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3 Things That Are Ruining Jeet Kune Do!

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Greenville Academy of Martial Arts

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@h2z291
@h2z291 4 жыл бұрын
I agree your concern .I trained under Sifu Ted Wong for 10 years . Every jkd men forget 3 key elements . SIMPLE DIRECT NON-CLASSICAL jkdman have to refine his tools ( punch kick footwork ) Especially footwork !
@warriorstkdify
@warriorstkdify 4 жыл бұрын
As a JKD Concepts guy I say good video and you have articulated very well things that I have thought about over the years. Your content has helped me streamline my JKD & Wing Chun. Thanks Sifu and stay safe!
@duchi882
@duchi882 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I don't like about this video is that it doesn't have enough views
@AdAce21
@AdAce21 3 жыл бұрын
truth
@keithmyers8268
@keithmyers8268 3 жыл бұрын
I recently saw an interview with Tim Tackett that he did a few years back where he essentially said the same thing. He emphasized that both the concepts and the original group were neither one "right." He talked about JKD being well-defined, but open-ended enough that you can adapt things that work better for you as an individual. He used the example of BJJ and noted that if Bruce was still around he thought he would have embraced BJJ and "JKD-ized" it! But that is an answer for a specific range that Bruce hadn't yet fully developed before his passing. That is very different from adding in all kinds of other punching/kicking/trapping methods when you already have a well-defined and efficient version in original JKD!
@beccawilkes9633
@beccawilkes9633 4 жыл бұрын
8:50 actually Anderson Silva says himself he tries to fight like Bruce Lee and he fights power side forward (a righty) and often counters and intercepts
@victorwalsh580
@victorwalsh580 3 жыл бұрын
Jkd trains both sides, all angles ,and all parts of the mind and spirit
@chriscamarena6343
@chriscamarena6343 4 жыл бұрын
You know there's nothing wrong with ruffling up a some feathers because that's what Bruce lee did when came up with JKD he ruffled the feathers of other martial art disciplines.
@AlimpulosKali
@AlimpulosKali 4 жыл бұрын
You speak true!
@AlimpulosKali
@AlimpulosKali 2 жыл бұрын
@Nic777 ---I don't believe there is such a thing as "JKD principles of combat!?" I think putting it as just "principles of unarmed combatives" would suffice! After all, "a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick!" Remember, Bruce said, "if one thinks that JKD is different from this and that, then let the name Jeet Kune Do be wiped out! For that is what it is, just a name."
@twotetah
@twotetah 3 жыл бұрын
"The height of cultivation leads to simplicity"
@anthonyeusebius5834
@anthonyeusebius5834 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. This is the exact track I have followed. Just the lead hand and foot dexterity emphasis alone..enabled me to spar with and defeat 1st 2nd 3rd n 4th degree black belts. Kickboxers and barroom brawlers. As to the why: There is the story I teach my students; a girl asked her mom why she cut the legs ofc the turkey before putting it in the oven she said "because that's how my mom did it. So she asked grandma why she cut the legs off the turkey. And grandma said because that's how my mom always did it. So she asked Great grandma why she cut the legs off her turkey. Great grandma said; Oh my dear I haven't done that since your grandma was little! Back then our oven was very small I had to cut the legs off to shut the door!
@iari.melchor
@iari.melchor 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Sifu Jason. Several years ago, I studied JKD for a few months at a sanctioned Jun Fan JKD studio (that will remain nameless) before discontinuing. I left feeling disappointed, and scratching my head wondering just what JKD as a martial system was supposed to be. Every lesson was different and I didn’t know if I was going to be showing up for a Muay Thai class, a Wing Chun class, or a BJJ class; it was confusing, to say the least. And, speaking honestly, I signed up because I wanted to learn authentic JKD (and it’s foundation art of Wing Chun), not Muay Thai, BJJ, or even Silat. The impression I took away from my experience is that JKD is nothing more than MMA with multiple arts “cobbled” together with no cohesion, and you learn by cross-training those other martial arts. Listening to you say that the core of JKD is a boxing/fencing art coming out of Wing Chun (paraphrased) is refreshing, and has again piqued my interest in it. 🙏🏽
@JKDandWingChun
@JKDandWingChun 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. So glad to help!
@sasoriko
@sasoriko 4 жыл бұрын
Great video let’s see if I got it. There is *Confusion* about what JKD is. Thinking that the *Concept* of JKD is the kitchen sink (studying all arts). Therefore adding *Complexity* by incorporating more syles and techniques instead of practicing daily decrease. And if not confused by the concepts and doing all the styles then just *Copying* Bruce Lee and doing Jun Fan Gung Fu. Just my thoughts as I was confused for a long time. I feel like I was confusing the method that Bruce used, _freeing himself from the classical mess and imposed limitations,_ and the art itself. I then pursued a bunch of arts rationalizing myself *into* the classical mess I was supposedly freeing myself from. Only after I encountered the problems that Bruce had in the classical mess (that I created) was I able to see that the answers were already there. I think others may have similar trouble. JKD in my humble opinion *is* a conceptual art. Simplicity, efficiency, timing, and Jeet (intercept). Centerline and Longest weapon to nearest target are also crucial, I have a few that I use personally _adding what is uniquely my own,_ but I try to let people know that this is due to my own attributes as I am not Bruce Lee. This is something that I am currently writing about. Thanks for clarifying. Mind if I use this as a reference? Also it's funny that you mention Tai Chi and American Wrestling as I do both of those arts. Didn't Bruce' father do Tai Chi?
@JKDandWingChun
@JKDandWingChun 4 жыл бұрын
sasoriko nailed it! And feel free to use whatever we put on here. Also, glad to help you on your journey. Yours is exactly the type of experience we were speaking to. Thanks a bunch for the input.
@dwightwoods5689
@dwightwoods5689 4 жыл бұрын
@@JKDandWingChun , so Sasoriko "nailed it" in saying "JKD in my humble opinion is a conceptual art"... interesting I say!
@JKDandWingChun
@JKDandWingChun 4 жыл бұрын
Dwight Woods ha. Yeah. When you properly define the so-called concepts, and there’s no contradiction in the application of them, that’s what I think we should strive for. The error of JKD Concepts as I understand it is that they rightly conclude that it’s a conceptual - that is, more accurately to say, a theoretical method. But they err by embracing relativism and thereby break the theory-practice integrative chain. On the other hand, the Original approach is to basically deify Bruce and copy him without considering sound theory. This makes the Original method a “classical mess” so to say. I believe that the answer is the proper integration of logical theory (interception and non-contradictory mix of offensive-defense) with application. Love your input, Dwight and I’m honored to have you on here. Hope my reply clarified our position.
@mikeruddell6091
@mikeruddell6091 3 жыл бұрын
Having trained a couple of martial arts systems that made you learn a lot of techniques that make one shake their head, and say Why......???? The simplicity of JKD is it's greatest asset. Thanks for the 'brave" diagnosis.
