The Dismal Degradation Of Dynasty Warriors (The Jimquisition)

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Jim Sterling

Jim Sterling

6 жыл бұрын

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Dynasty Warriors may be my favorite series - or at least it was - but Tecmo Koei has been taking the piss with it for years.
Much of what's said here could have been said a long time ago, but Dynasty Warriors 9 was its last chance... and we all know how that went.
Oh, and this isn't just about what they DID to Zhang He!
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@qinlongfei
@qinlongfei 6 жыл бұрын
Well... there's a reason why Koei is jokingly refer by us Chinese as 'Dark Shame' (Koei's Kanji can be translated into 'Light Glory' in Chinese).
@smiffulon8246
@smiffulon8246 6 жыл бұрын
qinlongfei nice
@wu1ming9shi
@wu1ming9shi 6 жыл бұрын
damn that's clever. :)
@JimSterling
@JimSterling 6 жыл бұрын
That's some good wordplay.
@qinlongfei
@qinlongfei 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really sad to say I don't know who first came up with the name. Although it was first 'Dark Glory' and then as Koei begin to go lazier and lazier (or in DW9's case, blatantly discriminating to Chinese consumers when they disabled Chinese text) it eventually became Dark Shame.
@mb2001
@mb2001 6 жыл бұрын
Not "kenji", "kanji".
@EmperorSmith
@EmperorSmith 6 жыл бұрын
True Dynasty Warriors Anecdote: My and my bro have been playing Dynasty Warriors since 2. We played all of them, including any and all of the variants, like Dynasty Tactics, Empires and so on. We always viewed Warriors as a mindless (but addictive) hack & slash - and there was a certain amount of fun once you payed attention to the battle map; of clearing pathways to allow your army to progress and it culminating in a huge end fight. Then we randomly had the opportunity to go to China - anywhere we wanted. Knowing absolutely nothing about China other than Tiananmen Square Tank guy; our only other thought was "How about seeing some of the Three Kingdoms Stuff?". So we went and saw things like Zhuge Liangs tomb; A stone carving purportedly chiseled by Cao Cao himself; The Peach Tree Garden where the 3 Brothers swore their oath; There's even a recently opened Three Kingdoms themepark. As the tour guides were taking us around - we'd see familiar characters from the Dynasty Warriors franchise ; the characters are based on their statues ; "Oh look - It's Guan Yu - that spear is Blue Dragon - his horse was called Red Hare - And there's his sworn Brother Zhang Fei - He was famous for holding the Bridge at Chang Ban while Liu Bei fled with his peasant army away from Cao Cao's superior forces" ; The tour guide looked shocked and said "That's ... all correct! How do you two westerners know so much about Chinese History?!" ; I was too embarrassed to say "Oh, some shitty japanese hack & slash computer game" - so I just said "We have an interest in the Three Kingdoms era". It's surprising how much history you can learn accidentally by osmosis.
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 4 жыл бұрын
Same minus the China travel (I wish I could do that though)
@RikaRoleplay
@RikaRoleplay 4 жыл бұрын
I love this
@ilikedota5
@ilikedota5 4 жыл бұрын
except a lot of that stuff is just myth/legends that people actually believe. and the hard part is telling to what degree its false. like Zhang Fei did hold the bridge at Chang Ban, he had a group of 21 elite cavalry and held a choke point, but eventually destroyed the bridge and retreated too.
@josephfoster1987
@josephfoster1987 4 жыл бұрын
Haha some Chinese dude said that I met was equally shocked when he showed me a three kingdoms card game with only Chinese letters on the cards and I started naming characters.
@EmperorSmith
@EmperorSmith 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephfoster1987 It's called "San Guo Sha". It's a carbon copy of the Bang! card game. Saw it while we were over there too.
@deadmeme2930
@deadmeme2930 6 жыл бұрын
Dynasty Warriors and realism don’t mix. I mean, the games have a single person take down entire armies; that doesn’t seem very realistic to me.
@Raf8347
@Raf8347 6 жыл бұрын
if it's Musou with Realism then play For Honor. oh wait that sucked
@takemesailorboy1116
@takemesailorboy1116 6 жыл бұрын
e x p a n d D O N G
@sacha9957
@sacha9957 6 жыл бұрын
In older DW, especially 2 it was harder to take as many enemies as the more recent games. But yeah, even then you still could take down many many soldiers or officers for one guy. In DW8 a guy uses a god damn boat as a weapon. There are guys with ice, fire or lightning attacks. They pretty much gave up on full realism but then they suddenly want to do a game with more "realism". But you can still take loads of people down at once (with more easy than in DW8 even, thanks to the braindead AI for the most part), use special attacks that are pretty much the opposite of realism... So in short I don't really see what's the problem with no realism. I really only saw "realism" as an excuse for Koei to remove weapons they could have kept (like tonfas...) and to justify a lot of other problems.
@lesterramos6468
@lesterramos6468 6 жыл бұрын
If people wanted a Three Kingdoms era game with realism, they may as well look forward to Three Kingdoms: Total War.
@sacha9957
@sacha9957 6 жыл бұрын
Or even Romance of the Three Kingdoms, which is made by KOEI too. Dynasty Warriors and realism are just antinomic.
@Achillez098
@Achillez098 6 жыл бұрын
If they really wanted Dynasty Warriors to be open world, they would need something like this: Rather than playing as a historical character, you make your own. The "open world" shouldn't be just a mission area but bigger, all of China should be open for you to explore. You start the game during the Yellow Turban Rebellion, as a nobody. You can fight bandits, assassinate people, help local lords suppress rebellions, or help rebels overthrow their oppressors. As you become more and more famous, the various factions, like Wei, Shu, and Wu, will try to recruit you to serve in their army. Along the way, you can even choose to switch sides if you want (with consequences of course), and along the way, you will meet all the various Dynasty Warriors characters. Also, defeating a particular main character grants you access to their weapons, armors, and powers.
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn 6 жыл бұрын
So empires?
@sannyer633
@sannyer633 6 жыл бұрын
DW9 Empires gents! We are waiting for this.
@carloscaro9121
@carloscaro9121 6 жыл бұрын
This - only as a strategy and tactics game - is exactly what their Romance of the Three Kingdoms series did multiple times. VII, VIII, and X for the PS2 leap to mind and XIII was released for the PS4 with English localization.
@johnpolsen
@johnpolsen 6 жыл бұрын
So, Mount and Blade by way of Dynasty Warriors?
@coolman5242
@coolman5242 6 жыл бұрын
They could've just made it like Mount and Blade and called it a day.
@WickedRibbon
@WickedRibbon 6 жыл бұрын
I really want the "REALISM" sting to become a regular part of the show.
@RevolverLancelot
@RevolverLancelot 6 жыл бұрын
oh my god same
@blondbraid7986
@blondbraid7986 6 жыл бұрын
Word! Too many games push for REALISM, if I'd want reality, I'd walk out the front door, not sit in front of a virtual video game.
@jessielefey
@jessielefey 6 жыл бұрын
I want to snip the audio for a text message notification.
@gp8189
@gp8189 6 жыл бұрын
It should come in handy for covering Kingdom Come Deliverance, a game where every obtuse mechanical flaw is explained by fans realism but also there are magic potions. Cus realism!
@DragoonBB
@DragoonBB 6 жыл бұрын
would of been better if he could of found a clip of the old online dynasty warriors game scene that plays when you loss a battle. Your character does a disappointed animation depending on the weapon they have.
@eleanorgreywolfe5142
@eleanorgreywolfe5142 6 жыл бұрын
I really do hate it when a developer pulls the realism card, you could at least have the decency to give us a better excuse for being lazy instead of just confirming how lazy you are by using a lazy excuse.
