jus literally learned more in this half hour about boards than I have my whole life

Thanks guys! Loved it! Pyzel you should do this with Koa and Nate. Would love to hear their stories with your boards.

I used to work for the NZ distributor & can confirm you guys have the best boards. From Anahola to Aotearoa!💪 Shred On Brothers!!💯

This was super interesting & informative, not just about the 2 Pyzel boards, but info on things to look for & info from fins to intricacies of board shapes. I was enthralled every moment of this. Thank you both!

Love your work John John and Pyzel appreciate both of you

Classic! Thanks for the smiles! Happy Easter!

This was great, thanks. Informative, funny and great to see what a strong relationship you guys seem to have, way beyond surfer/shaper. Keep posting these!

That was fun to watch. Would be great if you guys do more of these. 🤙🏽 Love the shaping insight also, like the story with the tape layers on the rails😂

Ghost is a revolutionary board ! ✨Thank you 🙏🏼 JP & JJ

FUN! Thanks John and Jon! Plz do more of these

I love all of your content. I've seen several series and I can't get enough. Plus, I will never tire of looking at that gorgeous face!

Sensei and The Grasshopper ! Good stuff here. Thank you JJF and Sir Pyzel for sharing some knowledge and wisdom! Aloha and blessings

Loving the uptick in content John! Keep it coming

Cool video guys. Appreciate you guys are taking the boards and other stuff so seriously 😷🤙 The fins were a nice revelation to me. 🤯

Just bought a shadow, and first wave noticed the difference! nice and sharp and good reaction. Love it! Matched with Futures fins.

I like the shaper and rider discussion. Thank you John John and Pyzel. I am learning the Art of Shaping . My first mentor and shaper for my Boards was Rick Nohea in Santa Cruz. Good work. J. Insco Jr San Francisco CA 1:11 pm 4/9/2020 at the house.

Would you make podcasts? Like if you want them too because then we could hear their talks everywhere :)

Loving the revamp of the channel recently

It was great! Thank you so much for this really cool video 🤙 can’t wait for the next one 😉 take care and stay safe guys!

Great insights into surfing feel and board design

Dude awesome, thank you! 🤙🏽 I learn a lot with this video, and the space between you two sittings down far apart (I know because of social distances) but even in the future keep using it, it was nice to see how we can still watch old footages been fit in between you two, wile you guys explain the difference on the boards design 🤙🏽

What a class!! Thank u Jhon and Pyzel!

Yes! More of these please! Good stuff

This is great. You guys should do more long form stuff like this. Interesting to hear about the thought that goes into the design.

Thank you, guys. Very cool. I’ve enjoyed my 6’2 Ghost. Super solid in good waves.

Would love more videos like this! Lol I’ve watched this video like 6x since it came out just to hear how you and Pyzel break down a board

These videos are awesome!!

Absolutely amazing.

more of these for sure!! awesome info and insight!

this was awesome. would love to see more

dopeeeee keep the videos coming john john. us fans want to see more of what you do in your everyday life

That was so sick thank you both for the insight

learned so much in these 30 minutes. love listening to you guys talk about board design. please keep it up!!

Super Surfer & Super Shaper! Thanks for the professional development on " Ghost" & " Shadow" 🌊

Great listen. Love the comparison of fins to airplane wings. I have been trying to convince a friend that bigger waves = smaller fins with no success. If I can't convince him with you guys and that analogy then he's a lost cause. Cool to listen in depth about the pro surfer - shaper relationship, especially for those who live far away from a good shaper.

John John your youtube content is on fire mate. Killan the game

Awesome video, I learnt so much from it, thank you JJF and Jon

love content with jon pyzel

Enjoyed this video, used to airbrush boards back in early 1970's. Laid back social distance a lot of good information.

Yes, do more! Loved it! 5 layers of masking tape ☑️

Great chat, keep them coming 👌🏽

Awesome segment! Keep em comming

These boards look awesome. Great craftsmanship and athlete! I wish I could have a collection of these hahaha

It's not just the flex of the timber stringer that changes over time with use, PU foam cells break down and lose memory with every flex, the extreme example of this is that PU foam they use in vases for flowers that you can crush, on a lesser scale this is what happens with PU surfboard foam as the foal flexes the cells crush and dont return to their previous shape. PE resin also never stops curing so gets more brittle with age, these three combinations mean the feel and flex of a PU/PE board changes over time. EPS foam on the other hand has very good memory it bounces back to shape as does Epoxy resin, Epoxy resin also when cured thats it, it does change, so an EPS/Epoxy surfboard as long as water tight changes very little with age. This is the reason why a PU/PE board when new feels lively but over time can lose this feel, while EPS/Epoxy boards tend to keep that lively feel. But yeah there are other pros and cons to both constructions from a surfing feel perspective.

No fudging now...love it. Such a head game some times.

Love this! Please give us more

I can't wait to get a Ghost, that thing looks like it goes to town in 3 foot and above. I love how it was shapped as a bigger board and then squashed at the top. Genius! K - Next Question!

Realy realy Goossens vidéo ! Thinkerview you so much for all the shape détails!!!

JJF can make any boards work like the best of bests I reckon

Never wanted a new board so badly after watching this. Would love to know the exact fins John prefers in the Shadow.

A "nice" alley oop. Like 8 feet out! Still one of the best ever pulled. 👍

Anyone else get super anxious when that ghost was leaning on a tilt?

It’s 2 am and I’m stoked

I had one of the collaboration boards that pyzel and matt made together, it was the best board I have ever had and I just want another one.