@keithnmdowling
@keithnmdowling 4 жыл бұрын
Cohesive and insightful argument in what might be still the salient detail of the underpinning philosophical intent and the pragmatic reality of the work rate to develop skill and personality on the person practising it. Great talk
@rhodrimorice7746
@rhodrimorice7746 4 жыл бұрын
Jeet kune do is not a martial art, it is a philosophy of no limit as a limit, it is an approach to martial arts and life. Bruce Lee said that he didn't even want to name it as this puts a limitation on it right away, he described jeet kune do as a boat to get you across the water but then it must be left behind, not carried on your back. A bit like the finger pointing to the moon analogy he uses in enter the dragon. The finger is pointing to absolute truth but you should not be staring at the finger, the finger is just a guide. I am not the best person to put this into words. I think the only way someone can understand what Jeet kune do is, is to read the tao of Jeet Kune Do. But one thing is for sure, Bruce Lee did not want people to copy his movements and make it into a system or Martial art. He didn't belive in crystallising, that is what he thought was wrong with traditional methods, he points out that combat is a living changing reality that no rigid system can handle in a life and death situation, only the artist himself who must not limit himself with set techniques. Or at least that's how I understood it when I read it. 🤔
@michaelblack5030
@michaelblack5030 4 жыл бұрын
Their interview with the other students that say that Bruce told them that Dan didn't get it the top guy was Tami kimora
@thomashenderson7481
@thomashenderson7481 4 жыл бұрын
If you point the finger to the Moon ,how can you see it in daylight 🤔? Thus, the explanation of the kid looking at the finger 😀! Jeet Kune Do is a martial art just as Boxing & Judo. The word " Martial" means War & the word"Art" means Creative Expressions. When considering the words "Martial Arts" do you draw a picture staring at it believing this is the completion of your artistic ability? Are do you draw other pictures exploring your talent for creativity? Many of us believe Martial Arts is punching , kicking & wrestling, yet, there is more definitions to the words! Any soldier ( front private to General) is a martial artist because of the engagement of war inflicting bodily harm on adversaries useing military weapons. Strategies to out maneuver enemy forces are martial arts being applied by thinking. JKD is "rehearsal" education ( as other Hand 2 Hand combat forms) ,but, still effective & efficient base on the belief of the practitioner & NOT the style or theories of others.
@rhodrimorice7746
@rhodrimorice7746 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomashenderson7481 My thoughts are that martial arts, can also represent psychological combat or self defence, from others verbal attacks and mind games. It can also be applied as a self defense against negative emotions of our own psychie that has been absorbed from negative life experiences that hinder us from living a happy life! I believe that the goal of martial arts is peace on multiple levels both for society and the individual.. The art of war is actually the art of peace, the highest level of combat is to master life so that combat is never needed 🙂.
@josephrigley8974
@josephrigley8974 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomashenderson7481 have you never seen the moon in the middle of the day?
@sanders850
@sanders850 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... pulled the pin on a grenade and threw the pin at ‘em
@robvelazquez9195
@robvelazquez9195 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of your analysis and instruction, sifu. I’m taking refuge in practicing your Wing Chun material. Thank you. Stay well.
@thomashenderson7481
@thomashenderson7481 4 жыл бұрын
I believe ( providing how liberated the practitioner is) any martial art can fix into another without no lessons at all from JKD. I recalled when I was a teenager, I read Bruce said he wished he never gave "the way of the intercepting fist" a name, people will confuse Jeet Kune Do as an art. Today JKD practitioners R still rehearsing" the same fighting methods Bruce did back in his time. Bruce had what I call" martial perception" which is a liberated look at how one can apply a martial move or strategy from other fields of martial arts & fit their purpose to end a fight👊 efficiently & quickly.
@minasz
@minasz 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think you are right here. Lee said it very clear but people listen to it very difficult. Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is essentially your own.” The idea of constantly researching and refining your own experience was key to Bruce Lee's way of life. Bruce Lee had a liberary full of other arts and studied them, examine them, try them. Inosanto says Lee was interested and a sponse when it came to other arts and learning different techniques. All to get the job done. Lee took grappling, took wrestling, locking, kicking, boxing and made it his own. And yes he trained everyday multiple hours to get better and better. His wife, his daughter and Dany Inosanto tells us this. Yes Jeet Kune Do is a concept. The concept of being like water. Second its not true that Lee teached his student to train only one side for months. If that so, whats the source of your information. I was watching how you hold pads and it doesnt look you know how to hold them correctly and also the girl looks like a one handed fighter. Im not trying to offend you but that is a very dangerous thing to learn cuz she can easily getting defeated with multiple ways. His daughter still has an agenda of her father where he wrote all this training session down and clearly he was not only training one side. When you watch the fight with Chuck Norris, yes its a movie, but this scene says a lot about Lee. It says that he understood distance, he understood movement, he understood boxing, kicking and this was not only with his right side. No its not about adding styles cuz that is not what Lee did or Jeet Kune Do is all about. Its about techniques from different styles that can make you a better fighter. Last, Lee started with Wing Chun, but he also knew that Wing Chun is limited and most trapping techniques just dont work or is more accidentally. According to Inosanto Lee started his JKD with Wingchun, boxing and Wrestling. But at the end it was maybe one pak sao but more of the other arts added with techniques from savate, jiu jutsu and even muay thai. Thats why most MMA fighters understand Lee filosophy and say Lee was ahead of his time. If you really want to understand how Jeet Kune Do came to excistent. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9xzo6app7e6oJ8.html
@melodicdestruction
@melodicdestruction 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think of Jun Fan Gung Fu as the name of the art and Jeet Kune Do as the philosophy you learn from it and eventually take into use when you figure out your own individuality in fighting.
@robertvondarth1730
@robertvondarth1730 4 жыл бұрын
Jun fan gung fu is what Bruce Lee himself was doing with the concepts.
@RedSplinter36
@RedSplinter36 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@MrSilus2000
@MrSilus2000 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like nobody is taking the time to read Bruce Lee’s article in Black Belt magazine. He laid it all out, but people still go with their own interpretations.
@Quach7
@Quach7 2 жыл бұрын
I read it. It's 90% bullshit. He tries to talk like a philosopher, but he is not.
@MrSilus2000
@MrSilus2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quach7 Using percentages to evaluate philosophical work is for stupid people.
@da49groupie
@da49groupie 4 жыл бұрын
I watched some of you're videos at first I didn't know what to expect but after watching I've liked the fact you don't just stick to traditional wing chung you modernize it in order to fight the times and styles yu could face keep going man
@Alckemy
@Alckemy 3 жыл бұрын
Step one, don’t read the Tao of Jkd and think you know Jkd. Step two, if you are training to pose like Bruce did in his movies, it’s probably not Jkd. Step 3. Jkd can be applied to any art, but not the other way around. Take a kick you learned, a punch, look at how you were taught, and find ways to make it more efficient, simple, etc. that’s applying a “Jkd philosophy” or concept to other arts. The system of it is like umbrella skills, basic human movements that are supposed to be in conjunction with the way our bodies are designed. Why do we start by hitting with a vertical fist? Engages lats, biggest muscle in our upper body, promotes hip rotation, hip rotation builds momentum to make the next movements stronger. Cool, once we understand the structure of shaping a hit at its simplest and most efficient form, then we can make it our own. A fist can turn sideways, become a finger jab, an elbow. At the end of the day it’s still a “hit” Side note, who did you train under?
