JK Rowling hate law posts not criminal, police say

JK Rowling hate law posts not criminal, police say | BBC News

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2 ай бұрын

Social media comments made by JK Rowling challenging Scotland's new hate crime law are not being treated as criminal, Police Scotland has said.
The Harry Potter author described several transgender women as men, including convicted prisoners, trans activists and other public figures.
The new law creates a new crime of "stirring up hatred" relating to protected characteristics.
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@brazenbunnies 2 ай бұрын

Scotland must have zero crime, if the police have time for this

@JohnSmith-fz1wh 2 ай бұрын

They refuse to investigate any real crimes.

@user-ko9tc4pr4l 2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-fz1wh Real crimes are too difficult for them. Far easier to follow up twitter comments and tiktoks than get out and do the hard work of tracking down actual criminals committing physical crimes. Keeps their Solved cases ratio up when reporting crime stats.

@djohnston6856 2 ай бұрын

Time for Rowling's hyperbole? Can't you see the headline? The posts are not criminal

@sebastianguerre6868 2 ай бұрын

Galileo was arrested for saying that the earth isn't at the centre of the universe. There are many historical precedents for people being arrested for stating scientific facts.

@berniemckinley4988 2 ай бұрын

And so much money to spend of such “crimes” And so many police to “spare” And the police must have so much “time” with nothing “serious” happening And the FULL support of ALL the population not just a very minor, minor few MEN And no it’s not absurd 🤦🏻‍♀️

@dannyarcher6370 2 ай бұрын

Well, she's set the precedent now. She's got them on record.

@dorseyjack3206 2 ай бұрын

The gender part of the law is a smoke screen, the law is there to protect and to give a certain religious demographic power over others. Can't think for the life of me which one that would be.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

Problem is the vagueness of the law in itself. Also that it contradicts reality. It's along the lines of a religious law dictating what you can and cannot say.

@bobbailey7024 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ds8rj2vc4v I wonder why? Sharia law next for Scotland? Time to wake up and stop voting for the idiot and his party.

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

Girl arrested and convicted for writing racial slur on interwebs. The words were part of JZ rap lyrics. JZ goes on stage at Glastonbury and says the same thing to thousands and thousands of people. JZ not even questioned by police. Precedents don't count in societies with two tier policing

@problemsolver3254 2 ай бұрын

on record for what.

@djmikio 2 ай бұрын

Reading Orwell as a kid I never thought I'd see the day where the institution of a ""thoughtcrime" actually became law.

@rankinlas 2 ай бұрын

My car was vandalised in Aberdeen. I saw them do it, I took a photo of the people and their vehicle. The police, after finally getting through to them, went to the registered keeper of their car. They denied it and the case was closed. Truly pathetic. But let’s get arrested and charged for a bloody tweet. I’m ashamed

@Janton17 2 ай бұрын

Speaks volumes for Police in the UK. Criminal damage is never followed up. As a fellow person of the NE of Scotland, the Police up here are so useless.

@Hathur 2 ай бұрын

Pay attention. Police said they will NOT arrest her or anyone for tweets (short of a clearly stated death threat directed at someone specific).

@rankinlas 2 ай бұрын

@@Hathur They will. No one Should ever legislate words. There will 100% be spurious arrests and charges made. ‘Perceived to be’ is frighteningly stupid and dangerous. JKR is big enough and powerful enough… The rest of us aren’t.

@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 2 ай бұрын

@@HathurWhy let facts get in the way of blind rage?

@amyshoneye5455 2 ай бұрын

Don't be 😢 The shame isn't yours to hold my love 😘❤️🙏

@manazon6945 2 ай бұрын

this is hamza yousaf's attempt at blasphemy laws. he is NOT concerned about trans people or racial discrimination. his only concern is to STOP criticism of islam.

@macjj1733 2 ай бұрын

This is wild that it's even a discussion

@blabla5938 2 ай бұрын

She made it a discussion though no one was even thinking about arresting her until she tweeted that she expected to be and the police had to clarriffy to everyone that, that was something she made up herself and they were never even considering arresting her.

@exp-eri-mental 2 ай бұрын

@@blabla5938 are you slow? Have you actually read about the law and what it implies?

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

@@blabla5938 That was literally the law they introduced.

@_Phoenix3 2 ай бұрын

Celebrities and politicians will get away with it, but the average person will be charged! Just watch, it's "rules for thee but not for me"!🤫

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

1. She isn't in Scotland so she can't break the law in Scotland 2. Being offensive isn't illegal. Do some research.

@_Phoenix3 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 1. I didn't say it was, did I! 2. What did I say?

@adamw8579 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038Literally a law called "threatening and abusive behaviour", google it. Scotland's gone full retard.@julianshepherd2038

@curiositycloset2359 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038are you serious? It's literally an offence to be grossly offensive. Do you live in a hole? Ask the man arrested for teaching his dog to salute

@HungNguyen-fy8hf 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 "2. Being offensive isn't illegal. Do some research." Yeah, the same rule makes by the Scottish Parliament literally says otherwise. And yes, comedians and actors are targeted by this rule, even in the context of comedy.

@grimdicer152 2 ай бұрын

Blasphemy laws by the back door.

