Keep drinking the kool-aid Bobby. I mean Keep taking the vaccine and then the next one and the next one and the next one and the next one. Now we want you to take another vaccine for this new strain. Don't forget to take your flu vaccine

Bobby if I misunderstood you then I apologize in advance

@@workingman4918 it’s ok, I know words can be tough for morons who drink urine, eat horse paste & simp for celebrities. Just sound the letters out, you got this. I believe in you.

Lol

@@workingman4918 You're just mad because it's funny.

You know, ask a virologist who has decades in the field vs. Joe Six Pack who loves Trump and has read a lot of VAERS stuff that sounds pretty serious. Both opinions are surely equal right? That virologist is just elitist!

Always was. Uncle Tommy on facebook has some real interesting theories on colloidal silver.

@@aeroripper I used to have a partner who thought the same way - that his opinion on anything was absolutely as valid as someone with decades of experience in any given field, because ‘opinions’, by definition, are born equal, according to him. He was utterly exhausting.

@@lornarettig3215 as a historian; I run into many of these kind of people on FB and in KZfaq comments.

@@drstone6798 "afletes" where did you go to school?

The pathophysiology of COVID-19-related myocarditis is thought to be a combination of direct viral injury and cardiac damage due to the host’s immune response. I would think "direct viral injury" is a non-issue for the vaccine since you aren't actually getting infected with a replicating virus. Which leaves severity of immune response, which will typically be much lower following a vaccine, and would also be lower for a vaccinated person getting subsequently infected with covid because they already have established some immunity to the virus. Regardless, I see no reason to think that heart inflammation would be additive by first getting vaccinated and then getting a vaccine-inhibited covid infection.

Source?

@@timberger212 use your browser.

@@glenelkin1 u a doctor?

@@jareds5520 wrong

Agreed. But they won't shake their heads. Listen to the dude in the video. He's a perfect example of "projection". Carl Jung would be proud.

Bs

@@MAgaSUXX?

The study that is presented is no proof. Learn the basics about medical resarch. You arrogance is only surpassed by your ignorance.

Only 1% of adverse reactions from the jab get reported.. including the heart issues

The vaccine is not a cure lol but it’s very effective.

@@drstone6798 hyperbole much?

@@drstone6798 Go troll somewhere else...so obsessed with David.

@@drstone6798 underlying health issues, not the vaccine

"Search your feelings. You know it to be true!" - Darth Fauci, probably

Yeah he just agrees with whoever is on his show lol. This has been his schtick for a long time.

Supposedly it's a conversation style. Aimed at getting the guest comfortable and willing to to be more open.

@@xq8152 And platforming disingenuous grifters.

@@xq8152 chicken and egg kinda thing

@@drstone6798 cocaine use

Inconvenient facts aren't welcomed in the david's brought to you by pfizer show. Still waiting for his apology for getting so much of covid wrong. Zero critical thinking skills, trusting corporations that have paid billions in criminal finds. Not very astute at all. Embarrassing really. At least trump and David agree on something. They both wrongly believe this vaccine has saved millions of lives. Not based in reality, but when your trying to force a dangerous product on people, a little window dressing goes a long way.

And not a single issue so far with any player in the NFL, NBA, WNBA, NHL, etc... 300% of 1, is 3. 300% means nothing without context.

That's pretty bad. Just goes to show what covid can do, eh?

Says the guy who thinks this Peter guy invented mRNA vax 🤣

@@arthurmorgan332 says the guy who says this Peter guy .......

Pakman never had any cred total shill

Rogan was clearly wrong so not sure what context could add.

@@Cumtopia18 a shill would be someone like Kyle Kulinski who doesn't have the balls to call out his buddy Rogan else he would never be invited back.

So he learned nothing? What a surprise.

@@clarkkent1521 pretty much. That when I also decided to stop listening to JRE. He had her on so many times and once she’s stated that Covid causes more ailments then the vaccine you can see his uncomfortable reaction.

The Rhonda Patrick interview was a joke because she wasn’t prepared or informed enough to rebuttal a lot of his nonsense. So many questions in that interview were answered by “I don’t know” by Rhonda. Another disappointing opportunity for a guest to check Rogan.

Yes that I did see.

gop logic now is to ignore the 99 out of 100 people telling you facts and stuff that is true, but rather trust hte ONE person out of that 100 saying not to do ' so and so ' because ' so and so ' .....

Joe Rogan didn't post this on KZfaq. This is the spread of medical misinformation by David pakman. Basically he is saying David pakman is smarter than doctors and he knows more than you and spreading the information to KZfaq which is against their community guidelines. Joe Rogan isn't posting this.

@@richardhorn7688 then where did David get this clip if it wasn’t posted?

@@richardhorn7688 your post is nonsensical.

@@lowroad4257 thank god someone said it, I read the post twice and thought my brain was melting.

@@richardhorn7688 What are you talking about. Where do you think Packman got it from? Rogan is a moron by his own admission. If you think David is spreading misinformation then post your source right here to the correct information.