@ehsure3394
@ehsure3394 3 жыл бұрын
Be water having a continuity movement running water never grows stale!!!
@claud1961
@claud1961 3 жыл бұрын
I am not really up on the history but I always got the impression that JKD was Lee's personal method that was changing all the time because he just couldn't stop refining it. My understanding is that at the time of his death he had abandoned, or marginalized, a great deal of the methods he had been using just a few years earlier. If he had lived, it would be very different than we know it today. Isn't the problem that some people trained at a particular time, and got stuck at that time because Lee was no longer there to guide them? After the basic skills, you were supposed to find your own way, based on your genetics, mainly. But I agree that to follow the principals he taught you would work constantly on the basics and not get caught up in the desire to emulate others with more skill or style.
@ramslucas5140
@ramslucas5140 3 жыл бұрын
Jeet Kun Do was never meant to be taught because you can't teach it...Bruce Lee knew this...he couldn't really teach it also and he knew this that's why in his own words " Jeet Kun Do is like boat to get you across the river and when you cross the river you leave the boat at the river" Jeet Kun Do was never a physical thing it's all mental....its a way of thinking nothing else...and if someone is teaching JKD there is a problem....because the whole philosophy is self discovery and that can never be taught...it could on be explored...and practiced..there is no master of JKD not even Bruce...Lee was only the father of JKD...
@andrebaxter4023
@andrebaxter4023 3 жыл бұрын
From my perspective, JKD is essentially MMA. The main difference is that Bruce didn't intend it to be a sport. You what is useful for you, and throw away what's not needed. Simply, simplify. You can train in whatever styles you want, and come up with your own way from that experience(just like MMA fighters do in the sport). I'd say add a ground art like BJJ, Tai Chi, Judo or wrestling to complement your striking.
@jplatter6629
@jplatter6629 3 жыл бұрын
I think the hardest party of JKD is exclusion- it’s hard to throw out techniques or principles when you see the value in them. Every attack has the “perfect” counter, and it’s somewhat human nature to expand our vocabulary- we want to add more to what we know. That being said, I tend to agree- being really really good at a handful of moves is far better than dabbling in everything. Even Bruce said he fears not the man that has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.
@Quach7
@Quach7 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee said a lot of shit. He also said to be versatile.
@Quach7
@Quach7 2 жыл бұрын
In normal language, we call that a one trick pony or Johnny one note.
@PINOYBAKBAKAN
@PINOYBAKBAKAN 3 жыл бұрын
What you're teaching is what will reflect your students .
@davidrisselada6199
@davidrisselada6199 3 жыл бұрын
I've trained in both the concepts school of thought and traditional. One school I trained at had an alter of Bruce Lee set up. After 25 years of JKD/FMA I have come to the conclusion that my current BJJ instructor is my best JKD instructor. If you think about that and train BJJ at all you will understand.
@pascal0868
@pascal0868 3 жыл бұрын
Some thoughts Sifu Jason: there’s this tension revolving around the idea of evolution. Bruce was constantly evolving. The key seems to be his pursuit of principles. At the point of his death was he done? I don’t think so. I understand we as humans have limited attributes as in arms and legs. I agree trying to pursue multiple systems is not efficient. Bruce didn’t try to master boxing, fencing or savate each being a lifelong endeavour. He tried to distill the principles. Most people don’t have the attributes nor the resources to pursue such a pursuit. So we have people cobbling together bits and pieces without doing justice to any particular system. I do think there are other principles to be explored. If Bruce were still around he would be obviously be quite old as I am and so he as I am be interested in other aspects of efficiency beyond just speed and power building on his ever developing sensitivity, timing and conservation of energy whilst making his opponent make exhausting mistakes. He would also explore multiple attackers and clinch scenarios. And being older he perhaps would revisit the internal martial arts and may be ending up saving them from the retirement home. Sorry grandma.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 3 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy
@mangoMango-ck3et
@mangoMango-ck3et 4 жыл бұрын
You have hit it on the nail,,been confused for years.two different paths for myself, One,I agree partly with Matt Thornton he's a great modern Martial Arts Thinker, , Two, I agree on all of Tommy Carruthers JKD. his is simple, straight forward, Tommy Carruthers is JKD.same with Greenville Academy keeping JKD alive. .for future generations.hopefully.
@jamesbrick250
@jamesbrick250 4 жыл бұрын
I think the one reason Jeet Kune Do is in a such a bad name in some sense, is probably the marketing and embarassing exposure. Let's just say, Jeet Kune Do is the martial art created by Bruce Lee which he is considered the most popular martial artist of all time and almost a lot of JKD schools are basically doing or training exactly what he was doing. The evolution of JKD is basically stunted to a point where most JKD practitioners are basically moves or trains like him. As for the embarassing exposure, is when passionate practioners of JKD participate in MMA competitions and loses embarassingly as the general public seeing JKD practitioners as the Bruce Lee "fanboys" in the martial art community. Sifu Jason, you're probably my go-to JKD channel to watch, or even possibly of my go-to martial arts youtube channel. It's funny that you're probably the only few JKD teachers that doesn't look Bruce Lee-esque but open-minded and make JKD what it is meant to be, The Way of Intercepting Fist. Shout out from Malaysia. It is a shame there is no JKD school in Malaysia. Being trained by you would be the best thing in my martial arts learning curve. To finish this comment, be like water not the cup. 👊
@JKDandWingChun
@JKDandWingChun 4 жыл бұрын
bron liew 🙏. Wow. I’m humbled to read that and thank you for it. And sorry we can’t be in Malaysia and here too...hopefully the ideas and truth spreads and makes instructors/coaches that way! Anyway, thanks again for the input.
@jamesbrick250
@jamesbrick250 4 жыл бұрын
@@JKDandWingChun Thank you, Sifu Jason for creating good videos of Wing Chun and JKD. Actually, I can learn JKD while I can able to learn Wing Chun as in Southeast Asia Wing Chun is way more popular than JKD as we all know the Ip Man movie boom. It will always be a possibility for me to train with you at the US in future. 😄
@jamesbrick250
@jamesbrick250 4 жыл бұрын
@@JKDandWingChun In fact, whenever I looked at a Jeet Kune Do youtube channels, I kind expect these elements that the Sifus are always showing to viewers which is the ones that give JKD a bad name. 1) Excessive amounts of crazy/aesthetic/cool looking trapping moves 2) One inch punch 3) Obviously the side kick 4) And specific/unique exercise that is based on what Bruce did in the photos 5) The secret/special technique in JKD to improve fighting The thing is, you didn't show any or maybe less. That is why you deserve more subscribers. In fact, you're maybe the most subscribed JKD youtube channel (if someone can verify this). Yeah, I think any JKD channels that were being bashed by Dominick Izzo are ended up being unnoticed by the people.