@johnr.b.murray3417 2 ай бұрын

In Russia the Protocols of Zion was a banned book that could get the owner murdered by the state. I wonder what caste was behind that ruling?

@titteryenot4524 2 ай бұрын

Is that a euphemism? 🤔

@jeremywilson2875 2 ай бұрын

Right. A lot of conversation has been around enforcing trans-ideology and removing women as a protected group. But this law is also an end run around the UKs long standing anti-blasphemy laws that say you can't be prosecuted for saying something that someone else considers blasphemous (last prosecution was in 1697). This has been a complaint of muslims in the UK who feel that any criticism of Islam, drawing an image of Muhammad, etc is a hate-crime against their religion. So now the muslim First Minister has pushed through this law that could be used to criminalize any criticism of Islam.

@James-gf9jl 2 ай бұрын

@@titteryenot4524 Tee hee!

@user-vo3de1dz9b 2 ай бұрын

Of course it is,,,Sharia Law next on the agenda 🤬

@ydnallah1541 2 ай бұрын

Knock knock, Who’s there? Not the Scotsman, he got arrested for telling a joke

@srinivasarajarao9965 2 ай бұрын

@ianfounds1373 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like Scotland has gone insane.

@backintimealwyn5736 2 ай бұрын

It has gone Youcef. They did'nt chose this , it was imposed on them.

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

Like Sturgeon was any better

@Flaggyt 2 ай бұрын

Pretty much this. I always thought the Scottish were sober down to earth people, been there many a time and can't see the Scottish and this stupid law together. England? Yeah sure they lost the plot long ago, but Scotland? This can't be right. There must be something really wrong in your government right now and I hope you can weed it out cause I love Scotland and the Scottish.

@purplepoppyz 2 ай бұрын

The problem with this law is that it does not define anything. It’s been left up to the police to decide what the law means. Of course that will go well 🙄

@nUmBskulLL 2 ай бұрын

That's not quite correct. It based on case law so it's good that the precedent was set here to not convict her, this will hopefully inform future decisions but I'm not holding breath

@purplepoppyz 2 ай бұрын

@nUmBskulLL a statement by the scottish police is not a case and therefore doesnt set a precedent. There is no case law established. The UN Special Rapporteur recommends that any law prohibiting 'hate speech' must ensure that 'no one is penalised for true statements' and that 'no one should be subject to prior censorship.' Under the terms of this Scottish 'law', simply speaking in facts could result in a person being investigated by the police and all the trouble that brings to an individual and even a conviction. For the first time, it is possible, under this 'law', simply giving an opinion in your own home could be a crime.

@nophone9311 2 ай бұрын

They wouldn't dare arrest her. The optics would be too bad. Your average person, on the other hand, is free game.

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

Not true. Do some research. Stop believing the media and politicians.

@rogerwood4846 2 ай бұрын

they dont have to arrest,,,the agenda is to get as many NON CRIME HATE CRIMES on record...so the police look as thought they solve crime...even if it isnt CRIME

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

@@WilliamStewart-tk9dj She's got more balls than the Scottish government.

@backintimealwyn5736 2 ай бұрын

@@WilliamStewart-tk9dj she did'nt call them man. take a look by yourslef, BBC doing misinformation again. She used heavy irony precicely calling them "woman" and "delicate flower", and"she" but stating their criminal record. At least we know that there wont be criminal charges for using irony. For now. I hope people use a ton of irony, you just can't fight ideas with censorship, they can't even do it in China.

@bobbailey7024 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile does the investigation into the missing £600,000, the camper van, burner phones and misuse of SNP credit cards etc gets swept under the carpet?

@TheWomble82 2 ай бұрын

To be fair to the press on that one, any journalist discussing that could face imprisonment.

@Sledgehammer3100 2 ай бұрын

Wow the fact that they had to say that seems like a police state...

@ChrisWorth 2 ай бұрын

They commented on it because it was a public figure fear mongering about a new law.

@artiz91 2 ай бұрын

It always was and no different then Russia had become but it starts to appear in even more sinister undertones

@hourbee5535 2 ай бұрын

This is truly Orwellian. Shame on Scotland.

@dcanes5720 2 ай бұрын

Shame on the Scottish is right

@johnr.b.murray3417 2 ай бұрын

Another ZOG bites the dust.

@blabla5938 2 ай бұрын

But she's not being arrested for anything, how is that orwellian. She's still allowed to express her opinion and voice her disagreement, I don't see what people's problem with this is

@johnmckay5621 2 ай бұрын

The real shame is that the law must be used to try & make my fellow Scottish population civilised & polite instead of a bunch of foul mouthed, racist, homophobic, drunk thugs

@nodruj8681 2 ай бұрын

They didnt arrest her because she's a big name, us working class folks on the other hand we don't have money or social movements to defend us@@blabla5938

@CapAnson12345 2 ай бұрын

So Scotland Police have totally missed the point I see. We KNOW they aren't criminal.

