Joachim Meyer - Kunst des Fechtens

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Björn Rüther

Björn Rüther

9 жыл бұрын

Training mal anders, wie es hätte sein können zu Meyers Zeiten - in zeitgenössischer Kleidung, ohne die gewohnte moderne Schutzausrüstung.
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Training in a different manner, the way it could have been at the time of Meyer - in historical clothing, without the modern protection gear we got used to.

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@JahnosSardonis
@JahnosSardonis 4 жыл бұрын
The song choice is hilarious. They are literally saying "Why do you kill me? Why are you treating me so poorly?"
@thepunishersequence291
@thepunishersequence291 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this funny?
@titusjuventiuscelsus9758
@titusjuventiuscelsus9758 4 жыл бұрын
HA
@santiagoz.s.1024
@santiagoz.s.1024 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepunishersequence291 Cuz its a really "solemm" song about a guy saying literally "Hey, why are you so mean to me?"
@stanlim9182
@stanlim9182 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the longsword was the one that’s complaining
@omari2306
@omari2306 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot "I siendo tu, tan mal me tratas, mi matadora." It's a romantic song from the renaiscance meaning, that cheating should not be a thing in a Spanish relationship.
@taylorahern3755
@taylorahern3755 2 жыл бұрын
So this is exactly how a Fencing match would be conducted in late 1400s-early 1500s Germany (southern Germany to be specific)?? Amazing!! And what a fantastic demonstration. Just superb! You have such swordplay down to a sweet & fancy science. And the period clothing & costumes that you chose to wear really honored & beautifully highlighted the rough time period that such fancy & outstanding swordplay came out of & represented (1450-1550!). Great Job!! That was a real joy to watch! Keep up the excellent work👍👍👍
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 8 жыл бұрын
Best longsword video I have seen online. Clearly you are fencers who understand the flow, distance, timing, and also the "true place" as Gentleman George Silver would say. Greetings from a Meyer student at Salle St. George in Seattle, Washington USA.
@callusklaus2413
@callusklaus2413 5 жыл бұрын
The heck, I have never heard of your group, I'm with Grit City in Tacoma, I fence with Lonin all the time, is your group still together?
@BubblewrapHighway
@BubblewrapHighway 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Seattle and Tacoma for a year each and never heard of either group.
@user-cb2hw8nb6u
@user-cb2hw8nb6u Жыл бұрын
It's also have in Japanese ...(reasnable action stil) イタリア語になってたらスマソ
@JosephBHZ
@JosephBHZ 7 жыл бұрын
The singers asking why their women treat them so badly and calling them killers (matadora) went pretty well with the girl showing great skill
@caseydubois3645
@caseydubois3645 3 жыл бұрын
I've got to say, while I'm more of a Fiore guy myself, I can really see the art behind, and the effectiveness of, the Meyer system. I really should get around to studying it. Maybe once I wrap up my Fiore studies.
@ArxenZaonox
@ArxenZaonox 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, this video is extremely helpful. I am currently studying this style in attempts to teach myself using guides and books as well as well done videos such as this. Currently I have only practiced movement, stances, and defensive blocks. I was just recently taking a closer look into how to correctly parry and attacks, but my comprehension fell short. This video illustrated many techniques I have read about and attempted to visualize. Some didn't quite make sense to me. However, after seeing this video, I have had certain maneuvers suddenly click and I have had answers to some of my questions about positioning answered. I plan to refer back to this video when I begin my offensive training. Great job!
8 жыл бұрын
+Arxen Zaonox Thank you very much! We will start to produce new Vids like this in Summer. Also many new technique Videos will follow. Stay tuned and thx again for your Kind words :)
@JTWilliams74
@JTWilliams74 9 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in hearing the female fencer's thoughts on fighting in a dress and what difficulties it presented.
@amelieeilken611
@amelieeilken611 8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Williams Von Starcher That actually turned out to be less problematic than I expected. The movement in the upper body is barely restricted at all and as long as I kept the low stance and sticked to big, single steps, the lower dress didn't bother me too much, either. But the dress did cause problems when it came to double side steps or multiple smaller steps.
@JTWilliams74
@JTWilliams74 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thank you for the response by the way. Dresses aren't your typical everyday HEMA wear but I do see the importance of fencing in historical clothing if we want to understand it better.