@jamesbrick250
@jamesbrick250 4 жыл бұрын
@Zero Yup, you're right.
@SurmaSampo
@SurmaSampo 3 жыл бұрын
I think part of the problem is that Bruce Lee created a philosophy about the practice of martial arts then applied that to the martial arts techniques he had ready access too. People then packaged this together into a martial arts "system" that was basically "be like Bruce Lee and do what he did". To my knowledge none of his most successful students fought like Bruce at all since they had different strengths and weaknesses.
@kuyaricky
@kuyaricky 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't logical. You can't define a subject and argue against it. That's a fallacy. The mess is due to division, politics, and economics. Most martial arts camps don't do this the way JKD continues to do. Thanks for bring up the subject and providing a good example of why we aren't one community.
@tonygallagher6989
@tonygallagher6989 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the constant bickering between the different branches of JKD is ruining JKD. In the final passage of the Tao, Bruce said that, if people argue over what JKD is and what it isn't, he would rather the name disappeared.
@NSaco
@NSaco 3 жыл бұрын
In JKDC, cross-training in multiple arts aids in the totality and development of the individual's self-expression. Martial arts gives us solutions to different threats and situations. But no one martial art has all the answers. As we grow, we look for more efficient responses and methods as it enables us to better problem-solving. The "problem" can be someone trying to choke you out, punch your face in, or maybe attack you with a weapon. Early days of no-holds-barred fighting, many fighters quickly realized their inabilities and effectiveness in different aspects of the fight. People naturally sought out better methods to make them more "complete". With this said, it is a process and and as you mentioned, many get caught up in the complexity and become confused by it and most never get passed that phase. Ultimately it's to absorb it enough where it becomes the way you move.
@iammichael1094
@iammichael1094 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but at the end of the day your suppose to refine and throw most of it all out to a few good moves.
@englishhammer3854
@englishhammer3854 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with your honest opinion it shows the obvious move away from what JKD was "is" non traditional for an individual & seeking progression through using no set routine , a continuous learning & adaptation to ones own physical capabilities
@itsallaroundyou7085
@itsallaroundyou7085 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I believe the name says it all. Intercepting fist. That's it. Bruce was obsessed with speed and landing first. Not striking first but landing first. The reason he studied the arts he did is because I think he believed they had the cleanest fastest attacks for his personal build and style of moving. As soon as he created it he wanted to throw it out because I believe he realized maybe these movements don't work for everyone. Pacquiao for instance is left handed and fights that way and has a hell of a lot of speed and power in both hands so there is no reason to retrain him to fight righty and say this is the correct way. I think the way of the intercepting fist is just that and any system of fighting can be that its a philosophy not a style. A philosophy that the purest form of fighting is to be so sharp in mind, so fast and relaxed in body that you can see an attack coming and intercept it. Whether you are doing that with karate, boxing, wing chun, or a completely free form style of fighting that you created on the spot, doesn't matter. Whatever way of moving in combat that feels the cleanest to you as an individual in that moment is what works. It is the fighter not the style that wins the fight, every time. Just my two scents. Thanks for the video sifu. Amituofo!
@beccawilkes9633
@beccawilkes9633 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of JKD out there completely overlook ground fighting/how to fight on your back, how to wrestle. I know going to the ground is a last resort, but often it's unavoidable
@johnlee4249
@johnlee4249 3 жыл бұрын
What you state is true, a lot of people from various fighting arts do overlook where fights go to the ground. And as you stated going to the ground for most is usually a last resort. FYI for those who may not know who Sifu Larry Hartsell was, which was one of the original students of Si Gung Bruce Lee, it was Sifu Larry Hartsell who incorporated and promoted wrestling with JKD concepts from the very beginning. Here are 2 links for anyone who wishes to know more about the late Sifu Larry Hartsell (15 August 1942 - 20 August 2007). lhjkd.com/about-larry.html "or" www.jkd.gr/larryhartsell.html
@davidf9630
@davidf9630 3 жыл бұрын
Living in Chicago as a young teen in the early 80’sJKD taught me that the long way home kept me safe. And when that didn’t work, I had to fight. Sometimes on the ground, I had to bite. I didn’t learn JKD to look good, I learned to survive. It kept me alive...
@andrebaxter4023
@andrebaxter4023 3 жыл бұрын
Becca, 100%.
@doubleb222able
@doubleb222able 3 жыл бұрын
3 things that a ruining JKD. 1. Not allowing it to evolve 2. No full contact sparring 3. No leadership within the community
@ZamWeazle
@ZamWeazle 3 жыл бұрын
Don't some JKD schools have full comtact sparring?
@talesfromthetoiletseat8295
@talesfromthetoiletseat8295 3 жыл бұрын
Werid: I always imagined a good JKD school would allow full contact. Seems like not doing it would’ve getting away from something Bruce was looking for.
@ZamWeazle
@ZamWeazle 3 жыл бұрын
@@talesfromthetoiletseat8295 Yes i concur also 🤔
@doubleb222able
@doubleb222able 3 жыл бұрын
@@talesfromthetoiletseat8295 vast majority of schools practice drills and do a lot of trapping. A few will do sparing drills. But most with few a exceptions, say that sparring will bad habits as a fight must be finished quickly and when you spar you learn to pace yourself to do rounds.
@andrebaxter4023
@andrebaxter4023 3 жыл бұрын
@@doubleb222able , interesting. While I see what they're getting at, they're ignoring what Bruce lee said himself. You can't learn how to fight without sparring experience. It's like trying to learn how to swim on dry land. Agreed that sparring is a staple.
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Issue with JKD is that Bruce lee died so young so the art never really got a chance to mature with its founder, I currently train JKD at one academy and also at another academy that teaches Urban Krav maga and BJJ, UKM is a mix of krav maga and MMA thing is there are a lot of similarities with JKD. I find that one academy's teachings help me cover the flaws in the other which is surely the point of JKD philosophy?
@iammichael1094
@iammichael1094 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you look into Tommy's IFO for vision.
@jameshawkins4514
@jameshawkins4514 3 жыл бұрын
But don’t you know, all fights go to the ground? Ha ha. Here’s somethings the BJJ guys never want to hear. What do you do after the opponent (me) pokes your eye out? What do you do when the opponent (me) clamps on like a pit bull? Oh, the Gracies at the beginning would teach pinching an opponents legs arms etc to get them to release get agitated etc. Try that nowadays and nobody will spar with you. Great video. And, yes I’m left handed. Too!
