Grand Mullah 👏👏👏👏👏👏 the sharpest legal city lawyer 👌🏿 Wapi likes zake jameni 😂

After WSR won the elections, I am back here to listen to SC Ahmednasir . He prophesied everything that has come to pass.

I swear Makau is making me sooo mad! How can a nation be addressed in any vernacular language. He lacked logic, he is pathetic!

Who realizes that as the discussion progresed, Mutua's Vocabularies Faded and started talking like a kenyan,,, and furthermore Arguing without mentioning Ruto and with NO Facts! he needs to Stick to tutoring his students abroad, Not kenyan Politics.

I don't agree with this professor Makau. He has no facts at all. This a different kenya not the one which used to be dewhipped by Jomo Kenyatta, Moi, No. Wait and see prof.Makau you will go back to US shamelessly. Ruto is the coming president.

If earning a PhD makes people to reason like mutua, I don't need one

Muller you really revealed the truth that Kenyans has been waiting

I love how Prof Mutua says the deputy isn't fit but in a yellow tie

When wisdom meets knowledge, Grand muller all the way.🔥🔥🔥

Grand Muller any time, very sober and well informed 🙏🙏❤️

Makau Mutua Makes one wonder if being a professor means anything at all. He argues like a pedestrian out here.

I applaud you Grand Muller. Numbers never lie and facts will always be facts!

Grand Muller we r together in this. Ruto will be our president no matter what.

"let me answer you because your arguments are not very sophisticated"

I do respecte both gentlemen. But Ahmednasir knows what is he talking about. Facts matter here.

Hi Jeff The clear distinction between the two is that Makau is a lawyer by academic, Grand muller is a lawyer by heart.

The Professor is an astute liar, childish and shameful in his display of arrogance and ignorance. Ahmed on the hand is on point and intellectual in his assessments.

Prof. Makau Mutua : "if you believe what people say against each other on a campaign trail, you will believe anything"..... but you should believe what was said at Sagana 3 because it was not a "campaign speech". 🤣These politicians!!! Tripping over their own words.🤣🤣🤣

I can listen to Grand Muller all day

Truly speaking, yesterday Ahmed scored highly in that interview.Infact,he pinned down prof,Makau resorted to emotions

Seeing Grandmullah speak gives me confidence in Ruto 😂seeing mutua speak makes me confident Raila is losing again😂

Jeff next time bring someone else to debate with the GM Ahmednasir. The GM is so genius and at another level. Makau is justan empty vessel.

Grand Mullah thanks for the wise education and Proffessor keep on studying 📚 . GM was just intelligent and intellectual in my views !!

This professor speaks like he is a guest in Jerusalem

I was intending to persue PhD, but I am nolonger interested with it coz of how Makau argue, a professor by all means must speak facts.

Mutua is actually a dwarf compared to Abdullahi reasoning. Find his logic unevenly rocky

"Grand Muller teach this guy called makau mutua it seems he doesn't understand politics."

makau mutua does not have the caliber to debate with grand mula please jeff we need someone who can debate with nasir

If I was a student in Professor Mutwa's class, I'd walk out of class every time he took the floor to teach, the good old teacher is a poor teacher of politics. He hardly says a thing without referring to his crystal ball and take this to the bank. The scary thing is he loses every time.

Uhuru should explain pandora papers money first before he talks about his Dp giving to churches . At least Ruto’s money is in the country.

What Ahmed said came to pass. Absolutely correct facts

Grand Muller has won this one....ghaai Makau kwisha, valueless 😄 🤣 😂

Gladmullah i salute you sir... Ua consistency is beyond reproach... Proud of you Sir.

Mutua just wasted my bundles.I wish Jeff hosted GM alone.

The way Ahmednassir laughs at 36:11 knowing well Uhuru wont campaign while prof is convinced he will is funny 😂😂

I wish this debate was held between two people with the same level of reasoning! Makau makes Ahmed look bad coz he is sooo shallow in his arguments! Jesus!

Exactly Grand Mulla talks sence. What is President Uhuru's job. If he knew people were stealing money. why couldn't they be prosecuted. Doesn't he have the powers?

Please don't send this mutua guy out to speak on behalf of Azimio again.

Ruto's UDA has 7M strong registered members. Uhuru won by about 8M votes. Figures don't lie. The thing is Ruto has the numbers, Raila and team have the propaganda.

