ of clearance, even in the wet. My biggest issue is actually the ignorance of the cyclists - I stop at every crossing to look both ways, once behind and finally check my forward path. A cyclist on the other hand just flies over the crossing without a care, they try to overtake when it isn't safe and worst of all so many are self righteous. I've come across more negative cyclists than I have positive ones. You have to be INCREDIBLY careful and observent on these vehicles. At any point, the people in front could stop dead and you have to break in less than a second. You would be amazed at how many people don't see you coming, I've nearly stopped dead and been walked into by somebody coming my way... it's quite frightening to see so many people not paying their environment. Why not drive on the roads you ask? Potholes, ignorant and dangerous drivers, Cyclists, Buses, Pedestrians dashing out. I'd rather use the sidewalks and give the utmost respect to others using it, they come first as I'm the visitor on their familiar ground. I'm no genius but I have common sense and courtesy.

I believe UC Santa Barbara has banned the rental scooters from campus, but the verbage does not include personally owned electric vehicles. Seems to be a good model...

One thing that is very important in taking on these city ordinances is to make sure that you personally are NOT a scooter/euc/onewheel douc**. Obey all traffic laws, use the bike lanes, stay off the sidewalk, park in a bike rack (ada requirement), and most importantly, wear safety gear to the point that its ridicules. Who cares what you look like. Cops love to see the safety gear and saving yourself from an emergency room vist is not a bad thing. My helment, wrist guards and elbow pads have saved me. And I look good in a green construction vest. Also, take note how Jimmy Chang handled the lifeguard in Mission Beach. Niceness goes a long way. Cops will remember that stuff when they talk about this subject in their meetings.

Exactly. I went to the park today and wanted to practice riding “off-road” in the dry dirt walkways around the ballfields and in the grassy areas around the outfield. I took the time to ask the custodian if it was okay and he said yes, as long as I wasn’t on the playing field (then he asked about the Onewheel...turns out he was a snowboarder and I let him try my onewheel and didn’t falter even once on his first trial ride!!). So, I got permission and did a little Onewheel PR!

Bro!! This whole time I have been thinking your neighborhood looks so familiar and then when you told the security your from Denver I was like no way! I’m from Denver too but I haven’t lived there in almost 8 years since I joined the Army. I’m about to get my first onewheel soon and I have learned so much from your channel! Thanks for doing what you do! Keep riding!

I went to a camping ground recently where I was expecting to use my OneWheel and found out motorized hoverboards / scooters were not allowed. The reason for them was because it effects their insurance coverage because people using such devices get hurt on their property. This is not in an area where there are rental motorized personal transport. It is even self-owned equipment that through incidents have caused places that welcome bicycles to put up signs to disallow use of motorized personal vehicles.

I don’t live in a super metropolitan area. I’ve seen maybe one or two people riding an electric skateboards. So when I went out to use my rental Pint I immediately got called out for it. I checked the local laws before riding. The only places I wasn’t allowed to ride were on private property (duh), on very specific city streets and on the local beach boardwalk (where ONLY pedestrians are allowed, no dogs, bikes or skateboards). I was just riding around my neighborhood on the street, bc where the hell else am I supposed to go? A car stopped me and the woman driving told me to get out of the way of the cars and get on the sidewalk. I tried to explain why that wasn’t a possibility, given how bikes and skateboards aren’t supposed to be on sidewalks and what I had could go as fast as 15 mph. She didn’t have a response for that so she just swore at me, said she would call the police and drove off. No police ever showed up and I just went about my ride now in a bad mood because of this “Karen”. I think more people need to be educated about electric boards and scooters. It always surprises me how little people know about them. That they can go as fast as they can, how many there are, and how dangerous they can be if not regulated. In this new COVID world, fewer people are using buses, not everyone owns a car and a lot of us, myself included, are working from home. I’ve seen big spikes in sales of electric vehicles. I’ve been shopping for a use Onewheel for some time and 90% of the listing I see say they bought this because of COVID and simply decided it wasn’t for them. EVs are going to become more common and the laws need to catch up with the times. Drivers don’t own the road but few drivers seem to understand that. Even when I see bicyclists, cars will frequently act as if they aren’t there, speed past or just be obnoxious. It’s an awful mentality to have especially if god forbid you get into an accident with someone.