Alot hasn't aged well. Lol

It literally has. You just dont understand how to read papers.

@@jhonklan3794astra zeneca pulled the vax for known dangerous side effects and a tsunami of lawsuits, it hasn’t aged well lol

So true.

You’re right, however every time you go to your doctor for a procedure or new medication there are warnings about possible problems that could arise. These people are acting like complications and side effects are something new! The problem is folks using anything associated with the pandemic for political or monetary gain.

@@Junkinsally The problem is that people somehow have a problem with getting vaccinated for COVID-19 but they are perfectly with clogging about the ICU when they get sick or taking brand new medications (as if taking a new pill is different from taking a new vaccine)..

@@smartass0124 Where is your data?

And they only seek info that will reinforce their preconceived notions.

Sounds like every other Republican type out there, not one of them can think for themselves. Mob mentality is dangerous.

He believes things his "friend" Alex Jones says.

Joe Rogan a republican gtfoh. You obviously never watched or listened much

@@jasondadarria and not only is this true, but bizzarely because of projection they make "doing your own research" like the central pillar of why they are smarter than everyone else. anytime a Repub says something bad about something else, they are probably exposing what is bad about them

He's a meat head, that's why.

These are all questions you can check now.

Study?

@@drstone6798 [has] no verbs.

@@jd0604 the info you believe and trust is also questionable so what do we do sit on the fence forever?

His ego is too strong for him to admit he’s wrong. He really has lost his way.

I should like to point out that Joe Rogan a) has an audience that he is playing to b) is not a doctor c) said he's an idiot and nobody should listen to him full stop.

People with belief systems like this are never going to admit that they're wrong when they're confronted like this. It's normal to get defensive and try to argue for your "side". But if he's confronted with enough evidence it's possible that over the course of a few months he could slowly come to realize that he's fallen for a bunch of BS.

GOOD ONE.

I am still waiting for my powers of magnetism. I just got the BioNTech booster today, so maybe there's a chance.

It's the same people who have self reported themselves to be so medically unfit to be able to wear a simple mask.

That's what VAERS is. Just a whole bunch of self reporting without any verifying. It's ridiculous that anyone uses it as "proof" and expects to be taken seriously.

@@Nails_By_Kimberlee We should either make reports visible only to medical professionals, or get rid of it entirely; it seems to be causing more harm than good right now.

Sure you can be curious. He’s not being that. He’s had his point or view shaken and he’s grasping to hold onto that narrative. Did he ask where all for the info about he’s current opinions came from. Of course not. A peer reviewed study should have more weight than an opinion and the issue is it’s the other way around in media.

@@MichaelRonnfeldt to be fair Joe was referencing an article from the Guardian that said exactly what Joe was talking about. Turns out the Guardian was wrong, based on the clip shown here. So, is Joe at fault for believing them or is the Guardian at fault for being the ones releasing misinformation? I'd say the latter. Joe isn't a journalist, is he?

Bingo!

🤣compare facts🤣

Yea he’s such a beta. I say this because he rarely challenges ideas, and is compelled for everyone to like him. And 100% agree with you. He should just step up, say I was wrong, and move on. But no, he keeps perpetuating his stupidity. Such a shame.

@@Domzdream yea well said theres a deep insecurity in there

men made up vast pantheons of gods, codes and language's of angels, eons of fantasy's and tragedy's, wars and genocides, rather then say " i dont know."

@@comfortsuites4465 100%

@@comfortsuites4465 great point

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450 out of 1 million is less than 1/2 of one tenth of one percent. Not really worth arguing about

Joe Rogan's ape brain strikes again.

The thing that amazes me about the kind of behavior you capture with that comment is, "Do those people not realize everyone else can tell?" It's not a socially difficult thing to identify someone's pre-existing beliefs and measure how much they evade information that might challenge it. I get this vibe like they think nobody else can see their fly is undone so long as they keep crossing their legs. No anti-vaxxer is savvy about the way they cover their eyes and ears.

@@timesathousand he referred to another study later. there are many studies, not all consistent. in either case, 0.00045 is not very releveant statistically.

Spot on! If people think the government and these criminal companies (Cough ... Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson... Cough) care about their health then nobody can help them... too far gone. These "elites" only have financial interest and nothing else. They couldn't give 2fucks about people's health lol.

Being sceptical and actually disagreeing with factual studies is a big difference, however.

@@owaindavies1076 factual for who? The people that get paid to do the study for the pharmaceutical company's? You and me? We mean less than nothing to these company's. Agree or disagree the damage has been done now regardless of what you and me think.