Literally, Ahmednasir is a good example of what it means to be a lawyer intellectually and on the other hand our Prof is proving what it take to be a lawyer academically. The two men's arguments and the percepective from which they see things are unmatched......Grand muller is not anyone's Cup of tea to be sipped easily when it comes to this kind of debates......

Who is here after Ruto’s victory 😂

Not for anyone... But by all weights and measures, Ahmed takes it!! And with out breaking a sweat or loosing class!

If you want to know that a person has no point, he or she is not always patient, he doesn't want to give his opponent a chance to explain his point. Makau fake.

Lmao Grand muller made my night he single handedly dismantled uhuru and Raila. This other guy is too emotional 😭.

Makau Mutua proves literacy has nothing to do intelligence.

Grand Mullah just watered down all Uhuru's speech at Sagana 3 just like that..He is such an asset for the hustler nation

Final score!! Grand mullah- 10 Prof Mutua-2

After watching this I have made up my mind and will vote ruto. Thanks Prof for that.

Ahmednassir is very correct in making his argument. It's nonsense to talk some stuff which can never be substantiated.

Tha Grand Muller is so composed. Makau should watch this interview and improve. No facts

Grand muller has it-there’s no force on earth that can dare dispute everything he says,blatant facts that can’t be challenged.this entails and defines wisdom and completes political statistics and analysis.long live grand muller.

This is the mutua who has been insulting uhuru for the last 10 yrs .just because he is supporting raila he now praises him.shame on you this racist clanist so called professor.

The Grand Mullah is really intelligent Shows that being a professor in NY with an acquired accent doesn't mean you are intelligent

How can Uhuru support someone who swear himself as a president people I think he lost his way surely he should thank Ruto because he stand with him in hard time. He told Kenyans many times that Raila can not rule Kenyans why now he believe that he can make it?🤔

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ grand muller .. you are 💯 Percent correct .. kemsa thieves have never been arrested till now Uhuru is the last person who should be telling us about corruption no moral authority at all

Makau amepatikana na Grandmuller himself. Well-done Muller!

How did anyone expected Raila to win if he’s been relying on personalities like Mutua who’s understanding of fact is titled! I hope Mutua can come back to this conversation now that Raila has lost and see how stupid he sounded

What a match (or should I say - mismatch) .... Makau, excellent, superb when writing and very convincing when writing; but is not good and not comfortable, and not convincing at all with words when talking. Even his body language is out of place and awkward. At times he seems totally lost and confused. While Ahmad Nassir is the epitome of smart lawyers - intelligent, smart, sleek, suave, excellently plays with words (with an exotic accent and not bothering with grammar), and very convincing; and like most smart lawyers, superb and excellent at being spin doctors, lying and con artists.

Uhuru was really fighting his body, his body language says a lot.

I thought beeing a professor entails being able to investigate soundly and make well informed assertions and conclusions. If this professor's words are to be written and submitted for review by a simple undergraduate, they would find it a sham. Lacks coherence, facts are not backed with evidence. Im disappointed with New York University for housing such incompetence and shallow mindedness.

Makau has got no class. He can’t answer questions.

Agreed Grand Mullah. It seems like the President used DP to win the elections but never intended keep that promise of Presidency. After winning he had to discard DP and his ambitions, which Ruto sensed at handshake time. This betrayal caused the bitterness between the two to date. Out of respect DP tried to keep it low until it was obvious . This is what we now see. If he really didnt believe in Rutos capacity to lead, he wouldnt say that let Mzee now, then in future Ruto will lead.

Mutua, Kenya is suffering now and is suffering under Raila and Uhuru. What liberation do we want? Liberation from what?

*To put very plainly without mixing words, Uhuru used Ruto for his two terms and the only way to renegade his promise is to tarnish, blackmail and taint the image of the the deputy president, period*

I have never seen a mature interview like this in Kenya ever.

Thank you Jeff for matching these two.

Grand muller the brilliant mind and sober mind his intellectuality is on another level that's belittles the Prof who's full of himself..

Jeff literally had to keep quiet 😂😂 his status had been put at pause 😅😅✋✋

Very mature debate. And the 'friendly fire' is very hilarious. Grand Mullah won this one

Ahmed naasir is great lawyer and he spoke the truth

Professor nay...no brains. Bravo Ahmednasir.