@EldenRingBuildsArchive 2 ай бұрын

Only because she’s rich and powerful, something the average citizen doesn’t have, not good enough, this law must be repelled ASAP

@odeode4338 2 ай бұрын

@@titteryenot4524yes and the comment sheds light that you and me would likely have had a visit from an officer because we don‘t have JK‘s profile, so as long as the law exists, you and me are at risk.

@matt.willoughby 2 ай бұрын

And she's attractive. That also factored in, a sad fact but irrefutable.

@iseeyou2810 2 ай бұрын

@@matt.willoughbylol I agree with her stand but attractive? 😅😅😅😂

@vkobevk 2 ай бұрын

@@iseeyou2810 she old, but yes she very beautiful, now remeber she not anymore in her twenty

@morgenmuffel5747 2 ай бұрын

Oh, please. The law is appropriate - no one should be allowed to incite hatred

@martinmoore7279 2 ай бұрын

So if I go to Murrayfield to watch England play Scotland and I get abuse from the Scottish fans can I get them all arrested..?

@Aklith 2 ай бұрын

Only if they're inciting hatred, which they wouldn't be, but you know this.

@martinmoore7279 2 ай бұрын

@@Aklith have you seen Braveheart

@Aklith 2 ай бұрын

@@martinmoore7279 the only people who ever mention braveheart are unionists who try to tar independence supporting scots as emotional and backwards looking nationalists when the complete opposite is true - the union flag waving jingoistic british nationalists who haven't come to terms that their empire is dead.

@kronotic 2 ай бұрын

We need another William Wallace.

@vkobevk 2 ай бұрын

except the foe is scottish, not english

@patton3338 2 ай бұрын

Except William Wallace fought for freedom, not for a government telling you how you can express yourself. So if you're saying the he woulda chopped off her head in the name of freedom, I absolutely agree. You think he's gonna choose the right to speak over the right to do and exist? You have no idea who William Wallace was do you? I get it, he's a famous Scottish person you've heard about, but oh man you couldn't have made a worse choice. Read a book. 🤣

@guyjackson1261 2 ай бұрын

Translation: we will not persecute anyone that high profile for speech laws. Remember a 14 year old girl was fitted with an ankle bracelet and given community service for posting hip hop lyrics. Mark Meechan was prosecuted for a joke video. Hate Speech laws and the malicious communications act are an affront to human rights.

@Robert_90dayfianceUK 2 ай бұрын

Spot on unfortunately 😢

@davidgraham8058 2 ай бұрын

Hear hear!

@Evergreen0021 2 ай бұрын

Yeah Nazis are always just joking.

@Anthony-vc9dt 2 ай бұрын

Great Britain is really getting screwed up with ridiculous laws!

@akask6458 2 ай бұрын

hate speech is not the same as stating facts and biological reality. Calling somebody transphobic because they side with biology is also hate speech.

@pauljansen1137 2 ай бұрын

Freedom of speech over everything else....and yes....that includes people feeling offended with what is being said.....

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

Yes, that is what the Act says.

@ImNoctica 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038literally not tho

@paullegend6798 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 God you are clueless. What is "hate speech". You don't think something as utterly undefinable as that in law could lead to a few problems. You haven't seen any evidence of people disingenuously claiming offence/hate to silence others (quite often on behalf of other people)?

@cerberusdealer3969 2 ай бұрын

@@paullegend6798 Hate speech are vocalised actions specifically targeting protected characteristics. These characteristics are either unchangable, or not up to the standards of others to change. Your allowed to say “I don’t believe trans women are women”, you would be wrong, but it’s within your freedoms to say that openly. However, as soon as you start saying that on an individual basis, that’s when your infringing on the identity and rights of that person. There’s also something called ‘responsibility of influence’, where if you say something indirect to a group of people, you have to make sure that they don’t act on that, because again can lead to rights of oþer being violated because you essentially told them to. It’s not confusing, it’s not hard. All you have to do is not be bigoted and hateful.

@matt.willoughby 2 ай бұрын

No, freedom of speech has limits. Like the old example of screaming CROWD in a theatre on fire. Some speech can be problematic, and so some light regulation is required. Social media companies should be made accountable for everything published on their platform. Like a web hosting service would be liable for hosting terrorism training stuff

@AnimatedCardboard 2 ай бұрын

I'm glad that Police Scotland have set this precedent and hope they apply it to all investigations under this law going forward. Mental, they don't have time to investigate actual ongoing crime but they have a bottomless bucket of resources for this farce.

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

They didn't have to. The law is clear and she did not break it. You also have to be in Scotland. She is having a joke

@natureboy2256 2 ай бұрын

@@edwardalexander9486All she said was Trans women are not real women. Or something along those lines, Which is factually accurate.

@guyjackson1261 2 ай бұрын

That is not how the law works, in criminal cases legal precedents can only be set by how laws are interpreted in actual legal prosecutions. This is just a meaningless statement by the police. They will use these laws against a regular citizen at the drop of a hat, the entire reason they have not gone after JK is she has the profile and financial resources to make a large percentage of the public aware of how the law is being applied and also this being the first prosecution a legal precedent would be set by this case. Much easier to get the legal precedent they want against Joe Bloggs with a public defender. Vague speech laws such as this have been used to prosecute countless people for years in the UK. This is just more of the status quo

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

Can I state facts about the prophet of islam in Scotland?

