Jockey stopping a horse from winning (Lingfield Greyed A)

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TheRebel

TheRebel

6 жыл бұрын

Jockey Richard Johnson stopping his horse "Greyed A" from winning in the 1:20 at Lingfield on the - 14/11/17
Blatant none trier and did anything get done?? nope. not even looked into by the stewards. No doubt the excuse being the horse had something up with it. but will be posting more videos of these blatant none triers. they can't all have something up with them.
Watch as he sits in a prominent position, then takes it to the lead with a circuit to go, then watch in amazement as he just sits on it and then pulls it up. the commentator tries to mask it by claiming its dropped away, anyone with a brain can see its only there for a run round.
Cheating bastards!

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@stephenburke5967
@stephenburke5967 6 жыл бұрын
This horse has had breathing problems when in Ireland.He had a soft pallet op after this race then upped a further 6f and won.There is absolutly zero evidence of the horse been stopped in this race but to the untrained eye everything looks different.
@seanwebber4192
@seanwebber4192 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you look at the 3 horses that were up front early they all pulled up they just went too fast in sticky ground. Your just talking through your pocket
@5BIRDOG5
@5BIRDOG5 6 жыл бұрын
This is a reason why he is a champion! He felt something from the horse that we did not detect on screen and the part that is noble about pulling him up was not injuring the horse, himself or anyone else on the course! It's refreshing to see a race where the concern is for the horse and not the purse!
@Lousy_Bastard
@Lousy_Bastard 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus I'm gobsmacked.
@MoniekRedhead
@MoniekRedhead Жыл бұрын
Totally agree @5birdog5 If you weren't on the horse you can assume all you want, he must have had his reasons.
@sidneygreen9120
@sidneygreen9120 6 ай бұрын
Cobblers
@MrKenthepainter
@MrKenthepainter 6 жыл бұрын
Been studying horse racing since 1978 and it’s plainly obvious that this horse wasn’t going to get a place a long way from home . A lesser jockey would have flogged it , but Richard looked after it and saved it for another day which I,m sure connections were very happy with !
@robharnett2919
@robharnett2919 2 жыл бұрын
Someone lost a bet methinks and is a little bit bitter about it! 😂
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 5 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with the ride
@carolroberts1922
@carolroberts1922 6 жыл бұрын
you sound the type of gambler who wants to see the jockey flogging his horse to exhaustion just for the sake of a few quid. Pitiful
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.. they'd rather the horse DIE, winning them a fistful of cash than be humane.
@anglojamaicanmgtow3338
@anglojamaicanmgtow3338 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly Carol.
@Kevjohno
@Kevjohno 6 жыл бұрын
Show it the persuader McCoy would of whipped the living shit out if it
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong, if the horse is done for then down tools by all means, nothing against a jockey doing that. This however was pulled up after he was done schooling it in public ffs, Johnson is a good horseman there's no denying that, but he's the go to jockey for "teaching" it everyone knows that. This horse won 3 times within 10 months after this, absolutely p*ssed in by 30l in one of them.
@mikemurr3510
@mikemurr3510 2 жыл бұрын
@@therebel4332 I don't see any intentional trickery here,it's as simple as the horse wasn't performing like the jockey expect hence he felt something was wrong and to flog the horse any more would still not take the race so simply Trew in the towel to try another day...it's because how early the pull-up was makes it seem wired.but nothing to see here really
@toffeeman42
@toffeeman42 6 жыл бұрын
greyed a was a decent hurdler, this was his first attempt chasing, lingfield is quite a stiff chasing test,especially when testing ground conditions. Looked like the horse was lacking confidence in its jumping which Richard Johnson was responsive to, hence being pulled up
@marioamato7102
@marioamato7102 Жыл бұрын
If u can't race on Lingfield fakin Park you got problems coming from an ex champion jockey
@marioamato7102
@marioamato7102 Жыл бұрын
And I've actually fuked Hayley Turner by the winning line 😂
@mbrow
@mbrow 6 жыл бұрын
You can see at 2:47 that the horse is really tiring, and has a hard time clearing that jump. Sorry you lost some $, but good on the jockey for keeping the horse's health in mind.