@brajuhani
@brajuhani 6 жыл бұрын
Not necessary developers, could be publisher; "This is what you are working, this is what needs to be done in X time".
@miagi1337
@miagi1337 6 жыл бұрын
Remember the good old times where no-one wasted a thought about an RPG or Action Advantage being realistic and it was only about bringing fun. I also loved the silly game logic... like OH MY GOD YOU NEED TO SAVE THE WORLD NOW! ... going for grinding, exploring and levelling for 20h ... not realistic, but fun.
@cam-a-lot1973
@cam-a-lot1973 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I believe "entertaining" should be the first and foremost word a developer/publisher needs to keep at the top of their brain chasms~
@brajuhani
@brajuhani 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think games need to be entertaining necessary, intriguing and engaging works too. For example This war of mine isn't that entertaining, but still great experience.
@cam-a-lot1973
@cam-a-lot1973 6 жыл бұрын
I could view Silent Hill 2 as entertaining cuz' of those reasons bruh. And sure War of Mine is 'entertaining'. I may be splitting hairs here but entertainment is entertainment regardless of whether its doing so through fun, fear, thrills, long artistic panning shots of scenery, lore in your face, lore you have to dig through, gameplay mechanics that make you feel uncomfortable with your choices or easily telegraphed heroic choices with no consequences. An example of something I'd consider as not entertaining is Steven Seagel's 'The Foreigner', whereas Steven Seagel's 'Undersiege' is entertaining. As long as its not 'boring'. War of Mine may not be traditional entertainment, but it is definitely not boring, so I count it. I know I'm ranting hardcore over nonsense but after 27 years on this Earth I value 'entertainment' over things such as originality if you could believe that~
@thecadhouse3509
@thecadhouse3509 4 жыл бұрын
Jim's feelings towards them taking away Zhang He's claws is exactly how I feel about the way they keep equipping Gan Ning with increasingly shittier weapons. I miss his Scimitar from 2-5.
@ultimateblade4127
@ultimateblade4127 3 жыл бұрын
I liked Zhou Yu's curved blade before they made it a staff in 6. I don't hate the staff, I just liked how Zhou Yu used his sword.
@freelanceart1019
@freelanceart1019 3 жыл бұрын
@@ultimateblade4127 they made zhou Yu intoa. sun Wukong Clone.
@gildedvulture7965
@gildedvulture7965 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the paired mace type weapons Diao Chan wielded 😢
@SoilderKrizer
@SoilderKrizer 2 жыл бұрын
I miss his scimitar and tattoos my man was tatted he had the most drip in the series
@LedZeppelinxBROx
@LedZeppelinxBROx 2 жыл бұрын
They've done that with many characters unfortunately. They took away Wen Yang's javelin for some reason even though he supposedly according to character description is a master of using the javelin and replaced it with some weird looking sword thing...
@SLENDAMANN
@SLENDAMANN 6 жыл бұрын
These environments look about on par with unmodded Oblivion ... a 12 year old game. AMBITIOUS!
@yamafemto3414
@yamafemto3414 6 жыл бұрын
Saul Slendamann hey I like oblivion. *Have you heard of the high elves?*
@Xilivian
@Xilivian 6 жыл бұрын
+Saul Slendamann You make that sound like a bad thing. Sure Oblivion looks *extremely* outdated graphically wise, but the environments are pretty varied and rich in content. DW9 on the other-hand is practically the polar opposite of that.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 6 жыл бұрын
Look, I like Skyrim's nordic spin on fantasy over the generic mcgeneric Oblivion went for, but it pretty is hard to argue that it at least looked decent for the time. And yet is somehow beating out DW9 with it's presentation for huge tracts of land.
@nathanclark2424
@nathanclark2424 6 жыл бұрын
Saul Slendamann Fallout New Vegas looks better than this
@dan4474
@dan4474 6 жыл бұрын
Slendamann, get in my office -- stop killin' people! I mean, is the idea that you've got some kinda mystical arcane power?
@wixardo
@wixardo 6 жыл бұрын
Life of black tiger music over Dynasty warriors footage. What a legend.
@lugbzurg8987
@lugbzurg8987 6 жыл бұрын
Life of Black Tiger and Dynasty Warriors. Such Xtreme Legends!
@Stiffmiester979
@Stiffmiester979 5 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget Zhang He asking if the enemy camp was pretty. That shit made me laugh so hard. What an awesome character he was.
@hugo070992
@hugo070992 4 жыл бұрын
I counted the Wikipedia list of games : they released 54 games over 21 years, counting Dinasty Wariors and all the spin of seires including One Piece, Berserk etc... That's a shitload of games
@ryanfuller4401
@ryanfuller4401 3 жыл бұрын
I hate that they were given berserk, like bruh the devs behind the souls series and the dragon's dogma devs were literally inspired by berserk. They would have done an infinitely better job, I guess getting a good berserk adaptation for after the eclipse is impossible...
@Kwatcher100
@Kwatcher100 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanfuller4401 When you say “souls series” you mean Dark Souls, right? Because “Souls Series” is now the official name of Namco’s Soul Blade/SoulCalibur series.
@Gigawood
@Gigawood 5 жыл бұрын
“I have to play Warframe with claw weapons and butterfly wings to pretend...” Oh man, ouch. 😂
@SirAyme
@SirAyme 6 жыл бұрын
We should set up a petition to get Jim a Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares ripoff for video game publishers.
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 6 жыл бұрын
I think that's basically the elevator pitch for the Jimquisition, though.
@SirAyme
@SirAyme 6 жыл бұрын
lnsflare1 I wanna see him actually shout in game dev's faces though XD
@gingersonnyboy
@gingersonnyboy 6 жыл бұрын
This would be top telly I would totally see this on Netflix
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 6 жыл бұрын
Sir Ayme Just trick Randy Pitchford into coming into the same building as Jim Sterling.
@smb0621
@smb0621 6 жыл бұрын
I'd watch it :)
@AceDreamer
@AceDreamer 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, that while we fight in the grim dark future of Warframe for loot and fashion, somewhere out there, in the origin system, there is a Jim Sterling fighting grineer with claws and purple butterfly wings. Marvelous~
@ulfric9870
@ulfric9870 6 жыл бұрын
Introducing the newest frame STERRRDUST
@xenrusxenomorph2268
@xenrusxenomorph2268 6 жыл бұрын
Humble Ulfric yes
@qinlongfei
@qinlongfei 6 жыл бұрын
Well... there's also Mag adopting her Power Ranger look. I wonder if I'm the only one who got suckered into picking Mag as my starter because I want to role play as a Power Ranger...
@burbla8065
@burbla8065 6 жыл бұрын
R+Yes, there 4 could be the Quistion - Affected by power strength and Duration - Effect they run awaya and cry in the corner with shame. When combined with the 2 skill "Facts" the commit seppuku.
@sarahmacdonald955
@sarahmacdonald955 6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I loved the Gundam spinoff, and the Empires games. However, JimfuckingSterlingson is right. For too long they've taken our good will for granted. This has been a long time coming.
@kanden27
@kanden27 6 жыл бұрын
Dynasty Warriors 3! Still own today! “I..I..it’s Lu Bu!”
@mimszanadunstedt441
@mimszanadunstedt441 3 жыл бұрын
And people say nostalgia is bad. The older games were literally better.
@k9thundra
@k9thundra 6 жыл бұрын
haha, Marvin the Martian head was a good touch, it really did sound like him.
@chocobros1
@chocobros1 6 жыл бұрын
What tecmo koei did was unforgivable. Well okay, I'll forgive them, but only if they put my Dynasty Warriors OC in 10. His name is Jim He
@YTDeepshock
@YTDeepshock 6 жыл бұрын
I look forward to what they (volume = 200000) DO (/volume) with Jim He.