@natureboy2256 2 ай бұрын

@@davidadiwego4608 That he was a warmonger and his wife was 8 and its the most violent religion in the modern era. Sure why not.

@Dementia.Pugilistica 2 ай бұрын

I am relieved that this wasn't deemed criminal but absolutely horrified that it was even a consideration.

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

It wasn't except by her. You are being lied to.

@Dementia.Pugilistica 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 what?

@blabla5938 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! she's the only person that ever even brought up the idea of her being arrested nobody else was even thinking about her.

@calumhenderson9404 2 ай бұрын

she was never going to, some random geezer probably will though

@Dementia.Pugilistica 2 ай бұрын

@blabla5938 while I understand that many issues get sensationalized without any real threat, I don't believe that is the case in this issue. In my own country of Canada, a man was imprisoned for 6 months for misgendering his child by refusing to call them their preferred pronoun. People have been fired and forced to pay fines and do community service for 150 hours for posting song lyrics that were considered offensive in the UK. There IS recent precedent for this type of insanity. While perspective is great, we must not get complacent.

@MrAlphadog2012 2 ай бұрын

policw dont want to take on a billionaire theres a suprise

@dondappapumpumslappa8051 2 ай бұрын

Her lawyers would of destroyed this new ruling

@youtybebw 2 ай бұрын

If she was a regulator person they would de pressing charges, tipical two ter so called justice

@RockinJohnny 2 ай бұрын

A proud tradition of free speech? Thats the biggest joke I've heard. Free Julian Assange

@NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 ай бұрын

Putlers Piles have flared up again apparently 😊

@aclark903 2 ай бұрын

Just to remind you Marx worked & wrote in the #BritishLibrary because he was banned in most of Europe..

@NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 ай бұрын

rubbing bunions on it will help

@timonsolus 2 ай бұрын

Hand Julian Assange over to the US. They've promised not to execute or even imprison him - if he's given a prison sentence, he can serve it in an Australian prison.

@NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 ай бұрын

@@timonsolus you sound very constipated again perhaps a good gaze upon a bunion

@mybeasty3560 2 ай бұрын

So whats happening with Northumbria police, are they still invistigating JKR for her similar comments in England? Seperate case but in England, nothing said about that lately?

@rogerwood4846 2 ай бұрын

they are still waiting for the verdict in one of west yorks sharia law police stations

@LolaLaRue-sq6jm 2 ай бұрын

BRAVO TO JK! She has the money to fight this anti-woman nonsense for us and I thank her for it. Now we need some other rich person to start fighting back in America too.

@mikailmillion 2 ай бұрын

Hold on….. telling someone they are a man when biologically and factually, they are a man is considered a hate crime?

@boogboog8097 2 ай бұрын

Smokescreen it's actually to silence criticism and any debate on Islam

@usernamename3359 2 ай бұрын

No, all the law means is that you can't threaten someone just because of their sexuality, gender identity, religion,ect. like you can't go up to someone minding their business and act violent towards them, which is already illegal so

@adamw8579 2 ай бұрын

@@boogboog8097and immigrants generally.

@exp-eri-mental 2 ай бұрын

@@boogboog8097 spot on

@dareemmanuel6079 2 ай бұрын

@@usernamename3359why was a new law needed then?

@youtubewatcher703 2 ай бұрын

This is scary what is happening in the UK. Return of blasphemy laws, genuinely scares me.

@JohnSmith-fz1wh 2 ай бұрын

There has been a foreign (communist) takeover of the country.

@dgtheone 2 ай бұрын

Sanity prevails.

@swunt10 2 ай бұрын

Since there is no legal definition of what "hate" even is exactly, they can use that law whenever they please, against anyone.

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

In Scotland law the act says it must be abuse or threats that scare a "reasonable person". That is a common idea in Scots law.

@swunt10 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 That's not a definition, that vague nonsense. Woke people are clearly mentally ill but in todays world they are treated as reasonable and everything scares them, even the mere existence of white people or men or conservatives.

@artiz91 2 ай бұрын

Remember few years ago everyone was pointing finger at Russia? Any excuses now ? it all stopped working altogether, at least there govt is not wedging itself in the family affairs or warping the reality of basics. Yes you cant say bad shit of government but by the end of the day this ,,sold'' idea of saying without it having a consequence has ZERO worth! I see people actually start to understand what's going on and waiting for saviour but it WON'T come Very DARK times lie ahead and it seems this regime that is rapidly forming MAY be far worse than the one that Russia has If words from above do not resonate with you I do not know WHAT will.

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

1. Surely there already are laws against abuse and threats? 2. The 'reasonable person' is reasonable by whose standard? A: By the standard of someone (e.g a judge) who may hold views which the majority of people wouldn't think are reasonable.

@flex19112 2 ай бұрын

Photos of Skeleton pelvises now banned in woke Scotland.

@Aklith 2 ай бұрын

what?

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

Because they show reality of sex-types?

@louiseparker1915 2 ай бұрын

Seriously!!!

@Durka-Durka01 2 ай бұрын

A bloke wearing a dress, is s bloke wearing a dress! 🤷

@rhodwilliams7258 2 ай бұрын

Excellent. I'm glad only 2 days were wasted by the police on this...

