This has been the best conversation I've listened to in Kenya since time immemorial........Thank you Prof PLO Lumumba and Dr Barrack Muluka for sharing your thoughts and wisdom.....

What a discourse! Sound and profound. Prof PLO Lumumba and Dr. Barrack Muluka at it. Deep and didactic discussion.

Great forum,great intellectuals kudos to Barack Muluka and Lumumba.

I'm writing this comment here so that anyone who likes it I'll be reminded of this powerful conversation

What a statement from Professor . That’s the way to go , come out Mr. President and take lead before things fall apart

Barack and PLO please always bring them back for open , mature ,entertaining and very educative debates

And that's how a debate is done. Not arguing over each other like politicians do all the time.

Jeff is so good at interviewing, the conversation is so smooth and seamless.

The best conversation series ever i have listened to on youtube ever. These two great thinkers are so amazing and their knowledge is amazing.

Note: Make me president, but they are not telling you what they'll make you

I wish many Kenyans would reach this level of understanding. Keep up and save this country.

No one can ever be led to the wrong direction if they actually know the way.

Good debate gentlemen! I fully agree with Prof Lumumba's argument that there are no eternal clauses in constitutional interpretation. I also associate myself with his eloquent conclusions on the sorry state of the nation.Great panelists

'THERE IS NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES'. What an interview it once existed!

I wish this demagogs could listen to the leaders that Kenya needs , lumumba and barrack I salute you keep it up the wax of the Kenyan ears will melt and they'll one day listen

I am terribly perplexed, this English is not even in dictionary, let even the say. This is marvelously a good talk and I hope politicians should listen quietly and desperately.

Awesome!! I can't get enough of this!! May the presence of the two gentlemen prevail in our mainstream media until the glue in the Kenyans' ears melt. This is what I call good staff. As sweet as what my beautiful wife permits me to enjoy during odd hours!!! Thank you JKL.

Jeff bring Murathe 2gether with these 2 gentlemen 😊

It's entertainment to watch them flex their tongues, quintessentially how bardolatry has become a religion to us language students!

Quality debate gentlemen! PLO seem to have rested well or have had burgers for him and I in his recent trip to the US. Great mind!

If this was Miguna Miguna, Omg... There would have been a zombie here, conman and despot hawangepumzika. Myself I would have felt a zombie too. Hehe

Media has failed Kenyans in equal measure. They have given life to bad politics, they don’t set development agenda

The interviewer deserves an Oscar grade award

"A COUNTRY LIKE THIS ONE DOES NOT VOTE FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF!" That statement moved me into tears.

Vie for this presidency seat PLO

Elections should be episodical battles and not permanent wars as what happens in Kenya. It makes it very difficult to economically develop.

What I have been asking for if the media keep oof politics Kenya will move on

Note: facts are sacred, without opinions

PLO's is the best.

All the Kenyan citizens say is, tunaomba serikali itusaidie. They should demand for govt to deliver services, not beg. They have the power. Vote these goons that have been in govt forever eating. You have the power of the vote. Media is useless. Their discussion are useless.

Muluka must be honest with Kenyans. The economic problems the country is facing stemmed from the heist which Uhuruto organised in 2014/5/6/7. We remember the Eurobond €2. SGR Ksh 750billion. Kimwarer Aror Ksh 120 billion. Not to mention the school computer project. All these and many more happened in the 1st term of Jubilee Administration. Handshake was not in existence during this period. Muluka must therefore stop lying that handshake is the root of the economic mess. In the last 4 yrs we have witnessed the Covid heist. We must acknowledge that as well. However the lies being peddled that Jubilee did wonders in the 1st term must be fully debunk.

15:23 Is an apt verbalisation of the sense of urgency called for. Permitting a campaign cycle as protracted as it is premature to hijack the affairs of state to the extent that even public health during a global pandemic is relegated to mere afterthought is bordering on criminal. The level of seeming apathy threatens to undo much of what has the potential to be a comparably decent legacy.

We hv people to elect.....but we always follow our village elders.

