I typed "80-year-old that weighs 13 pounds" into Google and now I'm on a government watch list. Thanks, Joe.
@djquiksilva4 жыл бұрын
M McBride ... 😳 Maybe because you typed 80 pound 13 year old? 🤔😏🤣
@kingbrutusxxvi4 жыл бұрын
@@djquiksilva Give me some credit... I don't like them that fat. ;-)
@djquiksilva4 жыл бұрын
M McBride ... Sorry, my bad...I shouldn’t have assumed 😆
@nonblackdark66064 жыл бұрын
DJQuikSilva I don’t know to laugh or cry
@jguinto1014 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@dbalcita13314 жыл бұрын
Finally. Judo gets a little credit and recognition! While i understand that brazilians took the ground work and added and tweaked and solely focused on that, many of the moves came from judo and in my opinion judo is a underestimated art. Its pretty complete as it involves standing.
@IDvfy4 жыл бұрын
Thought it was japanese jiu jitsu
@dbalcita13314 жыл бұрын
@aeternak- I am aware that judo cane from japanese jui jitsu. However judo took the grappling elements and made it a sport friendly art. Well, in doing so, judo evolved and got stronger.
@vlada4 жыл бұрын
@@dbalcita1331 Kano took the grappling AND standup, not just grappling to save the dying art of jiujitsu. But it was also the forming of curriculum, the emphasis of teaching, introducing judogis, black/white belts (not colours) and specifically the introduction of randori with safe techniques to stop jiujitsu practitioners from injuring/killing each other as was common in jj. That last one was the game changer which stopped jiujitsu from dying out.
@zandertor68134 жыл бұрын
Judo would be better in a street fight
@IDvfy4 жыл бұрын
@@dbalcita1331 Hi I was referring to how BJJ came from japanese jiu jitsu is what I always heard, now I am hearing it come from judo? interesting.
@thedesertsux5 жыл бұрын
Many people think Brazilians invented these arm bars triangles and chokes it’s hilarious
@matenegye85704 жыл бұрын
They never invented,they perfected
@silkplayer94 жыл бұрын
Matene Gye tell me how they “perfectED” them???
@krzysiek23234 жыл бұрын
@@silkplayer9 Judo was from standing to ground mostly with little emphasis on submissions. I mean they were there but having a tap is not a ultimate goal in judo. Brazilians made it more practical in a sense that the ultimate goal is to tap someone (eg. and this way many throws where you expose your back are not used). Also they modified it to include strike defense.
@silkplayer94 жыл бұрын
Krzysiek “include strike deFenSe” are you sure dude watch old footages of Kodokan and traditional Jujutsu to what real footwork and defense look like. MODERN Judo heavily rely on throw yes but again please watch some videos about old school Judo + Kosen Judo to see more ground works. Those cracies did a good expand the system to the world no one ever deny that but please tell them to remember who they LEARNT the art from.
@silkplayer94 жыл бұрын
Tim everyone say they’re black belt in sort but very few truly able to prove themselves. Do you know how many “BLackbelted” mcdojo in the world right now?
@stevezy47724 жыл бұрын
The Olympics changed Judo to what it is today. Throws took emphasis, newaza became secondary.
@fable52144 жыл бұрын
Abel Moreno You’re right in big tournaments they are rarely on the ground anymore Ref always stands us up too soon
@robertnewell40544 жыл бұрын
@Abel Moreno ..... The same thing happened to CATCH AS CATCH CAN WRESTLING. They eliminated all chokes, strangles & joint locks. Many of what people call BJJ are using moves long in the CACC Arsenal
@m5a1stuart834 жыл бұрын
With 3 seconds to attack in Newaza, Judoka may have strong power and techniques to pin someone. Just look at Travis Stevens and Koji Komuro. Both are good Judo and BJJ.
@stevezy47724 жыл бұрын
Neji Hyuuga Stevens trains with Renzo’s crew. Pinning is a good technique but is only a part of newaza. Judo turned into a sport with rules and regulations. Just like BJJ. Train in both. Both arts will be better for it.
@m5a1stuart834 жыл бұрын
@@stevezy4772 yes but BJJ far more expensive than Judo. Both are good for sure.
@darylfields4 жыл бұрын
Finally judo is getting respect
@camilomontoya74124 жыл бұрын
in the US sure, in the rest of the world Judo is king, judo is more popular than bjj in Brazil! lol
@darylfields4 жыл бұрын
@@camilomontoya7412 Are you sure
@eirdofkoda4 жыл бұрын
@@darylfields Judo is huge in other countries. Not in the US for some reason, though we still have a fair amount of schools. They are being supplanted by BJJ schools though. But yeah. Judo competitions in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia draw big crowds.
@nattybynature12624 жыл бұрын
Judo, in many countries, is what's taught to the police. One of the most effective and respected martial arts there is.
@davidgrove62104 жыл бұрын
The Gracies did not perfect Jiu Jitsu. Watch the early days of the UFC. BJJ was the exact same. All their moves were the exact same. It's funny how the Gracies put their name on Jiu Jitsu once Maeda died. Gracie Jiu Jitsu?! The Brazilians knew it was BS, so they were outraged about renaming it JJ to GJJ. The UFC changed BJJ. They incorporated it with other fighting arts (wrestling, sambo, pancreas, etc). It became mainstream and people started perfecting/modifying it.. not the Gracies. Ex: Eddie Bravo's rubber gaurd
@marcuscopley1314 жыл бұрын
I never understood there are so many techniques in Judo I always thought it was throws trips and sweeps. Wow this footage is incredible.
@PierceSunderseatsRAMEN2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a guy at the bar ask me about judo. I told him it depends on what your teacher is trying to accomplish with you. If your teacher is trying to turn out champions then you’re going to get spot judo. If the guy is trying to teach self defense it’s much different, and closer to that Aikido side where you’re doing things that are super dangerous. Judo is a martial art, not a sport. Sportification came second, which is wonderful to be fair but it’s still secondary.
@user-sm4qy8yc2r Жыл бұрын
Judo is a comprehensive martial art.
