Smokin' Joe Frazier in his prime was one of the best heavyweights of all time!
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@michaellear69048 ай бұрын
As a man and a fighter Frazier is my favourite. I've never seen him fight a man smaller than himself. Joe is a dead set legend.
@vince11harris8 ай бұрын
He’s a better man than Ali that’s for sure
@richbrake99108 ай бұрын
And down goes Frazier, 1:48
@treasaseoighe90018 ай бұрын
Pure legend greetings from Ireland
@conorkilgallon49448 ай бұрын
You just saw him fight Bob Foster! A super middleweight in today's terms
@michaellear69048 ай бұрын
@conorkilgallon4944 Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that, but as they say, the exception proves the rule. I'll check that fight out.
@iwant2usethis8 ай бұрын
Excellent footage of a little big man, who was as mean and tough as a junk yard dog. Brilliant boxer who knew where to place his punches and tireless in his pursuit of victory. You go Joe Frazier. There will never be another YOU
@nobbytang8 ай бұрын
His intensity and head movement at his peak was amazing…
@paulhenry51748 ай бұрын
I lived about 4 blocks from his home gym in Philly. Germantown and Cambria. Trust me, he was one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. Always had a minute for his fans and community.
@yoojin-oi8ij8 ай бұрын
AMEN !
@nyterpfan8 ай бұрын
No fighter had more heart than "Smokin Joe"--an incredible warrior and one of the all-time greats!!
@michaellear69048 ай бұрын
Absolutely !
@fights13978 ай бұрын
I didn't realise how good he was. That's some solid skills right there. I think he whips all the current heavyweights..
@ryanburston8998 ай бұрын
Ohh yes 100%.
@roberthockett2708 ай бұрын
I fear the sheer height of some of the current champs would be too much for him. Foreman perfected the use of the height and strength advantage over Joe - pushing him off at the shoulders, then hooking big before he can reposition. That's how Oscar almost beat him and how Big George obliterated him twice and fast. My guess is that AJ, Deontay, and Fury, all three much taller even than Foreman, would figure this out too. And all three are strong enough to make it matter. A fun matchup, however, might be Smokin Joe and Dell Boy Chisora.
@fuyu59792 ай бұрын
Awesome boxer Joe Frazier ! Watched his fights in the 1960s n 1970s on TV. Truly a gifted, relentless n devastating puncher. But more importantly a emphatic n compassionate human being. There won't be a boxer like him again! RIP Joe Frazier you've earned it ! Kudos for upload. Peace
@johnstewart97458 ай бұрын
Smokin joe , POSSIBLY THE TOUGHEST FIGHTER EVER, loved watching him 1960s 1970s sadly missed 🇬🇧🦨
@bolajiutube8 ай бұрын
Like many good heavyweights of their era, Smokin' Joe was eclipsed by The Champ. This video brings some measure of justifiable appreciation of Joe Frazier's greatness. Rest well, sir.
@1Maddd2mackxxx8 ай бұрын
I bet you Muhammad Ali rest in peace, champ would tell you if he was alive that Joe Frazier what's his kryptonite in boxing like it was to Superman and rest in peace champ
@beatlejim648 ай бұрын
Without Frazier...Ali would not have been the "Champ"...that's not just me...that's most boxing historians...
@allenbeaulieu70778 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier was incredible. He feared no one, and usually stomped the adversary. Loved the man. I almost jumped out of my skin when he floored Muhammad Ali in the fifteenth, first fight. Relentless warrior.
@Ffeoli10398 ай бұрын
He achieved so much despite how many obstacles he had.
@ryanburston8998 ай бұрын
Smoking joe frazier is my favourite fighter of all time he ali beat in manila but tbey didn't know ali was quitting while joe was arguing with Eddie fuch to let him carry on what a fighter.
@kentbergstrom30206 ай бұрын
"Smoking Joe" was one of the best fighters of all time, a true warrior.
@dexocube8 ай бұрын
The key to Frazier's power is his impeccable punching technique, straight outta Jack Dempsey's playbook. Biggest heart in boxing.
@davidwallace60315 ай бұрын
Loved dempsey's quote" while he was thinking i was punching him"
@nobbytang8 ай бұрын
Magnificent fighter ….