@KaiserAfini
@KaiserAfini 6 жыл бұрын
chocobros1 No Sterdust Yu or or Amiel Bei Hardcore ? Not even Riston Zheng ?
@Nighthound75
@Nighthound75 6 жыл бұрын
Joey Santiano that comment was amazing lol
@chocobros1
@chocobros1 6 жыл бұрын
Joey Santiano you have just won this entire comment section
@Nightstriker995
@Nightstriker995 6 жыл бұрын
I'll forgive them if they put the iconic weapons back in for free and get rid of the clones but knowing Koei they won't.
@Colzline
@Colzline 6 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to point out if no one remembers or noticed, Taishi Ci being my favorite character, in DW6 they took away his battle rods and gave him a halberd but then DW6: Empires came out and guess what was back? His battle rods. So, notice in DW9 they kept his battle rods in the game but Sun Ce lost his Tonfas.....It feels like they can literally take away and add in weapons as they please, $5 says Sun Ce's Tonfa's will either be in DW9: Extreme Legends or Empires.
@ultimateblade4127
@ultimateblade4127 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't Taishi Ci keep his rods and Ce lost his Tonfa? And Cao Ren lost his sick blade-shield and had it replaced with a halberd, Zhou Tai was a basic sword officer, Lu Meng was..well...unchanged..but yeah.
@fiendish9474
@fiendish9474 3 жыл бұрын
$5 says they charge you an extra $5 to give the tonfas back lmao
@imiparerau432
@imiparerau432 3 ай бұрын
​@@ultimateblade4127 Cao Ren's whole thing was that he's a tank. Why would they do this.
@TheHalo3vidmaker
@TheHalo3vidmaker 6 жыл бұрын
I love ya Jim but I feel like you missed a great opportunity to title this video "The End of a Dynasty"
@yamafemto3414
@yamafemto3414 6 жыл бұрын
Ben it's not truly an end, they could fix this.
@maybedan695
@maybedan695 6 жыл бұрын
Steel .Brother Style not sense
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 5 жыл бұрын
not exactly. Warriors Orochi and the other Spinoffs are doing amazing.
@raphsere
@raphsere 6 жыл бұрын
Successfully defeated Techmo Koei, a powerful ennemy!
@phoenixlich
@phoenixlich 6 жыл бұрын
That intro.... I clapped. Alone in my bedroom. I clapped.
@TheChibiGingi
@TheChibiGingi 6 жыл бұрын
What's worse is the "Realism" excuse was a blatant lie from the get go, as Suzuki eventually confessed it was due to running out of time as to why certain weapons were dropped from the previous game to this one. You know, that thing that the fans were pretty much proclaiming from the moment the "realism" excuse ever came to light? I'm more angry that they thought they could feed people a bullshit excuse like that and not just be honest that they spent too much time and effort on the Open World Mechanic, which is your run-of-the-mill variety and brings nothing interesting to the concept like Horizon Zero Dawn did. Of course, why launch a completed game when you can weasel more money out of the player base by selling new weapons later on down the road? So, even the whole "we ran out of time" excuse is bullshit, because we know it's to get more money with minimal effort.
@richardauthement3105
@richardauthement3105 6 жыл бұрын
I know right? I wouldn't mind the weapons if they actually gave us a god-honest reason for the changes and did decent-priced weapon packs that won't make me scream in rage and throw my PS4 out the window.
@Arbron
@Arbron 6 жыл бұрын
And as of recently, they've not only let that admission that it was a lie piss people off, but they're "apologizing" by giving us the privilege of giving them more money to get those weapons back. Are they *trying* to see how much good will they can tank?
@aminn003
@aminn003 4 жыл бұрын
Taking away Zhang He's claws is the greatest tragedy of our lifetime.
@felipe18383
@felipe18383 6 жыл бұрын
Autoerotic Assetflipsiation
@mikesloan3924
@mikesloan3924 6 жыл бұрын
It was legit
@cartmann94
@cartmann94 6 жыл бұрын
*MONDAY HAS ARRIVED*
@residentgrigo4701
@residentgrigo4701 6 жыл бұрын
Let´s not turn Jim´s work into a meme, please.
@joaobatistaperinjunior953
@joaobatistaperinjunior953 6 жыл бұрын
Too late resident, too late.
@IamCrusaderRUS
@IamCrusaderRUS 6 жыл бұрын
...and the next monday is coming.
@ais4185
@ais4185 6 жыл бұрын
* *COME*
@baratacom
@baratacom 6 жыл бұрын
That Life of Black Tiger music gets me every single time.
@shaidyn8278
@shaidyn8278 5 жыл бұрын
DW 3, 4, and 5 were magical games. I spent months and months couch co-op with my brother unlocking everything. I feel so so bad for children who will never get to experience playing a 'complete' game, with no dlc or microtransactions.
@ease-l5330
@ease-l5330 6 жыл бұрын
That life of black tiger music tho
@Greta-yh5ou
@Greta-yh5ou 6 жыл бұрын
I’m in a hospital bed and recovering from surgery and Jim’s video really helps with the pain. Thanks bud!
@Kreiser_VII
@Kreiser_VII 5 жыл бұрын
And I'm still here, ready to celebrate this video's anniversary. God I love this episode
@JestanDiams
@JestanDiams 6 жыл бұрын
Taking away Zhang He's claws wasn't the only thing they DID to him! All of the officers' voice actors, not just Zhang He's, got replaced with VA's that hardly anybody has ever heard of. I think.
@blackoverblueskies6221
@blackoverblueskies6221 6 жыл бұрын
Jim, you forgot to mention the anime adaptation of Dynasty Warriors: Skeleton Warriors Edit: i spoke too soon
@shinbakihanma2749
@shinbakihanma2749 6 жыл бұрын
BlackOverBlueSkies Skeleton Warriors is just Dynasty Warriors with WORSE graphics. I mean, they're just Skeletons. Lazy Koei Tecmo😔
@calamaty2007
@calamaty2007 6 жыл бұрын
Always watch to the end of the video before you comment.
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 6 жыл бұрын
you spooke to soon soory
@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer
@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer 6 жыл бұрын
The game is good too if anyone's not played it, Neversoft aka Skullmonkeys
@angeloffish
@angeloffish 6 жыл бұрын
Who else has been waiting for this Jimquisition?
@JimSterling
@JimSterling 6 жыл бұрын
Me!
@cyanmanta
@cyanmanta 6 жыл бұрын
I think I'm eager to see next week's even more, what with Metal Gear Survive hitting in two days.
@dr.chungusphd108
@dr.chungusphd108 6 жыл бұрын
I’m eager for all Jimqusitions.
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 6 жыл бұрын
Can't deny I was interested, even though I knew Jim would stick to his points from before.
@TiagoMorbusSa
@TiagoMorbusSa 6 жыл бұрын
TWENTY EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!! MY LIFE IS COMPLETE!
@SharKing319
@SharKing319 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how Tecmo-Koei sells so many tiny packs of DLC that they might as well be microtransactions, I was incredibly surprised to learn something about Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends: Definitive Edition on the Switch. Unlike the so-called "Complete Edition" on Steam, the Switch version's "Definitive Edition" title *isn't* bullshit! The game costs $40 and comes with practically all of the content that's been carved out for DLC in every other version, with no available DLC itself on the Switch's eShop. Seriously, I had to research that many times over because I just couldn't believe it, given Tecmo-Koei's recent history. But ever since I confirmed it and decided to buy the game, I've been pretty damn happy with it. It's a shame that this'll probably be the last time that this longtime DW fan gets to be this happy with Dynasty Warriors, if the dumpster fire that is DW9 is any indication.
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, they didn't even do that on the PS4.
