Joe Strummer: - I don't like music

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6 жыл бұрын

Interview with Joe Strummer and The Clash in Norway in 1984.

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@honeycatacomb1191 6 жыл бұрын

Joe: I can play all six strings, or none. Paul: And I play four Lmao

@asGstywdeyascddqybaq 6 жыл бұрын

Arlene the Electric Bass 😂😂

@davidwhite4874 5 жыл бұрын

He couldn't even play that, bless him ...

@RENCHANDBASS 5 жыл бұрын

I love Paul lol

@Francesco_Skip 5 жыл бұрын

ahhahahahahahaha

@mentalmickey1459 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha, so spinal tap

@chip9649 6 жыл бұрын

Quality looks great for 1984!

@eivindstaal 6 жыл бұрын

Filmed by Nrk ( Norwegian national broadcasting )

@chip9649 6 жыл бұрын

Eivind Staal what camera was being used.

@eivindstaal 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry I don`t know

@dodzik07 5 жыл бұрын

I thought it was in like 2000 or something

@DerekHundik 5 жыл бұрын

i thought it was yesterday

@WGPblackmagicSPECIAL 2 жыл бұрын

This feels like a comedy, like something you'd see in the office.

@eldong5250 5 жыл бұрын

"you gotta do a lot of work to even do any of your own thinking"

@alelollipop1903 3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@richardfinlayson1524 3 жыл бұрын

that was the most profound thing he said in the whole interview

@nickbarratt5493 5 жыл бұрын

I've never noticed Joe's demon ears until now

@as3cs3 4 ай бұрын

Topper called him Woody because he thought he looked like woodywoodpecker (but he didn't know he'd previously been called Woody - after Guthrie)

@miracles4u 3 ай бұрын

Demon is right. Sold his birth right?? How empty is music. And who exactly are the muses???

@CJWilcox109 3 жыл бұрын

The Clash was over the second Topper was out.

@ondgek6630 3 жыл бұрын

Strummer was a hypocritical fool

@markdennison6345 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly have never heard 'Cut the Crap'

@forbsey0785 3 жыл бұрын

@@markdennison6345 fucking awful which is just sad. Carving your band up like that never works out for the better. You needed jonesy and topper because of their character. Also these new gizas were just shite

@shepherdstone1801 5 ай бұрын

This is England slaps.

@bmccabe1767 3 жыл бұрын

I was a big clash fan but I must confess I walked out of the gig at Brixton academy with this line up. It was never the same after topper and then finally mick were sacked.

@shable1436 Жыл бұрын

What you mean

@natetaiapa2218 Жыл бұрын

How come they were sacked?

@Jeremycool562 Жыл бұрын

@@natetaiapa2218 I believe mick was very hard to work with, and topper was kicked pit because of addictions.

@StratsRUs 3 жыл бұрын

" There's a fine line between Clever and Stupid "

@daniellawlor7876 6 жыл бұрын

What Joe is saying is still very relevant now

@steventhomas231 6 жыл бұрын

Daniel Lawlor imagine a modern artist saying something like this. No chance. Intelligent music in the main stream is dead.

@wwbuirkle 5 жыл бұрын

I don't even know what he's talking about half the time

@advancedraymondology2914 5 жыл бұрын

How? Everyone "cool" already watches and listens to independent artists. All he had to say was "wake up, wake up." Same shit artists are saying now and have been saying forever. Wake up to what? SJW politics? No thanks. Great voice on Joe, cool songs, but enough with the shit where he was a philosopher or something. Wow, "think for yourself." What a wholly original concept.

@advancedraymondology2914 5 жыл бұрын

You want to be a rebel today, put your phone down and read a book.

@skineyemin4276 5 жыл бұрын

You can basically say the same thing about any style of music from any decade starting from Louis Armstrong jazz innovation, but.. really, from the beginning of the Bebop era onward.

@anguswalsh2387 5 жыл бұрын

This was when the clash were falling apart around 1984-1986. Still the greatest band and the band that got me to play guitar and got me into music.