@davewright8206
@davewright8206 6 жыл бұрын
agreed i cant see much here,
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
That's because there's nothing to see.. This is typical of a steeplechase race. Half the horses tire because their jockeys try to get too much too fast from them.. This is obvious when he blasts Greyed A to the front... and that was all he had... and immediately began falling back. Race over.
@leebrown1281
@leebrown1281 3 жыл бұрын
They only care about a horse if it's successful , they don't give 2 shits about the horse. It's all about the money and the con
@ivy2q
@ivy2q 6 жыл бұрын
Woah, a jockey that cares about his horses health.
@andypattison1997
@andypattison1997 5 жыл бұрын
You want to give up betting ffs he did nothin wrong
@slingshot4403
@slingshot4403 6 жыл бұрын
The horse was tired hadn't a chance Richard done noting wrong
@alyyj1925
@alyyj1925 6 жыл бұрын
The jockey knew the horse couldn't make it.
@patrickfarrell5092
@patrickfarrell5092 6 жыл бұрын
Greeting from Ireland: Seriously are you kidding us, did you not see the steam pumping out of him 4 out, the horse was obviously in need of a run. Sounds like you have an unhealthy ulterior agenda suggesting the horse was pulled, I'm not saying it still doesn't go on but was obviously not the case on this occasion.
@michaelrudge3927
@michaelrudge3927 6 жыл бұрын
Cant see how you can say this when there are 4 Horses doing the same
@markholt7952
@markholt7952 Жыл бұрын
Cos he didn't have 50p on any of those, just this one lol
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't see anything here that l don't see every day. It's obvious that the jockey felt the horse wasn't travelling and didn't punish it. It ends up being pulled up.
@jonmowat6563
@jonmowat6563 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Williams I take it that Horse must've done him for a few quid then? 👍🍺😎
@MrB3ngy
@MrB3ngy 2 жыл бұрын
Just wasn’t travelling well. He was bumped a couple of times but didn’t respond. Can’t win them all buddy.
@casshendry7162
@casshendry7162 6 жыл бұрын
What a a dumb clip / assertion against the jockey. The jockey like 3 or 4 other jockeys in this race were looking after the we'll being of the horse(s) first and foremost.
@horseracingstuff
@horseracingstuff 6 жыл бұрын
If you'd done some actual research (I know that's not a word you know) you'd realise that this was the horse's debut over fences. He was joint top weight in a novices handicap chase. He started to drift back down the field and then made a mistake down the back straight (which somehow you missed).
@MoniekRedhead
@MoniekRedhead Жыл бұрын
Just a question from someone who isn't familiar with hurdle races (but with flat racing). If this was his debut on fences, how can he be top weighted? I'm thinking he's an ex racehorse that had maybe a high handicap general weight and that weight is being (partly) used when he starts his debut on fences??? If not like this, would you mind explaining it to me? I did see the horse getting tired and having to drag himself over the fences but I see it later in the video when he's already at the back. I noticed him getting tired at 3.15. And what was the mistake he made? Thanks in advance for your answer
@MrBoxingaddict
@MrBoxingaddict 6 жыл бұрын
Complete bollocks, the horse was not travelling and lost touch, you don't start pushing and hitting a horse that clearly has nothing to give.
@TheZigster72
@TheZigster72 6 жыл бұрын
Geez you obviously lost money on the race then lol Have you ever ridden a horse ? Jockey obviously knew no point in pushing it, they are not machines and can have off days just like humans.
@bhaktaanthony9586
@bhaktaanthony9586 3 жыл бұрын
I always remember what an old friend of mine used to tell me,,,,Horseracing and betting on horses, are two different things,,,,,its so true and so hard for the jockeys to ride a winner,,,,such a hard game,,,,,
@garywatson7196
@garywatson7196 2 жыл бұрын
I recall that horse won a couple of races prior to this run and the reality is winning races or going close can take its toll on some horses especially low grade ones.
@ukfrosty
@ukfrosty 6 жыл бұрын
horse had no stamina. It wasn't like he was trying to pull it up when lenghts ahead at the last.