@SKgyebaek4 жыл бұрын
The olympics ruined judo by getting rid of leg grabs and downplaying newaza.
@Kitajima24 жыл бұрын
I agree. There are still judoka in Japan who are trying bring the old rules back.
@bruceparker61424 жыл бұрын
Kosen rules never died.
@paulsdrc4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t the olympics it was the IJF, used to be a pin was 30 seconds of control, all or nothing. Now control for 10 seconds for Wazari, 20 seconds for Ippon.
@SKgyebaek4 жыл бұрын
@@paulsdrc that rule was pretty useless since the majority who get the pin for 10 seconds pretty much all hold on to it for ipon
@bertillyngelavrsen5854 жыл бұрын
Im am judoka on much high level and is almost professional and i am qualified for youth european championships. I wil say judo is more a sport as wrestling becuse thats most fun. Newaza is very boring and gay and that is why no-one makes it so much. I you fight judo with old rules wil you see that it is very boring og defensive. That is why if you want to learn to deffende yourself go to MMA istead. Old rules are for old men who meke judo manny years back becuse they saw chagi-chan movie and got a yellow belt
@EduardoRodriguez-ks4em4 жыл бұрын
Many odd things about Sensei Kyuso Mifune, BJJ and Maeda: at Kodokan, Mifune was a top instructor. In Brazil, we don't call it Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, we simply call it Jiu Jitsu. There are many dojos in Brazil, teaching Maeda Judo. Yes, the Gracies are warriors, but they were defeated by Catch Wrestlers, or other jiu jitsuka, like Luis Oswaldo Fadda.
@davidgrove6210 Жыл бұрын
Witnesses say Fadda's crew beat the Gracies. Here's the dirty story on the Gracies. When Maeda passed away, the Gracies put their names all over the art. They charged an arm and a leg to teach. Fadda's crew taught everyone. Many for free. Brazilians were outraged with the Gracie Jiu Jitsu name and eventually renamed it to Brazilians Jiu Jitsu. My wifes family is from Brazil. They recall the same story. The early years of the UFC showed zero differences between GJJ and Kano Judo (or some would say Kano JuJutsu). The art evolved due to the UFC (other grappling techniques being added from other arts such as wrestling). The Gracies are dirty for taking all the credit. They called Sakuraba the Gracie killer for a reason
@Leopar525 Жыл бұрын
Well let’s not forget Kimura that was so much better than Helio Gracie that was playing with him like a rag doll
@KrutiperoCZ11 ай бұрын
@@Leopar525 Let's not forget Gracies' jumping wrestlers in the back alleys after the match.
@fakeyf24 жыл бұрын
Real Judo is no joke. In the very early days of organized Judo matches judoka were regularly crippled or killed and they had to ban many techniques.
@abyssmanur39654 жыл бұрын
Flying scissor takedown :)
@mpforeverunlimited4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the new rules are better then
@za.monolit3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. My sensei told me how back the, when people would defend from rear chokes, many would end up getting their jaws broken from planting their chins on their chest for defense.
@Rombizio2 жыл бұрын
Mifune was beyond incredible. And judo really is extremely effective at this level of technique. I have seen these videos for 25 years now and it always amazes me how relaxed he is.
@Turco9494 жыл бұрын
Having practiced Judo for a few years under a good "master", I thoroughly enjoyed this video! The old school discipline was actually more "rough" compared to Olympic Judo where you actually use powerful quick tap like slaps in the neck of the opponent when you are setting up a suitable throw. That way, the opponent is momentarily disoriented and easier to pull into the throw. Losing to smaller, lighter weight but way more skilled opponents was a very humbling experience for me but also very educational.
@Mike_LaFontaine753 жыл бұрын
Yes, have you seen what passes for an ippon nowadays? It used to require 'with force' now they get ippons if they roll uke over on his back. Wazari at best in old school.
@Turco9493 жыл бұрын
@@Mike_LaFontaine75 Yup, most MAs seem very "watered down" these days.
@TheGooinureye5 жыл бұрын
Awesome how Joe knows the history of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu came from Judo.
@KPho1505 жыл бұрын
I think at this point everybody know that...
@wesleyhines40815 жыл бұрын
@@KPho150 everyone except for the Gracies :/
@TheKinesiologist15 жыл бұрын
well no, gracies didnt change much of anything. the original syllabus is kosen judo. the only real innovator, in my opinion, is bravo.
How humbling to have the honor of being g able to view such prestigious footage of Judo in such a primitive form. Truly truly fortunate that the technology at the time allowed this to happen. Ossu!
@siddislikesgoogle4 жыл бұрын
The cool thing about that demo, is the master throws the students with a different technique each time, and throws them successfully, on the first attempt. Amazing.
@ethancntower88504 жыл бұрын
This old dude looks like a gentle breeze could knock him over. Never underestimate your opponent..
@WakeSideLife4 жыл бұрын
I am not taking away from that man at all. His technique is truly flawless but those men are willing participants who could absolutely send him for a ride were they willing to be so disrespectful. I'm surprised Joe, being as addicted to watching fake martial arts videos as he is, can't recognize a Uke selling the throw. Even in BJJ where the entire point of innovation was to reduce the advantage of the larger opponent there is a size and strength gap that becomes untenable.
@tonyattardo93504 жыл бұрын
Hipii I Yes it’s a demonstration, but the efficacy of technique is really unbelievable. My BJJ school has a Maeda picture at the top of our pyramid on the wall. Yes equal size, strength, and relative technique favors the bigger guy, but one of our top black belts is 5’9” 140 lbs, dresses like a substitute teacher, and runs circles around beastly green berets and door kicking cops who are brown/black belts. A giant old cranky black belt who I’ve never come close to submitting once described him as a “wet watermelon seed”, can’t get a hold of him and sooner or later he gets his whole body against one limb and it’s over. Levels.
@88feji4 жыл бұрын
Why do people still believe in these "old master beating big young men" bullshits ??? Don't believe in such propaganda videos untill you see the "old judo master" beating aggressive trained outsiders who are there to really win without respect. All these "old master" videos are made with students who really believe he is powerful, as we see with the "no touch" masters, the students psyche themselves out of winning during fights with the old master ... its the same with this old judo master.