@@crazymage9636 so you’d disagree with empirical evidence but agree with a random person from facebook who shares similar biases against vaccinations? Data that has been backed up that throughly is factual, sorry to tell you…

@@owaindavies1076 does the person have to be from Facebook? Is that where the problem current non belivers lurk spreading their antivax propaganda? I dont use facebook. It's for bots and boomers. When you say thoroughly factual I don't think you know what lengths these giant companies will go to to push their vaccine's, sorry to tell you. You should just continue to watch the news because it's designed for you. But without insulting your intelligence too much I respect your opinion and belief in the system.

when you try to dispute the validity/credibility of a source but you trust whatever shit you read before and/or heard from some other dude, there's nothing rational at all... typical "i'm on the right side of the argument" syndrome, which is quite funny (and sad) because rogan had always tried to fight that type of behavior up until recently. he seems pretty irrelevant now, with his conventional/expected take on things because he literally can have a strong and definitive opinion in one podcast, then do a complete 180 in the next...it is fine in your living room with your friends, but when u have such a huge platform, it is not in my opinion.

@@AndThenShwarmaAfter it's called the Joe Rogan experience ..if people don't like his opinions don't listen him .. he's spoke with medical experts and discussed topics for hours upon hours and constantly reminds people he's a meat head ,who likes to talk to people about things he finds interesting .. you would want him to be censored ? Or only say what you want to hear ? mainstream media got caught out lying about him and he confronted nthem on his podcast. . how do you feel about a huge platform like CNN blatantly lying ?? They broadcast into everyone's living room ? JRE on Spotify

@@AndThenShwarmaAfter so Joe was right after all and mind you, he doesn’t care about being right for the sake of pride. He cares to be right cause it’s the ethical and moral thing to do.

Straight up! Lmfao!!!

Jamie Stayed Silent on not google ling the false stuff Tim Pool does. and then Joe had Josh appologize to Tim Pool.

I’d love to sit Jamey down and ask what he REALLY thinks about Joe and his opinions.

After the show - "don't ever embarrass me like that again"

Jaime is a lefty for sure, but he had a talking to by Joe because it would get to a point where the guests are contesting Jaime. Joe is a narcissist like that he can't have anyone else talk to the guest.

I hope so, I was a huge fan for about 10 years

It won’t. It’s too profitable.

He was a long-time moon landing denier. He has mentioned several times how "he used to think" when critizing conspiracy nuts like his buddy Eddie, but here we are. I don't see Joe admitting he was wrong and dangerously irresponsible. At best he'll shut up about it. Or go full flat earth. Time will tell.

@@jimboslice3646 Yeah, I know. And I think he still believes Bob Lazar and that the bigfoot is real.

@@jimboslice3646 when this spike of conservative listeners stop listening he will come to reason. And they will stop listening eventually. Most of the stuff Joe says goes strongly against traditional conservative values.

can you name some of the studies that say exactly so, since it would be weird because even normal common cold can cause myocarditis, and there are studies on that.

80% of covid cases have mild or no symptoms, these are not included it this data. Only the most severe cases were included, the most severe cases imo would be more likely to cause lasting effects.

YA that would be interesting...except the CDA decided to not collect data from anyone who was vaccinated! You can't make this shit up...

Yeah, but the rates are incredibly different. Vaccinated individuals contract and spread alpha and delta at rates MASSIVELY lower than the unvaccinated, and STRONGLY lower even when it comes to omicron. And rates matter.

@@AtomWeaver8 That’s false. Here in Denmark 90% of the country is vaccinated (all 3 shots), yet now we’re close to another lockdown. I don’t remember the exact number, but almost everyone that’s in the hospital now are vaccinated. How’s the logic here?

​@@ricksterdrummer2170 So almost everyone is vaccinated, and almost everyone in the hospital is vaccinated? You do realize that makes perfect sense right? I'd wager the hospitalization rates are fairly low, and that 10% is over represented.

Not really

Rogan maybe has goldfish genes from the juice he takes.

Joe treats new information like a child treats new food. Tries new food and if he doesn't like it, a couple days later it leaves his body, never to be used again. If the kid likes the food, he wants to eat it for every meal.

@@jaygothejakehernandez8908 he certainly didn’t learn from his Michael Osterholm. He had a complete wipe of whatever expert advice or opinion he gained from him. There are clips going about where it cuts from his Michael osterholm interview where joe is agreeing with him and what the medical consensus is, to a “few weeks later” and joe is repeating fuelling misinformation from the likes of Malone.

This is one of the funniest comments I’ve seen thus far, thank you my friend. You’re hilarious

Y'know how omicron is mild but super infectious? It's almost impossible to tell how many people shrugged it off or were completely asymptomatic. Anecdotally everyone I know who works in public got sick of something this past month.

@@drstone6798 Stop liking yourself troll

Remember his scapegoat is he’s just a stupid comedian lol

Because he's making it up to fit his narrative.

@@urwifesmacho777 and he's not much of a comedian either

Where can I find that video?

@@thomasjohnson4217 It's from a Jimmy "Nuke'em" Dore video, so if you find him to far out there... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7KjgZd03tHOm3k.html

@@TheRealBozz - Yes but where did this "doctor" get his information from??? (See how that works asshole?).