@NatashaLawes-xg3uk 2 ай бұрын

How is it Hate???? Calling out nonsense needs to be said

@kylereese4822 2 ай бұрын

I guess you are ok with CANNABISUM.... BRISBANE - The Indonesian who was killed, chopped up and cooked by her Australian chef husband... They found parts of Prasetyo's body strewn across the apartment and some had been cooked up by Volke on a stove. Other parts of her body were found in garbage bins outside the apartment, said the reports.

@ChrisWorth 2 ай бұрын

How is what hate?

@craigshannon6011 2 ай бұрын

You can't have a wrong opinion to deem it a hate crime. An opinion is just an opinion, There's no right or wrong answer for an opinion. My opinion is you can dress a man up in a dress and make up till the cows come home but I will still never see that man as a woman. I can't see what they want me to see, I can't understand why that's now a jailable offense. They can't force us all to now believe there's more than 2 genders and threaten us with jail if we don't, When it's always been 2 genders as a biological fact for centuries. I'll probably be reported to police now for this but f*** it.

@rosskj9187 2 ай бұрын

@kylereese4822 and the relevance of this comment is....

@dareemmanuel6079 2 ай бұрын

@@kylereese4822…. And?

@Sassar 2 ай бұрын

This will be where our police funding goes into.

@kushprince8001 2 ай бұрын

Yeah because she’s made a fuss about something anyone with brain knew wasn’t going to be what she was stoking fear and tribalism about just for clicks.

@patrickhall274 2 ай бұрын

Terrible video title.

@stephfoxwell4620 2 ай бұрын

BBC are so disappointed

@GIBBO4182 2 ай бұрын

Telling the truth *obviously* isn’t a criminal offence! 😂😂

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

Exactly, having an opinion is not hate.

@TheDiana1 2 ай бұрын

@julianshepherd2038 having a homophobic opinion IS hate ya muppet lol!!!.

@_Quint_ 2 ай бұрын

Actually, it is in totalitarian states such as Russia.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 This is not even an opinion though, it's reality. It's like having a law that you can't believe in gravity.

@christineherrmann205 2 ай бұрын

Wow, knew I'd find transphobia here, but still impressed at the amount of smooth-brained people able to type and everything.

@phillawrence5148 2 ай бұрын

Of course it's not criminal. It's ridiculous that it even needs to be clarified.

@ChrisWorth 2 ай бұрын

I agree. Rowling has needlessly tried to install fear in people.

@phillawrence5148 2 ай бұрын

@@ChrisWorth Lol, no, no she hasn't. How is anyone scared by her words? Has she called for violence? No. Stop being so sensationalist. It's pathetic.

@knightsnight5929 2 ай бұрын

@@ChrisWorth Nope, she has merely pointed out the hatred that some people in society, for a variety of reasons, towards REAL women. Trans "people" are NOT women.

@seanole9449 2 ай бұрын

Somebody without her fame will be an easier target for the Scottish police.

@calistafalcontail 2 ай бұрын

I assume alot of woketards want to become part of the police now. I mean, if they can get their fat butts up and their hair decetnly groomed.

@p.m.of4299 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Rowling! You are such an inspiration and hope! Brave woman!

@holdenhodgdon3756 2 ай бұрын

Shocking that a world class author continues to win battles against gender studies majors.

@Cryaboutmyhandle 2 ай бұрын

Men cannot menstruate, it’s a factual statement.

@JohnSmith-fz1wh 2 ай бұрын

Yes, they can, according to Google. 😆😆

@themydnighthour 2 ай бұрын

Does busting a roid count?

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-fz1wh No, they can't. According to every source ever.

@christineherrmann205 2 ай бұрын

Gender, fuzzy brains, is not the same as sex. OTOH, your Lord and Savior JKR probably approves of you

@lukemorgan6166 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ds8rj2vc4vhe's being sarcastic... I hope

@fingers68 2 ай бұрын

Are politicians still confused on what a man and women are?

@TotalyKenyan 2 ай бұрын

Please leave J. K. Rowling alone

@matt.willoughby 2 ай бұрын

If it was one of us muggles, we would be in deep shit. Personally I feel another persons gender is nothing to do with me, they are free to express themselves however they see fit. It's their life and they should be free to live however they want

@lukemorgan6166 2 ай бұрын

Delusion shouldn't be tolerated

@spiralrose 2 ай бұрын

Telling the truth should never be a crime.

@aivars_video 2 ай бұрын

Thank you JK! In what screwed up world are we now that a children fantasy novel author has to defend the reality?

@Rydonattelo 2 ай бұрын

Now ordinary people in Scotland need to get online and in public and say the exact same things JK said in her posts about trans woman being men etc. The police habe made it clear that it isn't a crime to say trans woman aren't real woman and should be treated as men. Thank you JK Rowling. It probably required someone as wealthy , powerful and female to be able to fight this. Scotland is grateful 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

The authorities have made for themselves many ways to enable the law to be applied lightly or heavily depending on the circumstances.

@christineherrmann205 2 ай бұрын

I think assuming all Scotland is as transphobic as yourself is a stretch.