@amelieeilken611
@amelieeilken611 8 жыл бұрын
+Thunderchrist Ministries International I was actually inspired by a painting of Emilie of Saxony, but you are none the less very close (so close that I am genuinely impressed) - it is a drawing of Cranach and the dress itself is very similar to the dresses in the paintings of Judiths.
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 8 жыл бұрын
+Amelie Eilken, well done lady, you are my new crush
@SurmaSampo
@SurmaSampo 8 жыл бұрын
I know plenty and when the dress is designed for it there is an advantage to be had in obfuscating the exact location of the legs and feet.
@WeissM89
@WeissM89 7 жыл бұрын
WTF. I'm Spanish and I almost didn't realise the song is in Spanish. It says something I would translate as "Say, moor bitch, say, killer(?), why you kill me. Being yours, you treat me so badly". I'm speechless.
@DenysNerysPlay
@DenysNerysPlay 7 жыл бұрын
For me almost the same translation, I speak Portuguese!
@stormgeddon
@stormgeddon 6 жыл бұрын
WeissM89 a mi tambien me ha costado
@eluves
@eluves 5 жыл бұрын
Me so speechless too, Madrid typing here lol
@longyuanchuan
@longyuanchuan 5 жыл бұрын
Jjajajajaja justo lo que estaba pensando xD
@El-Silver
@El-Silver 5 жыл бұрын
really yo lo note inmediatamente aunque por 1 segundo crei que era portuges
@sethlifelong4250
@sethlifelong4250 3 жыл бұрын
Bjon You should be an actor! You people are great! All of you. I feel like you all would have made great soldiers.
@christopheresquire947
@christopheresquire947 7 жыл бұрын
may i ask where you acquired those majestic pants, dear Sirs? Edward
@JosephBHZ
@JosephBHZ 7 жыл бұрын
The singers asking why their women treat the so badly and calling them killers (matadora) went pretty well with the girl showing great skill
@Shindai
@Shindai 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool, great music, love the costumes.
@earlkzb
@earlkzb 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel is gold. A great support to the reading of Meyer!
@Priestbokmei1
@Priestbokmei1 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have really good control! Great video! 😀
@user-rh1io
@user-rh1io 6 жыл бұрын
This is AWESOME! if you speed up the video to x1.5 their swordplay is 10 times better than movie sword fight I've ever seen!
@stephena1196
@stephena1196 4 жыл бұрын
That is true without speeding up the film.
@noahpayne5065
@noahpayne5065 4 жыл бұрын
I notice something I find interesting in this video, as opposed to others I've seen on historical fencing. The combatants don't seem to change the position of their hands on the hilt of the sword; if the left hand grips the pommel, it stays on the pommel. Other videos, likely inspired by different fetbutche, show maneuvres where the combatant changes their grip quite often. I find this interesting because for the man in armor, with a hand protected solid lames of steel, the unmoving position of the hands would probably easier. Very fascinating video!
@georgefreesamurai
@georgefreesamurai 13 күн бұрын
Schön die Grundlagen gefilmt und untermalt.
@juanpablogonzalez8528
@juanpablogonzalez8528 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, this have been invaluable for me, thanks
@DonRomualdo
@DonRomualdo 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I liked the flow.
@Gloin79
@Gloin79 7 жыл бұрын
This is 100% wrong the pants need to be WAY puffier
7 жыл бұрын
yep it cant be puffy enough :D
@Redsuit11
@Redsuit11 6 жыл бұрын
1000% more puff needed clearly
@edi9892
@edi9892 5 жыл бұрын
I don´t think they got the form, they deserve, but they are very loose and could be quite comfortable, depending on the fabric. That´s something to think about in summer...
@markusjack9208
@markusjack9208 3 жыл бұрын
skill is secondary due to the puffiness of our panties!!!
@Judicial78
@Judicial78 5 жыл бұрын
3:39 I am assuming that attack does double damage and rolls two dice?
@marceloferrari4242
@marceloferrari4242 5 жыл бұрын
Técnica muito bem demonstrada,ótima instrução
@wacky.racoon
@wacky.racoon 4 жыл бұрын
I can't stop flinching when watching videos without protection gear !
@jaderayven
@jaderayven 6 жыл бұрын
Very fun. Hope to see more like this.