He was quoting an article from The Guardian that used incorrect information but was never taken down after they found out it was false.

@@MorpheusASmith Easy there! Morpheus would never call somebody an asshole! :( :( :(

I can verify that guys I was the needle

no shit hey, too many people stupidly would take Joe Rogan's "medical" advise over their own actual doctors. What happens when some idiot suffers complications as result of something Joe prescribes? Do they go him for help, do they get to sue him for "malpractice" or do they go to a hospital with doctors for treatment.

@@drstone6798 your trolling, and spelling, are both weak. Go try another channel.

@@drstone6798 you have zero impact troll

@@drstone6798 Please try using an English guide. Your grammar is the worst.

@@drstone6798 That probably sounded better in your language.

We glorify the slacker and the smart guy is always a nerd. Who is popular in high school? Not the chess champion. Duuuuuuuude.

Joe was secretly already taking horse meds before covid so...

@@toddr2265 lol…

Are you talking about the studies done all over the world showing ivermectin’s effectiveness? Mexico? India? Japan? In early treatment it’s literally lowered hospitalizations and even deaths in poorer countries where literally millions of people have taken it. I can’t believe people are still calling it a horse drug it’s ridiculously stupid.

@@mattbish8474 just get vaccinated. Lol

People listen to entertainers though, the fact that America just had a reality show host as President for 4 years should indicate that

Ohhh shiit

They love lying about that part

Or any of the crap he injected/swallowed when he got COVID.

No he likely got the info from a quack that has an American flag as a backdrop in their profile picture.

Yeah.....right.

@@MalikChrom I don't think you can avoid COVID, it's already infected people in arctic research labs for example.

@@MalikChrom The problem is when people don't listen or believe in scientific facts. With results showing it's far better to be vaccinated in our fight against covid than not. Kinda like wearing a bullet proof vest. Everyone isn't getting shot but those who do will most likely survive wearing the vest. Or maybe like getting into a car crash, those who wear the seatbelts are more likely to survive. 🤔 The analogies are endless. I wonder what makes someone so defiant against the science? Do you think Joe questioned the other info he's received or did he just say to himself, hmmmm this seems right! 🤯

It doesn't take alot of education to understand what a peer reviewed study is...ESPECIALLY when we're talking about the medical field. I don't disagree with the fundamental point you're making, I just don't agree that Rogan is a smart person. He's a guy that thinks he's smarter than he actually is because he surrounds himself with idiots regularly and also interviews smart people as a business. An actual smart person understands that arguing with medical and science sector experts when you're a comedian and podcast host is asinine. Only two other answers are arrogance/hubris or he's just another conservative meathead now...which still plays out with you not being too smart anyway.

The Dunning-Kruger is strong with him.

@@smartass0124 exhausted of too much schoolwork.

@@smartass0124 nothing you said is true. “Every” athlete isn’t collapsing from the vaccine, that’s clearly a lie. Millions and millions have been safely vaccinated and the overwhelming majority of those hospitalised are unvaccinated. If you care so much about people’s health, why aren’t you concerned about the number of unvaccinated people ending up in hospital?

"Dr. Rogan" strikes again with his vaccine hesitancy.

Lol, all over. Easy to find.

That's just because they have too much ego. If I know I'm wrong on something I said, I will immediately apologize and move on with that new information. This is not a humanity thing. It's a 21st century toxic mentality.

@@-gumby-3381 Not if we're talking about political opinions. Changing ones view is very difficult. I don't mean changing someone else's view, I mean for you to change your own views. That takes a lot of self-awareness of a person and it doesn't happen automatically. Although I'm not a psychologist it seems like a very natural defense mechanism, because if you are presented with information that directly contradicts your existing beliefs then you would be very easily fooled if you automatically accepted it without treating the information with scepticism. It is relevant that all potential counter-arguments or problems with a piece of information may not be obvious to the recepient at first. For this reason it makes sense that there is a delay in a human's ability to accept information.

Here is how Joe Rogan was RIGHT... 1. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJineLN8zNW7pJs.html 2. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7KjgZd03tHOm3k.html

Here is the problem though, joe didn't challenge Malone's opinion on the same way.

@@-gumby-3381 you also aren’t on a podcast, being tracked on every word you say. He has a responsibility to not just blatantly lie but being curious on other alternatives isn’t an ego problem.

@@drstone6798 That doesn’t even make sense.

@@drstone6798 You need a better english translation program.

That’s a bit insulting to B and C graders 😂

🤣

This is a freshmen, non-major science course student trying to argue with a department head in their area of study.

You sir are dumb to listen to Rogan and Candace! Candace went from hating your guy trump to his biggest support! That should tell you she's only after the money!

Some people never grow up. Joe Rogan still has a ways to go. It is nice to see other people evolving out of this childish behavior. Congrats, seriously. I'm glad you have seen through this childishness

@@calm1047 Hey no need to get nasty and call people dumb. Ironic, since your KZfaq name is calm.

