Joe Brown - London Railway Atlas ( Interview Chat / No.10 )

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Geoff Marshall

Geoff Marshall

24 күн бұрын

Joe Brown is the creator of the superb 'London Rail Atlas', as well as the Birminham Rail Atlas, and the Manchester & Liverpool edition too! I caught up with for an interview/chat, to ask how how he designs something so incredibly detailed, and also his work with 'Journey', an organisation for LGBTQ+ professionals working in the transport sector.
Joe's Rail Atlas is : www.crecy.co.uk/joe-brown
The 'Journey' LGBTQ website : journeylgbtq.wixsite.com/jour...
The S.K.Baker Rail Atlas is also available here: www.amazon.co.uk/Rail-Atlas-G...

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@geofftech2
@geofftech2 22 күн бұрын
Altogether now …. “Droftarts” 😊
@andyt2510
@andyt2510 22 күн бұрын
Notsue!
@fussyboy2000
@fussyboy2000 22 күн бұрын
krapy rub snif
@Eddyspeeder
@Eddyspeeder 21 күн бұрын
Ward leroc
@T_C_C_C
@T_C_C_C 21 күн бұрын
Are you gonna ride the 759 bus?
@grantwest656
@grantwest656 22 күн бұрын
Joe was my manager on the Bakerloo and he's a really, really nice guy. Never heard a bad word said about him.
@WordNerd1971
@WordNerd1971 22 күн бұрын
Great interview. Joe is so interesting. I could listen to hours of you chatting together!
@martynbrailsford3943
@martynbrailsford3943 22 күн бұрын
Excellent Interview! Thanks Geoff & Joe for the plug! Martyn - editor of the "Quail" maps.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
Perhaps you could ask Geoff to correct the omission of a link to your site in the description section. Usually fastidious to a fault, other links are listed but I looked for Quail to no avail.
@robertbutlin3708
@robertbutlin3708 22 күн бұрын
I do enjoy an occasional bit of micro-gricing at the Quail level.
@patbyers9662
@patbyers9662 22 күн бұрын
Making being a nerd, cool. Great interview. Thank you Geoff and Joe :)
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 16 күн бұрын
Yet another phenomenal 'interview' (aka Choo-choo chat!) Joe Brown is an absolute legend, anyone who hasn't seen his atlases are mising out!
@rikufryderyk
@rikufryderyk 22 күн бұрын
I visited the palestra building recently, how lucky you had the occasion to go quite high upstairs! Will listen to the 'podcast' this evening :)
@PamelaBane
@PamelaBane 22 күн бұрын
This was such an interesting conversation, I love maps and have a Baker book on the shelf cannot beat a physical handling of an atlas, proud to be a cartophile!. Thanks Geoff.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 22 күн бұрын
Geoff sure knows how to set up a good podcast/chatty interview episode. Also, he’s at TfL HQ so new Achievement Unlocked.
@70goldie24
@70goldie24 22 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to ‘pink’ up my new Baker (hopefully at Christmas). Joe you are a star and your work is outstanding.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
Now there's a surprise. I had assumed that the author (?) of my favourite Atlas (after the Times one of the world) would be a man of a certain age, crackling with dusty experience, seeing how engaging and deftly detailed it is. Not a bit of it. Merci Monsieur and here's to future fantastic feats of fact furnishing. One more bit of sunshine blowing where the sun don't shine: Only once in my life have I had the thrill of having so many answers all at once to questions I've had poking around in my head for decades. Where does that go? type of thing. Thank you, thank you JB.
@DistrictDriver
@DistrictDriver 22 күн бұрын
Ah, it's nice to see Joe again! He was one of my DMT's at Earl's Court!
@marksaddler
@marksaddler 22 күн бұрын
We need the unedited backwards tube stations as a series of shorts 👍
@matthewsexton9486
@matthewsexton9486 12 күн бұрын
An amazing interview!! Many thanks to you both!