@DylanZapf-dm4mh4 жыл бұрын
Hipii That’s what you think. I’m sure even at 74 and decrepit, he could still defeat these men if they so chose to fight him seriously.
@DylanZapf-dm4mh4 жыл бұрын
88feji you would normally be correct. this however, is not the case. find out who this man is, and you’ll understand the error in calling this video “bullshit”. this old man is the real deal.
@damienholland92444 жыл бұрын
I knew an old guy who had been doing Jujitsu since age 3 or whatever. It was in The Netherlands. Up to that point I had about 10 years of experience in Jujitsu with a little bit in Judo. I couldn't grapple him at all. He was way too technically advanced and it didn't matter what I did I always was in a new painful lock somehow.
@blusuck4 жыл бұрын
Judo and catch. The real origins of what we all love today
@garywilliamson18594 жыл бұрын
Mifune's techniques are truly amazing even for a much younger judoka. I can see why he was called the God of Judo. Thanks for the video. It's great!
@guilhermeferreira82884 жыл бұрын
The man who really made the level of Judô/jiu-jitsu grows in Brazil, in Rio de Janeiro was George Medhi, he did lived lived in Japan practicing in Tenry university for years and when he came back to Brazil he opened his School and noboby was good, strong and have the knoledge he haved.
@chrismason913 жыл бұрын
Those escapes and counters were amazing!!
@drutgat25 жыл бұрын
The film of Sensei Mifune was really interesting. Thanks for posting.
@mikeysan01 Жыл бұрын
It is great to see Mifune Sensei get some well-deserved recognition!!!
@derekxiaoEvanescentBliss7 ай бұрын
mifune is also a god at feints. if you slow down the video a lot, his throws are timed off of a reaction to a preceding feint that essentially tricks the opponent to jump into his intended throw. shits insane.
@fiftyfadesofgrey4 жыл бұрын
Like Chris Haueter said. We’re practicing an art which is Japanese origin, brazilian modified, and now American influenced jiujitsu. Which includes wrestling etc. it is has now evolved to mix now and what works in grappling.
@JardoniJovonovich4 жыл бұрын
Mifune.... old dude. Gracie's perfected nothing. Mifune, Oda , kawaishi , Aida would've tied Helio into a knot anytime they wanted too. Pre ww2 Judo was a complete martial art with devastating Atemi.
@peterbartolomeo55424 жыл бұрын
1924 and before it was brutal
@willbower76173 жыл бұрын
How do you learn more about techniques that are lost in most classes?
@MK-vi2cm3 жыл бұрын
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@gregallen90654 жыл бұрын
Such a high level of Judo demonstrated there. Miss my days of rolling with people.
@redstaplerguyforlifepastpr57634 жыл бұрын
What happened ? Was it the Corona? I got some in the other day, I was worried about the Corona closing down the dojo. Glad it didn't
@nurd57764 жыл бұрын
You can tell the creator of the video truly respects Judo and the history of it. I only did Judo for 6 years but now looking at it, I really want to come back to it, incorporating some of my boxing and maybe learn more forms in the future
@fightfannerd20784 жыл бұрын
every submission finish in MMA is from Judo lets get it right
@ray.n_l4 жыл бұрын
I mean there's also Catch Wrestling
@fightfannerd20784 жыл бұрын
@@ray.n_l some of it yeah
@melvel23543 жыл бұрын
Yeeep!
@NickoGibson3 жыл бұрын
I'd think moves like this have been used throughout time by people who thought a lot about combat. Sometimes they would pass it on, sometimes they would not. "The best techniques are passed on by the survivors" -Gaiden Shinji
@silenciothequiet34714 жыл бұрын
If only they could bring back traditional judo, it is even more relevant in the era of mma.
@Mike_LaFontaine753 жыл бұрын
Freestyle Judo is trying. Support them!
@jmarkalbright4 жыл бұрын
My Judo Sensei Glenn Rogers showed the class a film of this master in 1964 when I was 12. I studied with him for a few years but unfortunately girls, beer and pot just seemed more important. I could pin every wrestler on my high school team and I even new a few karate guys I had no trouble with and I only weighed 135. Wish I had the discipline to stick with judo but at least I learned how to fall and rear choke was one of the first things we learned on the mat along with ground control. Thanks for sharing.
@stuart58114 жыл бұрын
Judo is great-full speed full power
@alfonso3654 жыл бұрын
BJJ = Basically just judo
@stuart58114 жыл бұрын
I met someone that didn't realize jujitsu is Japanese
@feidan62734 жыл бұрын
If BJJ is Judo, then why bbj practitioners always pull guard?
@tyhatfield71564 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Alderson yea I have meet some that don’t think there is DZR Japanese Jujitsu Then in Portuguese there is no word Jujitsu
@Kitajima24 жыл бұрын
@@feidan6273 Because they only care about the ground. Did you watch multiple Gracies get stomped by Sakuraba? Or Kimura tossing Helio around like a ragdoll? Edit: BJJ didn't innovate anything until Eddie Bravo. And maybe that one Gracie in the 80's
@feidan62734 жыл бұрын
David Kitajima Michael Bisping said that BJJ doesn’t work against 2 or more opponents. BJJ doesn’t work in general. Who doesn’t bring a pocket knife nowadays? If anyone takes me down, I will take out my blade and stab him, I don’t care if the judge tells me that it isn’t self defense. Why would anyone want to fight one person when all you have to do is run?
@kraftwerk9744 жыл бұрын
Olympics changed judo from what you see in these images to a purely throwing sports. As it changed Taekwondo from being pure shotokan karate to being a kicking sports.
@gunplaygaming68302 жыл бұрын
strongest dude i ever rolled with was a judoka.
@dirtnap58854 жыл бұрын
No DMT or elk were used in any of this podcast....
@spikesagal Жыл бұрын
Mifune is a true master. I have never seen anyone fight with such skill and grace.