@youmukonpaku3168
@youmukonpaku3168 Жыл бұрын
shit, that's better than they treated us on the Vita. To be fair, they already knew they were selling to the poor bastards who bought a Vita.
@betterrobots
@betterrobots 6 жыл бұрын
Jim; you are a treasure. never stop making up words
@kennycai8695
@kennycai8695 6 жыл бұрын
This stings me very hard personally, cause I have friends working at Koei Tecmo, friends I have known since college, and that was a while ago. A lot of the consensus they provided was that the higher ups have a strong "resting on their laurels" mentality, and there is an unofficial divide within company culture, between the Japanese speakers and non-Japanese speakers. Changing a culture will not be easy, but I pray hard that Koei Tecmo and Omega Force can turn things around, cause I like their games and the company itself, even if I am not always supportive of some of their policies.
@redbeardnj
@redbeardnj 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Hamada yes i agree. I do contract work for alot of native Japanese out of Philadelphia and i can tell they dont take criticism well especially from westerners. I dont think Jim realizes a video like this wont change their minds and can only hurt us die hard fans. I say leave them alone and embrace anything they release. As any fan of any series, your not gonna like everything released. But hey, i say more content is always a good thing. Id rather have "more" than "nothing" to be honest. Side note: i actually like DW9. Reccomend playing in Chineese dialog also. Ive embraced the game with its warts and all, and in doing so, it has become very enjoyable. I am having a ton of fun!!!
@shupasopni
@shupasopni 6 жыл бұрын
"I say leave them alone and embrace anything they release." That is literally *THE* worst thing you can do as a consumer that wants a better product. What you want to do is stop giving them money until they make what you want.
@Nedoxu
@Nedoxu 6 жыл бұрын
I think the point he's making is if we stop giving them money, a very likely outcome is that they will just stop making video games entirely, which would be good for _no one,_ including people who don't like their games right now. He's saying that Japan will see the lack of sales and say "Well I guess fuck them, they don't want our games anymore" and cut us off. That's the point he's making. This has happened so often to franchises I love, and I can totally see where he's coming from with that, even if I don't necessarily agree.
@the_gratefulgamer
@the_gratefulgamer 6 жыл бұрын
Nedoxu you fuckers must work for Koei/Omega. We're supposed to accept trash. Keep paying for lazy reused new trash. Or else we might stop keep getting new version of a trash series? Tf kinda logic is that? Fuk that. Gtfoh with that noise. P.S. Fuk yall we want our dialogue localized. Fuk sub-happy elitist pricks
@Nedoxu
@Nedoxu 6 жыл бұрын
Mjikan Fuck off, maybe read what I actually wrote before you tag me in shit. I literally said "even if I don't necessarily agree." Which I don't. But I see the point he's making and acknowledge it _is_ a valid reason to buy the game.... for him. Not for me, and not for necessarily anyone else. Read next time. I am HOPEFUL that with the fucking horrific failure that Dynasty Warriors 9 was, they will take the funds they have gained from their other spinoff series and make an actual GOOD game for Dynasty Warriors 10.
@mushymcmushington7176
@mushymcmushington7176 6 жыл бұрын
Why the hell does everything need to be open-world these days? Why can't more developers go for the incredibly superior "open-level", a la Deus Ex and Thief? It's got the best of both worlds; handcrafted design on every inch of it, while still being large enough and content-filled enough to scratch that itch for exploration.
@jojy7706
@jojy7706 6 жыл бұрын
I think the reason for the lack of "open-level" games is actually pretty simple. They require effort. Anyone with enough free time and no design skill can cobble together a big landscape and plop down random buildings on it; a Deus Ex style level requires you to actually plan out routes, place pickups and characters at sensible locations, and have some degree of artistic cohesion to make it not be terrible.
@sebastiankrant2738
@sebastiankrant2738 6 жыл бұрын
Well, partly, because this is a more predictable thing to do: If you have an "open-level" thing, you need to look after pacing, size and balance carefully. However, also because its safer: There was a time and still is a certain desire for games to be open world because it meant more investment. More to do. Many people dont buy that many games and an open world game appeals to them on the ground that they get a lot of time for their money, which might be better for them than a more enjoyable but shorter experience. Especially in their purchase decision. With an open world there comes a certain security: You get XYZ out of the game. With streamlined levels, there is a risk involved: Will I like it enough to be worth it? More so, there is a risk for the developer in terms of desing: How do I design my level for the maximum amount of enjoyment? Its a variable. With open world you can simply say: Shitton of stuff in there, people can do as much as they like. Plus, the open world busywork is again very safe: Everyone got a lot of generic stuff to do, rather than a few extremly engaging stuff, that might not be to their liking. So all in all: Safe, secure, precise and you get what you pay for - usually in good quality. In exchange its also bland, simplistic and not innovative. Which reminds me of a newspaper article about germans games industry: "German games are like german washmachines. Working? Great. Entertaining? No. Thats why we are famous for our cars and our games are stupid. " I think we can safely replace german with "open world" here.
@BalsticMaker12
@BalsticMaker12 6 жыл бұрын
Open world tends to boost review score in western media. The contrast between Jim’s hatred and other media’s warm reception, paid or not, is the proof of this. Open level? Those games are not received as well as open world games because, you know, open world is bigger.
@Relugus
@Relugus 6 жыл бұрын
MushyBird McMushington Open world works with games like Monster Hunter which are open by nature, whereas Dynasty Warriors is a game where level structure is key to its gameplay. Now, when is Sega going to give us a new Dragon Force?
@Lock2002ful
@Lock2002ful 6 жыл бұрын
MushyBird McMushington Well said
@ajshim
@ajshim 5 жыл бұрын
As a diehard Dynasty Warriors fan, who has read the original book, watched every adaptation & played / owns every game; this depresses me to my core. I want to outright cry. Hell, I would even cosplay as one of Yellow Turban brothers, go front of TecmoKoei & scream "You flaming idiots!" In the Dynasty Warriors 3 voices. You pretty much expressed my thoughts on the path the franchise & the 9th game. Not to mention we finally got Chinese voice acting in the 9th game, but it had to be in the 9th game! Jim Sterling, as Dynasty Warriors fans we have to unite & show that even our tolerance has its limits. Thanks for making this video & expressing everything we have been dreading & thinking.
@EricToTheScionti
@EricToTheScionti 4 жыл бұрын
Were any of the Empires games any good? I quit at DW5
@ajshim
@ajshim 4 жыл бұрын
@@EricToTheScionti I personally enjoyed Dynasty Warriors Empire 5 & 8. 6 was when they started to experiment more. 8 Empires had the best character customization & even allowed you to create your own scenario.
@thebigcapitalism9826
@thebigcapitalism9826 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the title of the original book? Or isbn? I can’t find it
@ajshim
@ajshim 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigcapitalism9826 The book the games are based on is called: "The Romance of the Three Kingdoms."
@LaserfaceJones
@LaserfaceJones 6 жыл бұрын
DW resonated enough with me that I bothered to try and read Romance of the Three Kingdoms as a middle schooler. My buddies all loved the game, we grinded all our favorite character's ultimate weapons and all the special items whenever we hung out. I ordered the starter decks from the Magic set based off the Three Kingdoms, and just loved this franchise to death. Hopefully I'll get a chance to play Xiahou Dun and be excited to swing that ridiculous Kirin Fang around again.
@RevolverRez
@RevolverRez 6 жыл бұрын
Your favourite Dynasty Warriors character's personality reminds me of a certain wrestler...
@godzilladude1231
@godzilladude1231 6 жыл бұрын
RevolverRez STERDUST!!!
@bobfrank1061
@bobfrank1061 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, Flight Sim added malware to their game and called it "DRM", which was collecitng password. RPS has a piece on it.