@vladimirmazurin2521
@vladimirmazurin2521 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! And girl with sword is amazing!)
@Jonathan_agurto_9Bernal
@Jonathan_agurto_9Bernal 3 жыл бұрын
bellísimo,poético, señorial y heróico,felicitaciones!!
@NICEFINENEWROBOT
@NICEFINENEWROBOT 3 жыл бұрын
This is fine art. Don't know why filmmakers mostly ignore that.
@horrorhouse16
@horrorhouse16 7 жыл бұрын
i think this is your best video!! make another one like this !!!
7 жыл бұрын
We want to... :)
@horrorhouse16
@horrorhouse16 7 жыл бұрын
Nice!! im exited to see it!! :)
@kiotonizaki9831
@kiotonizaki9831 4 жыл бұрын
Ótimo vide-o... bom para treino gostei ganhou um inscrito.
@Ghastly_Grinner
@Ghastly_Grinner 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy seeing the point being used to thrust often I only see edge stories being utilized in longsword videos
@thecasuallongsword
@thecasuallongsword 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@Warszyc
@Warszyc 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the motivation
@GamerMax
@GamerMax 2 жыл бұрын
You made it look good. Like the music.
@horrorhouse16
@horrorhouse16 7 жыл бұрын
whats the name of the music on the beginning and on the end of the video?
@JRT176
@JRT176 7 жыл бұрын
May I ask what camera you use to film these? I love your work and I'm looking to film some Mair interpretations ;)
@TheGodTell
@TheGodTell 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful!!
@Shiresgammai
@Shiresgammai Жыл бұрын
Very well done! Did some movie studios hire you as fight choreographers in Germany? I ask because I believe that you would do a splendid job!
@lichterwald
@lichterwald 8 жыл бұрын
Sehr schönes Video!
@jgriesm
@jgriesm 5 жыл бұрын
Totally my style of fencing. Going to be buying a feder in a month.
@IAmACrab2020
@IAmACrab2020 7 жыл бұрын
Can I ask where you bought the clothing for the men?
@IAmACrab2020
@IAmACrab2020 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man though that website is hard to navigate rip though any idea if they ship to the US?
@Warszyc
@Warszyc 4 жыл бұрын
beautifull soundtrack super tatcher
@Vitadoc01
@Vitadoc01 9 жыл бұрын
Sehr schön!
@DavidNefelimSlayer
@DavidNefelimSlayer 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@honeybear278
@honeybear278 7 жыл бұрын
Toll gemacht!
@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician
@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician Жыл бұрын
Perfection!
@thedukeofskull1383
@thedukeofskull1383 3 жыл бұрын
VERY INTERESTING ! 👍
@robinmarks4771
@robinmarks4771 4 жыл бұрын
Which federschwerts are being used? The ornate crossguards look amazing.
4 жыл бұрын
Pavel Moc 16. Century Federschwert
@Kumofan
@Kumofan 6 жыл бұрын
Dost thou not end thine opponent rightly?
@titanscerw
@titanscerw 9 жыл бұрын
pure awesome
@kombatunit66
@kombatunit66 7 жыл бұрын
Love this vid. KdF!
@eduardocorte7142
@eduardocorte7142 5 жыл бұрын
Where did You get the shoes?
@100RAmen
@100RAmen 8 жыл бұрын
bravo! brothers!
@earlkzb
@earlkzb 4 жыл бұрын
Which music did you used for the intro and credits?
@earlkzb
@earlkzb 4 жыл бұрын
Found it, it's a part of La Negrina from Mateo Flecha: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ncWqpa-Dr9mZgJs.html
@thibaultghesquiere
@thibaultghesquiere 9 жыл бұрын
Brillant!
@Joe-ci3te
@Joe-ci3te 4 жыл бұрын
In the future is there any chance for some videos with German renissance music in the background? Maybe something at least semi-local to Meyer's region. Anyhow, beautiful work and good job.
4 жыл бұрын
We will work on a second video like this in the future. I keep that in mind :)!
@Adamcadabra91
@Adamcadabra91 5 жыл бұрын
I need to see this in like super slow motion, I can't register the moves because im unfamiliar with the technique. Even if I saw the steps in slow motion, how do you know what moves to use and remember everything in the fast paced heat of battle? This stuff absolutely take skill!