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
this guy is a buffoon. He thinks because the horse and rider have won races before they should win every race they're in or he's pulling off the horse. Rubbish. The horse got a peek at 1st place for about 3 strides and then fell right back at the next jump and though you see the rider urging humanely, the horse tosses head left and right saying "FUCK YOU!!! NO!!!!" so he sat back and said 'well fuck it then.'
@davidmarr6778
@davidmarr6778 6 жыл бұрын
Whilst I agree racing, particularly NH, is still far from being completely straight, there isn't anything underhand going on here imo. Everyone is entitled to their view though, obviously.
@boxingpro8369
@boxingpro8369 6 жыл бұрын
I backed that horse that day and i back him next time out at Plumpton with Johnson on board and he won but i must say you haven't a clue about horses if you think Johnson stopped him that day...
@forgive7449
@forgive7449 6 жыл бұрын
please tell us WHY the horse tired so much ?
@MoniekRedhead
@MoniekRedhead Жыл бұрын
@@forgive7449 top weighted in his fence debut? Heavy track? Tired? Maybe Jock felt something and decided not to force him and taking the risk of a deadly fall? Etcetera ...
@ytmom
@ytmom 6 жыл бұрын
Good grief, it's not like Greyed A was the only horse that was pulled out. Do you not care about the other 2 or 3 because you didn't have bets on them, too? Whinging.
@daviddillingham7388
@daviddillingham7388 3 жыл бұрын
vigurious ?
@seanscanlon9067
@seanscanlon9067 6 жыл бұрын
You do realise right that "stopping" a horse means to prevent it winning when it could have? At no time in the race did Greyed A ever look like winning and the fact that 7 runners from a field of 12 were pulled up, suggests the ground wasn't very good during this race. The horse was travelling well enough early on when they were not going at racing pace but later made a few jumping errors that caused it to drop back, and the fact that Richard Johnson pulled it up rather than giving it a hard race to still finish well beaten, meant it was able to win its very next race. The horse was 3/1f in this race and 15/8 2nd fav next time when it won, so it's not even as if they got a better price to have a gamble on the next time it ran. I also find it quite amusing that anyone would think Richard Johnson would wait 20 or so years to finally be crowned Champion Jockey and then suddenly start stopping horses!
@davidmarr6778
@davidmarr6778 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Scanlon Brilliant response.
@malcolmnicholas5931
@malcolmnicholas5931 10 ай бұрын
A horse who wasn't happy. A good jockey looks after a horse. A disgruntled punter, who has little idea, will complain.
@Sunburst75
@Sunburst75 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Johnson is not bent, which makes this video meaningless.
@daviddillingham7388
@daviddillingham7388 3 жыл бұрын
the horse is a stayer preferring 3 miles or longer...... it has no pace for shorter
@henryrussell3494
@henryrussell3494 5 жыл бұрын
Just back on big meetings i.e Cheltenham festival steer clear of small weekday meetings
@lorkyd4394
@lorkyd4394 6 жыл бұрын
You obv haven't been watching racing long.. im not denying horses get pulled, but this is not one of those cases clearly.. when a horse is pulled he never gets anywhere near the front, at any stage of the race..
@shaunspadah5790
@shaunspadah5790 6 жыл бұрын
why is the course so narrow and fenced in, loose horses could cause mayhem
@colmancooney9213
@colmancooney9213 6 жыл бұрын
Horse jumped poorly and hadn't the pace to go with the leaders. Dicky did the right thing by pulling up, but I still can see where your coming from. He never urged the horse forward so therefore stewards should have questioned Johnson over the ride given.
@Sunburst75
@Sunburst75 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't bet in this race so can give an impartial opinion. The view that the horse is tiring doesn't add up because at no time does Johnson apply any pressure to it to really find out if it's got anything left, not even 2 or 3 shakes of the reigns. That I'm afraid is very suspect. If it was a lesser known jockey on this horse I think this ride would be seriously investigated (I'm assuming it wasn't). What was the official explanation from the trainer and/or Johnson?
@MrDanallman
@MrDanallman 3 жыл бұрын
Beat fair and square. The horse wasn't jumping cleanly so therefore every time he jumped poorly he lost ground and energy.