@gregmichael8473
@gregmichael8473 10 күн бұрын
Just ordered two of Joe's atlases. Can't wait to get them to add to my collection, which includes Quail & Baker. The detail looks amazing from the glimpses in the video, with the addition of the historical information a bonus.
@joc6516
@joc6516 22 күн бұрын
Fantastic interview. I have all of the atlas regions, several from London, the Birmingham one and Liverpool/Manchester. My favourite is the Liverpool/Manchester one as it includes all the crazy old tram lines which made up the largest combined network in the UK. It's amazing to see what we lost up there. London also got rid of theirs, but at least they had the tube to fall back on. It's also sad to see how many railway lines existed compared to today. My hope is for a Leeds/Bradford/Sheffield one as well. That would be incredible, then a Glasgow/Edinburgh. These are easily the best rail maps of any cities in the world. Never seen anything close anywhere else. Joe Brown has done a magnificent job here.
@a11oge
@a11oge 22 күн бұрын
My, what fun you had. Thanks for sharing. 🖖
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 22 күн бұрын
I have a copy of the London Atlas - a wonderful browse from time to time. Well worth a real paper edition on the proverbial coffee table
@guillaumemaurice3503
@guillaumemaurice3503 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this Geoff; it was a very interesting and fascinating video. ❤
@Anonymoususer_2023
@Anonymoususer_2023 20 күн бұрын
I do like interviews like this one. Very good interview. Please do more of these if you could. 😁
@GreatWesternTransportation
@GreatWesternTransportation 22 күн бұрын
Excellent interview Geoff, keep it up
@michaelvoyzey1099
@michaelvoyzey1099 21 күн бұрын
Hi Geoff, Great video as always I have just ordered a copy of his London Atlas really interesting insight as always
@user-mf2dj8rn9f
@user-mf2dj8rn9f 21 күн бұрын
Great video and interview. I purchased the book before the video ended.
@gustavomonteiro302
@gustavomonteiro302 22 күн бұрын
Bought his book in my trip to London last march at the Transport Museum. Glad to see him on Geoff's channel.
@PaulInPorirua
@PaulInPorirua 22 күн бұрын
That door slam at 4:00 is every overheard conversation about trains I have ever had.
@elainemulberryrat5300
@elainemulberryrat5300 22 күн бұрын
Funny interview Geoff. Joe comes across as a really nice guy and the camera obviously loves him😅 nice informal chatty style info.
@paulgodwin604
@paulgodwin604 20 күн бұрын
What a fun and informative video. You two make a good double act. Geoff, you asked Joe if people at work us3 his maps. For me, yes I did - when working for TfL I used it extensively to work out where to build new stabling sidings for LUL S Stock to facilitate removal from Lillie Bridge to enable the redevelopment of the site.
@user-lw5qj9hd4w
@user-lw5qj9hd4w 22 күн бұрын
So I've bookmarked the crecy page to buy in August, thanks guys! 😊
@BarneyLeith
@BarneyLeith 22 күн бұрын
I love Joe's London atlas! And I have a rather ancient copy of the Baker atlas.
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 22 күн бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for that!
@mrowl-the-dsm1304
@mrowl-the-dsm1304 22 күн бұрын
Really good this, very impressed and very much enjoyed it
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent 22 күн бұрын
Brilliant video sir.
@tardismole
@tardismole 20 күн бұрын
I've not heard of that drawing programme. Would have been very useful back when I was writing my book in 2015. I hand drew my map in paint (really don't do that at home). Incidentally, that brought me to Geoff Marshall's channel and I've been here ever since.