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 жыл бұрын
in the german tradition we call it Fuhlen. Translates to Feeling. Basically it's sensitivity training, and your muscles develop a sense for varying pressure and you can just respond based on that.
@kyletoelle
@kyletoelle 7 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the pants?
@Borissh89
@Borissh89 3 жыл бұрын
This video made me realize my hat game is weak.
@Hitesh.
@Hitesh. 25 күн бұрын
Self-rooooast.
@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168
@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168 8 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those swords?
8 жыл бұрын
+Alex Hutchins Pavel Moc from www.swords.cz/
@kalvinchester4068
@kalvinchester4068 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the costumes?
@madbaum
@madbaum 9 жыл бұрын
Sehr cool!
@kenanacampora
@kenanacampora Жыл бұрын
Dear sons of Vikings...great job.
@ciro43
@ciro43 4 жыл бұрын
Muy bueno.
@dorad100
@dorad100 9 жыл бұрын
I don't like the Meyer style of fencing, but this looks beautiful!
@rgarcia7392
@rgarcia7392 9 жыл бұрын
That was cool.
@GhostCell47
@GhostCell47 6 жыл бұрын
Impressive.
@larsf92
@larsf92 8 жыл бұрын
where did you get the pants from?
8 жыл бұрын
+fockmen They were tailor-made from www.historical-costumes.eu/
@Gaius453
@Gaius453 Жыл бұрын
2:00 is this the intro?
@kurtdolezal1915
@kurtdolezal1915 6 жыл бұрын
von wem ist denn die Musik bitte?
@HadrianDan
@HadrianDan Ай бұрын
Best part 2 minutes in continuous fight without either side wins with retreat and stance changes and duel kept going before a decisive conclusion. Like a tennis match where both sides play for a long time is finer game
@anthonyrobinson7715
@anthonyrobinson7715 8 жыл бұрын
Lovely
@MelvinDukowski
@MelvinDukowski 7 жыл бұрын
What's the music?
@kurtdolezal1915
@kurtdolezal1915 6 жыл бұрын
do you know this musik? the name of this song?
@kurtdolezal1915
@kurtdolezal1915 6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nth6n8iqtt3VhmQ.html
@paulmurphy216
@paulmurphy216 2 жыл бұрын
Try watching it again at 1.5 speed. Not as instructive but really cool. The music sounds a bit off though ;)
@victorlui5955
@victorlui5955 Жыл бұрын
🖤
@veritasetcaritas
@veritasetcaritas 4 ай бұрын
This is still one of my favorite videos on your channel.
4 ай бұрын
thx mate :)
@robertfogelberg7538
@robertfogelberg7538 4 жыл бұрын
Si well done
@derarty4290
@derarty4290 5 жыл бұрын
Wo bekommt man solch Schwerter her?
@flavioaecioalvati4095
@flavioaecioalvati4095 4 жыл бұрын
Nice see a women fencing 👍💪
@UniversoNOLIFE
@UniversoNOLIFE 4 жыл бұрын
name of the first song please ( woman singer)
4 жыл бұрын
SAN SABEYA GUGURUMBÉ (La Negrina) - Mateo Flecha "el Viejo"
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan Жыл бұрын
hatte die lady in ihrem viktorianischem autfit eine zeitmaschine? da liegen doch mindestens 300-400 jahre dazwischen :)
Жыл бұрын
Das passt eigentlich ganz gut zusammen. Männer und Frauen tragen hier typische Kleidung der frühen renaissance des späten 16. Jahrhunderts :)
@luzdekandil
@luzdekandil 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha que buena música
@neptun8450
@neptun8450 4 жыл бұрын
Wie lange habt ihr gebraucht, bis ihr auf diesem Niveau wart?
4 жыл бұрын
Nicht sehr lange. Nur ein paar Jahre wöchentliches training hatten wir damals bisher gehabt. Wir wollen irgendwann mal ein remake dazu machen denn vieles gefällt uns heutzutage nicht mehr :)
@user-dg4tl4bw6v
@user-dg4tl4bw6v 6 жыл бұрын
Why he hold sword ring hilt inside?
@user-dg4tl4bw6v
@user-dg4tl4bw6v 6 жыл бұрын
I was wrong.