@daviemac2653
@daviemac2653 Жыл бұрын
Completely sour grapes, this was the horses 1st attempt at chasing, likes to lead, but us also prone to getting lack lustre in its races and pulling up. Why it was 3/1 fav in this race is the big mystery, Johnson knows more about racing and how a horse feels or even rides, so never rode the hell out of it, as the horse wasn’t on a going day. Next time out at Fontwell with Johnson aboard over further on heavy the horse lead all the way, no abnormal betting patterns, opened up joint favourite drifted a tad and went off 15/8, nothing bothered the horse and allowed it an uncontested lead, unlike this race. It then won its next race at Fontwell, leading all the way again, this time with Twiston-Davies up top. All in all this horse PU 6 times in 22 rules races, so had a tendency to not have its whole mind on the job in hand.
@markholt7952
@markholt7952 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and also depending on time of the season, the race etc the trainer will say look if he doesn't feel right don't kill him to get a place, the horse swallowed very quickly the jockey tried to niggle him back into contention but the horse was done early doors, he seems to have the hump that the jo key didn't destroy a horse that was beat and going back anyway, god I can't believe the no brain punters that y'all through their pockets, or their giros in their pockets
@philsooty5421
@philsooty5421 3 жыл бұрын
Did you lose money on it?
@stephenpope9092
@stephenpope9092 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree, looks dodgy as hell, gets beaten out of sight after looking to be going ok without any encouragement from Johnson, and then miraculously bolts up next time out 😆🤣😂....yeah, that's as straight as Graham Norton 👍
@du8n2
@du8n2 6 жыл бұрын
So, you believe the jockey intentionally 'tanked' the race?
@stuartalexander3
@stuartalexander3 Жыл бұрын
Just shows what little you know about riding in a horse race of any kind.
@carlallison7818
@carlallison7818 4 жыл бұрын
It was pulled up but still trying to run!!!!!! I did it this day as well!!!
@Marjopolo302
@Marjopolo302 6 жыл бұрын
I backed it last week and bolted up...dicky Johnson , he wins when he wants , ducky Johnson, he wins when he wants. Same as Jim Crowley
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Power an in house jockey,, they tell the other jocks to back the fuck off if their trying. How many times do you see up and comers sacked after not riding to orders,, these fuckers are freemasons and can easily make a career if the bloke is willing to play ball. Look how quickly john gosden fucked over adam kirby after holding in his horse in a group 1,, took kirby months to get a decent ride again, and it was only after kirby had a "heart to heart" with gosden 😂,, basically gosden told him you do that again and you wont be riding donkeys on blackpool beach. Its all an in house closed shop for the big boys.
@Marjopolo302
@Marjopolo302 6 жыл бұрын
RebelAgainst TheEstblishment , all I say is , coolmore , and Jamie Spencer.....
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are brainwashed. This is ridiculous. I know jockeys and they are VERY competitive.. I saw a 'pro' jockey tell local jockeys 'stay out of my way' and the local jockeys would reply 'if you can quit choking on my dust, okay'.. you're full of shit and butthurt because you're a shitty gambler. Just stop gambling and this won't bother you so much.
@elastronaute1198
@elastronaute1198 6 жыл бұрын
thats bullshit, just your gamblers mentality telling you that. Gamblers see what they want to see, they don't use logic at all...
@jimdampier7415
@jimdampier7415 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Power 1
@philliputv1876
@philliputv1876 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong there
@jonmowat6563
@jonmowat6563 6 жыл бұрын
It happens all the time across the board in racing, as there's too much money to be made from bookies to Jockeys and Trainers. More than the race itself is worth. So do you not think that a few of them are going to take the backhander, rather than try to win the actual race? I've seen races and dodgy results that you wouldn't believe over the years of watching Horse and Dog racing. Do we all stop gambling? Very rarely and if we do do, we end up going back to the bookies eventually. As long as there's extra money to be made on the side, you'll always have corruption in sport. Racing, is no exception!
@nclark008
@nclark008 6 жыл бұрын
Won next time out doing cartwheels!!