I am a sixty year old newb to the float life and your videos always resonate with me. La Jolla is my home turf and I just logged about twenty miles on a used Pint commuting to work. Riding on the beach at low tide is on my training list, and it is so funny to see May Gray and June Gloom in your beach cruise. I can imagine the drunks and fools at Pacific and Mission Beach but La Jolla is mellower and family friendly, I'm gonna ride there soon, illegal or not ! EDIT: just rode the beach for the first time at La Jolla shores from the pier to the Marine Street stairs at low tide near sunset. If it's still illegal it is not strictly enforced.

Great video Jimmy. I'm pretty new to your channel. I discovered you when i started to looking into the OneWheel about 2 weeks ago. I'm from Stockholm, Sweden. And we've seen a boom in the number of electric rental scooters this last year. Too the point where they are a growing problem in the city. The largest issue over here is that they are beeing dumped all over the place often in crowded places. They have already been restricted in certain areas of the city to prevent people dumping them in parks and tourist areas. There is currently no clear law over here on how or where they can be riden. But that is a hot topic atm. I just hope that this won't result in a general ban, but maybe tougher rules towards the rental scooters. Otherwise i fear my newfound dream of getting a onwwheel will be very shortlived.

Having respect for the city official resulted in getting some good information on how San Diego ended up with the laws they have. Now we just need more people to join you in calling for the same level of respect towards PEV owners (and even renters) and an honest look at how best to keep riders and pedestrians safe, instead of reactionary policies like the ones in San Diego. Great video.

I’m a little late to this conversation but there is a specific exemption in the California Vehicle Code (section 313.5) for electric skateboards. It specifically says an electric skateboard IS NOT a motorized vehicle. A OneWheel qualifies as a skateboard (based on the description in the code). This means you can ride on bike paths even if they prohibit motorized vehicles UNLESS a city municipal code “specifically” bans electric skateboards and even then, there has to be signs posted that advise you of the ban. Just because they ban scooters doesn’t mean the ban includes e-skateboards. Most cops and park rangers don’t realize this, they just assume the scooter ban automatically applies to e-skateboards. I would recommend that if you are stopped that you politely ask them to review CVC 313.5.

Same thing happened to me in Ocean City Md but what’s worse is they said I can’t even take it on the street as skateboards are band from the street. I live in MD and that’s not the case in the county I’m from. It’s weird how every city has their own laws, it makes it super confusing.

Hi @Jimmy Chang We had the same problem here in France. Now, the law as integrated us in the Road Code. We have a mandatory insurance, the Speed is limited at 25Km/h for public riding but we must stay under 6Km/h on sidewalks. Safety gear is not mandatory but strongly advised.

SPOT ON about untrained renters. NYC is considering legalizing e-scooters, bikes, EUC's, etc. But NOT legalizing the rentals. Smart and more nuanced approach. Fingers crossed that passes. Safe, law abiding riders are our best ambassadors to the pedestrian public. Thank you for posting,.

I own my own electric scooter and I live in Cincinnati Ohio, and basically since bird and lime have created the problem, I think they should be integrated into the solution. It may add a couple seconds to a commute, but basically ban all untrained riders on rentals and have some proof of ownership on a personal vehicle. A “trained rider” would have to be someone who has gone through a bird or lime sponsored seminar or online class that would teach them proper etiquette, technique, and regulations, and once completed, they could be given a code to link to their account on their respective app that would “license” them to use the scooter.

There’s always those that mess it up for everyone else....

I'm interested to understand how AB604 does not apply here, you are within all the legal expectations provided in this newer law pertaining to electric vehicles that was put in place in CA a couple years back for this very reason. According to this state law your doing nothing wrong, so not sure why its different here?

Hey Jimmy! Yeah, I took my OneWheel to one of my favorite beaches lately and kept on guard, riding slowly and safely around pedestrians and actively greeting park rangers on patrol. They didn't have restrictive laws there because rental scooters weren't really available there. Not a coincidence I think. My thoughts: Steer most discussion of solutions into banning and severely restricting the scooter rental companies. Make them accountable and maybe they'll be more responsible. The rise of these accidents is due to the rise of the accessibility of these scooters. And you are right...any PEV owner treats their vehicle with respect and learns how to ride it safely and properly because they are liable for their own device. We also want to make sure lawmakers don't go overboard and require us, like with cars, to have to register and have insurance. That would be a disaster and one of the things that would make me hang my OneWheel up for good.

The amount of excitement I got when you said you lived in Denver 😂

When I was in Paris the e scooters were a freaking life saver. Scooter companies simply need to have harsher fines for improper use. Helmet check, etc. If they break the rule, they get large fines charged to their card. And I think those articles about the death related injury were pumped out to make it seem more dangerous. Cars kill people everyday, theres no nan on cars. I wonder how they get away with banning e scooters. It's the thing. Its the dumbass riders that have no respect. Punish them.