@MattDief8 ай бұрын
As I've heard it said before... "Joe Frazier was a Truth Machine"
@jerryblair41068 ай бұрын
SomkinJoe what a great heavyweight RIP
@thesaltman67058 ай бұрын
Fearless, relentless,and from the golden era of heavy weights
@lime4559 ай бұрын
His fight with quarry is def one of my favs.
@user-bp9xw3ht8s8 ай бұрын
Joe was a legend, Ali talked a lot of shit to Joe, but deep down inside, Ali knew Joe was a beast. Ali always came in top shape for Joe. Great fighter and a hell of a champion.
@user-go7nf4pf6y4 ай бұрын
Great analysis of Smokin' Joe's most unique & underated fighting style. The first time I saw him fight on live TV he was getting up off the mat six times against the much bigger Foreman. I couldn't believe my eyes. Nobody else ever got up more than once from a Big George knockdown. Toughest fighter ever. His first & last fights against Ali were two of the best fights of all time. Even though Ali won two, I thought Joe won more rounds in all three. They may have been even in the ring but Joe was much classier outside of it. My favorite boxer and athlete. I try to live my life like Joe lived and fought... never give up and wear down your opponent or obstacle. Great heart; RIP Champ!
@themudshark11068 ай бұрын
One of my Hero's when I was coming up as a teenager.
@Da_Publick8 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you for this! You're right, his prime was those three years. A fighter with that style has a short ring life.
@benjaminwilliams67503 ай бұрын
I wasn't even born during his prime and reigning days but I grew up to love his boxing skills, charisma, stamina, strength and determination. To further make it worst, all the opponent's he defeated were all bigger and taller in body size than him and he is a type of boxer that keep coming at you like a bee with no intent of retreat until he finally knocks you off your feet .As for me he is the best heavyweight boxer of all time after Muhammad Ali may be debatable because his unbeatable left hook was a death sentence❤😮😢 RIP to my favourite boxer of all time #Smoking Joe Frazer
@stevecvino8 ай бұрын
What a beautiful combo by Quarry at 18:10. Damn that look liked it hurt and Joe took it. Amazing!
@edwarcandy46488 ай бұрын
Ali :Cut em off, cut em off. End of round 14 Thrilla in Manilla. Smokin Joe was not ready to give up but Ali was and Did Not want to come out for round 15, Joe did
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
If his coach didnt get frazier to witdraw match probably Ali would still keep fighting by holding Joe frazier, Frazier was totally blind in 14th raund so I suppose that nothing would be changed
@cjsansoo78 ай бұрын
March 8th, 1971 was the highlight of Frazier's career. Beating and dropping the great Ali. I was fifteen years old and my father took me to see it on closed circuit tv. What a fight. I was Joe Frazier's biggest fan!!! My dream fight....Rocky Marciano vs. Joe Frazier. Who do you think would win???
@andrewcleveland8 ай бұрын
Man one thing for sure it would be a war. You have the only to heavyweights in history who actually got stronger as the fight went on.
@cjsansoo78 ай бұрын
@@andrewcleveland absolutely! They were about the same size with the same mentality in the ring. That would be a classic!!!
@PanchoBotas7 ай бұрын
@@cjsansoo7 Frazier fought around 205 lbs. Marciano fought at 187.
@zeejimi40448 ай бұрын
His willingness to take punches in all probability shortened his life greatly..😢😢😢
@ugaais7 ай бұрын
He loved to 67 the average for the year he was born
@RyanKeriger-qt2pqАй бұрын
My Favorite Boxer of all time!🥊🥊🥇🏆💯
@weejim488 ай бұрын
Can you imagine a fight between Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson ? Both with a similar style and both with dynamite in both hands and both with a Will of iron. 👍👍
@joetrie8 ай бұрын
Fraizer Career record (all fights): 32-4 (not too impressive) Career record real heavyweight fights 200×2 lbs: 13-4 Career record real superheavyweight fights 215×2 lbs: 1-2 Frazier fought 20x against bums: KO'ratio 90% Frazier fought 17x against non-bums (that's very good): KO'ratio 52% and of these 17 ALL were natural cruisers except 2 ( Buster Mathis (win) and Foreman (2x loss) Frazier outweighed his opponents in 21 fights: KO'Ratio 95% (he KO'ed all of them but 1) Frazier was outweighed in 15 fights: KO'ratio 46% (featherfist) Median weight of Frazier's KO'victim: 197 lbs (cruiser) Frazier boxed 9 times against natural heavies (that's good) He scored 4 KOs (featherfist) of which 3 were against bums ·Don Smith (11-7) ·Ron Stander (37-21) ·Mel Turnbow (8-13) and 1 KO (round 11) was against a non-bum ·Buster Mathis (30-4, 61% KO'ratio), a very fat boxer. No wonder Frazier could KO him in the 11th round: It was the first time that Buster went more than 10 rounds and already the previous 10-rounder of Buster was merely a split decision against bum ·Bob Stallings (31-32, 201 lbs). Frazier never fought some of the better boxers of his time like Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, etc Joe Frazier KO'ed 14 opponents within 3 rounds (that's pretty good, considering he had only 37 fights). But it turns out that ALL of them were bums (median career record of these bums 11-23) except for 2 opponents: ·Bob Foster 188 lbs (= cruiser) and ·Dave Zyglewycz 190 lbs (= cruiser) whom tiny Frazier (hold your hat) out-weighed, out-reached and out-talled. Dave Zyglewycz has been called "the worst guy to ever get a title shot" and once you check his wins (ONLY bums, median record 10-16) you will have to agree.
