Dam when i saw the thunbnail i thought it was an odin 2 mini for a second

I just keep saying over and over to myself, "I have a Steam Deck - just walk away, I have a Steam deck - just walk away." Why am I here!!!!

Holy shit late 2000s electronics are so back now we just need gummy clear electronics to come back

I think this is where Windows on ARM is important, small devices like this could really benefit from a lower power-high performance chip like the new snapdragon chip, imagine oculink or usb4 external GPU paired up with the new snapdragon chip in a device like this. Would be killer I bet.

I have the first one, i love it. Havnt had any issues whatsoever. Still plays everything i throw at it 😊

That price tag though. Woof.

A real futuristic device. I have it for 2 months now and I'm very satisfied with it. Never experience any issue. Using it for designing softwares and office works with gaming also. GPD Win 4 2024 is really a win

When you slid it up it was like seeing a car from the 80’s-90’s with pop up headlights.

Ultimately, i took a steam deck over this back right when it came out. I was just a bit more confident in valve than the state of handhelds overall, but Im glad to hear people are enjoying it

Nice review. I like your Pokemon Blue mug too. Lovely!

Finally a review that points the ugly things about the win 4 and how to fix them to make it awesome. It would be awesome if you had a tutorial for using Handheld Companion

The only issue I have with it is the battery life under heavy load. You get about an hour. I know that's reasonable, but it would always be better to at least get 2 hours for a handheld. Under light load, you can get up to 5 hours. I like the keyboard because it helps with on the fly troubleshooting if a game won't run right. You can't always use an onscreen keyboard.

I really like what they did with this device. I was looking into the Win Mini for a while but I can only imagine the difficulties with after sales support. That’s why I went with the Legion Go.

Excellent Choice for a product to review Joey

I have the Win Max 2. Having the keyboard right there actually comes in handy for hotkeys in games and emulators. I don't have to set up controller hotkeys for various Retroarch functions because I can just hit the corresponding keys on the keyboard instead. And I set up hotkeys in motion assistant for various essential functions (TDP presets, screen brightness, performance overlay, etc.)

Nice Review , thanks

Love this thing! Plays WoW flawlessly, I do a ton of traveling and this thing is my best friend for travel!

Been wanting to order this for a min

is there a chance todo a video of its battery life benchmark ? great video

Great vid man! I ended up getting the Win4 over the Win Mini, used your above code... :)

The Win Mini is very similar to the Win 4 but is FAR more ergonomic (if you attach the included grip handles). Still has the same unfortunate heat issues though. I really like having the full keyboard to create useful hotkeys and macros for various games. Oh! And the touchpad on the Mini is stupendous!

This is good badass 💪🏻

Waiting for a GPD Win 4 refresh or GPD Win 5. On the fence but this is the one handheld that has a tight grip in debate if I should buy it or wait haha

The gamepad to mouse switch is a good feature if you are plugging in an external controller and want to turn off the internal controller. Some games automatically detect the first controller. I wish the Rog Ally had a way to turn off the internal controller or switch it to mouse mode when using an external controller.

Great review! Not for me though, the fact that these things quickly become old in a year and that I can't really upgrade em, I rather just upgrade my PC and have all my handhelds benefit from it via streaming. If they could develop a custom apu like the steamdeck and could play snes at 4-5 watt, then I'd be interested!

I would say it's closer to being inspired by the PSP than the Vita, but it still looks excellent.

I own a steamdeck A legion go And the one i always carry with me is the gpd win 4 2024

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I’ve had the Gpd win 3 for years now and I’m thinking of upgrading to the 4 and making it my primary gaming computer since the 3 now lacks some power compared to this I think it would be well worth it for the games I play mainly fallout and black ops 3 modded zombies

This is a real monster.

One question : do you think I can use After effects efficiently on this device, I mean link the gpd win4 to a large screen without after effects being laggy and without the device being too hot ? Thanks for you Review by the way :)

Joey, I would like to stop, appreciate and say BIG THANKS for the great job you're doing!

This is getting surprisingly close to a form factor in which I would consider buying one of these. Perhaps maybe two or three generations down the line will finally have something capable of playing PC games in a form factor that's at least a perfect one to one with the original PSP to the point where I can comfortably fit it in my pocket.

I just resigned because of the fan noise and I'll wait for the Ally X to be released. Thanks for this test!

You'll like the GPD Wini but your fingertips will be on fire with AAA games, I will try that Handheld Companion you mentioned in this video to see if it helps

GPD win 4 + Xreal air pro HANDS DOWN!!! I played them everyday!