@ryanstewart9394 жыл бұрын
Bjj is just a percentage to approach tactics version of Judo, Judo currently mostly 70-30% Tachi waza(standing) 30 (ne waza) ground. Bjj the other way around, I do both, Bjj brown belt , although there is a longer ground element for sports tactics, the fundamentals of self defence stay pretty similar. Brazilians did not invent anything.
@m5a1stuart834 жыл бұрын
They did invent BJJ to what we know today. They innovate what Judo Newaza was in the old days and focus on it.
@vlada4 жыл бұрын
No way in hell does BJJ do 30% standup. And by standup, they only do single leg and every once in awhile someone teaches an overly complicated roll/takedown combo. The standup is an afterthought like salad at an all you can rat buffet, you put a salad leaf and some corn just for show.
@Dewitt-b8n4 жыл бұрын
He is the difference with ground skills in a street fight. You get put on your back where you as BJJ are at home could get taken away when you hit that concrete. Stand up in a street fight with good judo skills is deadly against a non trained person. But if somehow you get taken down hard without the concrete breaking your hip and back and skull its lights out for your opponent. IMO stay off the ground in a street fight. Western boxing is the required skill for a street fight. Because you don't know what they know and vice versa.
@ryanstewart9394 жыл бұрын
@@vlada Guess its is dependant on where you train, I found in Judo there is always the mix of about 70-30, when doing BJJ your right its mostly ashi harai (foot sweep) uchi mata(inside hip) single double and basic snap down techniques, although the school I attend for BJJ Has takedown specific for bjj classes, I do agree there is no general approach like Judo.
@ryanstewart9394 жыл бұрын
@@m5a1stuart83 they modified the approach, elongating the time on the ground to allow more play (in sport), the techniques remain mostly the same, I would say BJJ has a wider combination of attacks , As judo usually has 1 throw, then proceeding with the best available attack, although in a self defence which Judo was originally designed for, how many combos do you need. I teach BJJ And often say that most of the combos are for sport, although I stand by my original point if you research thoroughly its the approach not the moves Brazil added, which has some benefit , but outside of no gi submission grappling (mainly 10th planet system), and modern footlocking combinations all the ones were already there just the exploration has deepened with time and approach.
@ejlova_92suriname83 жыл бұрын
Every technique in bjj was already invented by jugoro kano. I also do bjj and judo and found an old judo book that already have the bjj technique.
@tacticalcombatfighter2787 Жыл бұрын
Jigoro Kano wasn't invented it. The Techniques already exist in Japanese Ju-jutsu, long before Judo is born.
@TerryAfrica4 жыл бұрын
Damn, just saw all kinds of techniques i thought were created by the brazilians. I was taught by my professor that judo doesn't have back takes, foot locks, guard play guard passes. Wow.respect
@changmark Жыл бұрын
At that age to be so fluid, agile and devastating in terms of those locks is something really marvellous.
@Moodymongul4 жыл бұрын
the last 9 minutes ..Priceless footage!
@stuart58114 жыл бұрын
Judo is a great combat sport-learning how to fall can save your life
@kombijr4 жыл бұрын
I remember training at this dojo and going up against what looked like a seasoned judoka. Man....he had no mercy against me (white belt) and kept striking my Shins. It fucking hurt, but I didn’t show it. Lol moral of the story is Judo isn’t for the faint of heart.
@Snacks0794 жыл бұрын
Haha, tbh he was probably taking it easy on you. Why he was striking your shin is a little weird to me, you would never lose balance if i hit your legs that high. But i still remember my sensei shouting to use all my force when trying to swipe someones legs from under them, so at a certain point you become used to it. He could probably hit you a lot harder, because a trained judoka can hold his balance like no other, so it takes a lot more force (if that is your style) to break that balance. But judo is def not for the faint of heart. I broke my right elbow 3 times, got chocked out multiple times, had many many injuries, and returned the favor many times as well ;)
@Vscustomprinting4 жыл бұрын
@@Snacks079 sounds like a dumb way to train
@angussiegloff52384 жыл бұрын
One of the best black belts in my club kicks your shins till you move your foot into the spot he wants it.
@noneyabusiness69574 жыл бұрын
Hopefully when this Coronavirus deal is over I’ll be going to Pedros Judo club for lessons.....It’s great knowing a great school like that isn’t far away from my home
@noneyabusiness69574 жыл бұрын
W. George If that’s the case hopefully they can figure something out so people can get back to a normal life....I’m already anti social but I’d love to go to a Judo club a few nights a week and train
@lmk28694 жыл бұрын
Made Travis Johnson the way he is.
@Gerald-of-Riviera4 жыл бұрын
W. George doubt
@Slit518 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago when I was taking Taekwondo, we would also learn Hapkido (a Korean martial art which is like a combination of Judo and Akido). Well, one day they had a demonstration that involved this 7th degree black belt, probably around the same age as the gentleman in this video. I was the demonstration person for the man's throws and tosses. And let me tell you, I am 6' and at the time weighed ~175, the gentleman was a good 6 to 8 inches smaller than me, but could toss me around like nothing. That went on for like an hour. Oh yeah, he also applied locks on me as part of the demonstration, too. A real nice guy. He was my master's master.
@johnbravo10344 жыл бұрын
Great to see the lineage of an art showcased like this. I admire these past martial artists; they are our “spiritual” ancestors.
@Charlitos19884 жыл бұрын
3:03 kata guruma at that age is impressive !
@pauldwalker4 жыл бұрын
exactly, even with a willing partner.
@kilobravo43204 жыл бұрын
The Brazilians did not make newaza more technical they just did the same thing their Japanese counter parts did BJJ tarted evolving in very short recent history.
@googleprivacyfilter8480 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video Joe, the escapes were particularly interesting.