@PanchoBotas7 ай бұрын
@joetrie Who did Tyson beat?
@joetrie7 ай бұрын
@@PanchoBotas Tysons record is public you can go look it up
@fights13976 ай бұрын
Sorry but Frazier would destroy Mike. I am in my early 20s and never watched much of Joe until this video and then I started watching more of his fights. I have no doubt he would handle Mike. Hes coming right at Mike and Mike will understand very quickly that Joe is a beast like he never saw in his life. Joe is underrated because he was out of his prime in the Foreman fights.
@vulkandeathgrip55684 ай бұрын
Frazier and Tyson would have been the best heavyweight fight to see imo ! I know Tyson isn’t very well liked by many but I’ve never seen anyone move like Mike and be like a chunk of iron unfazed in the ring.. Joe and Mike move like small tanks
@martinmolina59222 ай бұрын
We want the second part!!! Excelent video
@patrickbrowne46068 ай бұрын
THIS WAS GREAT! I completely agree that Frazier at his best may have been the greatest heavyweight champion ever..he was certainly ONE of the greatest ever! I subscribed to this channel!
@1962LIBBY7 ай бұрын
As a kid I was in awe of Ali as a boxer and showman. Sadly looking past Joe. Years later I listened to Joe and watched. A terrific human being who came from nothing . A man of character and for a time in boxing the best.
@jamesireland66068 ай бұрын
I loved Joe Frazier for a boxer he was my favorite when I was young and still is
@charlesrazo72469 ай бұрын
in his prime that’s right
@rogerfelin79647 ай бұрын
By watching this type of fight and the tough opponents of this golden era of boxing, you realize what extent Frazier, this Joe Frazier was sacred Monster. None of these public entertainers of today could last 5 rounds against the exterminators of that era. Ooh Joe, but also ooh Jerry! RIP, Big men.
@lordburlap45146 ай бұрын
One of the best!
@MrFchank7 ай бұрын
The 3 fights between Ali and Frasier were the best you could ever see.
@davidgriffiths76969 ай бұрын
Frazier and the double one two, right left right and a big left and down goes Ellis.
@OllyO-gt8pg8 ай бұрын
his anticipation of his opponents attack was amazing.
@user-pz1lw7cc1k3 ай бұрын
Smokin Joe reminds me of Henry Armstrong. Watch both. They're similar. One of the Goats. ❤❤to Smokin Joe
@GarryWalker-de6qv22 күн бұрын
This man was a sharp dresser, a true gentleman, with a heart of a lion and a champion who never gave up. It's absolutely disgusting how his own city puts up a stupid statue of rocky balboa rather than this guy.. His city and those in power should be ashamed of themselves...
@Visiontech8 ай бұрын
Only 51 comments? GREAT VIDEO!!!
@fights13978 ай бұрын
I have to give credit to Jerry Quarry, he fought like a warrior in that fight but Joe was too much. Jimmy Ellis must have the greatest recovery powers of any fighter. How the hell did he get up.
@daviddone73839 ай бұрын
Great channel
@imperator36499 ай бұрын
Excellent video and underrated channel. Appreciate some technical analysis as well. And i think carlos monzon at his best would be interesting
@Joethecatholic2 ай бұрын
Marciano v Frazier now thats a powerful match up
@marcelocoluccimacca15248 ай бұрын
a decent gentleman above being the greatest warrior
@704JOE8 ай бұрын
MY FAVORITE FIGHTER🥊🥊🥊🥊
@standelone16748 ай бұрын
To watch george foreman literally rag doll joe was heartbreaking.RIP Joe we love you man.