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 6 жыл бұрын
nclark008 yeah i saw it. different type of ride given to it last week 😂
@davewright8206
@davewright8206 6 жыл бұрын
wouldnt the weights fall off if it did cartwheels?
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 6 жыл бұрын
dave wright the weights make fuck all difference 😂 if the horse is there to win itll be trying, if its not there to win itll find all kinds of trouble (flat/all weather), or just be messed about with during the race,, it was never allowed to stride out this day,,, next time out it gets given a proper race ride,, and remember richard johnson was up on it both times, so the novices argument doesnt hold water. Its bent to fuck.
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
you're an imbecile.. he stode out the horse so fast, it was tuckered by the 8th jump.
@thomassmith2227
@thomassmith2227 6 жыл бұрын
If you look at the form of this horse it is clearly a very inconsistent animal. He was pulled up whilst favourite previously under a different jockey. I think you have to accept that betting on this horse is clearly a risky proposition looking at the form figured.
@ademeaden4088
@ademeaden4088 6 жыл бұрын
This is rubbish, anyone can see that he nearly fell at one fence, wasn't running well at all
@TheBarnster1008
@TheBarnster1008 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the horse just didn’t have the stamina
@Ashley19721
@Ashley19721 6 жыл бұрын
A former jockey who i know once told me that betting on horseracing is a mugs game. I still do it for fun but he was right!
@doorhandlesarecircle6450
@doorhandlesarecircle6450 4 жыл бұрын
Your lying right? An actual jockey himself because I am addicted to horse racing/gambling
@Ashley19721
@Ashley19721 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, that's what he said. I'd known him for quite a long time as he was a friend of my dad's. We were at the races watching the horses parade and I asked him which horse he fancied, he replied 'oh I'm not having a bet, it's a mugs game'!
@dean17079026
@dean17079026 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t see a lot wrong there just a tired horse on ground he obviously doesn’t like I backed him that day but I accepted defeat before 4 out
@andypattison1997
@andypattison1997 3 жыл бұрын
Me thinks it’s running to free
@callangraham4614
@callangraham4614 6 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous. The horse won next time out off of a 2lb lower mark in deeper ground over further. What you're seeing here is a horse get outpaced in the middle part of the race and a jockey understanding that fact and being sensible instead of rowing the two ears off it and risking injury by throwing it at fences. It won 28 days later at a shorter price (drifting from 6/4 to 15/8) in a less valuable race under the same jockey. I've no doubt there's corruption in horse racing this certainly isn't an example of it.
@pedroleitao3024
@pedroleitao3024 Жыл бұрын
The horse was fine and faster than the other this is like the government lies after lies he should never race a horse every again
@KP-uh5zh
@KP-uh5zh 2 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing to see here you’re grasping at straws
@Cheshire-mopping
@Cheshire-mopping Жыл бұрын
😂😂 you lost a stack on him then. It weakened end of story. I remember this horse it won it's next two races 😆 he was still running in points until 2021.