Joey, can you do an ergonomics comparison between the Win 4 and the Win Mini, with/without the grips?

The APU does have to be cooled so the fan noise is not something that can be remedied... but the sound volume isn't a realistic solution IMO. This will mainly be used for gaming on busses, trains, planes, car rides. You're going to have earbuds in. The fan noise will be miniscule compared to ambient noise while traveling. This is not as big of an issue as it sounds in this review. Very few people are buying a handheld device to play in their quiet homes because it makes no sense to do so. As far as the keyboard... It's far better than an on-screen keyboard. It doesn't cover up the screen. You don't have to worry about touch sensitivity activating the wrong key. If you're a Windows user you will absolutely get use out of it with all of the Windows shortcut keys. Windows is a double edged sword. You most likely want this device to play Windows games, but as such Windows 11 is extremely bloated and you'll need to know how to remove that bloat. Otherwise, background tasks will eat up your battery. I know there are lots of places online that say Windows 11 is more "efficient" than Windows 10 or even Windows 7. Those are outright lies. There is 0 truth to them and their motivation for saying it is something other than their love for honesty. Take any route that will allow you to decrease bloat while still retaining the ability to use all of the hardware features this offers. People will say "Don't even consider Windows 7 because it's insecure!!! That's of course fear porn in this scenario. The only consideration should be if you can get the GPD drivers to run in Win 7 and if the launchers / software will run in it. Otherwise, there is no concern. You're not going to be downloading from sketchy parts of the internet on this device. You'll be gaming on the go. It's not going to be on all the time or with a fixed address. So nobody is going to access your handheld. If they somehow magically did, what would they get? Some roms they could have downloaded elsewhere? Cool story. It's a not a legit worry and the benefits outweigh the 0 risk. Auto TDP was the best tip this review gave. Why? Adjusting TDP manually doesn't make a lot of sense. Why? Try setting your maximum fuel consumption on your vehicle to some really low rate. Then do some interstate/freeway driving. You'll quickly realize the machine needs what it needs to run specific tasks. Trying to limit that is a backwards way of thinking. The machine needs to be ungoverned as far as how hard it can run when it needs to. The software being run is what needs to be limited so that it just doesn't need to run as hard (limiting FPS). This will limit the power consumption naturally and you won't chug along in the mean time. Don't forget to shut off the search indexer and turn off wifi before gaming. I doubt you'll be forgetting where you put some file on your SSD on this handheld. So you won't really need the indexer running in the background eating up your battery while you're trying to game. If wifi is enabled, Windows WILL look for updates, download antivirus definitions, get news if you've left it enabled, and send screenshots and other telemetry back to microsoft and anyone else who has paid MS to spy on your usage. Shut it off.

These prices seem absurdly high. I'm just waiting for them to be closer to 500 than 1,000. It'll happen if I. Patient in the next 5 years I'd say. Something that can play anything off the pc.

I’m surprised at this review I was expecting one like last time where you just didn’t like it lol. Interesting how your view of this form factor and software changes can change it.

wow what a beast

The Odin 2 still remains the king of handhelds.

ive been waiting for ages brooo i cant wait until it arrives

I just ordered an Ayaneo Air 1s instead. Oled screen is key

I really think that, if we ever see an Odin 3 or 4, it'll be running on Snapdragon Elite architecture. I'd pay $500-$600 for something like that, but if it's supposed to compete with an Apple M4 chip, then maybe it'll be more expensive than even that.

I have a Steamdeck but really want this I love it's size How it's battery life

Had me fooled at first look I thought you already had the Odin 2 Mini

I feel like the 2tb spec is driving up the price a lot, I'm curious to see how much a more sensible 512gb or even 1tb would be, maybe even with 16gb ram

Pretty nice device but I will stick to my rog ally as I find a seven inch screen just the right size surprising how that extra inch can make the difference from to small to just right imo and this does look very chunky in comparison - a real shame that one of the main features of the device the slide up keyboard isn’t great to type on

I hope they update it with the 370... They did with the duo before release. 40% more performance while same TDP.

Crazy I have a blueprint of a design like that back in the day based off the psp 1000 tho😂

I'm planning on getting this or the max2 on linux and have an all in one device. ditch my phone also.

Did you do the cooling mode that everyone is doing on reddit? they say it improves heat at least for 11c

Trigger haptics? I'm a Forza fiend, and that series makes the trigger haptics indispensable for metering out proper throttle and braking input (I run no car assists, just rewind and braking line only)...