@bruisedhelmet8819
@bruisedhelmet8819 3 жыл бұрын
I think this confusing love triangle could be resolved over a long drink and a short talk.
@tomekjan79
@tomekjan79 4 жыл бұрын
it's unbecoming of knight and a gentleman to attack a dame like that !!!
@DoctorTooploop
@DoctorTooploop 4 жыл бұрын
the woman is breaking my immersion
@annoyed707
@annoyed707 4 жыл бұрын
But Yoda, Ewoks, and The Force don't?
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, but read somewhere that in those times, in a sword to sword fight, you must avoid almost all blade to blade contact, because first you should aim for the flesh and vital points of your oponent, and second to prevent over damage to your weapon, which were very expensive back then 🤔
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Oskar! That must be an awful source. That is just nonsense :) Blades in Europe are made for bind and parry. Also your first intent is your self-protection.
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 жыл бұрын
@ Björn Rüther Hi. And yes, you're right, i didn't meant to say all the blade to blade contact, but the "Hollywood" clinking metal to metal contact, for the reasons i mention and they explained. Even if we know there are mayor differences beetween asían and euro sword combat, that source extended the explanation to samurais, and their swords, saying that those weapons, been sharped lethal and all, were not made to bind and parri, but to cut, and even thrust with the apropiated tech, but never in the way movies despict them, because the metal was more fragile than the europeans, thats why samurais trained to be fast and to end a fight quickly. So, the people who wrote all that, tried to apply the same principles, in some extend, to euro "duellists" on their explanation.
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hellion73 When it comes to japanese sword styles, part of the reason they focuses so heavily on cuts and not bind work was because the swords themselves, while beautiful, were of fairly low quality. If you hard block something with a katana it'd just warp or even break. Whereas a longsword is designed to take much more impact. katanas were a personal protection weapon designed to show status and defend a samurai in civilian settings/times of peace. Longswords were battlefield weapons that dealt with people in full plate armour and needed to be sturdy.
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielsmith5664Yeah, thank you for the rep, and answear to my doubts about the matter. Ohhh i been infatuated with all about sword fighting since my chilhood, wish i could be near peple like you to train, practice and have access to first hand knoledge, but i have to conform just with books and videos like yours to figure things up 👍
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hellion73 Try to find a friend who wants to practice with you. Sometimes just having people with a willingness to learn and a bit of time with manuscripts/books can go a long way. You could also try to find a LARP group near you (totally not the best way I know), but it might give you a safe place to try techniques.
@eugenekyte6783
@eugenekyte6783 4 жыл бұрын
Кто эта девушка? Мое почтение!
@mrmoustachio3069
@mrmoustachio3069 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooh, so this is where the intro came from/
@witcher_helms5144
@witcher_helms5144 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Hollywood...this is how Nobles should be fighting in your movies!!! Not swinging their swords like baseball bats!
@Velkan1396
@Velkan1396 5 жыл бұрын
Heyyyy, spanish music :D
@omari2306
@omari2306 2 жыл бұрын
Mi matadooora porque me matas porque me matas, tan mal me tratas tan mal me tratas, i love the 16th century boy.
@societyofhistoricalfencing7836
@societyofhistoricalfencing7836 7 жыл бұрын
KdF for life!!!!!
@jamesonahill
@jamesonahill 6 жыл бұрын
Man, im so bad at sparring. I can never defend right. I'm very bad at predicting moves
@danielsmith5664
@danielsmith5664 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that has helped me, is just understanding that there is only a set number of movements that can be done in response to your action. If they do something that is not one of those set moves they die, or double with you.
@moonshinetheleocat1235
@moonshinetheleocat1235 4 жыл бұрын
I fear anyone who can sword fight in a damn dress.
@can9546
@can9546 5 жыл бұрын
For honor looks better in 2k18
@can9546
@can9546 5 жыл бұрын
Camolaik zalog uspeha
@derarty4290
@derarty4290 5 жыл бұрын
1:46 decent
@AA-wd2or
@AA-wd2or 2 жыл бұрын
Ottomans have total different tehinques and weapons
@eugenekyte6783
@eugenekyte6783 4 жыл бұрын
Почему с голыми руками? Где перчатки?
@gibbinifugg
@gibbinifugg Жыл бұрын
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