Let me give you a tip, when someone starts talking to you about how you can't do something, pretend you can't hear them and just ride away. Save you a ticket next time.

Ridiculous to ban these new forms of technology that have the potential to transform the way we live.. Just because some idiot gets injured using something doesn't mean we should take it away from the rest of us.. There needs to be reform in the laws, they need to consider new ways to allow responsible adults to ride their devices safely without so many restrictions.. One way would be to restrict the use of these vehicles while under the influence. We don't needs drunks riding these things around public ways..

I just arrived last night here in the US from Portugal and Spain. The rental scooters like Lime and Uber bike rentals are big there. They were all parked nicely. I tried to travel light and didn't bring my helmet with me because I did not know what to expect. With my experience with electric skateboard, thank God I was safe. Lime does discourage people riding their scooters at the sidewalks, but it's not against the law. I've seen a couple EUCs in both countries and I wish I had it with me there.

limiting the speed on rental vehicles sounds like the best option to me - minimizes the safety risk from inexperienced operators while still promoting clean, quiet urban transportation.

In my city of Spokane we have Hoopfest this weekend and the city has an agreement with the rental companies to have their scooter shut down in a GPS area the event is going on to keep them away from the heavy foot traffic and games. I think if this option works it could be a great way for cities to regulate use areas they don’t want the rentals.

Yep, I have been waiting for something like this to come up. These electric scooters are nice, but renting them to anyone, anywhere - will lead to problems. And - it will be easier to disallow all electric vehicles compared to making special rules for different kinds. I really hope there will be som reasonable solution to this, as these devices are excellent for getting around - less noice, less polluting (perhaps not globally), and very fun. I dont know what to do if I am not allowed to ride my EUC.

Personally, I think there should be from a legal point of view a distinction between 'casual riders' and 'licensed riders', where a person could obtain a 'PEV driving license' similar to a motorcycle, and people with such a license, a license plate on their PEV (or if one cannot be reasonably attached, perhaps it could be placed on one's backpack?), and insurance, would be legally allowed to ride in places off-limits to casual riders, and would have higher speed limits etc. Without such a distinction, we are bound to have speed limits of around 12-15 mph for all PEVs, marking them as road-illegal, or outright banned in many places, and in case of accidents law and insurance companies will almost always blame the PEV rider, even if another person/vehicle was at fault. This way, people could still rent out PEVs, and if they have a license, they could ride a rented PEV like they ride their own, but if they don't have a license, they'd be limited to low speeds and pavement/bike lanes etc.

This sucks, hover boards ruined it for flying with my Onewheel, now rental scooters are going to ruin it for Onewheel riders in general... :(

I think we need to show statistics. Show the difference between the dangers of the rental scooters, how many people are riding and how many accidents there are. And also if any were preventable via saftey gear or experience or whatever. And then compare it to stats from people with bought vehicles. I feel like, even with our accidents, the rentals are far more extreme. Our vehicles last us a long long time. There's do not. There's almost no loss on their end to just toss their scooter in a river after using it. The service isn't set up like even the most basic bike rental service. Somehow we've managed to make a system worse than a manual bike rental shop. We need to make a case that PEVs and rentals are different worlds and need to be judged and treated differently

Ur comments r spot on and it’s sad how the laws have lumped all electric vehicles together. I visited my sister in San Diego probably 4 years ago and road the lime scooters around and it was a great way to travel and see the city. But we were also respectful and careful unlike a lot of other people we saw riding them disrespectfully & who apparently have ruined the potential of these forms of transport in the past few years.

Ridiculous! Injuries caused by bicycles and cars is much higher than that of the Onewheel or any personal electric vehicles. But, you can be sure bicycles and cars won't be banned anytime soon. Let's not even talk about the fact that Heroin is LEGAL in the city of Seattle. Maybe we should start with that issue before worrying about personal electric vehicles. I love my Onewheel! Keep riding :)

I’ve been stopped three times. Once on the beach by a lifeguard declaring the Onewheel an “unauthorized motor vehicle.” After informing her that this was hardly a motor vehicle and the law clearly wasn’t in place for this type of platform, an electric bike passes without her batting an eye. So I just continued my ride on the beach. It was awesome! I was confronted by the police later who just were curious what I was riding. No mention to the legality of me on the beach. BTW, this was Hilton Head Beach in SC.