I wonder how the sign interpretation lady is coping 🤔 with professor plo..

PLO is always my mentor.

We need unity in our motherland not selfish leaders who pretend too love our God principles

If we can get the best of the USA, the best of Scandinavia, and the best of China, we sure will be the BEST.

Note: learning on the go is not good. Let's be proactive

Note: let's put our hands on deck, let's make our demands be known so the leaders be sensitive of them, let's not blame any politician for the are all alike. In short, let's hold peaceful demos

Note: handshake was a band aid solution

PLO is very smart

9:15. when plo said muunntuuu..... 😂 😂 😂 i felt that... Kenya 🇰🇪 should be disbanded

its shengi shiue and the general audience dance to their tunes in different styles

Note: lizard jumping from great iroko tree mean getting a promotion, or higher respect. You are the lizard

An year ago and these gentlemen said just what has happened. Chebukati has been blamed and election petitioned

Note: Don't stone leaders motorcades.

Brilliant brains

You can only keep discipline if you are disciplined. Not that easy at the end.

Bbi was here to postpone problems,aki PLO you commonsense always prevails

Barrack is Brilliant but since he became an affiliate to some party, it has made him insensible. I see him struggling to articulate issues here. Prof. Never disappoints as clear as always.

Where is the respect and the rule of law????????

RAILA IS AN ENIGMA, NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND HIM SO DONT ASK THAT QUESTION. PLEASE.

Kenya is losing a lot to Tanzania, what remains to them is their English egoism.....

YES

Such institutions are sacrosanct 😁

If i can hear what PLO says here, i would be a different person tomorrow

This Barack guy has been bought

HOW DO WE HEAR EXCEPT THROUGH THE MEDIA..... LETS NOT HEAR THEM MEDIA...BLACK THEM OUT

Jeff can you have that discussion in Kiswahili. It's a language understood by more voters. Am only asking.

2022 drums of war have started please kenyans be wise lucky for us the rich we are safe waku teseka wata teseka to

The two western alliance tag team are wallowing in the lyrical miasma of subterfuge. One otieno loch is indignantly non commital while his brother Muluka is not wavering in the tanga tanga tainted talk points.

Nice debate

Wenye kuchaguliwa wawe na degree na wenye kuchagua wawe wamesoma mpaka wapi? Mbunge wa masaini aeleze amefanya nini kwake zaidi ya wale hataki bungeni? Plo Lumumba ukipata nafasi eleza wakenya wakati ukiwa na antcorruption uliopata na wizi wa pesa na mali ya selikali ni wasomi au hawakwenda shule walishidwa na mahesabu? Elimu ni zuri lakini isitumiwe kama sababu ya kufugia yeyote inje.

I STUGGLE ?@*\&*

PLO Wacha hiyo vizungu mingi you are not going to make Kenyans understand your language,wewe we are in a third world country with so many fools like you,we can't plan and organize any thing because of lack of unity,big headedness,Barrack you failed in khwisero because of arrogance and you have failed already because our expectations about you were very high but you were a pale shadow of yourself,hii literature mingi iko ndani yako haujui kuifanyia application,amka kaka and do your work with focus come back to your senses and take leadership

Sorry, i almost slept Cant keep watching this. PLO ni kuongea tu. We want realities not fantasies

This gentleman are completely off point though eloquent in speech but not willing to speak the real truth.The real problem eating Kenya now is the fact that the two politicians build an unconstitutional BBI that delved Kenya in apolitical limpo that now Kenya find itself in.If they wanted to address the problem it must begin with what was declared by the court as unconstitutional.That is the genesis of Kenya s political dilemma and if you discuss and avoid the genesis of the problem then you are completely off and can’t seem to help.I think the media is playing it

It's entertainment to watch them flex their tongues, quintessentially how bardolatry has become a religion to us language students!

Note: let's put our hands on deck, let's make our demands be known so the leaders be sensitive of them, let's not blame any politician for the are all alike. In short, let's hold peaceful demos

Such institutions are sacrosanct 😁