@stevehotspur
@stevehotspur 16 күн бұрын
Fabulous Sunday evening viewing. Brilliant
@iandraper8554
@iandraper8554 22 күн бұрын
In the 70's I picked up a fold out map of all the London Bus routes. Love atlases if you don't have one try and track one down
@robinjones6999
@robinjones6999 22 күн бұрын
Brilliant, superb, wonderful _ ive got to order one
@deltic1964
@deltic1964 19 күн бұрын
Great Interview Geoff
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 22 күн бұрын
Great video Geoff, I do love Joe Brown's books. Do have a copy of London, Birmingham & West Midlands and Liverpool and Manchester books
@graemehenderson585
@graemehenderson585 18 күн бұрын
Fabulous atlas. I also use Corel Draw to draw maps and recreate the signal diagrams in signal boxes.
@roundhouses
@roundhouses 22 күн бұрын
I remember going into the school library and tracing out all the railways in the UK. That got me into travelling by train around the country once I left school and had an income. I have a friend who since retirement has been drawing up the track similar (but more diagamatic) to Joes book but for the whole of the country showing all tracks up to the mid 1960's including closed lines.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
A friend..? Go on admit it, it's you isn't it‽ No matter, I rejoice in the knowledge that someone's taken on this task. Don't forget to save it at the end of each monk~like draughting and more power to thine elbow!
@roundhouses
@roundhouses 22 күн бұрын
@@JP_TaVeryMuch I wish it was me but just dont have the time with all my other interests. He is a civil engineer so is very used to drawing.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
@@roundhouses Well the very best of luck to him. What a project!
@RallyingSightsSounds
@RallyingSightsSounds 22 күн бұрын
I've got the three latest books and the two posters (London and Birmingham) from Modern Railways mag, they're awesome. I look forward to the Yorkshire atlas that is supposedly coming next, but I'd love to see South Wales and the Scottish Central belt in future. Also, it'd be great if you could purchase them in poster format of different sizes, then I could get them without the fold from the magazines!
@rayhenwood3833
@rayhenwood3833 22 күн бұрын
I invested in a copy Dec 23. Love the detail.
@andyt2510
@andyt2510 22 күн бұрын
I've got his West Midlands version of this atlas - got it as a Christmas present. It's a good read!
@andyt2510
@andyt2510 22 күн бұрын
PS - those West Midlands Metro extensions are correct
@philipperry1304
@philipperry1304 22 күн бұрын
Bloody brilliant cheers
@kaliou6645
@kaliou6645 22 күн бұрын
🩵🚂Excellent chat Geoff, I'm hoping for a Podcast Version Launch of your future interviews
@philipperry1304
@philipperry1304 22 күн бұрын
That be so cool. I'm a pod nerd well 1😂 Rockonteurs
@marksaddler
@marksaddler 22 күн бұрын
Geoffs Rode Wireless mic is giving me the fear, I hope it holds on for the whole episode
@kerryschofield7744
@kerryschofield7744 21 күн бұрын
Decades ago, the HEX trains needed wheel turning. There was some ridiculously complicated move required to get it to a wheel lathe. Joe’s maps may have been needed!!
@Bsavery17
@Bsavery17 22 күн бұрын
Two legends from the tube, thought I knew joe from somewhere
@johnstilljohn3181
@johnstilljohn3181 22 күн бұрын
Ooooh i just love maps...! Off to buy the book......
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
You won't be able to put it down!
@ChrisGBusby
@ChrisGBusby 22 күн бұрын
Ooooh - all ordered :)
@michellebell5092
@michellebell5092 22 күн бұрын
I’m sure I had the first edition. I’ve already added edition 6 onto my Waterstones app wish list
@garydoc
@garydoc 21 күн бұрын
Hi Geoff. Fabulous interview and loads of very useful info soaked up! The video prompted me to look out a 1935 Philips’ Map of LNER, LMS, GW & SR lines in London and district. I have managed to copy this and wondered if it would be of use to use and/or Joe. Can’t send on here, do you have a link to send stuff to you? Cheers! Gary
@joeymandrews
@joeymandrews 22 күн бұрын
Anybody remember when Geoff and Joe both starred in episodes of 'The Tube' back in 2002?!?!