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 3 жыл бұрын
If you try to bite or poke a BJJ fighter in a dominant position he will bite you and poke you back. If you make him angry he can break your limps or suffocate you (if not worse). NEVER make someone angry when your are in a inferior position, fight to get a superior position first.
@danhiser4891
@danhiser4891 3 жыл бұрын
Should be simple,few,and direct
@thomasthorne4010
@thomasthorne4010 4 жыл бұрын
To me, the core of JKD: " To reach me you must move to me " That's Philosophy yes, but ..........we gotta remember how he came to this realization. Interception is the heart and soul and I feel it's not even about ' counter attack ' ........ It's Attack BEFORE you're attack. A fight FIRST STARTS verbally. Unless a DICK just punch you in the face out the blue, contact leads to verbal altercation. An altercation is a FIGHT, be it verbal or physical Bruce Lee had it right ...... for the wrong reason. During that fight, he was ( reported ) CHASING after his opponent. Bruce was going after him. That's not JKD " To reach me, you must move TO ME " If Bruce would have been in the fight with a JKD mindset .......the fight probably would not have happened. Really. The guy ( reported ) didn't want to fight Bruce but Bruce kept up the pressure. He got tired and wondered how he could end a fight quicker Easy Don't fight ...... LOL !!!!! JKD , to me, is self defense. Bar none and even Shannon Lee says this. Bruce had the correct mentality but for the wrong reason and THAT is why JKD is misconstrued at times. Even in this video, and I've said it before. While we gotta train for the moment and spar to understand the principles of fighting. Footwork being the most important. JKD is not about even fighting. Self defense is not about fighting. Bruce was a Master tactician and a great fighter, but when he says: " The art of fighting, without fighting " He was saying to use your mind. Use Logic to get out of a situation before it even goes there and even if if does, use the most SIMPLE method to end it........like luring your opponent on a boat out in the ocean ...... LOL !!!!! JKD get confused because we are still confused as to it's basic principle: Interception In more layman terms. Stop the fight before it begins and IF it goes down, end it quickly and move on. That's JKD
@thomasthorne4010
@thomasthorne4010 4 жыл бұрын
@Ryder E And why do you say this ?
@CBHDK59
@CBHDK59 3 жыл бұрын
A MAN IN A FRONTAL POSITION AND IN MID RANGE SHOUTING AT YOU AND YOU GIVE HIM A HINT YOU WANT TO KICK HIM IN THE NUTS, HE PROBABLY BACKS OFF FROM FIGHTING YOU, THAT CAN BE SAID THE ART OF FIGHTING WITHOUT FIGHTING, AND THAT IS STILL A FIGHTING STRATEGY
@thomashenderson7481
@thomashenderson7481 4 жыл бұрын
Well if they call you names Jason, prove your theory by challenging them to a friendly contest. U see flaws in JKD just Ng Mui did 300 years ago in traditional kung fu which inspired her to find an art that eventually became known as Wing Chun. Bruce Lee got into heated🔥 arguments about the "martial arts mess that plagues "us because of set styles & traditions. There's a mixed martial artist in China who was vilify for 17 consecutive victories . When one presents an obstacle the idea is not to trash the effectiveness of something different , but to learn how to grow from those obstacles so you can be better.
@Phoenix-tv4gb
@Phoenix-tv4gb 3 жыл бұрын
look at the movie no retreat no surrender ... notice that acting Bruce Lee taught him without being a copycat 💖🕊️☺️
@eatenbythedistance4178
@eatenbythedistance4178 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people got some of the ideas right being simple, direct and expressing yourself authentically but they don’t get that JKD and it’s flow state are formless principles that continue to evolve not stagnant. Some of the lineage practitioners are starting to resemble old karate master by gatekeeping and never getting into the area to prove the validity and refine to be competitive. After a while it makes them predictable and extremely linear while other combat art evolve we remain stagnated by tradition and lineage feuds. I also think a lot of people don’t accurately grasp the philosophy of JKD, it is partly inspired by Buddhism and that void doesn’t mean expulsion of all existence but living in the continuous moment not sleep but not being anxious. Let go of the ego, calm your mind, analyze, intercept, explode. Express. It is also a very terrible shame for almost all of the lineage instructors that they do not teach the philosophy to go with the traditional JKD and the concept. JKD. This is almost all instructors. But instead they choose to cling to the recent lineage with such ferocity. Also a lot of these instructors have tons of ego for being in an egoless sport. Just saying maybe we need to examine that more. It is even more shameful that all of these lineage instructors cannot get along and cannot form a Federation dedicated to the continuation of jkd both traditional and conceptual. I think one without the other is only half efficient. Limited in a limitless concept.
@thomashenderson7481
@thomashenderson7481 4 жыл бұрын
What? 😲 A JKD instructor says it takes 10 to 20 years??!! These instructors wants cashed cow students to pay them for lessons 4 an excessively amount of time! In takes a about 3 years to master any martial art including Jeet Kune Do! Absorb what is useful deplete what is not make what is essencely your own! Words of Bruce Lee himself. If Bruce could rename Jeet Kune Do an appropriate replacement would be" Man Can Do"! Because it's humanly possible to add moves from other arts to fix the ideologies of the liberate man.
@patrickhartnett7253
@patrickhartnett7253 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Henderson same with alot of WC schools...
@patrickhartnett7253
@patrickhartnett7253 4 жыл бұрын
I think JKD was on really understood by Bruce himself..and Ip Man didn't like the fact Bruce took WC and added a few other ideas to it and went on to "create" a new style..
@thomashenderson7481
@thomashenderson7481 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhartnett7253 Your right Patrick , Bruce , of course, understands the theories of the hybrid expressions he created. The Follies of some, one studies an art & is the best practitioner of the art, thinks there's no other reasons learn other styles. Yip Man thought Wing Chun is all Bruce need to know & additional knowledge from other martial arts is slap in the face of the original art. Only in recent decades the Wing Chun community has accepted & respected the education of other martial arts & this comes from Bruce Lee NOT Yip Man. PRIDE: the quintessential Follies of man, will always be the downfall of man because lack of change & perceptions. Bruce Lee had no limitations in those regards.
@hotlanta35
@hotlanta35 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you drank the JKD Kool Aid
@jimimonkie1234
@jimimonkie1234 4 жыл бұрын
I think a major concern for me about JKD you forgot to mention is marketing allowance. Bruce’s daughter and wife appear to have all control over all/most rights. My prior instructor had severe apprehension over marketing anything with the symbol of the art I love. Instead of always cashing a check on legacy please consider its future! BTW the instructor had instructor certification from Guru Dan Inosanto. Very disheartening... If community can’t even advertise as a Bruce Lee philosophy/art then this may die soon. BTW I’ve been studying JKD for over 5 years along with many other martial arts (BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kali, HEMA, etc..)
@robertvondarth1730
@robertvondarth1730 4 жыл бұрын
And Andy Kimura
@ehrichweiss
@ehrichweiss 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Shannon and Linda only had rights over "Jun Fan" as the name Jeet Kune Do itself is too diluted for them to claim ownership, trademark or otherwise.