Gaming handhelds, hitting all the right gadget nerves at the minute, filling the void left by smartphones! Mmmm, buttons

The win mini appeals to me more I think

This has been my favorite handheld device since the first model and I drool every time. I just can't justify the price.

It's def a cool device imo but the price and the fact that the screen caps out at 60hz is a hard pass for me dawg. For that price it should've shipped with oled or in the minimum a 120hz panel.

It's great, I have the 6800u version and to get it imported into europe at the time overall cost $1400 in total and i'm absolutely terrified of dropping it since I've got butterfingers. So it's got a place of honor on my shelf and that's about it. I'm using my Win Max 2 2024 8840u and loving it. Looking to get a 7900XT and a mini itx case with a power supply to house it, then run oculink. Works well enough to be my sort of super switch and all in one computer, and my Odin 2 Mini will be my small handheld I won't absolutely cry about dropping because it wouldn't be so expensive to replace and repair and is lighter and more portable. I'm glad to have my Win 4, but I will probably dock it at a small monitor for kicks as a display.

It looks so high tech and well made... Could easily be made by Sony with a big Vita 2 logo on it. 😅

it looks like a T-mobile Sidekick and OG PSP

thank FSR for exisiting

How does it perform under heavy load + charging? I mean like playing days gone + charging? Did it shutdown due to overheating?

I have a odin 2 pro, people wanted to buy it off of me and I thought I could get a mini instead but I stream a lot of games using Moonlight. Do you think the smaller screen would make my streaming experience much worse? I'll take your word on this since I know you use moonlight too and have 5 inch devices already I guess.

Damn this is like witchcraft.. almost...looks phenomenal

Having a slide-out physical keyboard is awesome and the small form factor with the amount of power is really nice, but it's just so expensive... I'd rather get a Steam Deck OLED for $300 less.

Slide out mechanism and keyboard added unnecessary cost/complexity and bulk. At 1k...not too many can afford it. Staying with my OLED Steamdeck

This is better than my laptop 😂

Loki mini is that you?

I live on disability and will never be able to afford this 😥. I have been team GPD since their start. This is my dream console.

if this had a bigger battery i would have loved to get this

I had the first interation of thr gdp win. It was ambitious but fell flat for me and mine broke within half s year. This looks cool but i love my steam deck

personally, im waiting for the win micro

I wait for the oled version.

it look just like the psp which is very appealing to me. i did owned a psp and still have it in my possession. dam that device is fat. its thick and chunky, very impressive. as long as it not heavy its good

anything with such a price better play everything lol

I was playing some on low 720p AAA games and it just shuts down and restarts windows from getting too hot lol, need to do thermal strips/redo paste, saw they dont put enough on it

I clicked because I thought it was an Odin 2 Mini 😂

If it was 120hz I would get it. still might get this device anyway

With $1,000 price tag, my drool stops immediately.

See, give me this with 5G Lte and let me a add it to my phone plan. That's what I'd want haha

See the portal gets a lot of hate but that's why they where able to keep the price so low. It's strictly streaming no need for expensive hardware

Seriously $983 😂 cool Device, good review. But no thanks for that price.

Sheesh 983? Before tax 😮

Rog Ally and Legion go dont come with an oculink port, unless they include Thunderbolt 5 on the Ally and Go, then they are always going to lose

Is he the guy from ETA Prime

is this better than the steamdeck, AOG ally or odin 2 or rp4pro?

How does this compare to Odin 2 and steam deck performance and number is systems playable ?

Ive always hated slide keyboards not only is it another moving part but they're usually really bad compared to touchscreen counterparts

Imagine them using a 880m on a 9840u.

Dude 30watts and still at only 70 degrees on cpu and gpu, wow!

1080p is wasted on a 6" screen I used 540p on handhelds and can't tell the difference.

They need to use liquid metal thermal paste

Can you use a ps controller on this handheld?

All these handhelds besides the steam deck continue to put the analog stick on the right side below the buttons. Terrible placement. Should be above them so you can actually use the stick properly.

Yeah, that battery life is always the deal-breaker with this tier of hardware.

I want one but it's so expensive.

What switch emulator were you using here?

thanks joey a little pricey m8

Biggest issue with this is associated with cost versus necessity. No one needs this. The market for it exists and they made other iterations so this market is tappable but the price point just makes me vomit. It's a bad price point for a device that does less than a laptop. And you're paying moderately costed laptop money. This device is what happens when someone with more money than sense splurges on something and gets back less return on investment but decides they still deserve the full amount for their mistake. And I still think this cutie device is better than the CyberTruck!