@fights13972 ай бұрын
18:44 I totally agree. Isn't it funny how these small guys like frazier and tyson are really in full flow when they have their jab working. It's like they are so much smaller that if they have the timing and rhythm that they are landing their jab then they can land anything. Mike Tyson most important punch in his prime was his jab in my opinion. Maybe the same with Frazier. Or maybe when we see their jab working, its just a sign that they are in their elite mode and can start landing anything because of their high level timing?
@tmanpittman78259 ай бұрын
great fight.
@w900L8 ай бұрын
This version of Frazier weathers that early Foreman storm.
@youtoo22338 ай бұрын
Other than Foreman, Frazier gave all fighters hell
@ascendediam7 ай бұрын
come on ali would even beat Louis in his amateur form those guys looks like novices every one,my video shows the average person in 70s was way more advanced,george was way more advanced Joe was complete for his era would be destroyed by any average 70s
@fepender67228 ай бұрын
“God” how i miss that man
@1Maddd2mackxxx8 ай бұрын
Absolutely the best left hook in boxing ever Smoking Joe Frazier rest in peace champ
@ugaais7 ай бұрын
Tommy Morrison had an incredible one also
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
@@ugaaisDavid tuaaaaaaaaaaaa
@scs28505 ай бұрын
The heavyweight division changes in the 70s so many different styles and power punchers had better footwork
@anonymousf4548 ай бұрын
I do believe a prime Joe Frazier gives Forman a better fight than what we saw of him. Maybe not all, but I say 3 out of 10 fights Frazier by KO.
@nyterpfan8 ай бұрын
Agree 100% The version of Frazier that fought Ali in 71' was a fierce pit-bull! The version of Frazier in 73' that fought Foreman was a shell of the 71' Frazier!!
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
no, joe frazier was near to his prime in first confrontation (of course he may declined in terms of pace but he was still decent level boxer) , foreman's fighting style was totally nullified all possible attack of frazier. I likened this to Ali and norton fights (of course Ali wasnt in his prime but I believe that despite Ali was his prime probably ken norton would give quite tough fight )
@anonymousf454Ай бұрын
@@mustafaatalay212 I watched Frazier against Ali, and I do not believe that version of Frazier gets stuffed that easily by Foreman. I believe that Frazier from that night gives Foreman hell, and if that Frazier connects with that left hook, it would be good night Irene for young George....just my personal opinion, and I am a fan of both.
@danielwhirley6779Ай бұрын
Hagler and Smoken Joe Hitman Hearns my favorite.
@artisaprimus63067 ай бұрын
Come on! Why didn't they show Frazier/ Ali one. Probably Joe Fraziers greatest fight.
@bobbyhulll87378 ай бұрын
That Chuvalo fight was going to be a war
@ekklesialifeapplicationbib73523 ай бұрын
🥊🥊🥊
@arterial8 ай бұрын
Nice video although not sure why you've sped up the footage of every fight. It gives a false impression of the speed of heavyweights.
@mozfonky8 ай бұрын
now way, Foster lost against just about all the heavies he fought, different era than today or even when michael spinks and michael moorer jumped weight classes.
@michaelgaskell20316 ай бұрын
Big George dealt with shorty
@mankivigs18 ай бұрын
Best left hook in history.
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
and david tua
@theodoreconstantini25488 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier's peak year was in 1967.
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
1968 to 1971
@christophermallory34008 ай бұрын
Just don't show the Foreman fight
@segunagbetuyi51127 ай бұрын
Frazier was bold as a bull dog; he always put everything , heart, spirit & energy into his work. Somehow, I personally thought his style was crude & unentertaining: head down, bubbling & charging forward like a rhino. Foreman nearly killed him, lifting him completely off his two feet into space. Frazier worked hard & was a great guy but he didn't quite make my book of class acts. RIP JOE
@Thelategreatjohnnybratton8 ай бұрын
The difference between a great great champion and all others is the ability to adapt. Ali adapted when he lost his speed. He became a punching bag because he never learned classic boxing style. His holding behind the head and often leaning on the ropes and his great chin and tremendous heart and character make him maybe the greatest. Robinson adapted. When he got old and in his comeback he adapted to his old age and was able to beat beasts like Fullmer and Basilio and even under rated Bobo Olson. Robinson was fighting on memory when he fought Fullmer and Basilio but because he has had classic boxing techniques he was able to adapt. Foreman adapted in his comeback. Smoking Joe was not able to adapt. He fought Foreman the same way he fought Ali. He had one gear. A great champion but not among the all time best.
