This debate never looses relevance. @JKL please bring this duo on the bench.

truth be told Ole, we are a VERY TRIBAL COUNTRY....

LEDAMA YOU ARE REAL AND NOT SCEPTICAL

Ladema is saying what majority of kenyans wont talk

when he speaks the truth it becomes tribal..

Ledama is a tribalist per excellence. Period. Cheruiyot much more rational and balanced. If that’s what BBI proposes, down with it. One can run for office anywhere regardless of where he’s from. Ledama is picking from where Ntimama left off. The way to counter such characters is to question his rants. Do you have facts? I can’t believe this kind of thinking exist in a person who spent many years in America.

i think ladema is saying something just that his presentation is coming out in a different way plus he is soo tribal. i believe we need to have a land use and control policy where by agricultural land should be left so and settlement regions should be left so... eg, kiambu county just next to kiambu town, fertile land suitable for agriculture has been made settlement region with commercial houses all over, and machakos which is just a few kms away which should be best for settlement.

I agree with Aaron Cheruiyot for the first time since

Cheruiyot you are soo good

Cheruiyot is making political points, Ledama knows very well the ground is different

So Kikuyus and Kalenjins want to protect their land and take the Maa land because of their Innocence...Sen Ledama you are a real deal to Maa Community.

Leo Ledama ameniangusha... Cheruiyot’s articulations was just perfect 👌🏽

I think Ladema is just honest, the likes of Cheriot are just good at speaking but their actions are mere tribal.

Ledama is always right....congrats ole kina and plzz NEVER relent to support your people

Olekina is always a village politician

Ledama says the truth

I have never thought there is this kind of people still exist,,🤔 rotten in mind I swear 🤷ledama please came back to your sense,,,

But if you buy land, why should I be told what to do with the land? IT IS MY LAND... Ledema is stoking some serious fires that he will not be able to handle

One thing I love about Ledama is that,he boldly speak his mind unlike many who are hypothetical.

That why l will forever be grateful for having kalenjins as my neighbours.though we fight sometimes they are the best once the fight ends it end also with gudges that sometimes occurs after war and we return to day in day out friendship like neighbors and like nothing ever happened.Ole kina is just an explanating what people go through in their soo called ancient lands.ask me how it feels to be an outsider in the maa land you have to endure hell almost every day.

Proud of Ledama,pigeni kelele kabisa...maa interest matters also.

The debate is very Hot But for the sake of Patriotism Tribalistic mentality is dangerous in cosmopolitan communities..BBI agenda is about uniting all kenyans..Cheruyot has passionate Truth on the goal of leadership.. Tribes are ok but Tribalistic thinking is limiting..We must respect all Tribes..Land use tenure is varied..& Leaders should show leadership.. Competition is necessary Any Kenyan has a right to own land anywhere and do business lawfully..21st Century we have to think beyond cheap tribal politics..Embrace the New Dawn.. Great discussion though..BBI has nothing to do with the gaps btn rich and poor.. Corruption has and leadership and governance systems..Great and needed discussion..Thanks Jeff for such discussions.

Aaron I like your arguments , indeed the post deserves to you...

The Masai are the most generous people in Kenya. Stop badmouthing the Masai.

Andrew Sunkuli was the best competitor for this Ledama guy. Ledama Ole Kina your thinking is unmatched, too small!!

Bt come to think of it it's true we should focus on food security as a country

...hii bbi tuangushe! Inaleta ukabila na ujinga! 😂😂😂😂🤣 Ole Dama amekosa plot!

This Oledama is very bright on his speech, I like this guy

Ledama Narok is for all of us !

The kind of talk by ledama is what causes tribal clashes.

This Ole Dama ati he's learned and gone abroad and he's still talking about Masaai alone? While in Narok all tribes are represented in Narok? This is Kenya and as a Kenyan can live wherever they want. This is crazy.

I agree with Sen. Ole Kina, he is being Honest

For the land use policies, they should apply everywhere.

Moto kama pasi!!! This is the best show so far

ledama is right its hard to admit but ako na point

Ledema he want vengeance and revenge who is seeing it like me......

I was for bbi but am no longer part of it

VIVA LEDAMA THE MAA KING

Kudos Aaron Cheruiyot!!!!!!!!! You have demonstrated a true mwanainchi who is advocating for unity.

I fully support Hon Ladema ole kina very sincere

This debate.. ohh! My! Fire.

I used to be a big fun of ledama he just disappointed me 🤦‍♀️

Aaron cheruiyot,U r 100% super hero!!

Why are we adjudicating this issue on public TV without a method of fact checking?

Ledama search talks you need a good PR team to consult,Evil will not wipeout evil,you are a nice guy have worked with you there is a way you can arrange your words and push points,Massai's are loosing there land Ukweli but ukabila si solution bro.