Definitely shouldn't ban personal electric devices but should be regulated on how fast in certain areas walking zones or distance dismounting before getting too close to people.👍

I agree, I own an evolve skateboard and love using it. We don't have rentals in London uk as of yet.

I’ve been riding the boardwalk every now and then at mission beach. No issues so far. I find that if you go early like I do the lifeguards and cops don’t really care long as you ride responsible.

what wrist guards are you using Jimmy? what mode? thanks!

Hi, great video. What make is this one wheel? I presume its ip65 or above?

Jimmy, you were very polite and cordial (reflects on the rest of us ..so thank you!). I've run into the same issues as well....I try not to let it bother me (easier said than done sometimes). Keep up the great posts!

I live in Dallas and we have the same problem. The major trails wont allow any motorized vehicle. Such a shame.

This is very similar to uber coming in as cabs. You need to regulate the company and make sure they have rules to follow and enforce it on their employees/customers. They shouldn't be banning EV's, that's like taking a step backwards in the grand scheme of reducing emissions. There are ways around it; Tesla is a great example. They rolled out self driving vehicles too quickly, and accidents happened. But they didn't ban Teslas off the road, they just told them to fix it. So take it back a notch and have the driver give input every 20 seconds so they pay attention still while driving. Tech takes time to adapt, ruling it out completely isn't the solution.

Rentals should be licensed pay for annually, and if fined or miss used the licence revoked. Personal transportation most of us riding safe, with helmets and gear plus we paid alot of money for these devices so are more likely to ride safe as don't want to trash it.

Jimmy it's not rental scooters ruining it for everyone, its the government.

I understand the concern with having any motorized vehicle on sidewalks and boardwalks. At the same time, unmotorized bikes and boards pose just as much a danger upon impact. It's the idea of it being a motor and those who abuse by infringing on public safety through bad behavior such as racing and bum rushing people out of your way. It's always a few that spoil it.

Great Video... I still to learning about this issue. My previous assumption was electric scooters is the gateway for PEVs being more widely accepted and having industry bankroll to create a PEV culture. All the other parts of the PEV industry (EUC, OneWheel, Skateboards, etc) are not coherent enough or big enough to affect politically. Didn't realized it is causing more of a problem.

Anywhere bicycles are allowed, things like Onewheels, e-skateboards, ebikes, scooters etc should be allowed if they're being operated responsibly and I would say at around 20mph or less. I can totally understand trails not wanting something like EUCs going 30-50mph+ on them as that's a massive danger if there's an accident, but I think anything cycle speeds or lower should be no problem at all. When I've been on multi-use path, cyclists are by far the people going fastest on the trails and typically the most unsafe as well. They're the only people I've seen in tight/blind corners that cross the median line as well and they're typically the most vocal about other people on the trails when they're more or less the biggest problem.

Man wouldn’t that suck, spending over 4000$ on one wheels and EV’s then having them banned. Great channel! A lot of great info!

They say they want us to care about the environment..yet they ban our electric vehicles?? Wtf?!

I‘m from Germany, riding my OneWhell allmost every day in downtown of Hamburg. Since a month we have a new law here. Electric Scooters are now allowed to drive on bicing ways. Electric skateboards are forbidden. But it‘s here like with the normal skateboard- it is forbidden to ride it on boardwalks, but nobody cares. Well, sometimes the police sees me rolling, but i slow down and they don‘t say nothing. So, my only change is, like with the skateboard, to drive carefully and respectful. I want to roll, so i roll. Love your videos! Keep up the good work. U are the reason i bought my OneWheel. I saw all of your tuts and they helped me a lot. Excuse my english dude. Kind regards from Germany

JC, agree with you about scooters! Don’t think that PEVs riders (non rental) are angels. Like said, it’s the riders! It’s just too human to follow rules. Only way anything PEV will be passed in my city, will have to be licensed like a ebicycle. So, until city council passes new bills on PEVs to be legal, which they won’t because reckless riding, PEVs will be illegal! I will admit the one wheel riders I’ve seen were going fairly slow compared to eskateboards! Anything with a motor ain’t gonna pass. Sad for PEVs but necessary to keep everyone safe. BTW, DUI applies to anyone riding anything with a motor on public property.

It's a very busy footpath and there's little else they can do to keep pedestrians safe.

this should have way more views. cities need to say no to these rental companys with no training b4 hand.

When you fly on commercial plane where are you putting your one wheel? As a carry on or under the plane? Are you also having to remove the battery from the board?

Great video Jimmy. I want to know though if your OW is badgered or is it safe to ride a stock OW on the beach/sand as long as it’s away from the water. How did you clean yours?