@ryanmarsh4055
@ryanmarsh4055 2 жыл бұрын
Pocket talk
@johnobrien8398
@johnobrien8398 6 жыл бұрын
We know this goes on everyday just like to know when the dirtycunts are trying it’s a fucking disgrace
@michaelrudge3927
@michaelrudge3927 6 жыл бұрын
I Dont buy it.....Too obvious to fish as far back as he did
@tonykelly4151
@tonykelly4151 3 жыл бұрын
Pocket talking
@neilhoward7391
@neilhoward7391 2 жыл бұрын
The jockey did his job well you luckless winger
@darrenpotter3488
@darrenpotter3488 Жыл бұрын
Another horse what won next time.out after this video
@markholt7952
@markholt7952 Жыл бұрын
Wtf are you on about?? The horse went out like a light, also just cos you're putting up captions saying he's not making a move when clearly the jockey does get after him a bit, then you have a go at him for not making a move when the horse is detached tailed off?? Oh dear another punter didn't get a run for their free weekly sum £2 bet again
@jcartist835
@jcartist835 Жыл бұрын
Richard Johnson and the Boss Ap Mckoy Was My 2 Favorite Jockey What Happen Hear is nothing Strange Business A Business Hail the Great Richard Johnson I Win some Nice Like Rice Money from Richard and Peter Hobbs Combination Back in a the Days
@deletebilderberg
@deletebilderberg 3 жыл бұрын
So one of the 99% makes a video. 😁🤦‍♂️
@spleeeen4it
@spleeeen4it 6 жыл бұрын
Went lame, guv
@MrWaz2510
@MrWaz2510 5 жыл бұрын
i been watching racing 40 yrs grey ayed was good for few jumps but dont rekon it was pulled no way wasnt good enough more like had zero chance of winning , the horse has no stamina ,jump racing is hard work , evan watching it some days ,i dont think ive ever seen richard johnson pull a horse ,yes lose on a few maybe,ffs mccoys runners to winners record was shocking ,honest seen him first day to last ,gambling wise a no no ,brave 100% or dumb ,fucked if id doit , these jockeys literally risking there life ragging a horse when its had enough ,when there tired they nake erorrs and when that happens jockeys get hurt killed i seen some of best die ,like horses breaks you ,but thers days your pleased for the ones brave enough to riskit like mccoy fucking guts that takes , over years i seen a few cheat but not johnson i dont back him so not being biased either, now the likes of graham bradley he got caught theres videos on him ,that bloke was a cheat ,in with criminals thats why ,were theres money involved theres more scammers than in ghana , whatever race you bet on its a risk esp in jump racing ,i only bet on nh flat races , always do 3in chases and watch hurdlers a few times , i seen best part of 50-000 races easy and can assure you never seen richard johnson cheat on perpose ,not a prayer ,top jockeys who win titles dont and cant afford to cheat, if you was reserve in a team that was in fa cup final would you cheat to get in team so you could play ,maybe you would ,i wouldnt cus it aint the winning its the taking part that counts , has the clever chap who posted this video happen to check if greyed a yed like going ,by daylami ,need bogging going or very soft -heavy probly reason it ran so poor
@ThePd1970
@ThePd1970 6 жыл бұрын
talking outs your pocket
@danbrown67
@danbrown67 6 жыл бұрын
So you lost a bet - get over it!
@TheBarnster1008
@TheBarnster1008 6 жыл бұрын
Horse racing is all bent anyway pal, save your money
@lainebuckingham522
@lainebuckingham522 6 жыл бұрын
And he only got put up extra 4 furlongs and made all the time after lol sooo fixed
@wowtanzauk1970
@wowtanzauk1970 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvester de Souza does this all the time I will not put money on a race he is in anymore and to all those who say oh it’s the horses health etc etc. It isn’t at all
@robertsontheweegie9491
@robertsontheweegie9491 6 жыл бұрын
Horse wasn't jumping well
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 6 жыл бұрын
RobertsonVFX horse was jumping fine. Watch its win nto, it was pulled big time in this replay.
@robertsontheweegie9491
@robertsontheweegie9491 6 жыл бұрын
RebelAgainst TheEstblishment it made a few bum jumps. Clearly hampered it. Can understand why pulled up. The other ones you've posted are more shady. This is just unfortunate
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
incorrect. The horse was jumping fine until it ran out of steam and then it was like 'fuck this' and the jockey knew he would not clear another fence so he pulled off. Simple.. happens all the time.. Try evaluating a kentucky derby or one of the other 2... different race.
@paulthurlow888
@paulthurlow888 Жыл бұрын
You don’t know what your on about mate 😅
@bryngerard4334
@bryngerard4334 6 жыл бұрын
In the early 90's I helped Dave Nevison set up his first Internet site called 'Racing Today'. He had a collaborator (apparently a titled fellow, who wanted to remain anonymous) who used to watch for horses that were being 'tenderly ridden' in the NH races. These were consequently targeted for opportunities for investment at later outings. One memorable horse "Where's the Mexican gone" at 66/1, there were many more. The fact that this horse (Greyed-A) won the next time out could be an indication of this but it could just have been having a bad day. Each horse has a unique personality and with some, you cannot force them to perform, they rebel and it can be difficult for the trainer to restore the animal if this is done. It is the ones that have not been heard of before that are the ones to watch for and this was always done early in the NH season, and you have to at the race to see its performance and pre race inspection in the paddock. I am reminded of one of Nevison's own horses 'Young Frederick, (trained by Karl Burke)' that ran on the all-weather and was charging home (at 33/1) when the jockey seemed to pull the horse right and it lost by a nose. Nevison was livid but couldn't prove a thing. Next time out Young Frederick was 4/1 in a night race at Wolverhampton and performed miserably. It was discovered that he had a hairline fracture in the leg that had been sustained in the previous race (I think it was Southwell). There is no doubt in my mind that corruption exists in Horse Racing but it is very difficult to prove.