@watch-me-fail5 жыл бұрын
Judo has 3 main Technique sections: Nage Waza (Throwing Techniques), Katame Waza / "Ne Waza" (ground / mat techniques), and Atemi Waza (Striking techniques). Brazilian Jiujitsu is a focus on the Katame Waza part of the Judo game. So technically BJJ is Judo. In Brazil it was known as Kano-ryu Jiu Jitsu after Jigoro Kano the founder of Kodokan Judo. Unfortunately, Judo practitioners have advantages over BJJ players: 1. BJJ practitioners do not practice throws / kake / nage waza 2. Judoka practice Ne Waza (not extensively) but can still use strength with knowledge to overcome the superior tactics of a BJJ player. Olympic judoka, focused on winning Olympic competition, do not draw from the depth of Kodokan judo that uses techniques that are outlawed in competition and allowed in many BJJ tournaments like ADCC, ATOS, EBI, etc. If judoka were more focused on the full repertoire truly no BJJ practitioner / player would be a match for them.
@fidelantonioferguson41824 жыл бұрын
Actually all of those techniques originated from jujutsu. Kodokan simply separated the techniques to make it elegant because jujutsu has been abused by street thugs after the dissolution of the samurai.
@nicolastellezriveros44964 жыл бұрын
@@fidelantonioferguson4182 But Gracie's learned from Maeda and he was a Judo guy
@fidelantonioferguson41824 жыл бұрын
@@nicolastellezriveros4496 nope. Maeda was taught the whole aspect of japanese jujutsu. What he was tasked to do was teach judo a subset of jujutsu. He taught the whole aspect of jujutsu to the gracies and the gracies only focused and developed newaza the ground aspect of jujutsu.
@mongolchiuud89314 жыл бұрын
@@fidelantonioferguson4182 According to Maeda's offical bio and records including Maeda's current modernday descendants who run the Conde Koma Judô Clube in belem brazil. Maeda only ever studied "Sumo and later Judo" not Jujutsu(Pre-Meji-Samurai era systems). Also "Judo" is not a subset of Jujutsu. IT IS JUJUTSU....Jujutsu is a general umbrella term for various related and unrelated unarmed grappling systems in Japan and is not a name of a single system or style. Judo is considered the successor system to Kito Ryu Jujutsu. Also groundwork was only developed in 1890s as a counter to Judo by Fusen Ryu headmaster Tanabe Mataemon and his friends at the Handa dojo and is not apart of any Jujutsu system and fully absorbed into Judo which further devleoped modern guardplay. Fun Fact: You can type in ANY traditional Jujutsu System and there will be ZERO ground grappling and ground work is not apart of ANY pre-judo Jujutsu system.
@showmethedammovie4 жыл бұрын
The problem for judo is in its competition. There was no emphasis on learning these things when the points were made earlier on in the match. I. E. Throws trips and pins
@redstaplerguyforlifepastpr57634 жыл бұрын
Damn that Little guy was ahead of his time, absolutely amazing!
@snakething874 жыл бұрын
That footwork was incredible.
@baewuf4 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting standing fireman’s carried by a 80 year old
@igorabdoaguilar93313 жыл бұрын
old school kata guruma, it looks brutal when Mifune did it
@tranlangamingo54094 жыл бұрын
74 y/o pickin niccas up and slamming em down, dangerous person.
@ThePresentation0104 жыл бұрын
Would obviously be a Japanese man.. just makes sense. No other culture or people comes to mind.
@de4dbydesi9n64 жыл бұрын
That was amazing! Thank you for posting.
@Greenman4224 жыл бұрын
Those armbar escapes and reversals are crazy.
@drutgat25 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for posting this.
@MaxSluiman4 жыл бұрын
For your information: (And before someone tries to give bjj the aura of old masters): Maeda did a different form of judo, than Mifune. They were from different generations. Mifune, like judo founder Kano, was concentrating on the FEELING for balance and mental development. Not on using force and concentrating on physical fitness per se. Part of this was not to concentrate on defeating people in matches. Kano said that literally: "It's not about being better than the other person, but being better than yesterday". One can clearly see Mifune having superior feeling for balance, in this famous footage. That kind of judo disappeared when judo became an Olympic sport. Because for young people typically fitness leads quicker to medals than years of developing feeling for balance. Most of Kano's students were older, matured, ex military ju-jutsuka. Ju-jutsu was then mostly very brutal and aimed at destroying people. And not so much about grappling. And when Kano's school won the very brutal ju-jutsu matches at the police academy, against other ju-jutsu schools, all but two matches were won by this one student of Kano: Shiro Saigo. Saigo was a former high ranking student of Sokaku Takeda in Daito Ryu aiki jutsu, who had received only about a year of training from Kano. But he made 'Kano ju-jutsu', Kano and thus Mifune famous. And Saigo left Kano shortly afterwards. Probably having given more than he received. Daito Ryu was very different from the aikido like Daito Ryu of today. It was brutal and, according to Takeda's student Morihei Ueshiba (who turned aiki jutsu into aikido), "inhumane". Maeda (who was of a later generation of Judo than Mifune) concentrated on teaching children. In order to develop the bodies of school children (who, by then, were sitting behind a desk most of the day). Here more power and wrestling were encouraged to develop children's strength. Not the mindful feeling of balance, which is too much to ask of kids without combat experience. Also, to motivate the kids, matches were held. And it was this completely different kind of judo, that Meada taught Gracie. Gracie applied Maeda's 'childrens judo' to grown up combat sports. And this wrestling in judo gi, is what we today call BJJ. Which has little to do with the principles and techniques that Kano and Mifune practiced. Or with ju-jutsu. For 'ju' in ju-jutsu means 'flexible' and in judo it means 'soft'. Neither of which can be found in BJJ.
@MaxSluiman4 жыл бұрын
@@emperorjimmu9941 that's what I read too. Also that Saigo would study cats 'falling' from buildings to improve his ukemi. And as a result he would be able to jump out of any situation.
@Supermomo20074 жыл бұрын
Is it true that hapkido is closer to daito ryu aiki jujutsu?
@huntergrant6520 Жыл бұрын
I use to watched the mifune footage as a kid for hours on repeat. Trying to throw mifune was like throwing an empty gi.