@miracles4u 3 ай бұрын

Got u into being a degenerate probably

@sonicjet7759 6 жыл бұрын

Joe Strummer was a really smart thinking intelligent punk rock rebel man, god bless his soul, he knew music wasnt really about entertainment, it was about communication and a sense of understanding the world and fixing its problems. Plus Joe was a great tap dancer 5:15 😏😃💐💋🌈

@lorenzomoro9286 6 жыл бұрын

sonic jet Love your comment. You perfectly got the point of his speech.

@sonicjet7759 6 жыл бұрын

thank you

@user-worldpeaceandlove 6 жыл бұрын

Yes you say what I was thinking. I am happy to read your comment now.👍💖🎸

@wwbuirkle 5 жыл бұрын

smart but naive

@ashe984 5 жыл бұрын

sonic jet really tap

@stevefearon9337 3 жыл бұрын

Over production hides the fact there is no song there... this was 1984.. a prophetic analysis of a so much music since. I enjoyed watching this 👍👍

@CoolFellaProductions 4 жыл бұрын

Joe: Intorduces everyone but Paul. Paul: All I see before me are familiar faces...

@pistu72 5 жыл бұрын

SUCH A GREAT PERSONALITY, IN A MOMENT DOMINATED BY A GREAT EGO! STILL I AGREE WITH THE MESSAGGE! LOVE JOE! APUNK ROCK WARLORD! FROM URUGUAY!

@PACE_OUT 5 жыл бұрын

Give this man a podcast

@tattyshoesshigure5731 5 жыл бұрын

Joe & the Clash definitely communicated to so many people, it was almost like they were your best mates even though you never knew them personally... and yet somehow, you did!

@Chrisdrumz 3 жыл бұрын

The Clash as a brand and all of them fully aware of it. Joe and Paul knowing they need Mick and Topper back and the 3 "other" guys knowing their days are numbered.

@Renee2day598 Ай бұрын

"Know Your Rights" changed my life! Sadly in '84 i was 6 y/o... found The Clash through my punk/alt stage even as early as 13. RIP Joe Strummer

@zyxwut321 5 жыл бұрын

Joe just seems to be making it up as he goes along. LOL

@nyahhbinghi 5 ай бұрын

yes

@SuperMasterfatman 3 жыл бұрын

Almost 40 years!! Today, they come across as prophetic. Their points are clear, obvious and comprehensible for everyone who opens their eyes. The sad thing is though, people still haven't understood it!!

@leighdonoghue9266 5 жыл бұрын

Prophetic words, what he said about music being overproduced to hide the fact tht there is no song there blew my mind, so so true it's unreal

@lambrattle 4 ай бұрын

Joe dropped some serious bombs, "1. you've been brainwashed since birth"

@JeromekJerome1972 5 жыл бұрын

Joe is talking up a good game but they were all at sea without Mick. Joe was such a great man and sad to see him entering his wilderness years here. So great he got his dues and mojo back before he passed. The fucking Clash man, never defeated, never bettered.

@duffbaker9554 5 жыл бұрын

For me, some days it's The Clash, other days it's The Jam.

@DSPHistoricalSociety 3 жыл бұрын

RIP Joe Strummer

@as3cs3 6 жыл бұрын

"make-up music from England" hahahahahaha.

@jamesgretsch4894 5 жыл бұрын

as3cs3 The Blitz Kids like Boy George or Steve Strange he’s referring to.

@jamesgretsch4894 5 жыл бұрын

Erik Ruiz I love Culture Club so I agree.

@sharonbre9347 3 жыл бұрын

I love Joe Strummer ♥, so intelligent , well - spoken and independent charismatic leader of '70's Brit punk.

@diananascimentofreire1361 5 жыл бұрын

This man is the essence of punk rock! Great Joe Strummer! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

@patriciagullickson2046 3 жыл бұрын

The true essence of punk rock is the man or woman breaking their rear end to make a living and feeding their family.....or a guitar player starving on the streets to put out a message.. that's punk

@achintobe5410 3 жыл бұрын

@@patriciagullickson2046 yeah,. Instead of privately educated elitist playing up for the camera. He's so far up his own fkn arse in this interview

@wyverntheterrible 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, full of shit

@leahflower9924 2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing about strummer going off on america I'm so bored with the USA is that his biker greaser style couldn't be any more American!