@Quach7
@Quach7 2 жыл бұрын
That would be "copyright"! Ha ha.
@tyrikmoore2903
@tyrikmoore2903 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you made solid points. I don't agree on your opinion of concept instructors but I may have had had good instructor. he trained under Dan. I felt like his way of JKD was good it was something that worked for him cuz as he told me w aren't Bruce. I remember my first day he made start off orthodox stance (putting my strong head in the back) we did the basics but in the way he felt right. JKD and wing Chun one day than other arts like Muay Thai the next. I felt it was beneficial for success depending on what you looking for. My Sifu developed my strength (realized I had boxing potential) and developed my weaknesses like my kicks . The thing that stands we took what was useful and discarded what wasn't effective for us. JKD created MMA and has inspired countless MMA and fighters across the world cuz they got one thing right. They created there own style. I feel we learn the basics create something of our own thats effective.
@shadowki1647
@shadowki1647 3 жыл бұрын
Jeet June Do is only being ruined in certain places by certain people who are unable to free their mind. They don't hear they "listen," and not intently. Then there are the Jedis. These are the folks that excel towards greatness like a fish learns to swim.
@karlcarlysle3578
@karlcarlysle3578 3 жыл бұрын
. 1. Jeet Kune Do is personal 2. Guro Burton Richardson, Blaise Loong, not only train Jun Fan Curriculum but also go into other arts African , Brazilian etc but not until after having a very good grasp of the basics. I agree some people are over thinking and others are original only.. the reason Guro Dan has us training so long is high stated I. Condition and knowledge.
@johnabrams8148
@johnabrams8148 4 жыл бұрын
There is a higher level of JKD that no one ever talks about in public. When the spirit becomes the warrior. When this happens you do not do anything. You are just a spectator. And the spirit warrior cannot be defeated.
@machida58
@machida58 4 жыл бұрын
Is this satire?
@johnabrams8148
@johnabrams8148 4 жыл бұрын
@@machida58 ​ @Pro Male Revolutionary nope. I actually did it. I used to box and in one fight I just let go. I do not know how else to describe it - but someone else took over. And I was amazed when my hand would punch the other guy in the nose, repeatedly, because I did not know the punch was coming or going to be more exact. And over the years I have read about many people doing this. You will find stories of women that were attacked, for example, that say I hit him and knocked him down but I didn`t even know it, in fact at first I thought someone else had hit him (her attacker). Or people saying. The next thing I knew I was just hitting him without even thinking about it - it was like someone else was doing it - like I was an observer. Maybe it is the subconscious and when we are in danger if we do not act then our subconscious does.
@johnabrams8148
@johnabrams8148 4 жыл бұрын
@Wolfgath I think that it is much, much deeper than that. I have been in a zone playing football and was not only unstoppable but `unchallengable`. But this is much more. Look for the You Are Two video. I have had several experiences that suggested that this isreal and then there are the split brain experiments where `one` does something and the `other` makes up a reason why or when one hand lights a cigarette the other outs it out or one hand buttons the shirt and the other unbuttons it. Quickly, one day I was driving a truck with a very expensive item in the back - like Miss Daisy Driving - and on the way home after work in my car I kept driving that way and had to `stop myself` a few times. Who was doing that? On another day I saw a car accident and went to run to help - but my feet did not move. I actually looked down at them. Another time very late at night in the middle of winter and nowhere I was walking home at 2 am down a dark street and a car full of men stopped next to me with their lights off - I put my hand in my jacket as if I had a gun and looked at them and they drove off. The problem is - my hand went into my jacket on its own and I looked at them to say `Did you see that???` The `other you` takes over and acts to save itself when you don`t do it. You are two. And so are we.
@robertjacob9696
@robertjacob9696 2 жыл бұрын
i think bruce mention something like this in enter the dragon as something he picked up in his learning.
@brucebooker2227
@brucebooker2227 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it!
@alwaysoncommandk9
@alwaysoncommandk9 4 жыл бұрын
Great logic, Bro. I don't study your art, I've studied American Kenpo Karate and different Arts, MMA, ect, I'm now presently studying FMA . I've found in my own experience, learn foundational skills, learn what actually works in reality based self defence, and practice those techniques over and over. As Bruce Lee said " I'd rather fight someone who knows a thousand techniques, than some one who has practiced a technique 1000 times. I hope I quoted that accurately, but you can catch my drift. Simple accuracy in a few well thought thru techniques is better than a whole lot of techniques which you have to think thru at the moment of combat of which to choose.
@EvanTateMusic
@EvanTateMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Sifu Jason! I'm glad you made this video. The reasons you listed, were also the reasons that I haven't been a fan of JKD at all. There are too many KZfaq Videos with guys copying Bruce Lee. Just silly. And then there's a guy who claims to have updated the system! How arrogant! Anyway, I'm not a practitioner of JKD ( I train Wing Chun), but I like very much the perspectives and explanations of make on both Wing Chun and JKD. Kudos to you!
@Danny-el7ok
@Danny-el7ok Жыл бұрын
Tommy carruthers best example of jkd in UK and probably usa
@bilbobaggins4403
@bilbobaggins4403 3 жыл бұрын
I care nothing for the simplicity on this side of complexity but I would give my life for the complexity on the other side.
@ksamartialartsbyrasensei576
@ksamartialartsbyrasensei576 Жыл бұрын
Great analogy! This is where Bruce made his mistake of not actually getting the core benefits of a traditional system. All lineage worthy systems, with experienced instructors and dojos teach practical fighting along with traditional science of bunkai!,..after the student has reached a certain level of training physically and mentally,.. showing that they are completely humbled, loyal and worthy of receiving that higher level of info. And Many traditional systems/dojos adapted techniques from various sources to aid in the "what works for you ideology" with mixed martial arts techniques, long before Bruce Lee was even born!. However, although Bruce Lee was exceptionally talented, I believe he would have had a more solid foundation for the JKD system, had he humbled himself just a little bit longer with his original teachers as they would have shared with him more secret information and he would have had more respect and a better understanding of traditional purposes that would have ultimately lead to a better foundation for JKD!
@nordique59
@nordique59 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to dd that losing the side, oblique camera angle would be a good idea as it has become somewhat of a tired and annoying cliche. I prefer eye contact, thank you.
@thomashenderson7481
@thomashenderson7481 4 жыл бұрын
Jeet Kune Do stands for all possibilities of the martial arts, yet, has no boundaries as in the styles you mentioned has limitations to whatever moves their system been studying for centuries! That why JKD stands along publicly speaking!