@kirstencarpenter663 Жыл бұрын
I liked how he countered the arm bar at the end that was slick
@darcyfox25755 жыл бұрын
i love the footy of mifune and i found it through rogan. perfect vid boii
@WagonWheeI5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJqAjbiUyqqYYKs.html
@riggsmurtah27884 жыл бұрын
Grappling is life
@widehotep9257 Жыл бұрын
Mayeda taught the Gracies "Kosen" which was a derivative of Juda focusing on the ground game and submissions rather than throws from the standing position.
@rutgerdelang17204 жыл бұрын
Trying to make the martial art of judo a spectators sport and failing at that, the modern olympic game is but a shadow of what judo once was. You’re not even allowed to grab a leg anymore. It’s ridiculous. Happy to say my competition days were in a time where competition was closer to the original art form.
@captainawsomeface4 жыл бұрын
Cool to hear Joe talking about judo but got to disagree with him about the Mifune clip. The students are definitely not going 100%, Mifune was certainly a great judoka but he is like 80 years old in the clip, what is going on is a polite randori session where the students are allowing him to work his technique (which is obvs amazing)
@CombatLifeSoft4 жыл бұрын
Agree, especially as the cameras are on and the whole point of the filming is to preserve footage of Mifune's Judo. Wish there was the same for other pioneers like Tomita and Kano himself.
@useridwitheld49344 жыл бұрын
Exactly wouldnt have posted if I would have read your spot on conclusion first
@pauldwalker4 жыл бұрын
Well, of course they are not going 100%. That doesn't change the fact that his throws are real and demonstrate what is damn near perfect technique. Even if your partner is being respectful and willing, it still requires an incredible amount of skill to pull it off as smoothly as Master Mifune did.
@captainawsomeface4 жыл бұрын
@@pauldwalker yeah that's literally what I was saying...
@pauldwalker4 жыл бұрын
captainawsomeface you get it.
@ReisterJP5 жыл бұрын
look up the judoka Tsunetane Oda next.
@ReisterJP4 жыл бұрын
@@emperorjimmu9941 hahaha i can see it. "bjj is actually culturally appropriating judo. I don't even know what's real anymore!"
@josephjohnson83538 ай бұрын
Mifune was the epitome of Judo.
@adrianescamilla35734 жыл бұрын
Incredible Video, last seconds of the video was legendary.
@StevenIuele985 жыл бұрын
Very interesting channel! You deserve more subs man, so much good judo content on here
@CombatLifeSoft5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven!
@pgskills4 жыл бұрын
K. Not downing the skill and power on display, but this isn't full resistance or randori. It's a demo. Sure, the guy's students aren't going to do a triple-Lindy somersault to sell the throws, a la most aikido demos, but they're consciously resisting only to a minimal or handicapped degree. The simple technique of throwing someone is all about leverage, angle, and relative levels and directions of force being applied. That 'relative levels of force' aspect obviously applies if you're talking about throwing someone bigger than you. But it doesn't apply as significantly as the leverage and angle. The ukes in demos like this are consciously stopping themselves from reacting naturally to change the angle and leverage, i.e.; they're 'resisting' from the exact angle the technique is meant to be executed. Basically they're allowing the master to demonstrate that you can't just muscle through to defeat these throws. Being able to actually 'catch' someone with throws like these and execute them fully involves all those things (leverage, angle, force and directions) AND timing/explosiveness. And even then a skilled knowledgeable defender will at least hamper the results most of the time and bring you down with them or elbow you in the head on the way down. That's why you almost NEVER see crisp, clean sweeps and throws in high level MT or MMA. That's why those takedowns/trips that totally send someone flying to the ground make the all-time highlight reel. Rousey was able to get off some spectacular throws in her career because many of her opponents were just not that skilled and/or were so scared of going to the ground and getting arm-barred that they limited their reactions and tried to just muscle their way out of the throw/hold and, (go figure!), good technique is good because you can't just muscle out of it. Being an uke in a TMA like aikijutsu, judo,or other arts involving chin na (jointlocks and throws) is a strange role to play, TBH. There are always unwritten rules regarding showing proper respect and deference when the master is trying to demonstrate a technique with you. Even when you're told to 'resist' there are very obvious restrictions to the term, often hazily defined. You'll get masters who don't think the technique is properly executed/demonstrated unless/until the uke is tapping out writhing in pain or slamming into the ground at Mach 2. Those ukes can then consciously or subconsciously choose to 'resist' less and less so they'll play up the pain reaction faster or propel themselves into a proper breakfall or rollout in order to minimize the risk of injury to themselves. This then gradually evolves into the aikido-type demos that look more like choreographed dancing. As someone with some years put in practicing those kinds of arts, it's a weird dynamic most of the time, in my experience. Some masters do understand and teach the proper way to navigate the dynamics of such a demo in a way that maximizes its instructive value and this judo master is obviously one of those who knew how to do that and passed it along to his students. Most of these guys are showing an excellent understanding of how to be a proper uke, resisting just enough and in the certain way to show how the technique would go down optimally. I doubt either the master or his students really thought of it as some sort of spontaneous/sparring/randori scenario.
@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, full of information and demonstration of Judo BJJ lock interlacing.. thank you.
@dcltaylor Жыл бұрын
They used to say that fighting Mifune was like fighting an empty jacket.
@kalijasin5 жыл бұрын
Khabib Nurmagomedov is a judo black belt.
@garichar4 жыл бұрын
He's a muslim
@OkurkaBinLadin4 жыл бұрын
@@garichar So?
@garichar4 жыл бұрын
@@OkurkaBinLadin Exactly
@rashidskh4 жыл бұрын
Joe, my friend, there's no perfection to Judo.. Judo is already perfect... BJJ is just ne-waza part of Judo with some Brazilian NOISE.
@y.tomohiro9524 жыл бұрын
Tge judo in the past was perfect, the current judo is not, because of all the BS rules they made.
@accadueoaccadueo9454 жыл бұрын
Yeah let's see... I bet if you pick any top judoka and I pick any world class bjj Black belt , there's no way the judoka can win in a grappling match. That's why judoka play judo and bjj practicioners play bjj. Stop making these ridicolous arguments.