@leahflower9924 2 жыл бұрын

@@wyverntheterrible yup gotta admit though his hair looked good on him

@andresescalante9877 3 жыл бұрын

For someone who 'doesnt like' music he was part of some of the catchiest tunes at the time ( or well at least for me )

@silvar4399 Жыл бұрын

He's talking a load of bollocks in this interview, the clash were all fantastic music obsessives as much as political activists

@bobertrobertson130 9 ай бұрын

once mick jones got canned it was over, he was the main contributor to the song writing and composition

@user-do9id6xl5k 5 жыл бұрын

When I was 16 the Clash and Nathalie were the two most important things in my life

@user-worldpeaceandlove 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for uploading this amazing video!

@kerchmusic7201 6 жыл бұрын

So ironic that Joe criticized "overproduction" right before allowing Bernie Rhodes to create that overproduced abomination known as CTC. Joe is one of my favorite people of all time, but he was way too far up his own arse during this period. As he himself would later admit.

@FT-op4do 5 жыл бұрын

It's not that good but it's not an abomination come on man

@electricleg207 5 жыл бұрын

The Clash without Jones and Headon were good but nowhere near as good . Former Clash roadie Johnny Green went to a show and Strummer remarked that he was wearing a `crap suit` . Green replied `it`s not as crap as your band ` .Strummer just said `i know`. as you know doubt know he regretted sacking Topper and Mick . I reckon they (the classic line up ) could have made at least another one or maybe even two credible albums.

@daytona955joop 5 жыл бұрын

He tried, he got a bit lost but if you listen to what he said then he had a point. Really, this incarnation of The Clash should have been what the Mescaleros became. Joe had the right idea.

@electricleg207 5 жыл бұрын

From The Clash to Combat Rock was a short time span ,i don`t think any groups could do that now. They were a 24 hour group . They had it all ,the songs the look the commitment. Sadly something as good as that can`t last .Although i reckon they could have maybe done at least one more `classic ` album with Jones.

@markwither796 5 жыл бұрын

Kerch Music the fact is once CTC was finished Joe learnt his mum was dieing of Cancer. He then took time out and in his absence Rhodes post produced the album and released it without Strummers approval. Joe never hear the album until it was already out.

@radzo1675 5 жыл бұрын

I love Joe but he's trying so hard to keep it going here knowing deep down that the band is done. He's spot on about a lot of things here but at the same time this is hard to watch. Especially with the "New" guys looking like they'd rather be anywhere else.

@christianmeza4529 4 жыл бұрын

Well said. I think it must have been the lack of commitment and contributions from the other musicians, except for Paul.

@bilbobaggins3464 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, I don't blame the new guys. This speech was very cringy, they were probably like ''oh hell, what the heck r u talking about''

@teachereliandro9656 3 жыл бұрын

The new guys didn't even know what to say because apparently Joe and Paul's ideas were ironic for them. Y'know, they were young and probably willing some money and fame. Joe and Paul already had that fame.

@publicrelations9612 3 жыл бұрын

Age and nostalgia is what makes this profound. It’s mostly bollocks in itself.

@wwbuirkle 3 жыл бұрын

TRue.Love the Clash but Strummer could go on some rubbish tirades

@DaedalusCommunity 3 жыл бұрын

"mostly"

@Jamesp1972 3 жыл бұрын

The kind of random independence that made fools vote for Brexit

@publicrelations9612 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesp1972 someone wants attention 👀

@wwbuirkle 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesp1972 Yes such a sin to want to be independant

@seanlandonclarke 2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting to watch a musician do an interview when they know it's over.

@sebastianrodriguez2934 5 жыл бұрын

A true genious. I so miss him!!

@x77punk77x 6 жыл бұрын

New-wave pop / MTV era... The most creative New Wave was good, artistic, experimental & original and was related to the aesthetic ferment of fertile late-punk/postpunk period but he’s spot on about the ascendance of pop by then and the persistent corporatization of rock.