Raila is selfish and operated for championing liberation. He did that for his own gains. I had changed my mind to vote for Raila, but I retrieve my vote ASAP. Uhuru you did 👎, sympathy for one wsr....

Ahmed is wise.... Trust the process 👋

Grand Muller is A true lawyer by heart,,,A worthy respectable man politics aside. An Experienced Craftsman in his trade,,,Truly Admirable👏👏👏👏

Failure is when my employees start working against me for my enemy...uhuru has failed.. gland mullah is a good example

The imbalance in the debate is due to the fact GM is independent thinker n therefore objective while the prof has reduced himself to decibels coz he seems to address himself to the employers. Not the viewer n that’s how he resorts to stretch his elastic truth.

I just one to be answered one question and I will change my mind and vote for Raila and not Ruto. How in the world, the president tells us that someone is a thief yet he can't do nothing!??? Why not prosecute or investigate? He is the most powerful president ever in kenyan history!

Am here after elections😂😂😂🤣🤣😭makau where are you

SC: "there's no ministry that doesn't lose 80% of its development budget"

Grand mullah is on another league...He is super powerful when it comes to this,,, winning a debate with grandmullah is a dream to these guy 😂😂😂😂😂

Waste dreams for Kenyans is Uhuru to remain in power 2022 and Raila. We are totally tired and sick of Uhuru and Raila

emotions aside, the grand mullah won this. the so called "professor" was very shallow in his reasoning and I feel for those who have gone through his classes. must be a waste of college fees to be taught by such a "professor"

This was a case of too much knowledge but lack of wisdom and facts on the ground. Grand Muller hammered the professor fair and squarely

Good debate, but poor moderation. Alot of interruptios from Prof, and the moderator doesn't control or apportion equal time.

Pairing a seasoned lawyer with a bloodyfckn professor in a national debate is one hell of a mistake 🤣🤣 Makau was sincerely dwarfed by the grand muller. Infact, muller was being limited by his profession.

Respect Ahmed Nasir, he predicted the winner 6 months ago. I like when he said the loser will lose again.

~am proud of u sir as somalian and learned ally

the way jeff remains silent for long, u could easily forget there are 3 fellows in the studio...😅

Am enjoying this discussion

I though living in USA as a professor he knows politics but is empty

This Makau never knows how to debate. How does he teach? He always sounds disorganized in his opinions

I love how Jeff remained silent and attentive.

Mr Jeff with due respect, please next time bring Dr Otiende Amollo to counteract the lawyer‼️ He seems to be spilling alot of dishonesty 😊

"Your arguments are not very sophisticated " mic drop Grand Mullah!

Makau Mutua's logical thinking is too warped and deficient. Aside from the foreign accent and a few Jargons the man is so exposed, Unable to counter grand Mullahs submissions or support his submissions fully. Jeff this is a waste of Airtime. Just balance the bench with Otiende Amollo or Welihye

Such a shame for a so called professor to have such meek arguments, Nassir mauled him in this debate

This Prof. Mutua doesn't sound good in his argumentation he sounds very sycophantic. I like the way the senior counsel grand mullah is putting his arguments-he is more objective than the prof.

Waaaahhh.... Is this the fellow they keep referring to as "distinguished professor"..?? Very disappointing performance on very simple issues that are even in public domain. Makau Mutua comes across as a mere heckler.., sizing every moment to spew matters that he cannot substantiate. Why cant they focus on issues, affecting the common man, instead of dwelling on mudslinging. Jaff is a very poor passive host. He cant interrogate issues, and challenge the allegations... Makau Mutua still hopes to be 'Chief Justice' or Attorney General in a Raila government. -thats why he is campaigning so hard..!! He will be so dissappointed by this "Chief Betrayer" who always betrays people who have supported him for years..! Ask NASA principals...

This is suprising, kwani nani alikuwa president! Kwa ivyo Uhuru na Raila ni incompitent kama wana weza claim pesa ilikuwa ina ibiwa kwa serekali wana sima miya na wao hawajuwi na hawachukuwi hatuwa. Kazi ya Uhuru Kenya nigani? Uongo na utoto ya Uhuru imefika ukingoni. Mara Ruto anataka muuwa mara sijuwi nini. Muache ujinga and do not take Kenyans for granted!

Be sure come 9 August uhuru will be surprised after Dp , win the election' s , Uhuru & Raila knows very well Ruto is strong in politics