@fights13978 ай бұрын
That is some of the best analysis I've ever seen. The warning signs for Frazier are shown when he gets hurt by Bonavena and that uppercut from Ramos which buckled his legs. His only survival skills are head movement which is fine in his prime as it was that good but after the first Ali fight he was never the same fighter and when he got hurt vs George he just couldn't avoid the punches. He should have developed some clinching. He wasn't the kind of guy who was going to start using lateral movement.
@gophersk8 ай бұрын
Chuvalo was the the toughest fighter I ever saw.
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
dont forget david tua
@jerichobeach29678 ай бұрын
Vs chuvalo was the most shocking the way he won. Joe didnt seem to have a good right but he didnt need it cuz his left was so damn good it was like a shotgun
@Majorblack-er5wt8 ай бұрын
Frazier was good
@nyeahgarner24208 ай бұрын
My grandfather didn't like him. He always said "I can't believe Ali got beat by a human hamburger".
@NazSBG8 ай бұрын
Frazier was treated like a bum by the self professing greatest in Ali. When Ali was out of boxing, Joe helped him financially. Ali paid him back with insults and real unfriendly attitude, Ali basically treated Joe like shit. Frazier's knockdown punch of Ali is one of the greatest. Frazier was more of a gentleman than Ali ever was. Ali for is not the greatest heavyweight ever. He was self professing and the media went with it!
@ugaais7 ай бұрын
It what his new religion teaches
@alanpollock79298 ай бұрын
You notice Jerry hitting Joe in the body, quite frankly you couldnt hurt Joe in the body, Jerry should have concentrated on the head like Ali did.
@fights13976 ай бұрын
Good point. Jerry puts up a great fight. Most people thought he was going to win that fight. I think he was the favourite with the sportsbooks. Jerry was as tough as they come. Very unlucky to be in an era with those beasts. He would be able to get inside and do serious damage to todays heavyweights with his compact hooks. That left hook is a nice punch by Quarry. Very compact.
@roberthockett2708 ай бұрын
Bonavena discovered Joe's one vulnerability and Big George then systematized and perfected the means of exploiting it: pushing Joe away at the shoulders then hooking big before he can reposition himself.
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
Bonevana was literally decent boxer but he has been deprived from victory in joe frazier fight, after this fight he couldnt get his head together
@joetrie8 ай бұрын
Fraizer Career record (all fights): 32-4 (not too impressive) Career record real heavyweight fights 200×2 lbs: 13-4 Career record real superheavyweight fights 215×2 lbs: 1-2 Frazier fought 20x against bums: KO'ratio 90% Frazier fought 17x against non-bums (that's very good): KO'ratio 52% and of these 17 ALL were natural cruisers except 2 ( Buster Mathis (win) and Foreman (2x loss) Frazier outweighed his opponents in 21 fights: KO'Ratio 95% (he KO'ed all of them but 1) Frazier was outweighed in 15 fights: KO'ratio 46% (featherfist) Median weight of Frazier's KO'victim: 197 lbs (cruiser) Frazier boxed 9 times against natural heavies (that's good) He scored 4 KOs (featherfist) of which 3 were against bums ·Don Smith (11-7) ·Ron Stander (37-21) ·Mel Turnbow (8-13) and 1 KO (round 11) was against a non-bum ·Buster Mathis (30-4, 61% KO'ratio), a very fat boxer. No wonder Frazier could KO him in the 11th round: It was the first time that Buster went more than 10 rounds and already the previous 10-rounder of Buster was merely a split decision against bum ·Bob Stallings (31-32, 201 lbs). Frazier never fought some of the better boxers of his time like Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, etc Joe Frazier KO'ed 14 opponents within 3 rounds (that's pretty good, considering he had only 37 fights). But it turns out that ALL of them were bums (median career record of these bums 11-23) except for 2 opponents: ·Bob Foster 188 lbs (= cruiser) and ·Dave Zyglewycz 190 lbs (= cruiser) whom tiny Frazier (hold your hat) out-weighed, out-reached and out-talled. Dave Zyglewycz has been called "the worst guy to ever get a title shot" and once you check his wins (ONLY bums, median record 10-16) you will have to agree.