Mm napenda odm lkini leo ledama umenda pabaya Sana ukabila umenda mbali hamuezi kua region mzima kua ni Masai pekeake nop kma watu wengine wanaukablia bc na ww wataka kuenda huko coz naunga mkono sehemu za Mt Kenya rift ukabila mwingi bt hio haiezi kfanya ati iwe utapigania Masai pekeake na ww umechaguliwa na kabila nyingi county ambae haina ukabila na region mzima ni coast region bt zilizo Baki wote wanaukablia Kenya Sana tena leader ndio wanaukabila bt our leader pia huwasikiii kuleta ukabila why nyinyi watu wabara musifanye kma coast

But ledama is right...the issue is abt land zoning...they should b obeyed to protect marginalized communities...forget the tribal talk

Kabisa mambo ya Masai iwachiwe masai

I see this BBI thing is more dividing than uniting

Ledama is just foolish what kind of a leader is he...🤔🤔

People don’t understand what Ole Kina’s agenda.Zoning law is important.

What Aaroncheruiyot said is what we all want to hear and to write about but what senator ledamalekina is the reality and is what we all do.

Why is Orengo going to the meeting and am not allowed to the meeting. Aaron Cheruiyot is somehow wise😂😂

'What are you going there tanga tangaing about...' 🔥😂😂😂😂

How can a kenyans in kenya be a vistor

ledama your right i agree with you

we are all kenyans.....ledama is just too tribal.....😒😒😒

Land for roads remains land for roads, buildings are even destroyed for it,...land for real estate remains real estate land ...Nairobi CBD was purely left for business.. What is wrong in letting agricultural land remain agricultural land? ..I support Ledama kabisaa

tribalism

oledama is just but tribal

This guy Aaron what time do you get to serve the guys in kericho if you are always in Nairobi defending conmen

The same Maa people who Ledama is purporting to fight for are telling him to behave. unaibisha the masaai community whom we all respect so much.

Ole ledema.u will burn this country.What do u mean don't subdivide land?Kenyans have the right to live anywhere in this country

I didn't know Ole kina can talk like this I had a lot of respect. Please reflect

JEFF KEEP UP THE STORIES

Senator Cheriyuot don’t even waste your time with this Man,you have more intelligence and more articulated..he is so tribal it hurts.

Where is Ole Kaparo? This is a true tribalist,i voted him in but now i am worried! what changed this guy?.Kindly bwana Cheruiyot enlighten him on issues of modernisation.Who built the NAROK Town where was he?

Ole Kina sounds silly, who in Kenya has not been maginalised? This guy is educated and travelled, but he is a shame. He tries to be Ole Ntimama. He will never see Senate or parliament again. This guy is tribal very shameful

land use policy should be implemented . zoning Agri land to remain Agri land. But ledama to approach his point in a good way though Kenya we are too much tribal.

Those who know about something but don't speak about loudly is called common decency something that you would not know about if it smacked you in the face Ledama! And you wonder why the County he represents is decades behind the other 46.

I have alot of respect for this guy, he has let me down

No body can stop rague

I think Ledama is only being realistic about the raw realities of Kenya. He is right. Let's not try to be politically correct. On paper, I can buy and own property and live in any part of the country, but in reality, it's different.

Aaron Cheruiyot you will go far.........this should be the politics of year 2020

@Ledama you are just so tribal, you are my senator but you are thinking like 5 years kid.

Ole Kina passionately defending the Maa community.

Ledama, you're are the BEST. Great Work.

I support you Ledama 100%. Come to think of it, ledama is bringing it up as a proposal. Which is something up for debate. Some of the communities like the Kalenjins (pretenders) normally express it in action! I mean, all the post-election violence are always dominant in the rift regions. They even burnt the Kikuyus in a church in kiambaa, remember? So let's stop burying our heads in the sand and embrace the facts.

ledama is very danerous for this country. I'm sad

Senator Ledama Ole Kina should be nominated for the Ministry of Lands to finish these land issues he always talks about.

Ledàma talking facts, we must conserve the environment...

Cheruyout. ..high

Quality content

I don't understand Ledama, I thought BBI was about inclusivity?!

Ledama is a tribalist

Both have brilliant engagement. We all priorities differently. Good match for debate.

Kenya has clear land policy, change of user is done by the county Government. This issue can be handled by their own county.

Le dama is so tribal....i heard him on another debate saying that only masaai 's voted him and he will only represent masaai's ...he does not care for anyone else

Land conservation is a must. Thank you for teaching the dimwit a thing or two about it.

Maaa leader

This is the first time..i have seen senator aron..enjoy a show...since he had all the good points..and he was not out to defend lies as he always does in other shows

Ledama needs to know that some pple were born and raised in maa and are maa champions as well some know nothing about any other place and are fighting for maa people as well.

Chuki ni mzigo ukabila ni ujinga ledama aaaaaiiiii

No room for politics. This is about bad vs. evil. Everything coming out.

Ledama's arguments are taken but his support for them are kiddish

We seem to pretend that we didn't hear Ledama say that Non Masai leaders Held a meeting of their own in the morning. The Masai group held a separate one.

Ledama is a warrior, do you expect him to legislate injustice to his people !! Keep off from Masai land, if you want do business there invest in services etc and keep off from leadership. Just the same way you do not want see a Chinese hawking in Kiambu. Otherwise BBI means nothing .

We shall go there and subdivide into 1/8th.. You will do nothing...... willing seller and willing seller...

Too bad...this type of talk is a shame.

Ole kina good maa team leader.