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
This is called 'gray racing' at least around here.. it's not necessarily frowned upon but it is a dirty way of predicting place. The horses don't like some tracks. Some like to run on dirt but not grass, etc.. sometimes it's just them throwing an attitude that day.. bad mood.. stomach ache, sore muscles. whatever.. think of the things that make you grumpy without outside influence. Pretty much the same for horses. So on the tracks the horses don't like, they're ridden 'tenderly' usually with a middle of the pack finishing, but the horse did not exert itself very much, so the NEXT race, it will be a little MORE rested than other horses that have been running similar schedules. Next race is MUCH more likely to place.
@brindlewarriormoor4581
@brindlewarriormoor4581 4 жыл бұрын
He never asked the horse for a effort they was all going ok on the bridle he never pushed or whipped it once just let it drift out of shot if the horse was struggling you would of seen it but no eventually comes round the bend pulled up he could of pulled up a lot earlier if the horse was distressed he stopped riding which actually causes the horse to make a mistake
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 4 жыл бұрын
The horse won either next time out or the time after that, was a prep/set up race for something down the line. Horrible bastards.
@orangepower1975
@orangepower1975 20 күн бұрын
@@therebel4332 6+ years later and you still can't admit you're wrong, there was nothing wrong with the race at all, shit happens
@johnmcgoran2381
@johnmcgoran2381 2 жыл бұрын
Horse was beat fair and square was tired armchair jockeys never a fix!!
@leesavage6169
@leesavage6169 6 жыл бұрын
Poor to see I understand that. But it goes on every race every day, without this there wouldn't be any horse racing as owners wouldn't invest (some owners), prize money is horrendous compared to the cost of keeping a horse in training. Way to stop it: change the handicapping system drastically.However this race, dicky maybe felt the horse wasn't itself, meaning something could be wrong internally. He could have seen the horse bleeding. He could have felt something go. Or maybe he knew the horse had no more to give. There are much clearer evidence than this video.I have horses myself, Italian riviera and beeno
@andrewharman8712
@andrewharman8712 6 жыл бұрын
You'd wanna go back to specsavers if you think he fixed tha race.the last few jumps he didn't jump overly well would of lost a lot of momentum,the horse found nothing off the bridle and the horse hated the ground by the look of it.watch racing day in day out theres no way he fixed the horse just wasn't good enough.me thinks your talking through your pocket pal
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Harman he didnt move a muscle on it and pulled it up entering the home straight 😂 it was schooling in public and was as blatant as youll see.
@andrewharman8712
@andrewharman8712 6 жыл бұрын
RebelAgainst TheEstblishment how much did you loose on it?
@therebel4332
@therebel4332 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Harman 50p ew,, I dont see why i should be out of refresher chew bars because of a cheating wanker tbh,, im going to show more videos like this aswell,, richard johnson is the biggest cheat going.
@andrewharman8712
@andrewharman8712 6 жыл бұрын
RebelAgainst TheEstblishment 50p each way???thats embarrassing I only bet in fiftys that's how u win taking a chance.50p ew that's something owl ones do on grand national day.and u don't really have the right to be going mad wen ur only betting a few pence come back to me wen u loose 2 grand in a day
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
the horse was in pain, you fucking abuser. The horse pulled itself up and i'm sure the rider urged him to continue a couple times.. and when the horse tosses it's head around, you KNOW it's DONE>
@davidbrown9086
@davidbrown9086 6 жыл бұрын
Jockey not to blame the horse slowed itself not the jockey definetly not richards fault not one bit the horse didnt want to go that bit after making mistakes richard johnson didnt get the horse to make the mistakes he was looking after the horses intrest thats why he pulled the thing up to say that he was cheeting the sport here was wrong by the people who backed him on the day and at the racetrack
@stevenbradley8492
@stevenbradley8492 3 жыл бұрын
You are wrong; simple as that.
