breakit46 Ali is my favorite and Calzaghe

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Mark Mywords it's Britian once again paving the way for boxing, if we allow boxers to get seriously hurt over an over they endu p with serious brain injuries or premature parkisons, the sooner we stop a one sided fight the better. I know "but what if he comes back" well if he was THAT great he'd never have to take such a beating really... I will say this fight was stopped far to early, it robbed joe of a legit knockout.

Mark Mywords fully agree. There was no possibility of Manfredo winning this fight. Once that becomes clear, the ref should intervene if he isn’t defending himself appropriately. Even in the rope a dope vs Foreman, Ali would at least lean back and look at the punches in order to evade them, and would throw back! Here Manfredo was just closing his eyes and hoping for the best, offering nothing in return. Safety of the fighters was rightly held as the #1 priority here.

Personally I would rather see the ref stop the fight early rather then see a fighter get hurt bad, You can't come back from a bad call but you can't come back from death/serious injury. It's not good for the sport and most of all it's even worse for the fighters who have to live after the fight.

YOU ARE RIGHT THE REFEREE WHO REF EMILE GRIFFIN AND BENNY KID PARET SHOULD HAVE BEEN CRIMINALLY CHARGED...BENNY WAS MURDERED WATCH THAT ONE WHAT A SAD FIGHT

I know you like to call it ass whoopin. but what the ref saved him from was that damage to the blood-vessels in and around the brain that comes from having your head knocked in all directions hard and repeatedly.

Did you see the boxer complain, he was glad to be out of there

@@ianrutherford878 You're not telling me anything I don't already know about the fight game kid. I've been deep into boxing for over 50 yrs now. And did I not say: "THE REF DID MANFREDO A HUGE FAVOR"? YES, I DID. What the fuck do ya think that means? ANSWER: THE REF SAVED MANFREDO FROM GETTING BAD HURT. Damn, you kids THINK "you are educating" a total stranger. Boy, I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.

lol, probably added 30 days to the end of his life. That was going to be ugly as hell, before the inevitable knockout. Righteous stoppage. He wasn't throwing at all, and just getting a boxing lesson. Can someone let their opponent throw like 30 or more punches in a row, and not answer back?

Neilos 1965 Ali would have lost to Foreman if you were the ref

@@jackcarterog001 look what happened to Ali later in life

Calazghe was forced fight manfredo in order to get the HBO contract and was promised a fight with jermaine Taylor. Calzaghe had to give up fighting his mandatory Robert Stieglitz as well and drop the IBF title. Taylor when pulled out when it was time to sign.

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He won the TV show The Contender.

@@dontaskme7004 no he didn’t he came second. Sergio mora won.

@The Stormblooper you would expect him too considering he was a higher weight class and an all time great and the contender was a show about prospects and journeymen.

Idiot. Here’s two top 50 lists by educated boxing analyst and Calzaghes not in either one .. much less the “greatest”. You’d think if he’s the greatest he’d al least crack the to 50 www.liveabout.com/greatest-boxers-of-all-time-424093 www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1436191-the-top-50-pound-for-pound-boxers-of-all-time.amp.html

@@checkandbalance2903 Joe obviously isn't the greatest boxer ever but he had one of the greatest careers ever. How many on that list were undefeated world champions at 2 different weights? How many on that list retired undefeated? how many didn't lose a fight for 19 years? How many were continuous world champions for 11 years ? how many made 20 successful defences ? To save you the bother of checking i will tell you, none.

Manfredos own trainer said he would have been knocked out if the ref didn’t save him

It seemed rather premature but it's not a 'home town stoppage' because that's suggesting that it was stopped to aid the home fighter, and I don't think many people could be so deluded as to think that. It was stopped because the referee was seeing a hopelessly out of his depth fighter doing virtually nothing but a turtle impersonation. Perhaps the premature roars of the crowd everytime Manfredo was near the ropes influenced the referee into thinking the situation was more dramatic than it was, maybe also the memory of Lacy getting hammered a bit too long was on his mind, I don't know. The behaviour of refs in Britain became considerably more 'better safe than sorry' after tragic results in the same weight division in the early 90s.

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COACH DEE unfortunately calzaghe had to slap instead of sitting down on his punches like he did when he was younger joe used to ko people stiff when he was younger but his hands got destroyed over the years he even had to slap the heavy bag towards the end of his career it's a shame he could of beaten Floyd to the 50-0

One may call the last few punches slaps, but that's just down to the way Manfredo was ducking and weaving his head, and Joe's was automatically throwing his hands at the target which from that odd angle made the punches awkward and look 'slappy'. If you mean his normal punches were slaps, well...why did they immediately make Manfredo back off and get his guard up and almost entirely stop firing back, and why is it so clear in the slo mo replay that Manfredo's guard is being battered open by Calzaghe's 'slaps'? He was rather heavy handed, so even his salvos of light shots could be decently hard. Whenever he landed in this fight the effect on Manfredo was visible, and he was rocking his head back and breaking his guard open with those supposedly weak punches.

yeah sometimes I think that,sometimes I don't,it only takes one punch too many,but thank fuck t was stopped,otherwise the poor fucker could be a cabbage

HE WAS AN AMATURE,SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN IN WTH ANY PROFESSIONAL BOXER

The ref new it was a miss match and he didn't want the kid getting hurt. I think the ref could of left it 5 seconds more but that's about it.