@joebrown7817
@joebrown7817 22 күн бұрын
Trying to keep that quiet… I’ve even grown a beard as a disguise since 😉😂
@mrcogginsgarage7062
@mrcogginsgarage7062 22 күн бұрын
Suits you sir.
@RandomHuman4022
@RandomHuman4022 22 күн бұрын
I'll be working at the Palestra when I start my graduate role this September, I'm hoping to get a peak inside the control room!
@hughacollins1
@hughacollins1 22 күн бұрын
peek (shome mishtake shurely - ed.)
@RandomHuman4022
@RandomHuman4022 22 күн бұрын
@@hughacollins1 You're the 94th person to point this out. I imagine you'd go outside more, but you're too busy watching Geoff Marshall videos?
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
9:49 You said it! "... and then you start to get a bit obsessive." Perfect timing mein host! I was right on the point of boiling over in frustration at the last 2½ minutes of what would be on the cutting room floor IMHO. Especially as Joe had gone down the track of explaining why & what only to be 07:07 hauled away to another line by our host. Colouring in is not ever going to be good enough to trump Joe Brown's Atlas's _raison d'être_ in anyone's book is it‽ As I'm so charged that I've paused the video to rant away here, I really hope that he's able to take us down several secret sidings sans interruption in the rest of this gem.
@nathanwinter863
@nathanwinter863 20 күн бұрын
Does anyone know if there is a online map or a book thats like a checklist book for london stations/uk stations?
@ellenthalianellen7043
@ellenthalianellen7043 21 күн бұрын
,Are you from London? As a big train enthusiast I'd love to meet you and maybe you know some nice spots in the city to spot trains? Best regards, Kimi
@ellenthalianellen7043
@ellenthalianellen7043 21 күн бұрын
hiiii
@smithmini2
@smithmini2 8 күн бұрын
One bit missing. The reversing siding that was at Greenford Central line station upto about 1960 until it was moves further west to Northolt.
@TomRyanElliott
@TomRyanElliott 22 күн бұрын
Another fantastic discussion. It will be great to see if TFL continues doing things this month with it being the Disability Pride Month. Would love to capture a time lapse from up there with the tube going past
@alanclarke4646
@alanclarke4646 21 күн бұрын
Hi Geoff. The link to the Baker map seems to be broken.
@jgodfrey546
@jgodfrey546 22 күн бұрын
Most interesting, Geoff! Amazon claims the Baker atlas link is incorrect, though...
@FotoCatch
@FotoCatch 21 күн бұрын
Hi Geoff! Do you know how to get by local bus from Stansted airport to Oxford, i got only Arrivals, but way make me three buses and 6 hours total for the road
@TheRailArchive-p1z
@TheRailArchive-p1z 16 күн бұрын
So, can we expect an on line version with a GPS overlay to show where you are? I've been trying to get Matthew Bromley to do it for his Railmap On-Line site.
@Xoron
@Xoron 22 күн бұрын
Geoff's mic was holding on for dear life there.
@tuppb002
@tuppb002 22 күн бұрын
been on that roof. did work experience at tfl southwark office called palestra
@EngineerLewis
@EngineerLewis 22 күн бұрын
CorelDraw was my goto software for graphics for the same reason as Joe mentioned CMYK! 🤣
@apuldram
@apuldram 22 күн бұрын
Will the “Lancashire” book be put on-print? I have the Modern Railways Liverpool extract but that’s all ☹️
@joebrown7817
@joebrown7817 21 күн бұрын
Yes after ‘Baker’ I think revising Liverpool & Manchester will be next, so hopefully 2025 publication
@apuldram
@apuldram 17 күн бұрын
@@joebrown7817 check out Pontefract/Knottingley Baker’s all messed up there. I’m sure you’re on it…😁
@svenlakemeier
@svenlakemeier 13 күн бұрын
The separate tracks panned hard left and hard right made the listen a little exhausting. The content itself was very interesting.