I love my shadow! It took me a sec to get used to that little hip but once I adjusted to when the little release happens it was super fun. Knifey rails, narrow outline for a daily driver (but great hidden foam under the chest), and wide point pretty centered. Solid blade.

Just got a brand new Ghost so stoked cant wait to try

Please do more of this!

Good Lord, that first turn ...

So love these smart to be smart interviews 😆 I learned to water ski when I was 7. My parents put tennis shoes in the skis and away I went. Slaloming at 10. Wish I would of learned how to surf.

Just what I needed. 🤙

amazing review

I usually surf a 5’10 shortboard (performance). Then my friend told me to use his 6’1” Ghost. So easy to get in the waves. Made me more confident on getting in to bigger waves. What I noticed from the board is, yes it’s wide point is a little further up front. But I also notice it’s thicker at the tail area. Maybe that’s the formula. 🤔. Btw I bought this board from my friend ASAP. Now I want a Shadow XL 5’10 stock dimensions. Just wished we can rent boards before we buy. AWAYCO is a hit or miss.

This was extremely educational

I got a 7.0 Tank for big Northern Oregon winter surf. Damn, the thing is _awesome._

Great vid!! I learned so much! Sucks that Hossegor isn't on tour anymore

John, "I'm so over this question. Next question!"

could listen this for hours. my take away is... i'm definitely going to experiment and swap up my fins. put my big wave fins on my small boards and vice versa, been doing it wrong for decades :) don't know when my next surf will be, this time of year normally hyping about getting up to Sumatra...think about all those waves going unridden this year..its crazy times. nature is cruel mistress, and she's telling us to change our ways...thats how i see it. we all gotta play by the rules to get outta this..cheers guys

Yooo Brian King Turtle is my boy!!! When he came to NY I used to bring him around and show him all the spots! He’s a funny dude I miss that guy! The winters here were brutal and he was like you guys are fucked up and this cold shit lol...we gave him a suit one day he put it on backwards had the back zip in the front we were laughing our balls off! King is the Man! He was living here and surfing with me and a few other bone heads and 911 happened and it got real sketch and heavy here...that was the last time I saw King!!!... I’m glad he is well...Tell Em King Flip Runs NY!!! Make the Movie King make it about the Flip🏄‍♂️🌎☠️ the Real underground ...not the shit the worlds been fed...that’s why the scene is upside down it was never told right

So good!

Amazing tech talk👌

Much respect!

Loved it, keep it up

Amazing. Absolute genius. Nothing less then #OfTheEpic. #LetsPaddleOut

Great discussion. Thanks.

I just need a board that's gonna squirt a lil bit

2 weeks into lock down, can hear the waves, soon people... stay safe brother and sisters

❤ firstly, i like the cat cameo :) secondly, great discussion on those boards and designs, and if i was going to select pyzels, it would be those two in my 'quiv'. first board, a shadow. and if only choosing one board, a shadow. and if only choosing one board in a couple different sizes, a shadow. for sure a 6'6" shadow, and maybe like a 6'2". its interesting to me to learn that the ghost is more 'befitting' for larger than head high waves, and shape, as i would have though the shadow perfect for anything with steep, hollow, fast, or powerful, large, characteristics. although, shape that shadow at 6'6", 6'8' or larger, and i would think it would charge anything. perhaps im merely attracted to the outline, pulled in nose, beautiful exquisite nose rocker (that thing would be ideal for late drops straight into the tube) and still yet maneuverable, responsive, volume. also, i happen to believe that added nose weight on slightly longer 'short' boards is a benefit for added momentum, power, and stability, especially on thicker more powerful lips, or added stability in messier yet punchy conditions. but then again, im not a contemporary style surfer. my boards never catch air, unless jumping out the back of a wave, and im more about tubes (even when there arent any :) and carving. im more 80s old skool, or, now, just simply old :)

Awesome informations and cool that you wear your watch on the right side, me too and I get asked about it often haha u rock dude

Jon, can you please make a vid like this about the Radius? Do any of your pros prefer it to the Shadow?

You guys are spot on. I’ve tried to take a few of my more higher volume Texas boards into bigger surf just for the increased paddling, but in good waves it feels like the board is skating on top of the water. The rails will not sink into the waves, the speed is too fast, you can’t turn at all, it’s basically out of control. The minute I switch to a smaller thinner board with less volume, I get control of the board and the drops are so much easier to make because I’m not flying down the face like a cork, but more buried into the wave. It slows the speed down and you actually gain way more control of the board.

Love this talk. Home workout next?

Am I the only one who was afraid of the Ghost falling the whole time after JJ touched it? Sick vid guys, so interesting to hear your thoughts on these models in a longer form video.

Great video! Mahalos from Uruguay!!!

That was way cool. Thanks

Sick boards

This is great

This was a great video. Mahalo!

When you posting 'VELA' can't wait to see it! Yeewwww

Yup

Curious about their thoughts on riding a single fin!

amazing

Those Pyzel x Mayhem collab boards looked so epic! Re-release?

love it

@pyzel is that lavender hand sanitizer? I got the same stuff. Keeps me Rona-free and helps me smell decent.

Wat a great sharper n surfer relenship..🇳🇿🤙

Can we pls have more of these!!!

Rad. Learned a lot. John rips stra-tup.

Made a video with pyzel, shaping a board and tell what was ur choice for that board and why

Pyzalien 2 vs Phantom or Astro Pop vs Happy Twin? Looks like there will be some waves to test on this week if you are bored.

I really want a Paddillac. Amazing looking board (I can't big wave surf, I just want to put on the wall and appreciate the artistry)