Its still there and always was. The amazing potential of this game. However, WG buried it under a Himalaya level pile of toxic bullshit...

@Flamuu I started playing just as the British light cruiser line was released. My grandfather having served on those ships during WW2 made them my only choice. As I was grinding through Emerald, no crazy xp flags back then, I kept blowing up from single salvos. For a while I was convinced I was simply a terrible player. Yet that trauma was vital, reaching Neptune I fell in love. Under no illusions that I was any less vulnerable than the Emerald you had to play smart, cautious but opportunistic otherwise the limited range left you ineffectual. Nearly every match was an adrenaline rush. Fulfilling your role as a dd hunter left you exposed, but the thrill of charging 3 dds with hydro, juking the bbs was unreal. After that I played US dds, loved them. Very similar role, knife fighting at caps. When I tried bbs, god it was boring, where was the thrill? Then they started lowering citadels making it even less risk-reward based. CVs ruined the game for me, purely because of spotting. I could be deftly playing around my Minos stealth just for a CV to spot and be dev struck, the same with DDs. Playing BBs up to t10 (despite the boredom) I didn't mind CVs, even though their dreaded cross strikes were deadly your position was known anyway and you could shadow an anti-air cruiser. You could still play your own game. With dds one of my biggest joys was spotting for the team, I was more than happy to forgo damage from smoking up. Protecting my BBs by spotting then hunting down Shimas was so rewarding. But a CV comes into the match, suddenly your spotting is worthless. Worse than that, by trying to spot you made yourself vulnerable to the enemy CV painting a target and are now far too close to the enemy. I stopped playing around the CV rework. I remember replying to you on reddit about a year before its release saying the only thing I wanted was for CV spotting to be like cyclones, minimap only. I had little interest in coming back when the only thing they didn't change about the CV mechanics was spotting. Subs are just an extension of that, what point is there to a dd when cvs and subs do it all better. Now they are more like bbs, there to do damage. Sorry for the long comment, but what you said triggered some old Mino memories in me and I genuinely started to feel the original adrenaline. I still watch pretty much every video you and flambass put out. It scratches the WoWs itch without the torment. Thank you for the endless hours of enjoyment you have provided me.

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and they switch colors like switching team’s cause sometimes it might aswell be a 23v1

YY gets torp reload booster though, think it was probably a second boosted volley, though Vlad was still dumb for putting an island between his escape path and the entire enemy team. I think it was reload booster because the only torpedo path where that makes sense would be fired from where the Balao was last spotted, but we see the YY near where the Edinburgh is 30 seconds later. No matter how fast the YY is I don't think it could reposition that fast, plus it makes more sense that it would want to torp Yamas broadside, rather than nose in. But still terrible for both BBs to push there, Yama was stupidly committed but Vlad had the opportunity to turn around and go defensive.

so just your typical dented BB players

flolo moment

I wonder whos fault is that?

@@mr.skully8787 sub players and wargaming.

Nah. The lack of radiolocation skill that was removed from bbs..... When that was avaliable, I had it on all bbs.

but SS are allowed in ranked & brawls now.......

Last I played wows I witnessed so many dds suicide it was unreal and of course I'd be stuck the only dd alive as I'm in a gunboat

RL works on *surfaced* SS only tho

@@Pepega_Ch Of course subs are exempt except when they are surfaced. At least they can't stay under indefinitely.

Yup. I was wondering what he was doing too, then I saw the notification that the Balao had killed him and I was like, "oh, he was getting griefed by the submarine"

yes they do have super heavy ap but it gives them nothing its just a heavy ap shell it doesnt get inproved ap pen angles or nothing

Even if BB/Crusiers?

@@eiresby2344 they can only go under DDs

@@Manticore2026 well thats common sense for PAsian DW. Yeah the video show DD but he said just teammate so i thought BB/Cruisers also could since i dont grind any PAsian line

Pretty sure he was waiting to see whether the enemy was committing to the full turn or not xD

@Mathew Long Yes, i do because he says "Okay, get out of the way pls". I am sure Flamu knows that but he simply forgot it (as I usually do as well, when I am plying Pan-Asian ships). This is only a hint to the crowed watching this video and may get confused about his acting.

yes they do have super heavy ap but it gives them nothing its just a heavy ap shell it doesnt get inproved ap pen angles or nothing

Super-heavy AP is a tier 3 BB Commander skill.

@@leebenson4874 lol we are not on about commander skills its a thing that was designed primarly for american heavy cruisers, its baked in not a skill

For a player that knows what they are doing it is super easy to spot a red player that has skills. If you are playing well and correctly, it is obvious and you WILL be focused by other skilled players. So...good job, I guess?

@@Matthew10950 no...the ones who are focused are the ones that make themselves easy to focus...if you feel like you are being focused an unusually frequent number of times either its in your head and you are being focused no more or less than anyone else, but get upset whenever you are focused at all, or your positioning is shit and you should be conscious of that and work on it

That's giving me a reason to play submarine

@@dzello feghs gonna fegh^^