@crookedbraincrookedbrain9874 3 жыл бұрын

No,it already happened in the 70s with pop rock band like pink floyd,led zeppelin,fletwood mac and co,in fact punk was already a reaction to that,problem is that clash were not punk,they were pop rock.

@jdh9676 3 жыл бұрын

And Joe proved the "music is not the point" with Cut The Crap😅

@paulkielty3800 3 жыл бұрын

What a shit album.

@hellbenderdesign 3 жыл бұрын

_Cut The Crap_ just doesn't count... Just forget it exists.

@surelock22 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't this from the Cut the Crap years?

@MYNAMACHEF 11 ай бұрын

@@surelock22 yes this is the cut the crap lineup

@davetommo4739 Ай бұрын

I asked Joe for a support to The Clash, he said "Do I look like a promoter?" What's the name of your band? I said 4 Minute Warning.. He replied "4 in the mornin' eh? True story from one of the many times we met. love this blokes honesty and hate of the pop world.RIP Joe

@Benjiroyoface 5 жыл бұрын

simonon lookin like anakin in attack of the clones

@maileetherton5567 5 жыл бұрын

The Clash is my all time favorite band! However, they stopped being The Clash the day Mick was gone. Such a tragedy!

@kylecduncan 7 ай бұрын

I knew it was the end when Joe sacked Mick. I bought “Cut the Crap” anyway, but other than “This Is England,” I was disappointed. I’m happy for Mick as his brilliance as a lyricist and vocalist played out with BAD. Even some of his stuff with Carbon Silicon. As for Joe, so happy that he got his mojo back with the Mescaleros.

@allsystemsgo8678 4 жыл бұрын

Mick Jones is so irreplaceable that we need to guitar players to take his place.

@JMarinelli 3 жыл бұрын

...and they STILL couldn’t replace him.

@spaceengineer1452 3 жыл бұрын

TWO is what he meant....

@creamydistortion 3 жыл бұрын

Same thing when Buckingham quit Fleetwood Mac - they had to hire 2 guys to play his parts!!

@pit2ryan3 3 жыл бұрын

@@creamydistortion - Early Fleetwood Mac had 3 guitarists (Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, Jeremy Spencer)...

@vespasiancloscan7077 3 жыл бұрын

He was the only talented guy in the band. Whatever power trip Strummer was on didn't last long after Mick left.

@Mod-rw9cw 3 жыл бұрын

Joe, Mick, Paul an Topper that was The Clash . Once they lost Topper that was it the heart of the band was removed and both Joe and Mick knew that.

@greglyons2526 3 жыл бұрын

liked the Jam much better myself

@Mod-rw9cw 3 жыл бұрын

@@greglyons2526 Me too mate but I really liked The Clash as well.

@nigelcarren 5 жыл бұрын

I think this might be the most interesting and highest quality, most intelligent music-industry 'indie' discussion recorded in the entire 1980's, It seems like it could almost be Nirvana and not The Clash. Sad I only found it in 2019.... But happy I found it all the same. Thank you for the upload. I now see Mr Strummer in a whole new light. BRAVO 🏆

@VanHellsing12 3 жыл бұрын

So glad I was around back then! We had it too good!

@paul-1875 11 ай бұрын

what he say still stands today

@FS-qi1kj 3 жыл бұрын

ugh love this love them

@JoeAndNickgs 5 жыл бұрын

God I love this man ❤️

@sookmajoaby 5 жыл бұрын

If he was still alive today and saw the state of everything including the industry...he'd top himself!

@patriciagullickson2046 3 жыл бұрын

He saw it when he was alive.... He knew it was all b*******... And he was part of the game too.... That's right the reason he knows so much about it is because he was in it...

@MatthewClise 5 жыл бұрын

That was way more intelligent than I was anticipating. I feel this has way more relevance now than it did back then.

@patriciagullickson2046 3 жыл бұрын

And completely b*******t... He loves music... And he was part of the game too... That's why he's doing a damn interview !.…

@DubZenStep 5 жыл бұрын

Still ongoing thing. Love this attitude!