@michaelalexander9486 2 ай бұрын

Shame on you Scots for letting this happen.

@antonhirushan2258 2 ай бұрын

Please help me I want to read this... Who knows how to get the transcript of this news?👆

@lemons2135 2 ай бұрын

Proud tradition of free speech, are you kidding, 😂😂😂. They want to decide if you are a terrorist, based on what they believe.

@sirensynapse5603 2 ай бұрын

Good for her.

@paulbiggs5523 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the Scottish Government have considered the effect this new law may have on tourism. For example would Edinburgh Fringe Festival be treading a thin line on legality? I suspect tourism in Scotland will take a huge knock as people will not choose to go a place where they are unsure of what they can actually say with impunity.

@Gayathri-qt1bn 2 ай бұрын

Wow! She's got balls

@W_Bin 2 ай бұрын

Describing biological gender is not hate speech. TWF.

@christineherrmann205 2 ай бұрын

Gender isn't biological, sex is. They're two different things. That's like saying that just because you were born in Rwanda, you could never be an English citizen. Oh, wait. You're probably one of _those_ people, too.

@W_Bin 2 ай бұрын

@@christineherrmann205 Dictionary. Is a useful thing. So is logic in sequiturs.

@christineherrmann205 2 ай бұрын

@@W_Bin or, more likely, you're bad at metaphor and a transphobe as well.

@mish375 2 ай бұрын

@@christineherrmann205 I think you're mixing up gender expression with gender/sex as the latter are interchangeable terms.

@curiositycloset2359 2 ай бұрын

@@christineherrmann205lol do you not understand they can change the meaning of words on the internet. But people have actual physical dictionaries.

@PecosChico 2 ай бұрын

Sanity, Integrity, and Courage are not extinct yet.

@leonchristin4254 2 ай бұрын

This world is confused, more and more...

@hectorheath9742 2 ай бұрын

The thought police..that was in 1984 wasn't it❤🤔

@forlatagate1 2 ай бұрын

Society gets weirder each day, the twilight zone has become the real

@mrday8005 2 ай бұрын

No not criminal, just the truth 👍

@paulbailey7641 2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t she still have it listed against her name though? So it would be flagged up if she went for a new job? Lucky she doesn’t need one 🤔

@dondappapumpumslappa8051 2 ай бұрын

Shes to rich for the law to affect her

@jamesm3471 2 ай бұрын

JK Rowling’s got balls, figuratively. “Women” who have balls literally, are not actual women.

@_ArsNova 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Objective facts, such as chromosomes and skeletal structure, determine reality. Not what someone "feels". We've already had The Enlightenment.

@jaygray7102 2 ай бұрын

I sure don't care what you feel or think. Your opinion is narrow minded, useless and unasked for. If you're offended, I look forward to being arrested @@_ArsNova

@kushprince8001 2 ай бұрын

@@_ArsNovait’s ironic since you are not speaking objectively by linguistic and scientific definitions.

@_ArsNova 2 ай бұрын

@@kushprince8001 Exactly what about chromosomes or skeletal structure is not "objective"? Both can be, and are quantifiably measured to distinguish male from female. Take your nonsense elsewhere.

@davfree9732 2 ай бұрын

All I know is she demonstrated resistance... But the authorities said she's not on the hook... But only time will tell if she set the rule, or if she's being made the exception thanks to her high profile. It's Joe Average on the street and how they are treated that will decide this. Do not be silent.

@PureNeptune 2 ай бұрын

Sooooo what exactly does this law actually do?

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

That depends on what the politicians, the police, the prosecution and the judge want it to do. They don't want it to make someone like JK Rowling necessarily liable; she's too powerful. They do want it to be able to make people guilty if it suits them (authorities).

@nickthepostpunk5766 2 ай бұрын

By the looks of it allow malicious accusations that will never get to court (as they should not) but that the police have to waste there time on investigating, thus diverting them away from dealing with actual crime.

@ChiakiShirakawa 2 ай бұрын

I think that it is not "stir up hatred'' but "abuse and arise hatred, and then cover up that abuse''?

@Redpilled66 2 ай бұрын

Rich people with way too much time on their hands talking about stuff that has nothing to do with them.

@dareemmanuel6079 2 ай бұрын

That’s how it always starts … what’s your business with two consenting adults blah blah blah. Till society starts to jail and condemn all those with alternative views

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

How is it nothing to do with her? She is literally a woman and has to abide by the laws. These directly affect her.

@cassandraspandemonium667 2 ай бұрын

WHAT? Penis people claiming to be women and their word overriding ours because THEY SAY SO has EVERYTHING to do with EVERY woman. You utter nincompoop.

@calistafalcontail 2 ай бұрын

Nah she does the right thing and stands up for every sane person that they try to silence these days. She is pointing out how unhinged that is and gets more attention for it than any of us and thats good.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 ай бұрын

@@calistafalcontail Agreed. I'd rather see rich celebrities fighting to protect noramlity, than pretty much everything else they do.

@LordRedfern 2 ай бұрын

Well she wasn't wrong....good on JK

@srinivasarajarao9965 2 ай бұрын

some sense at least...