@victorwalsh580
@victorwalsh580 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you use any martial art. Jkd is complex simple structure based on kenetic and rythmic alterations via interception every system and style with measures divided in partiality, fluidity, adaptability,and nothingness. When it comes to messes you up, mess up jkd and you get messed up. Conceptual and absolutely there's absolutely absolution. There's counters for every style and since jkd is of no style but all the encyclopedia and thesaurus and philosophy of the art is what makes it an honor and complete full cycle the various ways to self express, to prepare and to cease that which is telegraphed or not
@ronin2167
@ronin2167 3 жыл бұрын
They do that in other arts as well. Just look at Aikido. Everyone wants to be Ueshiba and has caused the art to not be worth shit the way the majority of the styles teach it. They ignore that Ueshiba said that striking is key to Aikido, but they don't strike. It's also a grappling form but they ignore that as well.
@loekmanhidayat676
@loekmanhidayat676 4 жыл бұрын
Sifu just keep telling what it is Me myself im off the same principle of keeping stuff simple but works.. Its easier to pas it on the clients for me that did great. And your right adding to much complexity Makes it hard to get a good grip of it Keeping it simple to a view moves but those view moves can work in diferent ways very well.. Intercepting depending on the individual.. And fencing it self is simple yet it gets the swords where you want it to be And for JKD i suppose as long i can get my kick or punch where it needed to be And not get caught myself im good
@subbasui7418
@subbasui7418 4 жыл бұрын
Génial 👍 Conseiller technique THk 🙏.
@j0cr0z
@j0cr0z 3 жыл бұрын
jkd should be taught in a class room with Bruce’s words. jkd was never a system, it’s a way of life. simple way to put it is as you do what helps you. Bruce didn’t teach Steve McQueen the same as James Coburn. People need to do what works for them, and them alone.
@melregalario5887
@melregalario5887 4 жыл бұрын
You remind me of another JKD instructor who was my boxing trainer back in the late 2000s. Imagine my surprise since I was trained in jkd back in the early 90s during the height of the Paul Vunak kali fma infusion. It was fun and I thought I was learning a lot until this dude told me that I needed to learn 4 or 5 moves and learn them well.
@rudyreyes8240
@rudyreyes8240 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Jeet Kune Do died when Bruce Lee died because he was the inventor of the concept and the Art of fighting and it all came from his mind his creation so in reality nobody knew back then with Bruce Lee was thinking or nor could they read his mind so that's why the original Jeet Kune Do from Bruce Lee himself can't be any more in this time
@graphstyle
@graphstyle Жыл бұрын
Have you read Jidda Kristhnamurti? Bruce was heavily influenced by Jiddu, and what J talks about applies to JKD - ultimately JKD is not a style and that is something hard to grasp for many JKD-ppl. One has to ask, what is the ultimate goal of martial arts (that is your mind, body, nervous system, muscles etc)
@patrickgiambrone5840
@patrickgiambrone5840 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100 %. For me there is no concepts nor original , there is only jkd. I am a concepts guy who has studied Filipino and muy tai and so on. For me those are separate arts and I only take what is useful for me. Again. Good video.
@NoName-gp6dk
@NoName-gp6dk 4 жыл бұрын
This really helped me to rethink what I’m doin as I’m trying to teach myself JKD so thanks!
@jameslyons6655
@jameslyons6655 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of JKD as a guideline through your martial arts journey. As I moved through Tang SoonDo, Hapkido, Aiki Jujutsu, BJJ I always kept in mind to try to keep the simplest techniques, the techniques that worked best for my body, the techniques that worked best for the way I liked to fight. I certainly never tried to fight like Bruce, I think that’s a mistake. I just recently started taking an actual JKD class so I’m interested it how that’s going to play out.
@iammichael1094
@iammichael1094 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, IFO?
@AdAce21
@AdAce21 3 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more. Extremely well said.
@macIain
@macIain 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy Carruthers has the right idea when it comes to JKD.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 3 жыл бұрын
He did . It's all striking. The firearm acts as a natural FOOK SAO controlling hand.. if we stay over the hands we need not block .. jkd blocks are strikes
@NEWBODYTS
@NEWBODYTS Жыл бұрын
Great insight. Keep it simple. It's not so simple - is it.
@dudelol
@dudelol Жыл бұрын
great video very well explained
@MartinJutras
@MartinJutras 2 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent arguments. Something rare on the web (especially in MA).
@JKDandWingChun
@JKDandWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input. We do our best to provide logical and respectful information that helps make better self-defenders out there. 🙏
@masterpeace6804
@masterpeace6804 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained about the JKD and Wing Chun principles. Confusion and complexity, copying is to avoid, find your own identity is what I understand.
@scottsummers684
@scottsummers684 3 жыл бұрын
Come to think of it...this whole concept really does make sense if and only if you know how to grasp, understand, and of course be able to absorb the principles and the mechanics behind it...look at or consider Jon Jones and the way he keeps winning matches in the Octagon no matter who his opponents were...heck, for all we know he could be using Jeet Kune Do all along and nobody figured it out that he did...!!!
@aardvarkhendricks6555
@aardvarkhendricks6555 3 жыл бұрын
JKD is killing itself with controversies over what it is, what it isnt, bruce lee said this, another of his students said that, what did the book say and what it actually means, etc etc. It also isnt doing itself any favors about disputes about lineage and the need to make money off the name at the expense of others. In a nutshell, JKD was a philosophical device Bruce made to discover himself and express whatever discoveries he made into physical reality. A by product of this device was JKD which happens to be Bruce Lee's personal fighting system. In this system we see elements of what bruce thought was the best mix of techniques from different styles. From his base of wing chun (I essentially deem useless) in his early years to savate and boxing, among others, in his latter years we get to see what bruce thought and did. For the JKD practitioner ( of which I'm not or at least in the sense that I dont want to learn to be bruce lee, I want to be an excellent (me) ), they get to explore his information through books, interviews and the advice of his students. I assume some people want to move and fight like him so they probably study his jun fan wing chun and move on to whatever techniques are instructed such as savate s kicks, boxing's punches, etc. I would consider this approach the prototype of mixed martial arts; the study, technique selection and application of actions of defense, neutralization and offense in order to gain victory over an opponent. I am personally grateful to JKD because it accelerated my technique repertoire and style analysis ability. In my final analysis I grew to like savate, boxing, bjj, judo, muay thai and wrestling which all happen to be competitive martial arts. Classical systems (classical in the sense that they adhere to asian philosophy, religion and social practises NOT in the sense of age) like wing chun, Hung gar, karate,etc are great for exercise, cultural immersion and some very limited skills for self defense but in the whole are not adequate for either competition or legal civilian self defense. If I were to become a JKD student or teacher, I would definitely eliminate wing chun altogether or teach it as a reference course for historical reasons and not practical.