@alfzacharias78784 жыл бұрын
@@accadueoaccadueo945 Well, Hélio Gracie got his ass handed to him by Masahiko Kimura. Ridiculous argument? I think not...
@rafchez1970 Жыл бұрын
Would’ve love to see helio Gracie vs this old master doing a friendly roll at equal ages in their golden years. Just amazing that would be seeing true masters rolling. Not hurting each other.
@chorinu76094 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I read somewhere about throw mastery and the many slight differences progessing through levels of difficulty. In old times, if I remember right, one had to demonstrate perfect form in all throws in order to challenge the Master of a dojo.
@PoeticSonic4 жыл бұрын
Just like the gracies went in depth into the ground aspect and named it jiu jitsu, Eddie bravo went in depth into the style of fighting without gi which is a big difference, yet even though he still gave a lot of props for the gracies for how he made the techniques, the jiu jujitsu gave him shit for years. Especially when he won one of their best fighters in the biggest tournament in jujitsu TWICE. Most of the techniques used in the MMA is based on 10th planet system of jiujitsu.
@wildcat317724 жыл бұрын
"Most of the techniques used in the MMA is based on 10th planet system of jiujitsu." not true, literally at all. he didn't event "lockdown' or whatever. Rubber guard is barely used (and was a thing before eddie named it) and when it is used, nothing really comes from it. Twister has been successful maybe twice. 10th planet relies on a physical trait (flexibility). Eddie beat Royler a long ass time ago, and he's ridden that into what he has going on now. After Royler he did fuck all in any competition afaik.
@PoeticSonic4 жыл бұрын
@@wildcat31772 by system I meant the focus on the higher part of the body which wasn't in of jiujitsu, I used 10th planet as an example because they where from the first few if not the first to start training in jiu jitsu with no gi. Many of the techniques that uses the manipulates the gi in jiujitsu is taken off the table right away in mma, now add the supplementary techniques that depend a lot on catching on something which doesn't work as well in mma because your legs easily slip off do to sweat. And that needed to accounted for.
@tcomizij50622 жыл бұрын
In case you think this, the Gracies didn't coin the term "jiujitsu", or were even the ones to originally call their style "jiujitsu." To my knowledge, 'jiujitsu' is simply a romanization of the Japanese 柔術 , a term which has existed for centuries and which simply means ~"gentle art" (other romanizations include Jujutsu, or Ju-Jitsu). As a matter of fact, when Judo first came into the sphere, it was originally commonly known as "Kano Jiujitsu", while Kano would insist on calling it 'Judo' (due to the difference in etymology which he perceived to be important). As with "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" being the named adopted by the Gracies. To quote master Magalhaes, "Well, there is no American, Brazilian, Japanese, Russian, Planet or any other name. *There is only Jiu-Jitsu!* If these people don’t know, until the art exploded in the US, Brazil, Europe, Japan and other places the art was called Ju Jitsu or Jiu-Jitsu. It was in _here,_ in the US, that people started to brand it that way. Back in *Brazil,* we never said we practice _'Jiu-Jitsu Brasilero'._ It was Jiu-Jitsu. Period.” (emphasis mine)
@spearfishingmozambiquesouth4 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I wonder what was invented in Brasil, with all respect, I only see leverage in all the technics.
@lutador134 жыл бұрын
Rogan says Aikido guys just give in. It’s because they don’t want to get their wrists or other joints broken.
@jrcogburn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@machinegunmcgurn12034 жыл бұрын
Everything in Brazilian jujitsu came from Japanese jujitsu.
@MrPhilharmonica14 жыл бұрын
Judo came from Jiu Jitsu. In 1882 Jigoro Kano took many techniques from Jiu Jitsu and created Judo. Jiu Jitsu lost some of it appeal with Judo's popularity. Jiu Jitsu as an art is older. Todays BJJ, yes it is highly influenced by Judo as many illegal fights were organized by the elder Gracie. He fought with the great Kimura from Japan when it was illegal for a Judoka to participate in MMA fights . Kimura was penalized by not getting higher ranks for years. He was forgiven years later I believe. One of the techinques lost in the sport was leg/ankle locks due to their injurious nature.
@sylver76 Жыл бұрын
"Ju Jutsu" was not one art that Judo inherited from. There were many ju jutsu ryu, some of them specializing on weaponry and such. Each had their own set of techniques. Judo was refined from several of these martial arts, taking some techniques from each and ditching the rest. Ju Jutsu ryu had a very poor reputation in Japanese society and were on the brink of disappearing when Kano began his martial journey, and when he elaborated Judo, many of these ryu entrusted him with their manuals so that something would get passed on. BJJ wasn't "influenced" by Judo. Judo is what the Gracie learned from Count Maeda who learned Judo from Kano. There is no direct link between Japanese Ju Jutsu and BJJ, the Gracie learned Judo, not Ju Jutsu. However, because Judo was still known as "Kano ju jutsu" around that time, the Gracie called their variation "Gracie Ju Jutsu".
@trainerd14 жыл бұрын
It’s Mifune and the guys attacking him are all 8th dan and above.
@jayephbee4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I love all grappling.
@apex98414 жыл бұрын
How does his wife hug him without expecting to get her back snapped?
@ohayosumodayton12264 жыл бұрын
Sadly many judoka don't train traditional judo thanks to the Olympics making technique illegal in tournament. So now, they train according to the rules.
@aikibaby2 жыл бұрын
Joe, I was live-in student of Mifune’s live-in student. The guy you say is probably a black belt was probably 5th or 6th degree. All those guys in God of Judo were highly ranked and exceedingly strong. The founder of judo sent my teacher to learn AIKDO in 1929. Why do you think that was? Jigoro Kano (Mifune’s teacher) saw AIKIDO and said “This is my ideal budo” and sent Minoru Mochizuki, my teacher, to learn that art. He was assistant in teaching aiki at the Japanese Naval Academy in 1929-30. Why do you think the Japanese military was teaching AIKIDO before the invasion of China?