@josephdans7120 2 ай бұрын

Who said they are hate posts?

@themydnighthour 2 ай бұрын

Biology is reality. Get over it.

@usernamename3359 2 ай бұрын

You're biologically a turd

@TheAArmstrong 2 ай бұрын

@@usernamename3359 Calm down gender neutral

@usernamename3359 2 ай бұрын

@@TheAArmstrong kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNCiibl00dfXqIk.htmlsi=Gfq3_AUBkudIsh-Y awesome 🤓👍

@frishter 2 ай бұрын

It shouldn't be a crime to accurately gender someone.

@dandare1001 2 ай бұрын

That was really funny when Rishi Sunak was speaking and said "we have a proud tradition of fee speech..." and then was silenced. 🤣 0:53

@RalphEllis 2 ай бұрын

Face facts - this is a bIasphemy law. Humza does not care about Trans. He wants to stop criticism of lsIam. This is a recreation of the old Covenant of Dhiimmiitude Which subjjugated non-beIievers for a thousand years. Misspellings intentional. Ralph

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

Why has misogyny been left out of the law? Why is misogyny getting it's own separate offense latter on? A: because Humza's people are known for there backwards beliefs about women. We can't have sacred cows being reported can we?

@calistafalcontail 2 ай бұрын

True, he is one of the people who wants Europe to be taken over by arabs. In the antichrist prophecy, christians and others, who wont accept the mark of the beast, will be behaded one day...the only kind of people who are still fans of beheadings these days are radical islamists.

@user-bl6ff8vb8b 2 ай бұрын

To call a spade a shovel is illegal.

@emilymorley3655 2 ай бұрын

Shouldnt criminalise free sppeech concerning religion!!!!

@Brazen1234 2 ай бұрын

SCREECH IN CANCEL CULTURE

@nUmBskulLL 2 ай бұрын

How the fuck can a post online be criminal??? These people have clearly never been in a call of duty lobby. Sometimes people say things you dont like. The correct response is not to lock them up or fine them. Its not illegal to be a prick

@andrewdewar8159 2 ай бұрын

We don't have freedom of speech in Scotland now.

@JohnSmith-fz1wh 2 ай бұрын

You have the inalienable right to free speech and unlawful legislation does not and cannot ever change that.

@user-ko9tc4pr4l 2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-fz1wh problem is, it's not "unlawful" any more.

@JohnSmith-fz1wh 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ko9tc4pr4l Yes it is.

@alman6581 2 ай бұрын

Rishi said the right thing - for a change

@EyeDeal_666 2 ай бұрын

I thought that! TBH, I thought I must be having a stroke - I'm so glad you've confirmed it did actually happen 😄

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

I spit his red meat back at him. He presides over English laws which are hardly any better.

@maxhobby1701 2 ай бұрын

The law is an ASS in Scotland nothing surer under the SNP

@HM-pn8iu 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Ms. Rowling.

@kevinb9830 2 ай бұрын

Not yet. I suspect less prevalent people might be deemed criminals for saying the same thing.

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Nobodies will get the book thrown at them.

@kevinb9830 2 ай бұрын

@@davidadiwego4608 I'll giver her credit, she's said she would repeat whatever someone else gets arrested for by saying a man is a man and they would have to arrest her too.

@davidadiwego4608 2 ай бұрын

@@kevinb9830 they don't have to arrest her too. Indeed, British police are masters of not holding everyone to the same standard when it suits them. She's a smart woman, she knows that.

@kevinb9830 2 ай бұрын

@@davidadiwego4608 So are you suggesting she has ulterior motives for saying it? I'm not sure what your point is.

@handsomestik 2 ай бұрын

criminal tweets? yeah I'll pass on Europe

@_ArsNova 2 ай бұрын

Objective facts, such as chromosomes and skeletal structure, determine reality. Not what someone "feels". We've already had The Enlightenment.

@gelvisblue 2 ай бұрын

I identify as a toaster. I've just popped up to see if my rights are being considered.

@tomgreene1843 2 ай бұрын

Great b to see someone who an stand against the tide .

@oliverlaxton2423 2 ай бұрын

This whole discussion seems so pointlessly circular, here's my understanding 1. The SNP propose a new law that is intended to make the prosecution of hate speech easier by bringing Scottish law closer in line with English and Welsh law. 2. A news cycle begins to generate outrage about wild hypothesised implementations of said law. 3. The law is passed with stringent protections for private speech and personal opinion, as well as putting in place stringent proof required to demonstrate intent and reasonable interpretation as incitement to credible violence. 4. JK Rowling attempts to break the law taking no account of the protections for her private or personal speech and makes no threats of violence nor any demonstrable incitement to violence. Merely indicated a personal bigotry. 5. Since she had not broken the law there is (obviously) no requirement to prosecute and as such police Scotland (when pressed by journalists) release a statement saying that there is no crime committed and so there will be no prosecution. 6. Rishi Sunak jumps on the band wagon and seems to suggest that he will never reintroduce the existing and already extant protections against hate speech targeting any group that demonstrates credible threats of violence, or credible incitement to violence; on account of those being the very laws that the SNP had initially intended to bring Scottish law closer in line with. So if that is broadly correct and I have not been lead up the garden path, then this is a whole lot of nothing.