@tallankaan3316
@tallankaan3316 6 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting it isn't the actual game or even the Flight Sim developer who have done this, it's Flight Sim Labs - they make add-ons for the game, but aren't the primary developer. Still worth picking up though.
@StCerberusEngel
@StCerberusEngel 6 жыл бұрын
There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom.
@robin_queer
@robin_queer 4 жыл бұрын
WHERE'S THE KABOOM??
@seanblah12
@seanblah12 6 жыл бұрын
Laughed more than I'd like to admit at "Baton Gone! Gone! Gone!"
@DistantWatcher
@DistantWatcher 6 жыл бұрын
I think Jim really likes Zhang He...call it a hunch.
@tallankaan3316
@tallankaan3316 6 жыл бұрын
What on Earth gave you that idea? Just can't see it myself
@redbeardnj
@redbeardnj 6 жыл бұрын
DistantWatcher Zang He is a beautiful butterfly! 😍
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 6 жыл бұрын
Actually his favourite is Cao Pi.
@TReyDon0fTX
@TReyDon0fTX 6 жыл бұрын
Zhang He was my first character when i was 9 because of Vega xD
@shanemarsh5
@shanemarsh5 6 жыл бұрын
Three videos on Dynasty Warriors 9 and no mention of NO MULTIPLAYER. I've bought these since 3 because I play them with a friend.
@MajoradeMayhem
@MajoradeMayhem 6 жыл бұрын
Jim obviously has nobody else to play with, whereas my roots with the series is Zhange He photobombing my sibling's attempt to beat the game. Good times, good times... Yes, the lack of the co-op mode is criminal. Dynasty Warriors is a fantastic game to play together!
@MajoradeMayhem
@MajoradeMayhem 6 жыл бұрын
@Paya u wat nao? Dynasty Warriors has only ever been good old LOCAL co-op multiplayer. And it was glorious! Plainly you are not acquainted with the series. (Except for DW Online, obs. Clue in the name.)
@acetraker1988
@acetraker1988 6 жыл бұрын
DW8 has cross play from ps3 to ps4 wut wut...DW9 has none?
@hoodedman6579
@hoodedman6579 6 жыл бұрын
+Majora de Mayhem The later games also had some online multiplayer, but I think it was just playing with other people in the same way you would locally; there were certainly no dedicated game modes for it.
@youtubeisapublisher6407
@youtubeisapublisher6407 6 жыл бұрын
I think Jim was more concerned with what they *DID* to Zhang He.
@DarthAlphaTheGreat
@DarthAlphaTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno. Orochi 3 and Dynasty 7 and 8 were the peak of greatness.
@kennynguyen3413
@kennynguyen3413 6 жыл бұрын
9 was so bad that I had to wash the bad taste out my mouth by getting dynasty’s warriors 8 extreme legend lol
@richardauthement3105
@richardauthement3105 6 жыл бұрын
Kenny Nguyen I want that game though. in case 9 makes me want to kill it with fire.
@xxgalaxyplayzxx1259
@xxgalaxyplayzxx1259 5 жыл бұрын
But 8 was awesome right?
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 4 жыл бұрын
@@xxgalaxyplayzxx1259 Not awesome, just good.
@TheFlameSlayer
@TheFlameSlayer 6 жыл бұрын
i can see it now already. DW9 DLC zhang he's claws , sun ce's tonfa's ,chen gong's scroll and such .
@mokinokaro
@mokinokaro 6 жыл бұрын
Extreme Legends games already have pulled such things.
@TheFlameSlayer
@TheFlameSlayer 6 жыл бұрын
@mokinokaro yes but it gets worse with DW7-DW8 buisness practice more so DW7 where they were selling weapons (old weapons from past games in the case of DW7 authough i think bladed crossbow thing from DW6 appeared as DLC for DW8) then after xtreme legends they just stick it in the new empires game. i mean talk about getting people to pay for something twice. i have no doubt if a DW9 empires comes out all these weapons added will be slapped on someone in game and UNPCs (wont matter either way as you can play as anyone in empires in the UNPCs case) will all be on DW9 empires
@aceDOZA
@aceDOZA 6 жыл бұрын
7 been done it
@redbeardnj
@redbeardnj 6 жыл бұрын
The Game Slayer always hated Sun Ce's tonfas. They can keep them horrendous things!
@Saiyuran
@Saiyuran 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if people remember Dynasty Warriors had an online game once
@nilesavernus1438
@nilesavernus1438 6 жыл бұрын
I was a little sad he dident bring it up
@J.MF.Tangle
@J.MF.Tangle 6 жыл бұрын
IKR, it was the first of many reasons why I didn't purchase DW9. I can't even have fun running through the emptiness with my friends. I bought a PS4 for Monster Hunter, One Piece and DW9, so I'll be playing MH and War Frame until OP drops.
@CrossfacePanda
@CrossfacePanda 6 жыл бұрын
Would love it if you made a video discussing what new additions and improvements you’d want in an ideal Dynasty Warriors sequel, Jim. Would be interesting to hear what direction you’d want the series to go in after this debacle. Personally, I’d just want them to deepen the existing move-sets of DW8, plus maybe add a unique mechanic to each character that compliments their fighting style (Pirate Warriors already has something akin to this, and Sengoku Basara has something similar that is even more fleshed out). It’d also be cool if, like with Sengoku Basara, there was an end game item for each character you could unlock, which powers up that unique character trait and makes your character even more fun and versatile to play. There was nothing wrong with the gameplay in DW8, they really only needed to keep making every character feel more unique and rewarding to play, not do a total revamp. I’d also like a return to stage based level design, but maybe have the stages be more varied in their progression and design.
@eastreddragon
@eastreddragon 6 жыл бұрын
My biggest thing with 9 is I KNEW it wasn't going to be as good as 8. The moment they revealed they were doing an open world design AND revamped the moveset system, I knew corners were going to be cut somewhere.
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 6 жыл бұрын
My perfect musou game would be pirate warriors 3 gameplay with characters from either an anime I like a lot better or traditional historical figures.
@sweetmoonpigeon7469
@sweetmoonpigeon7469 6 жыл бұрын
Their crossover games are their best selling and best performing games. I personally love the Samurai Warriors series, but they are built for fun spinoffs. You can only tell the same story so many times
@rightsideup6304
@rightsideup6304 5 жыл бұрын
@@sweetmoonpigeon7469 For a good reason honestly, otherwise the IP owners of the things they crossover with would tear them a new one
@ultimateblade4127
@ultimateblade4127 5 жыл бұрын
I want a system like 5, where it wasn't too over the top. I'd like the grab attack system from 6, honestly. Maybe they can make the musou like 5, but stronger. I'd love the duels system from 4 as well.
@TreeColor
@TreeColor 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone who had a favourite character is upset with the turnout of this game.
@ItsAStuckPixel
@ItsAStuckPixel 6 жыл бұрын
where's the ambition? Nobunaga still has it.
@FunkyFreshFellow
@FunkyFreshFellow 6 жыл бұрын
matt webdev You know, I played Pokémon Conquest when I was younger without even realizing it was actually a crossover between those two games.
@BadGlitch
@BadGlitch 6 жыл бұрын
matt webdev HAHA
@musiclover70011
@musiclover70011 6 жыл бұрын
you are a great man
@calthesquidking5839
@calthesquidking5839 6 жыл бұрын
Well done
@rewl_official
@rewl_official 6 жыл бұрын
Dynasty Warriors 9 trying to be more "realistic" with it's weapons is the E3-Giant Crab controversey all over again. If your gonna go realistic with your game, go all the way. Or at least try to somewhat do your best at the whole realism part.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 6 жыл бұрын
PIZZA TRASH MERRYLL #Fuckyourrealism
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 6 жыл бұрын
*"real ancient japanese battles"* *"so heres a giant enemy crab!"*
@pyrojinn
@pyrojinn 6 жыл бұрын
Even when you incorporate realism into Dynasty Warriors, the paradox still stand, because what the game’s about is demi-gods slaughtering through thousand of mindless goons, while being fabulous and flashy. That is as far from realism as you can get. Did I mention there is NO BLOOD in DW9 where’s the realism Tecmo Koei? #fuckyourrealism
@strugglesnuggledslime7040
@strugglesnuggledslime7040 6 жыл бұрын
Going all "REALISM!" while basing your work on the frigging rotk is a forgone conclusion in the first place. There is a very good reason the thing is considered a *fictional* historical novel.