YEAH I THINK YOUR RIGHT

Johnathan Casey how true

because some of them are small minded arrogant pricks who have never stepped in the ring..

The commentary was laughable HBO bias again."It was stopped too early as Manfredo might have waited for Calzaghe to be gassed" Do me a favour.He would have got that round after round for the next 3 rds if he didnt get knocked out.

He had to take this stupid fight for HBO to cover it and give him a shot at better opponents.

@@bencarlson8324 ok. kinda weird for a 34 year old man who has had a supposed title for 8 years to need international exposure by fighting a guy off a tv show - but as you say. Hadnt he just dropped a belt for this tv show guy?

Another round of the same and he'd either have stuck in his turtle shell or come out of it and taken cleaner shots. He wasn't showing signs of injury but he was showing signs of being out of his league by a country mile; the covering up looked like a last resort of someone who had realised they couldn't compete rather than a clever tactic (if he really thought he could make Calzaghe punch himself out then he was delusional, because he would no doubt have seen some footage of previous Calzaghe fights and without doing something to make it a rough fight for Calzaghe or making him miss a lot slowing down wasn't going to happen) and under the rules you have to be protecting yourself and fighting back. He offered one modest punch near the end before going back into his shell as Calzaghe started raining the shots in. It would have been more entertaining for fans to see a longer fight though.

@Ian Murray manfredo was a tv show competitor not a boxer. why was he used for a wbo defence? anither joe C soft touch again.

zaytony maybe you would like to get slapped by him

@Zaytony: The last few weren't landing as Manfredo began ducking his head at/slightly below waist level- he did this because the several previous shots were landing, albeit mainly on his gloves, and despite his gloves being clamped to his head Manfredo's head was actually being buffetted quite a bit by those shots, so they obviously had a fair amount of power. The whole round had seen Manfredo becoming progressively less effective at even avoiding shots, to the point that he hadn't tried to fire back for some time and had only been able to try and keep his guard up as much as possible and get pushed back by Calzaghe's advance. Sure he wasn't on the verge of being knocked out, but the evidence of the previous round and the third up to that point made it clear that the fight wasn't a contest any longer, and Manfredo already seemed to have run out of ideas during the second of how to stop Calzaghe simply using him as target practice. That said, I concede that Manfredo wasn't severely hurt, just battered and out of his depth, and the pure spectator part of me wishes it had been in America where perhaps more consideration would have been given to giving Manfredo every chance to shine and where, perhaps, there is not such a strong culture of stepping in when a fight has become very one sided or a fighter is hurt- in other words, the fight would surely have been allowed to go on far longer and we may have seen much greater drama and excitement, and either a convincing KO or an uncontentious stoppage. But to go by the rules and ideals of the sport, one could argue that the ref was right to stop it, because it hadn't looked like a true contest since early in the second round and despite what the crowd often wants to see, if it isn't a contest then it shouldn't be happening.

What fight were YOU watching? The fighter was being hurt, why else would he cover up and fail to retaliate? He took around 10 punches to the head, believe me ALL pro boxers know how to punch. Slaps are what girls do, not REAL CHAMPION Men boxers.

Stephen Dunn (count how many punches landed on Mandredo, compared to calzaghe within 2 mins, he landed 2 compared to 50)

Wasn't throwing punches either ....hence the stoppage.

Dave Roberts I agree with you on the stoppage. Its a shame, but Peter stood no chance against Calzaghe. Joe would have just bombarded him all night like that.

I'm a massive fan of JC, but this fight shouldnt have been stopped there.

Maybe he wasn't hurt, but, should he be subjected to harsher punishment until he was really hurt?.... Are you sick or something?. The ref did the kid a favour, making it pos. for him to fight again, instead of being brain damaged by repeated punishment.

Ehh, it is very easy to say that it is the quality of opponent that marks his career. He fought the best people he could find for at least 26 of his fights during a stagnant era. 52/4, 48/4, 39/0, 26/3, 20/1, 21/0, 24/1, 45/1, 23/3, 18/1, 25/2, 39/4, 21/1, 37/8, 29/2, 30/0, 26/2, 20/1, 22/1, 23/2, 26/1, 58/8, 14/1, 45/2, 45/2, 12/0

His quality of opponents does Mark his career. Those records mean nothing. They were not established top class operators. Calzaghes over all opponents win percentage is 70 percent while Wards is 89 percent.

***** NOBODY! knew what Emanual did, he was a true hero of the sport, he was the Alber einstain of Boxing, 31 wins in title files of his boxers, just 3 times where his boxers didn't WIN their title fight, though 2 draw and ONE loss. that record not only hadn't been beat.. hasn't been neared. Sorry, I get upset thinking about Mannys passing on.