@usernamename3359 2 ай бұрын

Its just fear mongering, people thinking their right to a opinion is being taken away when no one cares about their shitty opinions

@dareemmanuel6079 2 ай бұрын

All that long write up just to interpret things from your own perspective and call it facts? We see through you bias please

@stever983 2 ай бұрын

fair play to her, but i say one shit on facebook im deleted, so where is my freedom of speech

@jcstefan7 2 ай бұрын

Lol, Facebook is a private company so you have no freedom of speech there. The freedom of speech prevents the GOVERNMENT from censoring your speech, not Facebook or any other privately held company.

@bobjeffboiii7725 2 ай бұрын

Rishi talking about free speech while hes got assange locked up 😑

@julianshepherd2038 2 ай бұрын

JK didn't use abusive or threatening words that would leave someone in fear, nor did she "stir up hatred" ..so she did not break the law. It is not just about being rude and/or offensive, that is free speech. In the Scottish Parliament, only the Tories voted against the law. They love hate.

@kylereese4822 2 ай бұрын

I guess you are ok with CANNABISUM.... BRISBANE - The Indonesian transgender woman who was killed, chopped up and cooked by her Australian chef husband... They found parts of Prasetyo's body strewn across the apartment and some had been cooked up by Volke on a stove. Other parts of her body were found in garbage bins outside the apartment, said the reports.

@titteryenot4524 2 ай бұрын

It’s absolutely no accident this law is being introduced on a Muslim’s watch. A big part of this is about not criticising Islam. As a lifelong agnostic, I have very little time for _any_ organised religion. However, the thing that should be said is that I feel zero threat from any organised religion, bar one. If I were a public figure and publicly castigated Jesus, or Moses, or Krishna, or Buddha, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, it’s very likely nothing would happen to me. If I publicly slagged off Muhammad, it’s quite likely there’d be a backlash and I’d be watching my back for the rest of my life. _That’s_ the difference. Just ask Salman Rushdie or the Batley teacher who, btw, didn’t even _criticise_ Muhammad; he just showed a damn picture! Imagine living in a society where certain people are so offended by a cartoon, they threaten death to the person who showed it! If certain people are so ‘offended’ by a cartoon, then it’s time to question the belief, not the cartoon. (Similarly, if certain other people are so ‘offended’ by someone suggesting they might not be biologically what they claim they are, it’s time to question the belief, not the questioner). It seems Islam is so trigger-sensitive it can’t take honest criticism, when it’s just a bunch of manmade ideas like all the rest. Never let _anyone_ tell you it’s ‘racist’ or a ‘hate-crime’ to criticise Islam; it’s just some manmade ideas. These ideas are held by people of multifarious races. No one is criticizing these peoples’ _race,_ or _age,_ or _disability,_ or _sexual orientation._ That would be stupid. No one _chooses_ these categories. However, it’s not necessarily stupid to criticise Islam. Why? People choose that. Equally (as JK Rowling rightly points out), it’s not necessarily stupid to suggest that a person claiming to be a ‘woman’ is actually a biological man and vice-versa. Why? Because they are.

@dcanes5720 2 ай бұрын

Sheath your racism will you ….. this was about jk Rowling … get a grip

@EmilyBltz 2 ай бұрын

Evangelical "Christians" in the US are trying to push their beliefs on the rest of the country. Like Islam they believe they will be rewarded if they can convert this country and take compete control over family, media, business, art &entertainment, religion, education and government. It’s called the 7 mountain mandate - basically a cult.

@titteryenot4524 2 ай бұрын

@@EmilyBltzI live in the UK, not the US. However, I _did_ live in the US for a year back in 1995/6. Here’s what I observed on this score: if I publicly criticised Jesus, I didn’t fear for my life. Here in the UK (and elsewhere), if you’re a public figure and suggest Islam isn’t all that and directly criticise Muhammad, then your life could very well be in danger. _That’s_ the difference. Significant elements of Islam in 2024 - hell, this stuff goes back to at least 1989 and ‘The Satanic Verses’ - are as intolerant of those who question it as general Christianity was before the Reformation/Enlightenment.

@titteryenot4524 2 ай бұрын

@@WilliamStewart-tk9djYeah, the point was made in the OP, but he/she let his/her prejudice get the better of him/her. 👍

@user-bt5qt9pp4x 2 ай бұрын

Naturally insulting any persons religion, culture or persons choices is going to cause people to become defensive and attack you back, that is just human nature. Plenty of people of different religions often debate and critique each other's religions, including Islam with intelligent and thought out talking points and it goes without a hitch. If you are rude and disrespectful about peoples cultures, traditions and beliefs then people will take you as a bigot and ignore you at best or punch you in your mouth at worst. There is no doubt this law could be used by some as a weapon but as long as there is some common sense used and you are not being a outright trouble maker or poop stirrer then you will be fine.

@UkTruckerStu 2 ай бұрын

Everybody should hammer this law to police of Scotland till its repealed for the shear inability to handle to other crimes due to the load. Its not about speech anyway, we all know that.