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 Жыл бұрын
You make some very good points on each end of the spectrum with both The Concepts methodology and the Original JKD methodology-if a technique comes from a place of directness, simplicity , and efficiency it can be included in your personal style. I like things from both methodologies- I guess that would make me a fan of ‘Original Jeet Kune Do Concepts’ :)
@raygsbrelcik5578
@raygsbrelcik5578 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't know what all this Fuss' on the internet con- cerning either Lee, or JKD, is all about---Because it really ISN'T a STYLE, or Martial Art denomonation. Bruce never MEANT it that way...In FACT---He flat-out proclaimed it was/is a form of "Self expression." JKD is a Philosophy of one's own JOUR- NEY. It was never to be considered just another Martial Art. Evidently, in the years following Lee's death, the TRUE aspect of his Art is being FORGOTTEN. Goodness.
@frankwilliams3036
@frankwilliams3036 4 жыл бұрын
You are totally correct. Really, any well trained martial arts should read Bruce Lee’s books on the subject, particularly the Tao of Jeet Kune do and put it into practice in order to understand where Bruce Lee was coming from. I think that one has to know some Wing Chun, boxing, Bruce’s footwork (very important), some things from their base martial art (whatever that might be), grappling, and anything effective for you that you find along the way. Bruce Lee slayed his conception of martial arts out in Tao of Jeet Kune Do. I think that trying to add a lot to it or having a fixed (Bruce Lee way) of doing things outside of the core concepts gets people into trouble.
@Kakarod
@Kakarod 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion JKD is for master class martial arts that want to study other style tailored to them. Some people have crystallize jkd as a style when jkd is no style... only whats useful to you
@robbybee70
@robbybee70 3 жыл бұрын
I think one big problem is people look at it as a method based in techniques and really it's a method of tactics or strategy
@brusli1732
@brusli1732 3 жыл бұрын
I am confident that if Bruce Lee was alive today he would claim to teach MMA, open a gym and name it "Jun Fan's MMA" or "Jeet Kune Do MMA" , just like in the beggining, when he claimed to teach "Jun Fan Gung Fu" rather than simply "Kung- Fu". Basically take the most useful parts of MMA and attach them to his JKD "skeleton". If you think about it, one could say that JKD's philosophy of adding new things that suit you is basically the prototype of MMA.
@josephperkins4080
@josephperkins4080 3 жыл бұрын
🙋🙋🙋Western Style MMA originated in the 1890s when Edward William Barton-Wright created Bartitsu some 70s years before Bruce Lee formed Jeet Kune Do
@surfside16
@surfside16 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't Wing Chun considered "complex" as well?
@gabequezada2066
@gabequezada2066 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video and explanation on such an important topic... Well said...Thank you
@KS-wj7to
@KS-wj7to 3 жыл бұрын
Great argument!
@toryduke6166
@toryduke6166 3 жыл бұрын
Its funny that people say you have to do it just like Bruce. When Bruce was always adapting. In his book he said to give something a name like Jeet Kune do. Limits it. After all Jeet Kune do mean intercepting fist of foot. That is only one concept derived from Wing Chun. He also said longest weapon to nearest target. Fencing foot work makes it so you can attack and retreat very quickly. Take what is useful and discard what is useless. But even that concept has to be used under real pressure of attack. If we fallow the philosophy of Bruce. You martial arts should have some elements of what he did. But that you are going to study other arts and add to what works for you. Not everyone is a 130 pound short china man. I happed to be about the same higheth of Bruce. But I am a 270 pound white guy. So i take his concepts and study other stuff. But use what works for me. And test it under pressure.
@Justino2030
@Justino2030 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts (and you may have had this question before) on Paul Vunak? That’s my first memory (90s) of seeing JKD outside of Bruce Lee.
@trieder9985
@trieder9985 3 жыл бұрын
JKD It’s a Philosophy not a style. Someone who does TKD and Boxing that would be his interpretation of JKD. It’s about your own style.
@user-mv7go7lh5o
@user-mv7go7lh5o Жыл бұрын
"Don't think... Feel!"^^
@mrdeeds72
@mrdeeds72 4 жыл бұрын
I can't find any major flaw with your arguments.
@therealawakener7
@therealawakener7 3 жыл бұрын
Let me try to help you out then, this guy claims to teach JKD but, he's also teaching Wing Chun (a style) which is the "Classical Mess" that Lee thought 'cramps and distorts fluidity.' That my friend is CONFUSION! Essentially he's got one foot on dry land and the other still in the boat.
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 3 ай бұрын
@@therealawakener7 He does WC his own way and exposes many of its fallacies, so I don't agree with you. No one says what he says and he's right. All open minded teachers have two or three or four feet in different arts and that can be a good thing. He's the kind if person that can do that in a soud way, so nothing you say can actually downplay him.
@dhiruparmar8908
@dhiruparmar8908 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. THIS IS MY OPINION. Bruce knew this would happen. So he closed down all his schools and stopped teaching. But his friends didn't listen but just wanted to cash in on the money and make a living out of Bruce Lee's Art and name. Same as Yip Mans wing chun, the first students are all well off and making a living teaching, even though they weren't qualified or learnt the whole system. That's why Wing Chun & Jkd is in a Classical Mess NOW.
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 10 ай бұрын
Dan Inosanto said Bruce could shell shock you will the straight lead saying most people can't. I think this is why he went to his roots. Respect to Inosanto however because he understood Bruce would use anything that work even Tennis he said 😆
@josefraguas2768
@josefraguas2768 3 жыл бұрын
Last line...”dont fuss about it!” B.Lee. Move on guys!!!!
@michaelblack5030
@michaelblack5030 4 жыл бұрын
I love the WNG and bremer stuff with my teacher's chi na
@encara1
@encara1 3 жыл бұрын
Clarity at last ! Thank you !
@dcambel943
@dcambel943 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with jkd is they just practice wing chun. Stop wasting your time. Study muy Thai, bjj and boxing.
@neo-filthyfrank1347
@neo-filthyfrank1347 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, seems if the art was actually applied it might be decent but the mentality right now is pretty much the same as for those in other bullshit martial arts
@WrathMacDraft
@WrathMacDraft 3 жыл бұрын
There are actual Jeet Kune Do instructors out there, as rare as they are, and it's not Wing Chun/Ving Tsun. I can assure you that.
@neo-filthyfrank1347
@neo-filthyfrank1347 3 жыл бұрын
@@WrathMacDraft Still not worth it man, too rare and risk of getting bullshit, if you're really seeking out a good JKD school then you're prioritizing loyalty to a style over becoming a better fighter.
@tigerdefensesystems
@tigerdefensesystems 4 жыл бұрын
Good video... as someone myself have studied Martial Arts for over 20yrs... including started in Concepts and trained under Original... I've done much research and only sought out the best of the best and got my insights and made my own determinations and find myself having come back full circle... Some things I agree and disagree with each instructor... IMO those that are in it long enough understand it all, the politics the history etc... opinions all over the place.... I look at the attributes and the skill sets and aliveness of the person at hand, I can determine alot just from a few seconds of a persons training... and of those people I sought out I dont know 1 person that has or is milking JKD out for 10-15yrs for an instructor status? neither do I believe these people that do 20-30hrs of training suddenly become able to teach? just bogus. Alot of people are just terrible at it.
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