@oldmanarockin
@oldmanarockin 4 жыл бұрын
you need to learn how to read a book before you try reading a race. That horse was not stopped. if you have a clue how to read form you will see that 2m4f was far to short a distance on soft ground. The horse needed 3m plus on heavy ground to see him at his best. he won his next 2 races over 3 miles plus but at no time was he gambled on. He simply could not go the race pace for a 2 and a half mile race. He is a slow boat and in my opinion the jockey did nothing wrong apart from not give the horse a hard race and save him for an other day. and there is no rules broken looking after a horse's future welfare.
@kepnjem
@kepnjem 6 жыл бұрын
Horses aren't machines. It might have spread a plate or something more serious. The well being of the animal comes first and foremost and is the jockey's responsibility when out on the course. Your opinion simply boils down to ignorance.
@johnmorris2858
@johnmorris2858 3 жыл бұрын
What a ridiculous video.
@khmerdetours6123
@khmerdetours6123 Жыл бұрын
the horse was never going to win, it was gone a long way from finish, do not flog a dead horse,
@ceesmith
@ceesmith 2 жыл бұрын
He was outpaced after making mistakes. He's won twice since then when moved up in trip, over 25.5 and 26f. Stop doing silly videos cause you're out of pocket and stop gambling if this is where it takes you.
@TheBdylan23
@TheBdylan23 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you are talking about, your comments are embarrassing.
@ericlam38
@ericlam38 2 жыл бұрын
rubbish jockey, trainer, all cheating.
@kajamix
@kajamix 5 жыл бұрын
You 'wasted your time making this video which does n't prove anything. In this sport it's the betting companies who are robbing you and you have n't a clue. The whatever jockey-trainer antics are of second order importance.
@malcs0
@malcs0 6 жыл бұрын
I can only agree with other comments on here. You lost money and blame a fine jockey who looked after a horse. Your claim is ridiculous, and, possibly tantamount to defamation to the character of Richard Johnson. Sorry to sound off like that, but people who publish such things obviously have no idea about the consequences of their actions. Thank you for your time...
@andykayll1414
@andykayll1414 6 жыл бұрын
Horse racing is the most cruet industry. dont no why people bother wasting there money. you can never win.
@deiselden
@deiselden 6 жыл бұрын
every sport is fixed.in horse racing its easier because there are lots of possibilities.as to this race who knows.how do you think England won the world cup in 66,it was nt skill.russia will probably win the next world cup.cricket,cycling,darts,snooker its all fixed.if theres a gamble there s always a fix,get over it an back outsiders.back draws in football,or don't bet but don't moan , jus get real and get in profit.
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
you go ahead and believe that.
@jamesvalentine8738
@jamesvalentine8738 6 жыл бұрын
yet another gambler talking out of his pocket. if you cant take loosing dont gamble....the horse weren't jumping well and was tired so he went easy on him cause he knew he was emptying......only bet what you can afford to lose and stop crying about it
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
BAM, Touche!!! Well done!
@estherortega8048
@estherortega8048 6 жыл бұрын
and that's spelled LOSING.
@MrNonch1
@MrNonch1 6 жыл бұрын
What a complete load of bollocks! You shouldn't be allowed to actually post shit like this! The fact that you lost a few quid is just tough luck- if the stewards had thought there was anything sinister, they would have pulled him in, and gone from there- to suggest he stopped it, was totally ludicrous. Surely if a jockey is going to stop one, he'd finish about 5th or 6th, appearing to be trying throughout, not tailing off where it's visible to everyone! The horse wasn't travelling...simple as.
@stevehardy3680
@stevehardy3680 9 ай бұрын
BIG CLAIMS FROM SOMEBODY WHO LOSES FOR A LIVING I HOPE HE SUES YOU FOR DEFAMATION
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