@callummegginson554
@callummegginson554 6 жыл бұрын
check out my historically-accurate and gritting-ly realistic video game about the Iliad
@facerip356
@facerip356 6 жыл бұрын
There are so many people like me, even here in this comment section, who never picked up a Warriors game, but played Hyrule Warriors and really liked it. They had a brand new audience for their games. Think about that. What other genre gets a huge influx of new players this many years in to their game series? They could have made D.W. 9 amazing, actually put time money and effort in to it, and had people like me buy it simply because of good word of mouth because we enjoyed Hyrule Warriors. They squandered all of it.
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 6 жыл бұрын
"So, was the enemy camp pretty?" LOL
@DyoKasparov
@DyoKasparov 6 жыл бұрын
Directed by Tommy Wiseau
@Ssalamanderr
@Ssalamanderr 6 жыл бұрын
Man, my best friend and I played the heck out of DW3 back in highschool. It was great fun as a co-op game. It's sad that the series hasn't evolved at all since then.
@kupokuporay
@kupokuporay 3 жыл бұрын
Kill 1000 enemies in the old Dynasty Warriors games: "You are a true warrior of the Three Kingdoms!" Kill 9999+1 enemies in Dynasty Warriors 9: " ah sure whatever who cares ... why are we still here? Just to suffer?"
@im.9648
@im.9648 6 жыл бұрын
Hearing all the sounds and seeing the footage from DW3 makes me so happy. And your love of Zhang He? I can see you are true man of class.
@lazygamer2995
@lazygamer2995 6 жыл бұрын
As far as the voice acting goes its all koei fault they didnt let them rehearse and rushed them to record the lines..xun yus voice actor stated this
@xenrusxenomorph2268
@xenrusxenomorph2268 6 жыл бұрын
MadGamer ! Damn
@buchiklop110
@buchiklop110 6 жыл бұрын
They also hired actors who specialize in bit parts in live-action dramas and movies rather than actual voice actors. I think only a handful of the VAs in the game have ever acted in a video game before.
@andersstensson
@andersstensson 6 жыл бұрын
#autoeroticassetflipsiation
@nathane5287
@nathane5287 6 жыл бұрын
Did you know Tecmo Koei died from autoerotic assetflipsiation?
@DoctorLazers
@DoctorLazers 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, the whole Xtreme Legends/Empires thing is what turned me off of the Warriors games to begin with. It makes no sense to me why the don't just make the Empires stuff just additional content in each of the base games. An extra mode to play, rather than a separate game every year that reuses the same assets.
@hainguyen4707
@hainguyen4707 6 жыл бұрын
it's called "milking the cash cow."
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 5 жыл бұрын
Capcom got away with it via it's endless releases of Street Fighter, so they thought they could do the same?
@BlurryGhost
@BlurryGhost 4 жыл бұрын
Dynasty warriors 8 is still fun. Just recently got the switch version. Perfect place for the game. Edit: The switch version contains all paid content.
@scottthewaterwarrior
@scottthewaterwarrior 6 жыл бұрын
I hear that same "realism" argument from people defending how easily you die in GTA V. Oh, so they made it so that you can't tank grenades like in GTA San Andreas because "realism" but then made every vehicle handle like an RC car...
@blondbraid7986
@blondbraid7986 6 жыл бұрын
Funny how "realism" only applies until it suddenly doesn't.
@jojy7706
@jojy7706 6 жыл бұрын
I never really had a problem with the quick deaths in GTA IV and V. The addition of a proper cover system, along with weapons that felt and handled better, made it a non-issue outside of one or two poorly designed mission segments. And unlike Dynasty Warriors, the newer GTA games actually take themselves seriously, with a world somewhat grounded in plausibility. You know, instead of being an unkillable death god that can mow down thousands of faceless troops without effort. That's not to say you're necessarily wrong, of course; we all prefer different things in different games, and if you enjoy being a walking tank in GTA, that's fine. Just pointing out that it's got more of an excuse to use realism that anything published by Koei Tecmo.
@TaddiestMason
@TaddiestMason 6 жыл бұрын
Gertrud Bondesson not at all. That’s how game design works. You have to choose which aspects you want for the sake of realism and what need to be tweaked to make the gameplay more enjoyable
@TaddiestMason
@TaddiestMason 6 жыл бұрын
scottthewaterwarrior are you sure you’re not just bad at driving? I’ve never had a problem with the vehicles. Are you sure it’s not you?
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 6 жыл бұрын
Quick deaths is not really a problem though. Not in the same way. There are no corners cut there. It is purely artistic decision. DW9 is cutting out content for realism where there is still magic power. Cars handling not like real cars doesn't BEGIN to compare, because GTA isn't Gran Turismo. Cars are better than in GTA 3 (for example). Progress is made rather than regression. Time to kill shrinking isn't a degradation in quality.
@ytnukesme1600
@ytnukesme1600 6 жыл бұрын
Dead or Alive 5 Last Round "which was supposed to be a complete edition with all DLCs and extra content", has over 1000 DLCs on the ps4. :)
@xenrusxenomorph2268
@xenrusxenomorph2268 6 жыл бұрын
くんマフムード yes
@ThePizzaDemon
@ThePizzaDemon 6 жыл бұрын
くんマフムード and it's dead now with no answer as to whether there will be a 6, or if the just gave up on the series.
@straightedge891
@straightedge891 6 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the game for free and play a quick arcade round here and there but those DLC packs, jesus christ
@ThePizzaDemon
@ThePizzaDemon 6 жыл бұрын
straightedge891 I am kinda glad that it's free and you can just pay for the characters you want but I can say the dlc is crazy.. again online is dead. Nice thank you to the people that like your game to fucking kill it on them after dumping a shit load of dlc.
@crazysnas181
@crazysnas181 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm surprised more people haven't noticed that tbh. There's like 5 season passes at £100 each...
@Maderyne
@Maderyne 6 жыл бұрын
I have played Dynasty Warriors throughout the years, yet still find Dynasty Warrior 5 to be the one I enjoy the most, followed by Dynasty Warriors 4. All the rest, while I played them, soon became just another shelf game, collecting dust. I think I will pass on this 9th iteration. I enjoyed your review, and agree that the series has lost its way over the years.
@murfeel1173
@murfeel1173 4 жыл бұрын
Same, 5 was great! I started falling off of Dynasty Warriors at 6 and got into Samurai Warriors instead. But Orochi's my ultimate favorite. If you're gonna asset flip, at least make it an AU fantasy spinoff.
@HungImmbasa
@HungImmbasa 6 жыл бұрын
Tecmo Koei announced the PC version will have the Japanese/Traditional & Simplified Chinese localization very soon, which internet communities call out that localization files originally in the game files...... WHY CUT THE CORNER AND UNDO THIS WHEN LOCALIZATION WAS ALREADY DONE?
@richardpell
@richardpell 6 жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT I was a Koei/DW fan boy until 9 came out. Then I realized what separated me from them. I was able to say "I love the franchise and many other Koei games, but this needed to be scrapped at the drawing board. Or at least picked apart for the pieces that work."