I don't watch JRE for Rogan. I watch it because he can book fascinating guests due to the popularity of his podcast. Rogan is skilled in steering a conversation to keep it interesting though. Credit where due and all.

Me too, I used to listen to him all the time, I guess the universe corrected me before I went down his rabbit hole.

I'd say it aged like milk, but to each his own. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9025013/

How does this study apply? Rogan himself said he’s talking about boys 12-17, the study you posted was only adults.

@@MyBucketOfScapulas Some truth there, the linked study analyzed date in the Israeli program in 2021 when they weren't giving it to children, the Thai study in 2022 focused on 13-18 was equally disastrous. Sorry can't link the studies anymore, youtube doesn't like doing your own research...

Found the Thai study. What do you mean by disastrous?

@@MyBucketOfScapulas Ok, I'll dumb it down. Avoidable heart issues in children is bad.

He is not qualified. He is only ideologically invested in the mainstream narrative at this point.

Yep i totally agree. Dr Vinay Prasad did a video about the study i believe Joe is referring to. So it seems to me that the science on this is not yet settled. Packman is way too sure of himself, there is alot of confirmation bias in this video.

Yup, America is doomed.

There’s a lot of Stoopids out there. I always thought they were there but I had no idea there were THIS many. No idea!

and clowns like MTG , boebert and gop senators who make no sense

He's NOT a "wrestling commentator"....he's a punch drunk pot head mma commentator. LOL.

dont remind me = " America" land of the anti-intellectuals uggggh

Wait a minute ... the earth's not flat?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Eddie Bravo is the flat Earther, not Joe Rogan.

Lol my son once said to a flat earther, I don’t know, you turn left at Vancouver you get to China and you turn right at Newfoundland and get to China 🤷

@@angiezgiet9748 @Angie. Clint is attempting irony.

Because he admitted he was wrong.

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"I'm talking about single celled organisms"

@@marlonblade007 😂🤣😡

😂😂😂

@@marlonblade007 comment of the century 🤣🤣🤣

you can see in justifying his beliefs as new information was coming in challenging his claims and beliefs: "but not young ppl though..." "oh, it includes young ppl, then it doesn't include fetuses." moving the goalpost is right. he tries not to look stupid, but he doesn't do it the way trump does. he still does it and he is still wrong, but he tries to save face.

He wasn’t always like this, it’s a shame. In fact he often called people out for living in an echo chamber when it came to their views, yet he’s now doing just that. Especially with Covid.

@@SayAhh What's funny is joe is actually right... stop listening to what the MSM are reporting and you might see that the CDC have been proven to be under reporting Myocarditis occurrences and lying about the numbers. You are just as likely to get Myocarditis if not more from the vaccine than you are from Covid. I get my information from virologists and doctors who have an objective view on the numbers.

Joe changes his mind and narrative all the time. People like you shouldn't have such a confident opinion for something you don't know wtf youre talking about. Gotta love all the hypocrites and irony in this thread.

@@varisia281 please list your sources. Also, we can treat myocarditis better than we can treat COVID. Also, monoclonal treatment is starting to not have an effect on the newer variants or something. When COVID becomes MRSA-like and nothing can treat it, then we'll see what new excuses antivaxxers will come up with. Most doctors will tell you that the benefits of the vaccine outweighs its risks.

you just hit the hammer with the nails head. Summed up (most) the entire world and all of it's "glory" =)

Correct about everything except he was never a MMA fighter..

Back in 2020 he had to tel his listeners multiple times not to listen to his advice about corona because he’s an idiot about it. Because he got caught spreading obviously false conspiracy theories. Then somehow in 2021 he becomes “America’s” most trusted corona expert (read: antivaxxers most trusted). This is insane.

Well he does have a folder on his phone with all the articles that he claims to be an expert of. So there’s that, lol 😂

@@jasonp357 My mistake, I barely even knew he existed until about a year ago. Wasn't he some kind of wrestler or fighter or something like that?

@@ck5071 in his supporters' minds, Joe isn't lying to them and bring on experts that confirm his beliefs

@@drstone6798 Can you show proof 1) that it happened, 2) if it did, how many athletes, and 3) if it did happen, it wasn't some other treatment, medical condition or overexertion that caused them to collapse? But I bet you can't because FB and Twitter memes are not primary sources of information.

@@50jakecs lmao

No, athletes aren't collapsing. And definitely not because of the vaccine. That's fake news and has been debunked.

@@50jakecs Dr Stone definitely can’t, it’s a lie - but we knew that. Reuters asked a bunch of sports governing bodies and none of them were aware of any incidents. It appears someone made a montage of sports stars having medical issues - some clips pre vaccine, some pre Covid, and now the conspiracy theorists have latched on to it. Two years in and they’re still deep into this BS

@@drstone6798 Athletes have been passing out on the field forever!

have you accounted for the dramatically reduced risk of getting covid if you're vaccinated, and the reduced risk of severe symptoms (which would presumably include myorcaditis) even if you do catch it?