@traincrew5746
@traincrew5746 22 күн бұрын
There's a mysterious door in Blackfriars Station that has a lot of rather lovely mapping and video experience behind it...
@beachman8106
@beachman8106 19 күн бұрын
Very interesting video. Definitely prefer landscape format. Video time preference is 10 to 20 minutes. For new topics maybe investigate European rail networks. 👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️ from 🇦🇺
@GoranNewsum
@GoranNewsum 21 күн бұрын
Railway magazine centrefolds 😉😅
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 22 күн бұрын
2:49 Both of you are matching your freak 🔥
@michaelholdsworth
@michaelholdsworth 19 күн бұрын
I'm waiting for the day someone designs an app to mark off tracks and rail lines. Save me re-tracing a map whenever it updates!
@k6usy
@k6usy 15 күн бұрын
Listening to this with headphones… you need to mono your audio with a setup like this. One mic is on the left channel and the other mic is on the right channel.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 22 күн бұрын
Very interesting with great Views & new words - 'Microgrissing'??? 🤔😊🚂🚂🚂
@LifeSizeTeddyBear
@LifeSizeTeddyBear 22 күн бұрын
I believe it is "microgricing" or "micro gricing". I found some usages of it on the RailUKForums website.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 22 күн бұрын
@@LifeSizeTeddyBear Oh ok - Thank you 🤔🚂🚂🚂
@Thornaby37
@Thornaby37 17 күн бұрын
The term "microgricing" also appears a lot in Branch Line News (a twice monthly journal for Branch Line Society members). It refers to travelling over bits of track which don't normally have passenger services
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 16 күн бұрын
@@Thornaby37 C😎😎l 😉🚂🚂🚂
@IndaloMan
@IndaloMan 22 күн бұрын
You would think that after all these years Geoff would have worked out that if his mic is pointing upwards the sound quality is better.... 😂
@OstrogothRome
@OstrogothRome 19 күн бұрын
Wow, micro-gricing, you can't get much geekier than that. Come on Joe, how about an atlas of every bus stop that has ever existed, or maybe a new book "Walking Britain's Disused Bus Routes". Oh and what about plotting every phone box that ever existed - along with its model and type, K2, K3 etc etc, and monthly usage...... You could be busy for the next 50 years here.
@joebrown7817
@joebrown7817 18 күн бұрын
Just 50?! 🤣 ...I have a day job, you know 😉
@dougjardine8545
@dougjardine8545 18 күн бұрын
Ward LeRoc ---- it's your pr0n-star name now, Geoff!
@axsmth
@axsmth 19 күн бұрын
What's "Birminham Rail"?
@RaskoAndDiscoBeerReview
@RaskoAndDiscoBeerReview 22 күн бұрын
Hey Geoff, I'm wondering if I've got a rare(ish) unofficially official Tfl map you don't have? There's a beer over in elavrireP as a clue for you to find out. Cheers #Disco
@Geogregor747
@Geogregor747 15 күн бұрын
I have the foldout map from the Modern Railways on the wall of the toilet. Look at it a few times a day 😉
@railmaps8141
@railmaps8141 16 күн бұрын
I use Corel Draw!😁
@LiveInConcertUK
@LiveInConcertUK 21 күн бұрын
You should definitely interview Viola Snow the TikTok husky next. She’ll tell you which are the most (and least) dog-friendly tube lines and share her top tips for canine travellers. 🐕
@peterwoolliams1283
@peterwoolliams1283 18 күн бұрын
Why didn’t know this map existed?!
@mikewilliamson7246
@mikewilliamson7246 22 күн бұрын
Just to say as an admiring follower. Geoff does sometimes ALMOST overwhelm his interviewee, frequently chipping in with a gushing jokey comment that he has just thought of, whilst the interviewee is trying to explain something in answer to Geoff's previous question. Perhaps just calm down a touch?