@Yukatoshi
@Yukatoshi 6 жыл бұрын
You think the DLC is bad in Dynasty Warriors? Try Dead or Alive 5. It has 9 (yes, NINE!!) Season Passes, and the total amount of DLC is around 300!! The total cost is in the 1000s of dollars. I’ve literally never seen a game with anywhere near as much DLC. The worst thing is is that the actual gameplay is solid. They just went fucking insane with the DLC greed....
@FarnhamTheDrunk1
@FarnhamTheDrunk1 6 жыл бұрын
wow, who cares about costumes in a fighting game... literally nobody. DOA5 costs 3 bucks on psn for the core fighters, so who cares if there are 1000 of costumes, i can play the game for 3 bucks ^^ (and i do)
@agentrevenge3370
@agentrevenge3370 6 жыл бұрын
Jim did a video on that already.
@pandasbass7267
@pandasbass7267 6 жыл бұрын
Either way the game is free lol
@Yukatoshi
@Yukatoshi 6 жыл бұрын
Mitzos SirReal Corefighters is free for me. Do they charge you in the U.S.?
@Yukatoshi
@Yukatoshi 6 жыл бұрын
Agent Revenge On DOA's DLC?
@LordofAoD
@LordofAoD 4 жыл бұрын
To date, I have played every single Dynasty Warriors, expansion and spinoff since DW2. Dynasty Warriors 9 is the only game in the entire franchise in which I can't find something to enjoy. Tecmo-Koei did a fantastic job of fucking up one of the simplest game series on the market. It would be impressive if it didn't fucking suck so much.
@ByTheLake81
@ByTheLake81 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god for Jim Sterling.
@YTYianYan
@YTYianYan 6 жыл бұрын
Did someone officially from KT seriously try to sell the genericization of all the movesets as "realism"? It's 100% money/laziness. It's, at best (and not a really good "best") a lack of time to fit them/make them in the "new action system". It's honestly just for selling later, though :(
@mokinokaro
@mokinokaro 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably more about the engine switch. Every time they switched engines they had to remove some of the more unique weapons for the first version.
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's realism, but also not entirely a "laziness" issue. I feel the game was rushed to a degree rather than being lazy. There are some very non-lazy details not covered by these videos, if you look for them, like how they added more story connections absent from previous titles.
@TheFlameSlayer
@TheFlameSlayer 6 жыл бұрын
i think the realism thing that KT said was completley a joke. like no one could cast magic or have fire, ice, poison or lighting come out of a sword or fan . no one used boomerangs in ancient china and such.
@ZeroMayhemZX
@ZeroMayhemZX 6 жыл бұрын
The idea that as a FAN of something you should not be critical of it has always baffled me. Honest critiques and evaluations of something you like is healthy. Complacency and blind allegiance to a brand doesn't help the brand. If a company just has to slap the right logo on something to get people to open their wallets then where is their incentive to grow and improve?
@DeathBringer769
@DeathBringer769 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought love is respect, and respect is honesty... and if you're the biggest fan of something, of course you love it, and that's where the seemingly "harsh" criticism comes from. I don't get how people don't see that either...
@joemorford732
@joemorford732 6 жыл бұрын
so true! well said
@LosgehtsFCB
@LosgehtsFCB 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. I hate when people say you aren't a fan of something just because you point out it's flaws.
@MissiGNO000
@MissiGNO000 6 жыл бұрын
Zero Mayhem The internet is full of SKELETON WARRIORS!!
@Arbron
@Arbron 6 жыл бұрын
Fans of something are *the* group of people who should be most critical of it. That's where the stakes are. If you have nothing to do with something, what relevance does your criticism really have? Objectively it's still valid, but it doesn't come from a place of vested interest.
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 6 жыл бұрын
My only real experience with the warriors series is Hyrule. Its crazy to see the change in quality in just a few titles.
@MissiGNO000
@MissiGNO000 6 жыл бұрын
Drink a Beer and Play a Game Play the Fire Emblem one, it's very good
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 6 жыл бұрын
picked it up recently but haven't gotten to play yet, will give it a go this week
@strugglesnuggledslime7040
@strugglesnuggledslime7040 6 жыл бұрын
Well lets be honest here,Hyrule was kind of outstanding even for a fan of the series. Dont expect that level of quality if you decide to continue going further.
@SmaMan
@SmaMan 6 жыл бұрын
I played Dynasty Warriors Gundam years ago, and later picked up Hyrule Warriors. I enjoyed them both and saw improvement between even those two titles. (Then again, I LOVE beat 'em ups/hack n' slashes) I have Warriors All-Stars and DW2 still in shrink wrap. I'm wondering if I'll enjoy them as much?
@strugglesnuggledslime7040
@strugglesnuggledslime7040 6 жыл бұрын
DW2? Unlikely,that game aged poorly to a hilarious degree.
@darkicedragon1988
@darkicedragon1988 6 жыл бұрын
This game is unmitigated disaster on PC, did you not know that apparently koei didnt want the PC users to have access to the Chinese dub, they only want the PS4 players to get access to the Chinese dub voices so they sent out a patch instead of fixing the numerous bugs and issues. The patch only took out the Mandarin voice overs so now Chinese dub on PC isn't even a selectable option anymore. That was the thing that Koei thought should have been the first thing to get fixed. This game is optimized so poorly that it is rated as the worst running game on every console even when it's put in the action mode and on PC it's not even playable for most people. But koei thought that the Chinese dub on PC was the first thing that needs to get addressed....
@paulsheldon8838
@paulsheldon8838 6 жыл бұрын
SKELETON WARRIORS - new and shiny spin off of Dynasty games
@darkjammin79
@darkjammin79 6 жыл бұрын
Ambitious is not a defense. As are graphics at the expense of gameplay. The open world symptom is something most gamers developed an awareness of quite some time ago as that trend is nearly as big a warning as 'Procedural generated content'. You know, kinda made many wait until the reviews came in with those selling points
@DeathBringer769
@DeathBringer769 6 жыл бұрын
Being overly ambitious to the point of detriment is actually a flaw, not an admirable trait or defense. Ambition is only useful if you can control it, limit it to the point where it's useful, just like confidence. Once you fall to overconfidence or stubborn over-ambitiousness, you have no one to blame but yourself.
@pyrojinn
@pyrojinn 6 жыл бұрын
And here we have Minecraft and No Man’s Sky, procedurally-generated open world games. But then Minecraft is actually pretty good.
@Tippssy
@Tippssy 6 жыл бұрын
3 was great. 4 was pretty good. 5 was great. 6 was garbage if I'm being nice about it. Didn't play 7. 8 is incredible.
@Elleraiser
@Elleraiser 6 жыл бұрын
even fire emblem warriors, which has a lot of the great design from hyrule warriors, also has a bunch of fucking clones, including the dlc characters you have to pay for!
@TheTopgeartony
@TheTopgeartony 6 жыл бұрын
I want the add that the complete editions don't even include the DLC from the base editions. Also I like to imagine you reusing the clips and voice over from last weeks Jimpression was partly a joke since Koei recycle a lot
@dennett316
@dennett316 6 жыл бұрын
Why imagine it? He says that's exactly why he's doing it just before he plays the clips.
@shovelest6861
@shovelest6861 6 жыл бұрын
DW3 was the only one i played and it was real fun back then...You did not want to mess with Lu Bu at Hu Lao gate on the hardest difficulty!
@samuelcarter4244
@samuelcarter4244 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, It was easy. Go to XL and play the Very Hard difficulty on Lu Bu's He Fei Castle. That level is where it's at.
@lostevesy
@lostevesy 6 жыл бұрын
Shovel est me too, 3-5 probably my fave ones. Played the dw3 demo so many times before I got the game
@disaffected_malcontent
@disaffected_malcontent 3 жыл бұрын
They had such a good foundation with DW 7 and DW 8, they could have really taken the concepts and ideas from those games and used them to shape an amazing future for the series, in my opinion. I love dynasty warriors so much and have been playing since DW 5.