@@theonionpirate1076 you sure it dramatically reduces the chances of catching covid ? It’s not dramatic at all in absolute risk terms especially with respect to omicron . Covid is now endemic . Everyone will catch it eventually and so being vaccinated will doubly expose a person to the vary rare risk of myocarditis.

@@theonionpirate1076 look at 98+% vaccinated Israel and compare their latest wave on a per capita basis to areas of the world with low vaccination and they are the same. The vaccine does less and less every mutation. And every mutation will get less deadly as viruses do.

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Those are 2 things I don't associated together, Joe Rogan and "Thinker"

@@AncientHippie Pakman is a shill.

It’s not him people listen too it’s his guests which for the most part are all credible people in their fields. You should go give some of the podcasts a listen smarty pants

What’s scary is people like you ... who think that Rogan is trying to convince people what to believe... like CNN or BBC... when in FACT he is getting guests on who offer differing opinions and information who are BANNED from airing their views on such channels and media outlets.... if you are so blinkered and happy living in the narrative , without even questioning anything about what is going on around the world , then good luck to you. Coz one day you’ll be awake and it’ll be too late .

Vote President Camacho 2024

He's been citing a peer reviewed study for months that showed risk of myocarditis in young children was higher from the vaccine than from covid. It's an important question how do we reconcile these two studies. Dismissing it as anti Vax fuels the conspiracies and casts doubt on science in general. Edit: couldn't find the study but found the link joe usually refers to one may exist.

@@rickybobby3361 interesting, can you give any examples of these peer related views?

@@rickybobby3361 I'm curious too. Can only find a bs "study" cited on fox that was not peer reviewed and from questionable sources. Sources that were more interested in anti vaccine ideas than science

@@rickybobby3361 lol which peer study?

@@rickybobby3361 it's been well knows that there is a risk of myocarditis from viral infections. covid even more so and it isn't just one study, we have multiple studies demonstrating this by now since we're 2 years into this pandemic

well i mean did you even understand what was happening in the convo the amount of shifting going on from rogan would be hard to pick up on unless you were very focused, he twists the meaning of his sentences based on the sentences of others.

Exactly, the question of which is more dangerous vaccine or covid is flawed because it assumes they are mutually exclusive

Because Rogan pulls studies from his ass and Alex Jones.

No that’s clearly NOT true, this was a prime example of Joe Rogan getting it wrong but of course he won’t admit it because the evidence doesn’t fit with his agenda!

@@bellabana you're the same thing as op (who is pointing out the hypocrisy)

he accepts VAERS as entirely true but peer reviewed studies as "who are these people?" 😂

@@bellabana yese rthe side who uniroincally votd for a sen il old folks home patient who destroyed the country, over thre best pres in mdoern history, is def the side of reason

@@drstone6798 none of what you wrote is true. You are trying to spread misinformation

I dont think youre allowed to hide behind the guise of "bro chat" when you have doctors promoting misinformation during a global pandemic. He's got to have some sense of social responsibility.

@@drstone6798 🐡 has a greater intellect than you.

@@franklinprichard9151 Lol if you are on his podcast you suspend strict guidelines and flirt around with some bro chat. Even as a doctor. That's why people love Rogan's podcast. He doesn't make it academic and even with some brain farts he makes it interesting. But again if you don't go with what your personal doctor says then its on you.

@@morecharacterswithamix9067 u realize a large portion of his audience probably doesn't go to a doctor right? Malone Wasnt sharing his opinion, he was intentionally misrepresenting data to fit his narrative.

Spot on

Exactly how I feel. Now my hope is that just like his come to reality moment with the moon landing he does the same with this covid stuff. The consequences are obviously much greater believing and spewing the covid nonsense he does than the moon stuff back in the day. But hoping he can turn a corner back to reality sooner than later

I've hardly watched an episode since he moved to spotify, bar some MMA stuff, and a few random guests. His mental gymnastics over the last year or so, haven't made me feel that I'm missing out on much.

This. 💯%

Same here. I actually miss how his show used to be.

Yeah, cause you recover from myocarditis. No biggie.

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When the jab cause myocarditis, suddenly the coff cause myocarditis too. Nice. Doesn't that sound like a cover up?

@@Rays_K Only to people that do not understand how immunity works

Glad to hear she's doing okay.

That will never happen. This guy loves himself

This dudes a clown

Seriously! He’s framing his stories for max virtue signaling to his listeners. This Pakman guy is treating Rogan like he’s a blue ghost lol

Cause fk Joe Rogan, that's why.

You won't like HULK when he get mad..... lol

I'm still waiting for my powers of magnetism. I am disappointed.

I'm waiting to get my third eye that they said I would get from the vaccine

My washing machine broke the day after my booster shot.

Wow! I heard about you on a recent podcast! Congratulations on getting published? Is it true?