@teovu5557 Жыл бұрын
Kano sent his students to study many systems of Jujutsu to add to his system. He liked certain aspects and physophy of movement in Aikido was never said it was his ideal budo lol in fact he said he didnt like that it had no live training against a resisting opponent and couldnt spar live which made it a weak.(modern Aikido started doing live sparring and it looks aweful and they have been losing to everyone they sparred with on video and off video.
@chris0021kh4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that IJF doesn't allow to touch legs anymore or that they don't give much emphasis to newaza
@o0...9574 жыл бұрын
Maximum groundwork is same. Gracie didn't perfect them they just learned it
@Ironborn44 жыл бұрын
2:58 that's a double leg takedown. I thought those were illegal in Judo competition
@00000000mb4 жыл бұрын
They were legal prior to 2010.
@Ironborn44 жыл бұрын
@@00000000mb why change? They didn't want wrestlers to jump in and do double legs all over the place?
@00000000mb4 жыл бұрын
@@Ironborn4 Seem to be two reasons: 1., some traditional judokas want judo to look like it has traditionally, with a lot of the big high amplitude throws. 2., marketing and worry about the Olympics. There is worry that if judo isn't distinct enough from wrestling and viewers don't see a lot of big throws, the IOC may eliminate judo from the Olympics. Note that a few years ago the IOC tried to eliminate wrestling itself from the Olympics, so this is a valid concern. Some judokas think the rules that eliminate leg grabs are ridiculous... Others don't really care and will just compete under whatever the rules are.
@Ironborn44 жыл бұрын
@@00000000mb interesting.. I do remember that in thaiboxing they removed the outside leg trip and hip/shoulder throws because of judoka dominating them in those exchanges
@ZacNotZachary4 жыл бұрын
@@Ironborn4 I was not aware of either of these cases, very interesting how instead of embracing the wrestlers and judokas entering their sport they decided just to remove those aspects. As far as I'm concerned every time you remove an aspect you're weakening the art
@Therizinosaurus3 жыл бұрын
What Judo (and basically every Asian martial arts) needs is a practical outfit. Maybe make it like Tae Kwon Do outfit where the front is connected. I saw their outfit gets everywhere in every matches.
@aldavedesierdo42 Жыл бұрын
My dad is a Judo blackbelt and I can tell you he can really put people down with ease with just minimum leverage with actual people who are actually resisting. Judo is an amazing martial art to learn and I think Judo is getting obsolete here in my place and I'm trying to find some Judo schools. Dad is old now and busy so he can't teach me tho.
@theodoresmith33534 жыл бұрын
We’ve lost so much as they introduce rules over the years. No grabbing legs has nothing to do with safety.
@WakeSideLife4 жыл бұрын
Only wanna see the big throws for views at the Olympics lol
@theodoresmith33534 жыл бұрын
Hipii i think its to stop wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners from doing well in competition.
@lmk28694 жыл бұрын
@@theodoresmith3353 it's one of the reasons I LEFT Judi for bjj! Ijf is terrible and corny
@theodoresmith33534 жыл бұрын
LMK2 there are judo competitions that allow leg grabs but the fact that the community allows the atrophy of the art is unforgivable.
@lmk28694 жыл бұрын
@@theodoresmith3353 they are so much rarer to find though. BJJ is simply more 'cooler' to the masses. No need to master Japanese terminology (stupid IMO), allowed to grab legs and submit from standing, don't have to bow too much, depending on gym can have any coloured and type gi want, no Kata and best of all, is not driven by the Olympics and the IJF ruleset.
@suicidalsacrifice20014 жыл бұрын
Judo are the throwing techniques from jujitsu. Brazilian jujitsu was a combination of greco Roman wrestling and the locking techniques of jujitsu. Aikido itself are the locking techniques from jujitsu. The two masters were jujitsu students that had different ideas and specialized in those specific areas.
@parisiennemoonlight6650 Жыл бұрын
Well ju jitsu comes from Japan.
@maxbrazil37129 ай бұрын
Judo is like the Tango. When you know exactly what your partner/opponent is going to do then you can balance appropriately. That's what Judo is, going with the flow like water around a rock.
@beatles42ohgg94 Жыл бұрын
one thing people confuse about judo vs aikido. they have a lot of the same moves. but judo focuses on throwing the opponent more than aikido. aikido you are breaking and snapping limbs as the goal. this is why they roll. you are not tossing or rolling them. the goal is to snap the arm, but the person rolls so the aggressor can practice the motion that would s nnap the arm, without actually putting the defender at too much risk of injury.
@ShihanTomCallahan4 жыл бұрын
Mifune is considered the best ever ....
@ElPrimerMatador324 жыл бұрын
Wasn't it Kimura? I remember my sensei talking about him as if he was otherworldy. He would do like 3,000 judo push ups and practice his moves against trees. He said that when he was younger, he got to train with him and tried, but couldn't keep up with him.
@ElPrimerMatador324 жыл бұрын
Here is a video about Kimura. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otF0dcmdq9q0eas.html
@guillermorelobalopez75534 жыл бұрын
@@ElPrimerMatador32 mifune was considered the best in a technical sense. Probably others were faster/stronger/had a better feeling in combat, but Mifune was considered the most technically proficient.
@deville1235 жыл бұрын
Look he’s a black belt! It’s in black and white joe.
@Striker7755 жыл бұрын
the lowest of the challengers was 6th dan black belt so Joe was right
@sowts51574 жыл бұрын
The balance of the guy is pretty eye catching he's so poised only seems to move as much as he needs to.
@kiliankiel12504 жыл бұрын
I love it, because it is gentle not hurting the opponent severely. In Judo the only bar lock permitted is on the elbow joint - because the joints are not as sensitive and the pain reaction to the brain works the fastest! But choking of course is permitted! Hey there is an Australian Karate Fighter with who undertook a hundret opponents sparring! I forget the guys name though! Maybe you could comment on that as well! It would be great to see that! Most fights he won was with a foot sweep -> a Judo technique! And I remember Bruce Lee having one fight where he was on a par with a muay thai boxer they both couldn´t win. Then Bruce put him into Kuzure Kesa Gatame - A Judo technique and finished the fight by submission!