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
Dude I couldn't agree more with you but I think he would defeat ken norton easily.As you know ken norton was notoriously glass chin boxer so he would melted under pressure of frazier.
@user-xy2uk2mt3y7 ай бұрын
Ali night mare lol but they’re legends rip both Muhammad and joe
@garyfallows11238 ай бұрын
Frazier, Ali, Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Tyson, Holmes, the golden era, proper boxers, proper heavyweights, not afraid to face anyone, not like today's so called boxers
@PanchoBotas7 ай бұрын
Tyson? You're joking right?
@garyfallows11237 ай бұрын
@@PanchoBotas I know his era was a bit later, but I was meaning he didn't duck anyone like today's heavyweight's
@PanchoBotas7 ай бұрын
@garyfallows1123 Tyson doesn't rate anywhere near the guys you listed. Holmes fought Tyson when Holmes was 38 years old and after he had retired for 20 months. 6 years earlier and Holmes would have kicked his ass just like Lennox did.
@garyfallows11237 ай бұрын
@@PanchoBotas you clearly didn't read my reply, I didn't say he was in the same league, I said he never ducked anyone
@PanchoBotas7 ай бұрын
@@garyfallows1123 Riddick Bowe, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, George Forman, Tua, Klitchko to name a few
@johndrawdy89028 ай бұрын
Ai patients in this view
@ambushedimagination19317 ай бұрын
A Bulldozer
@willismartin91968 ай бұрын
A statue of Smokin Joe should be in Philadelphia, not that fake actor.😊
@lindebr8 ай бұрын
Power in either hand? Frazier had no punch other than his left hook.
@raulurrajr.74038 ай бұрын
Ali would have whipped Fraizer If they fought around 68 or 69 cause at that time Ali was in his prime and nobody could beat him during that time.
@Rei_Tatekei8 ай бұрын
Lmao no
@bamog45608 ай бұрын
That’s right , the Ali of 67 was the best heavyweight of all time he would have beat Joe. Ali nearly beat Joe in 71 and he had been out of the ring for 3 years and only had two fights after his enforced exile. Joe was a great fighter and a great human being but was vulnerable against big punchers
@atomicflash17538 ай бұрын
He cannot beat George Foreman
@tomrudolsen62357 ай бұрын
And George Foreman could not beat Muhammad Ali
@atomicflash17537 ай бұрын
@@tomrudolsen6235 Boulderdash
@davidbuck62627 ай бұрын
Tyson in his prime would have knocked Frazier out in the first round
@leslietravis30798 ай бұрын
Until he met George foreman 😂
@michaelares42408 ай бұрын
Cheater Hater
@PageMarker18 ай бұрын
Not so good against Foreman.
@mustafaatalay212Ай бұрын
I bet if he didnt evade liston nobody will know who joe frazier was , because liston and foreman carried similarity in their style. I think all success of joe frazier was beating up Ali in 1971.
@PageMarker1Ай бұрын
@@mustafaatalay212 Liston was a bit before my time, but he was a beast! Rumor has it he had mob obligations against Clay, not sure how true that is/was. Never like Frazier, but no denying his heart. Ali back in his day was not as popular as the bandwagon would have us believe, he was cocky as hell and that turned a LOT of people off. Thought Foreman as going to kill him in Zaire. Cheers!
@stevenledbetter99978 ай бұрын
Frazier was a good fighter but not great. He fought a lot of stiffs. His style worked well with Ali but when he faced better competition he lost. 2 of 3 to Ali, 2 to Foreman. He didn't face the best fighters. No Norton, no Lyle or Shavers, no Young.
@anthonyrussomanno15407 ай бұрын
Yea one of those stiffs was Ali lol
@anthonyrussomanno15407 ай бұрын
I think u bumped your head go back to bed
@_ErIc19769 ай бұрын
Oscar won that fight . Oscar got robbed
@johnclaba145713 күн бұрын
In his prime he was unbeatable. I dont think anyone could have beaten him between 1968 - 1971. The first Ali fight which he won convincingly and which I think is the greatest boxing match in boxing history, took a lot out of him. He was never the same fighter after that fight. Ali was not the same fighter either...but he had more boxing talent than Frazier to offset the physical assets he lost during that fight.