Exactly I trust big corporations more now.

If your counting on the person who created the virus (dr fauci) to give you medical advice then you get what you deserve

He should stop offering it then

@@queenofqueens697 lmao what

@@queenofqueens697 🤣🤣 get the Charles Darwin award please

Oh no, let’s not ask valid and critical questions like this. People might think you’re a conspiracy theorist.

Do you have any context? this just randomly appeared on my feed. Thanks

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@@darcie7773 the study showed in this video wasn't really correct so Joe is actually still right

@@mymaster416 ohh kay thanks

Guys it doesn't matter If it's true that you are at greater risk of myocarditis if you catch covid then i will still choose not to get vaccinated because at the end of the day even if you are vaccinated you will still catch the virus.. got my point? Foolishness overload for people who are so much stock to the idea that the vaccine is the only way..🤦

@@givelobster6750 assuming that you will catch the virus no matter what, wouldn’t you rather catch the virus after having been vaccinated and then only catching a mild version rather than the much much worse version of the virus from having no vaccine shots at all?

@@givelobster6750 got your point, it’s just wrong. The small risk of getting myocarditis from the vaccine has been a main talking point of the anti-vaccine position. It’s an asinine argument considering the risk is GREATER WITH A COVID INFECTION. Your assertion that since getting COVID is likely anyway, vaccinations are not worth it is also false, as most infections requiring hospitalization are the patients who are unvaccinated.

Joe is the calm version of Alex Jones

joe rogan bad

Joe was just looking for an excuse to try some horse meds

link please

Umm, yeah. Link to that “statement”?

It's true guys...he admitted to it..it's easy to look up.

@@dukeblair7792 So it's so easy to look up yet no one is reporting on it?

Actually he was caught unprepared to this (new) old info. There is a better paper published in nature in December with more data, less biais that says the opposite of what Josh says… so may be Rogan not so wrong in his beliefs /understanding, just not a specialist that needs time and contradictory debate to firm up his mind. In this case, because he thought he might be wrong, he accepted the possibility of being wrong. True journalism would go beyond, search for more info especially the latest available and then ask experts of different opinions for their analysis. There has been tons of BS papers lately with a lot of cherry picking to prove one thing or the opposite. Data analysis is hard, especially when data is insufficient and of poor quality.

Let's not forget Joe Rogan believed we never landed on the moon and thinks Canadians come to the US to get healthcare. People take him way too seriously... Joe is very good at articulating his feelings on issues and how things relate in his mind. I really do think he means well and is a thoughtful person... and a person with many talents... but he is NOT that technically smart of a dude. Listen to him talk about actual science or medical theory or political policies and you can see he is in over his head. I feel kind of bad for him in way because he is just an average dude who likes working out and grilling meat at his core, but now he has to be like this leading voice of reason who can't offend anyone or take sides. I think he just needs to be careful, he is feeding into the extreme anti-vax echo-chamber more than I think he realizes or intends to and people will take what they want from that as reassurance that they are correct. I definitely dont think the vaccine is the end all be all of answers for covid, nor do I support forcing it on people, but it is definitely an effective, important tool that I think people should utilize and it DOES protect people against covid. It's also free. Joe can afford hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of treatments. Most of his followers cant.

@@foskco87 Good comment 👍

@@foskco87 When did he come out and say we didn't land on the moon? I remember distinctively that he called out Eddie for that shit he did a 180 on us like that?

@@foskco87 Most Canadians who can afford it do go the US to get serious medical procedures done (cancer treatments, surgeries, ect)

@@Gum_Cuzzler - America has the best medical care money can buy. If you have the money. And unfortunately, most Americans don't. Healthcare by the wealthy, for the wealthy, is not good public policy.

This is exactly how brainwashed cult members react to being corrected on their beliefs. It is both fascinating and horrifying to see how deeply someone like Rogan has descended into the cult madness.

The downward spiral of Rogan and Lindell have been the more interesting developments of the last 2 years. Lindell currently has the evidence to put 300 million people in jail for life, so watch out guys.

Once covid and vaccines became a culture war issue facts doesnt really matter anymore. If you promote vaccines you are on "team big pharma" and thats enough to sway a lot of people to be on the opposing "team covid"

@@daveruda Who do they think makes ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies?

@@kronosx7 Oh yeah we are all going to the slammer, babies and all

Yeah, because who funds studies is of no importance at all.

@@HondoTrailside strawmanning is another one of Joe’s favorites. I see you’re a fan

Yeah, what the hell is Joe questioning things!

And then@@drstone6798chimes in and proves your point.

@Donna Lemon so you take some Chad that would dare people to eat pig testes on TV seriously?

Same can be said about whoopi Goldberg

Because he's thinking for himself and is a threat to their agenda and he may cause others to think for themselves rather than being blind sheeple 🐑 like yourself 🤷

@@joejoemorechrist6886 sarcasm?