@Thornaby37
@Thornaby37 17 күн бұрын
Still got the first SK Baker atlas I bought almost 40 years ago, and have had most editions since then Probably best not say Finsbury Park spelt backwards 😅
@apc108
@apc108 20 күн бұрын
What a nice guy. He's cool and un-flappable. I guess you have to be when taking on such enormous tasks. Lovely conversation.
@eastlancsesteem
@eastlancsesteem 22 күн бұрын
I wish Sodor Island was real.
@tremensdelirious
@tremensdelirious 22 күн бұрын
A little inpatient when he was trying to tell you his history. Interruptions when he’s talking about tracing from books. I wanted to listen 😮
@tonyjones9442
@tonyjones9442 22 күн бұрын
Yes. I thought too. It was an interesting insight and it got cut short. A bit rude of Geoff really.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 22 күн бұрын
​@@tonyjones9442 Hear hear. You could say that that's why we love him. Geoff's head is so full of information that he seemingly can't stop it spilling over; common sense, decency, respect and politesse be damned! No situation or subject, no seniority of interviewee, nor really enlightening answer to the question we've all been waiting for... can stop the tsunami. Your very point is a constant in the comment threads of his videos, albeit quietly bubbling under. The exact opposite of this unfortunate habit. Imagine what heights of UndergrounD understanding could be reached if our over enthusiastic host had a word with himself about it!
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 22 күн бұрын
Chill out
@beerdo231
@beerdo231 22 күн бұрын
What happened to calling it Choo Choo Chat? I liked that name.
@christophersanton
@christophersanton 6 күн бұрын
I loved CorelDraw and was disappointed when the NHS standardised on Microsoft products.
@natts
@natts 22 күн бұрын
Hey Geoff, the Amazon link in the description is broken?
@thepoleisred5899
@thepoleisred5899 9 күн бұрын
"So, you don't bash yourself?" 😲
@dccavalier
@dccavalier 7 күн бұрын
OK Geoff, it’s been killing me for a few years now so I’m just gonna ask… Where is Vicki? Why doesn’t she appear on any of your YT pods and does she have her own channel? Thanks….
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 5 күн бұрын
We're no longer together, since 2021. Three years ago !! I did write a community post about it a while back, but i've since deleted that.
@dccavalier
@dccavalier 5 күн бұрын
@@geofftech2 wish there was a way to privately share my commiserations about this. You two are partly, mainly, my reaon for becoming a so called railfan. Watched every episode of All The Stations. When I came to England in 2018 to visit much of my travel in trains was based on info I got from your videos. What’s done is done so all the best to both of you.
@LasseGreiner
@LasseGreiner 22 күн бұрын
IMHO Corel draw is much better and not ridiculously priced as Adobe 😮
@NigelDraycott
@NigelDraycott 16 күн бұрын
Try doing this as a KZfaq short or Tiktok.....
@capturedlondon
@capturedlondon 21 күн бұрын
Sorry to be ‘that guy’ but I guessed your location based purely on the building behind you and its angle ….my wife says I’m on the scale, but I don’t care 😂
@dees3179
@dees3179 17 күн бұрын
I reckon we mostly are, there will be no judgement here. Your wife is the minority in this community.
@eddisstreet
@eddisstreet 22 күн бұрын
If tfl HQ is in Southwark, what's at 55 Broadway these days?
@marcelwiszowaty1751
@marcelwiszowaty1751 22 күн бұрын
I was going to say it is being refurbished for flats... but I just double-checked. That proposal was dropped and it's now being redeveloped as a hotel.
@joebrown7817
@joebrown7817 21 күн бұрын
Yes it’s rightly so heavily listed inside & outside that it’s a challenge to convert to a new use
@howardkey1639
@howardkey1639 22 күн бұрын
Ward Leroc 😊
@thomasedwards5700
@thomasedwards5700 22 күн бұрын
I can see Alll The Tracks on its way!😂
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