@michaelweinstein3056 3 жыл бұрын

Such a stark example of how far popular music has fallen

@miracles4u 3 ай бұрын

Joe Strummer - surname says it all

@LOLOLULU72 2 жыл бұрын

Very clean and precise way of thinking music should be… communication… love that period

@deeppurple883 2 жыл бұрын

London calling was the pinnacle. Joe Strummer the Clash King's. ☘️🇮🇪

@globaloptimatarot3676 5 жыл бұрын

Please come back Joe 😘😘😘😘

@inhalerofmoistmeals2931 5 жыл бұрын

I generally don't think that music needs justification to exist, he's being a bit of an elitist. Music (with some exceptions) is just another form of expression, whether you want to express your political thoughts or "less meaningful" things. A song doesn't have to communicate life changing philosophies to be good.

@rshv11 5 жыл бұрын

I love Joe Strummer but what you have told it's so true. It's just that... nowadays there's so much shitty music that I think he is a little bit right

@nathanbruce1992 5 жыл бұрын

Rafael Henriquez: back then he was saying the music was equally as shitty. 30 years before then people were saying pop music was shitty. Focus on what you like and listen to that, dont gotta look down on others for doing the same

@mercutiomurphy2743 5 жыл бұрын

He’s talking about these rock and pop star life styles being promoted by these corporate entities, that constantly play on the radio, tv, internet, causing people to be syncophantic idol worshippers, becoming a bunch of imitators, doing nothing unique but to just party and act mindlessly and forget about critical thinking and thinking for yourself. He’s talking about the message, intelligence and feeling into music, being produced organically. With that said the stones are a classic band. But I know what the fuck strummers saying.

@Bbderbala 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@mariannairam2218 5 жыл бұрын

Duff Baker i Think He will not give a shit if someone will listen it without thinking about what it is about. He generally try to say. Think what you listen.

@redbeki 3 жыл бұрын

Siouxsie said the same ..saying something with meaning to people who are listening 😀... R.I.P Joe

@samsoceans 5 жыл бұрын

London Calling, to take an example, communicates to me, yes.. It communicates a great musical experience, with incredible voice performances and great adaptations. So yeah, music.. it IS the point, dear Joe, before any other meaning. But I love you.

@raybbaby 3 жыл бұрын

This was a sad point in the band's "career arc" or whatever you want to call it. Still love the first 3 or 4 albums. This video should be titled Joe and Paul and three dudes who AREN'T the Clash. Christ, watching Joe struggle to remember these dudes' names is agony.

@xraystyle6172 2 жыл бұрын

Joe forever...

@rodrigodelprat 5 жыл бұрын

Music can have no words at all and still be sincere, because it's an abstract language. I love the Clash but it's also fine to connect with music entirely viscerally, rather than filtering the meaning through your brain.

@lucasbobechko5185 5 жыл бұрын

prodigalretrod listen to orion exactly

@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 2 жыл бұрын

This was when the clash was breaking up and only joe strummer was left. Mick jones was the musical heart of the band, and he was fired.

@shable1436 Жыл бұрын

Music can be interpreted million ways, and not one is the right way

@shruggzdastr8-facedclown 5 жыл бұрын

...still missing you, Joe!

@herrtutorial2.07 5 жыл бұрын

He can be glad that he doesnt need to suffer through modern pop music

@alessiaarcuti4289 4 жыл бұрын

We miss you Joe ❤️

@buckbumble 3 жыл бұрын

Mick Jones was the music of the Clash. Fact! Joe had the lyrics but without the music, regardless or genre, you don’t have anything. See Cut the Crap. They seemed to avoid their own advice there.

@silvar4399 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. If you have a duty to communicate a message its never going to get across without putting the same effort into making the music great

@Gerardoooooooo 3 жыл бұрын

“I don’t like music, I just like maxism.”

@alexanderrobertnewby 3 жыл бұрын

What's maxism?

@SUP3RKAPON 3 жыл бұрын

When you try to say "marxism"

@adderon7476 3 жыл бұрын

Take it to the max with maxism

@thankgodforpunkrockbandaid8903 5 жыл бұрын

Miss you Joe

@timothyd9543 Жыл бұрын

I looked through the comments and didn't see it, but in the opening seconds of Big Audio Dynamite's "E=MC2", a voice can be heard saying 'I don't like music.' I often wondered who/what that is. It seems to be from this interview. Mick busting Joe's chops.