@MK0437
@MK0437 7 ай бұрын
They had the perfect foundation with DW3, and after DW4, started drifting away from it and now here we are
@disaffected_malcontent
@disaffected_malcontent 7 ай бұрын
@@MK0437 I guess so but it's older. how was DW3 so good?
@mikethegrunty5968
@mikethegrunty5968 5 жыл бұрын
Never forget what they DID to zhang he
@nabidisla.5086
@nabidisla.5086 6 жыл бұрын
Damm So much Good content from Jim lately
@cashnelson2306
@cashnelson2306 6 жыл бұрын
Been very hype for this one since the Jimpressions... I'm not a big fan of Dynasty Warriors, but I am a big fan of Jim Sterling ripping into terrible games. edit jesus christ, "autoerotic assetflipsiation" just how proud were you when you came up with that one
@AethrusTheBicorn
@AethrusTheBicorn 6 жыл бұрын
Dear god I love this game back when I played 3 and wanted so much more it was a great time and like you said Jim it was magic also give us the claws back...those beautiful...beautiful claws. BTW I just found your channel today and love it so far can't wait to watch more.
@kekpennies3882
@kekpennies3882 6 жыл бұрын
The "Realism" cuts made me laugh so much! Great video! New to the channel, but I plan to stay around! Keep up the good work!
@influentialdiscovery592
@influentialdiscovery592 6 жыл бұрын
I know Dynasty Warriors has ever been the most successful franchise, but going open world is a terrible idea. It does not work with the Dynasty Warriors formula. Linear levels are a must. It makes the game chaotic and action-packed. Making it open world ruins the fun. Nobody wants to run around for 10 mins to fight one general.
@rashidi100
@rashidi100 6 жыл бұрын
InfluentialDiscovery but that's because it's empty lol. a bigger play area requires more content, but also more structuring of that content so it flows properly. just making it bigger is always a terrible idea.
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier 6 жыл бұрын
I would have loved a legitimate open-world massive battle, like if they made a big world, and then actually filled it with actual things. Unfortunately, they either couldn't due to tech, or just couldn't be bothered. So if they couldn't do it, they shouldn't have done it.
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 6 жыл бұрын
So you say, but...I can see people enjoying the game, outside of this comment section.
@Yukatoshi
@Yukatoshi 6 жыл бұрын
InfluentialDiscovery I’d say the same for Monster Hunter: World. It just makes things tedious as fuck to go places. The old MH system was so much simpler.
@Rynjinivar
@Rynjinivar 6 жыл бұрын
I can see ways it could have worked, if they weren't lazy fucks. Adding a bit of strategic element to driving enemy armies out and holding territory between the major battles, and shaking up that status quo with periodic time skips that act as "new levels" populated with different army make-ups and grand strategic objectives that can be done in any order, for example.
@EastyyBlogspot
@EastyyBlogspot 6 жыл бұрын
He should check the amount of DLC they did with dead or alive
@Reaverbot7
@Reaverbot7 6 жыл бұрын
Eastyy I stopped checking when they went past $100. That was years ago. What are they at now?
@EastyyBlogspot
@EastyyBlogspot 6 жыл бұрын
Checked and all the dlc came to 1267.29 euro
@EastyyBlogspot
@EastyyBlogspot 6 жыл бұрын
Example of DLC includes Buy DOA5LR DLC1251 Swimwear Gravure Set See the ladies of DOA soak up some sun in 54 swimsuits and 16 movies: ・12 Hot Getaway costumes ・14 Ultimate Sexy costumes ・14 Tropical Sexy costumes ・4 Showstoppers costumes ・4 New Challengers costumes ・2 Last Getaway costumes ・4 Premier Sexy costumes ・16 Private Paradise movies all for 59.99
@Reaverbot7
@Reaverbot7 6 жыл бұрын
Fucking hell. That is a lot of money to sink into a single mediocre game. I wonder if anyone actually bought all that shit.
@JuanCarlos-sq4vf
@JuanCarlos-sq4vf 6 жыл бұрын
As a long time fan of the series and the extreme series I couldn’t believe ether but it was the fact that DOAX3 wasn’t going to be on Xbox that broke me my heart
@THEBULLETPROOFKINGDOM
@THEBULLETPROOFKINGDOM 6 жыл бұрын
2:40 Sun Quan must be rolling in his grave at he sight of a tiger helplessly getting shot over and over again...
@WillF1994
@WillF1994 6 жыл бұрын
That realism music cue made me all nostalgic for dynasty warriors 5. I, too, am overwhelmed by all the Warriors games but if Jim says 8 complete is a great one, I may have to get back into this series 😊
@Quasis
@Quasis 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, so monday really IS comming ^^ Don't worry Hyrule Warrior switch is comming to cheer you up Jim!
@SilverGaming01
@SilverGaming01 6 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong fan of the Warriors series I have a couple of things to say. For me, a massive amount of atmosphere is missing from Dynasty Warriors 9. The basis upon which I want to make that argument? The Battle of Fan Castle in Dynasty Warriors 8. The aforementioned game has so many emotional moments between certain members of the cast at times, in comparison to its new successor. 'Solo', the song that plays during 8's Fan Castle stage, is perhaps one of the most emotional pieces of music I’ve ever heard period, let alone in Dynasty Warriors. It worked alongside the Guan family and their tense moment of discussion in the opening cutscene to create something special. People can say I'm complaining for no reason as much as they like, but this is the second game series I care about to leave me disappointed in recent memory. Kinda getting tired of the reasons I still game letting me down. Dynasty Warriors characters had soul and personality to them before this… and sadly Tecmo Koei want to forget that this time around. Laugh as much as you like, but yes, I, like Jim, I assume, played the game for its characters. That is why I have such a problem with this newest 'offering' we've had slapped in our collective laps as a fanbase.
@jackdaalfbrainork6392
@jackdaalfbrainork6392 6 жыл бұрын
Deer god... The voice acting in the intro...holy shit
@austinkersey2445
@austinkersey2445 5 жыл бұрын
It was truly God-tier. I Mel Blanc would be proud of it.
@MisterCreazil233
@MisterCreazil233 6 жыл бұрын
Bought Hyrule Warriors on the Switch. Played it split screen with my brother for 10 hours straight. I did not expect to love it so much. I'm now waiting for DW8XLCE to turn up today to try the proper series it came from. I was going to get 9 until I saw your videos on it. I went with 8XLCE instead.
@steveejohnson7932
@steveejohnson7932 6 жыл бұрын
This is a really well-edited jimquisition. I can really tell how much you like(d?) the series, and how dissapointed you are in tech-mo-money.
@elijahnakumura4375
@elijahnakumura4375 6 жыл бұрын
I never understood why they didn't use the 3 way battles from Samurai Warriors more. Of all the things recycled they left out some of the coolest
@elijahnakumura4375
@elijahnakumura4375 6 жыл бұрын
A Neil Those were soo good
@WFoong98
@WFoong98 6 жыл бұрын
Also the combat too, still boggles my mind how Samurai Warrior can be somewhat more complex but Dynasty is so basic.
@TheSamuraiGoomba
@TheSamuraiGoomba 6 жыл бұрын
I never understood why they didn't take gameplay improvements from pirate warriors 3, shin gundam musou, samurai warriors and ken's rage and put them into their mainline games. The combo strings are just too small compared to games like pirate warriors 3.
@justmymage
@justmymage 6 жыл бұрын
Jim you bloody aced the victory outro bit with the realism. Brilliant!
@CommissarMitch
@CommissarMitch Жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2022 just gives a different vibe than when I watched it on release.
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