@@joejoemorechrist6886 The world is going through a pandemic not a wrestling match 😅🤣😂

Well said

I think he's striving to be another Alex Jones.

Good, he was always a jackass.

Sadly me too!!

Yeah he used to challenge guest’s claims with logic before he adopted things as facts. Now he is much easier to manipulate with false information. Idk what happened, I still enjoy his show occasionally as he gets some interesting guests that are non political, but I hate giving him any views anymore.

Lmao, it's not real scrutiny if you don't really do exhaustive research (which Rogan clearly hasn't or he would have known this), and only try to find ways to confirm your original bias since you've dug your heels in so far and don't want to look like a jackass (aka all of what Rogan has been doing, and what his audience does when someone with authority on a subject corrects Rogan on something they all bought that he said, like you from the sound of it...)

@@dh1148ify This is incorrect. There are legitimate studies that contradict what this guy is saying. There are also legitimate studies that support what he is saying. People seem to be unaware that contradicting studies are very common in the field of medicine, especially for new treatments & viruses. The logical thing to do is scrutinize each study and see what factors/variables could have lead to conflicting results with an open discussion. Then retest & continue to do so until the data consistently aligns with the hypothesis. The emotional thing to do is to make this a partisan issue & dismiss legitimate data just because it doesn’t align with the message your political party pushes. Medical treatments shouldn’t be a partisan issue. 90+% of the population has been brainwashed into believing they have to pick a side at one extreme or the other.

Agreed. And, it's oddly satisfying to me registering the irony that so many people in these comments are vilifying Joe personally rather than speaking to any specific piece of information that they disagree with. Commenters presume to be rational but the bulk of their chiming-in is little more than ad hominem, false dichotomy, red herring, guilt by association, etc. You know we're all in big trouble when those who offer nothing but fallacy-based comment believe themselves to be rationally grounded.

The fact is the latest studies show Joe is right about this issue. Many articles show the vaccine myocaditis is worse than getting it for covid.

@@rjlee818 if you could put a link to those studies…it would be helpful. And thank you for seeing my point. But to clarify it …much of science isn’t as conclusive as we like to think especially in the midst of an emerging event…that isn’t to say it isn’t ever conclusive but a healthy dose of questioning is necessary for the process to arrive at some approximation of the truth which can reach impressive level of precision much of the time. But often we are wading through many studies that say very different things…all most non-scientist like me or Rogan or for that matter Pakman can do is defer to expert opinions (which don’t always coincide), personal discretion (which is a very imperfect but personalized set of standards that resist quick, easy shifts of opinions) and due diligence (which is irregular or non existent at best for most normal people who don’t have time to sift through all information). It is a messy process and letting people go through it on their own without bad mouthing them is my MO. By the way, I watched this episode of Rogan and the the guest, Josh Szeps, has been on his show more than 6 times over the past year….Rogan is talking to him like a friend and kicking around ideas and questions…I think David is a little disingenuous in his presentation of the clip. And contrary to the “take that” culture created by our media…Joe even said that reflecting on that conversation he really wasn’t prepared to talk about that issue, which means he would have wanted to prepare better to have a more quality conversation and make better points….instead he improvised it and the results were mixed….which is refreshing to hear from people…the media never do that and instead they double down on whatever narrative they invested in…so we need more people like Rogan…stop shaming him because he doesn’t always have perfect knowledge or officially sanctioned opinions, he has a right to be that way. Nobody who is a fan of him consider him an expert on anything outside of comedy and MMA. And that is why people like him…he’s not pretentious and he has some amazing guests and conversations.

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It's getting more and more difficult to deny, ain't it?

Exactly. I'm not a doctor, but it looks like they're trying to retrofit the recent (last one year) spike in myocarditis incidence to the disease starting two year ago, though the myocarditis cases came to the forefront a year later (starting early-mid 2021) shortly after a certain something came onto the scene.

@@johnalexir7634 Oh my god, it must be the vaccine!!!!!! Are you being serious?

@@Milkmans_Son I am being serious that it well COULD be the vaccine, but that possibility is not generally explored in the MSM. It's so heavily avoided (or else ridiculed or quickly dismissed) that it's hard for me to not suspect that it's at least possible that something more is going on that they don't want us (the public) to know. Am I certain? No. Do I have serious doubts we're being dealt with honestly by govt and media? Yes.

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I keep trying to post a recent study that contradicts this video and it keeps getting deleted....

Probably because it’s a bullshit non peer reviewed study from some random website you got from google or your Facebook comments. Or they don’t allow links in their comments. Either way no one here cares about the anti vax propaganda here. Take your pro covid comments elsewhere

@@mbgal7758 nature medicine is non-peer reviewed and bullshit? Interesting.

@@mbgal7758 who said anyone is anti vaccine? That was a stupid statement. We just like vaccines that work.

I tried to reply to you with a link to an amazon page for the purchase of an electric bass guitar and it disappeared. Care to tell who might be conspiring against bass guitars?