@jonstrummer6930 6 ай бұрын

'I don't like music' is sampled from the movie Performance. It's Mick Jagger speaking.

@WillCavalier829 5 жыл бұрын

I always wondered what happened to the Clash as they were so great and successful and rightfully so and now I know.....Guess that's why he died so young God bless him....

@MurphyKargesBass 3 жыл бұрын

I love original thinkers

@AlexSimpson1967 5 жыл бұрын

By the time this interview was made, the Clash, as we knew and loved them were done. Combat rock was decent in parts, Cut the Crap should have stayed as studio demos and never been released. they, to quote the pistols were "flogging a dead horse" by this point - just sad. Thankfully Joe went on to better things in his solo career - this to me will never really be called the Clash...

@alexjewell2351 3 жыл бұрын

In 2020 you look back and see that Strummer knew his shit in 1984.

@Thompsdan 3 жыл бұрын

The dire nature of Cut the Crap is certainly proof that Joe didn’t like music at this point.

@Vinseneb 4 жыл бұрын

This hurts so much!

@beefsoda1 Жыл бұрын

Legendary

@k2young999 5 жыл бұрын

I love Joe

@Hamlet2369 5 жыл бұрын

Legends

@robelicit 5 жыл бұрын

They're unique, people relate to the honesty of what they are. They care about life,,, thru the music, the music is utilized to change life & humanity. That's what resonates, that's what helps humanity & Destiny IS within our hands,, we will prevail. 🔭📡🎺🚀

@renatokobashigawa7025 7 күн бұрын

I think this is a very relevant point today, not by the point itself, but by its existence since music became an industry. Saying that the music of today is simplistic, bad or too commercial is ignoring that music has always been simplistic, bad and too commercial. Even at that time Joe Strummer was pointing out overproduction as an issue with artists, not caring much about live performances. It has always been this way, but it seems that music from yesterday was better due to pure survival bias. Simply put, bad music has always been made. It's just been washed away with time, along with being less noticeable because music wasn't as accessible as it is today.

@dagmarmedabrejlova8825 3 жыл бұрын

he seems so wise

@MarkLsixtyseven 6 жыл бұрын

Good interview . Was talking sense . Stop giving your money to corporate rock.

@TranceMasterJack 5 жыл бұрын

the clash were on epic. a cooperation id love to be so fartunate. corporations can be benificial. ya feel me? cooperatives can be too. community loving u all.

@pr9062 5 жыл бұрын

All music communicates...even if Shareef don't like it.

@christopherhowell5221 5 жыл бұрын

...."I miss this feeling"...

@blakeallyn4152 5 жыл бұрын

As a new band I couldn't agree more. We have turned down 3 record contracts for this reason.

@bsx121 5 жыл бұрын

He's full of it..he was signed to a major record label

@philruane5575 5 жыл бұрын

I took my youngest daughter to put flowers on Joes tree at near glastonbury

@michaelburke5717 3 жыл бұрын

Long live Joe strummer and the clash

@sniffableandirresistble 5 жыл бұрын

God they were huge and beloved

@natetaiapa2218 Жыл бұрын

5:10 That's the truth!!! I don't fin d myself rushing out to buy a new record either. Why? Because the music of today 2022/2023 is a mess. Give me bands like The Clash anyday. I'd rather look for and buy second hand albums than most of the modern bands today.

@scotttrent4721 3 жыл бұрын

I wish they’d made a record at this point that lived up to what they were trying to be about.

@jupitermoongauge4055 3 жыл бұрын

"I don't like music" yeah, it shows

@ComptGeorges 3 жыл бұрын

Well... yeah... he is sort of putting out his punk persona. But in reality you cannot make great songs and big hits to it as well, such as The Guns of Brixton or London Calling without any musical talent or will to do it. There were tens of thousands punk bands in the 70s, 80s but very few made such commercial success or popularity as the Clash. Also the punks had that attitude that it wasn't about the music at all, well it really was beacuse as soon as their music faded out of the youth, their influence and short seighted philosophies faded away as well, or morphed into sonething else.