John Deere Z535M 54" vs TORO Titan 54" - Cut Quality BATTLE!
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Күн бұрынThe 2 biggest brands in the lawn care game go head-to-head in this exciting new comparison by Main Street Mower.
Tune in to see how the John Deere Z535M compares to the TORO Titan in homeowner or residential market. In this comparison, Chip tests the cut quality, handling, features, and dispersion of both the industry leading mowers.
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[PRODUCTS DISCUSSED IN THE VIDEO]
(1) TORO 54 in. TITAN Zero Turn Mower
(2) John Deere 54 in. Z 535M ZTrak Mower
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[ VIDEO CHAPTERS ]
00:00 Mower Info & Pricing
03:05 TORO 1st Pass
05:05 John Deere 1st Pass
06:35 Initial Thoughts
07:57 More Mowing Footage
08:38 Final Thoughts
11:00 Finishing Cut with TORO
11:42 Conclusion
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@angelomannino4726 10 ай бұрын
I think there’s a few things that should be pointed out about this comparison. You compared a Toro with a fabricated that to a John Deere with a step deck, that’s a huge difference right there because the Toro desk is just gonna be made better. As far as cut quality goes the John Deere look like it had a lot less stragglers than the toro did. Most people aren’t gonna be cutting with their shoots down anyways, and that would almost completely eliminate the problem with the John Deere, since it shoot is angled downward at the ground. John Deere makes excellent products and I just wanted to share that information for anyone that’s interested
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for your time. You made some good points. We compared the 2 mowers that were closest to each other from both the brands, in terms of price and features. The decks compared in this video was not a choice from us, but merely what the brands offer for the same (ish) price range (mind you, toro is about 700 cheaper for a much better deck). As for the cut quality, We mentioned in the video that John Deere was not bad at all. Toro did leave a few more stranglers, but definitely did better on a first pass at-least with a shoot on. The decision to leave the shoot on was intentional, since we want to test out all setups for our viewers. In the next John Deere vs Toro comparison, which is dropping soon, we would not have the shoot on. 🙂
@404nitro 9 ай бұрын
The stamped deck thing is an old wives tale. I have run JD stamped decks for over 20 years including under my CUT and my Z950 and a bunch of older garden tractors and Z's.. They are every bit as strong as any fabbed deck and stronger than most. They cut as well as or better than any fabbed deck. I also run a Scag Cheetah so know this first hand.
@kevincameron8437 Ай бұрын
My Toro Titan just gave up the ghost yesterday with about 650 hrs on it. It was a maintenance hog with constant belt issues..both deck and drive. And the Kawasaki engine ended up burning oil the past 3 seasons. So, I think I'm going to go Deere this time around. Thanks for the info and comparison.
@charlandjordan6176 10 ай бұрын
WOW! Thank y’all for sharing!
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it 🙂
@therrienmichael08 10 ай бұрын
What if you went counter clockwise all the way starting at the outer perimeter ?
@alisonscannell3721 10 ай бұрын
Toro, the spread was great, so much better than the JD, great comparison guys 🎉
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Alison. Glad you liked it. 🙂
@patriciabeuster4556 10 ай бұрын
I think new equipment will always win over used equipment but I also think that most people aren’t needing to mow 12 inch tall grass too so the John Deere is probably just fine on dispersing normal clippings or just remove/flip up the flap as it looks to be aiming the clippings more directly down when coming out the blade chamber. Love me some Al Bladez!!!
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
That's totally fair. The better mower is the one that suits your needs and style of cut better. More importantly, the better mower has a better dealer near you, may it be for a homeowner or a professional landscaper.
@chrisfaulkner3840 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion toro did better job spreading out the grass
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
I feel the same. Both mowers had their advantages but grass dispersion was definitely TORO's strong point.
@charlottesometimes6977 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, boys!
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Our pleasure 🙂
@bartdaw6681 10 ай бұрын
Good honest commentary! I have to agree with you.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Bart. Really appreciate it.
@patriciamorehouse5704 10 ай бұрын
I think even though the Toro spread out the grass better, do either have a option to buy a bag to catch all the clippings if someone doesn't want to leave the grass on the lawn. If this is an option then it's a tie of course. The John Deer gives you a better chance in raking the grass up if you want to do it that way. It depends on the person.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree Patricia. Both mowers were soooo good that it comes down to personal preference of setup and cut.
@keithnagy7464 10 ай бұрын
I cut without the shield down in my exmark. You should have tried it with the shields up. Does anyone cut with them down?
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Yes, we plan on testing out different setups that people usually use. The next video i the Toro vs JD series would have the shields up. 🙂
@Jasonrcsd 4 ай бұрын
do you think blade tip speed played was one reason the JD didn't discharge as well? Also, with that tall grass how is each mower for cleaning around the belt? Are they quick and easy access or do they require several steps and a pain to get at to clean around everything. Just found your channel and enjoying the videos!! I'm in the Cowboy State getting ready for spring. I have 7 acres. 2 that the home sits on and 5 acre lot that borders the home. I usually use a compact tractor with a 3-pt finish mower. Outline everything with my John Deere D130. My issue is that my tractor set up can be a pain. It's not always as simple as just go out and mow. There have been times when either the tractor broke down or the 3-pt finish mower broke down and I've had to mow the entire 7 acres with the D130 42" deck. Those times suck as it literally takes up an entire weekend. It's all flat land but the 5 acre lot can be rough as there has been pocket gopher, vole etc activity. Now I'm looking for my first ZT and that is how I discovered your channel. Initially I was looking at the Toro Titan 60" w/MyRide but the nearest dealer is 120 miles away. The local JD dealer is only 20 miles away. Still undecided which way to go.
@johnddaley 13 күн бұрын
The 530m he referred to is actually only $5800 so actually $100 cheaper than the toro, the 530r is $6500 and has a Kawasaki and every option available on the 5 series deeres. The 535 tested has a Briggs. The 530m that is referenced is also a 24hp Kawasaki, which is an absolute beast, it also comes with the comfort glide seat which is really nice as well. With that height of grass both machines would have performed much better with the discharge chutes pulled up or better yet removed like 99% of people do anyway. It definitely interesting to me how every other brand is compared to Deere. That alone should tell you something.
@TheIronDuke502 10 ай бұрын
I was curious about what blades were on the John Deere and on the Toro. You could have easily raked and baled all of those clippings. Very tall grass is a challenge for any brand of mowers and the types of mower blades can play a huge role with the results. Thanks as always for your great videos.
@drwallace8664 10 ай бұрын
😅
@majorrichards7943 10 ай бұрын
I have a my ride Toro and it does a great job and it leaves no lumps of grass all over. I have a monster kid on on my Toro.😊
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
That's great. Thanks for sharing 🙂
@johnrau6568 10 ай бұрын
You need Al Blades on the other mower, would be fun to watch...lol
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Hahah that would've been awesome.
@Eyesofthasouth 17 күн бұрын
Does this model Titan have a hinged floor plate or removable for deck and belt access?
@leadnsteel1428 2 ай бұрын
I was a Toro guy for a while. I had an old Proline 36 and a Timemaster 30 inch but going SCAG now. Blades also need regular sharpening.
@mainstreetmower Ай бұрын
Oooh. May I ask what led you to making that switch?
@leadnsteel1428 Ай бұрын
@@mainstreetmower I think Scags are made better.
@gregoryeditor6500 10 ай бұрын
I am waiting for the 2024 Toro Recycler and Supper Recycler reviews. I really need one with the power reverse. 36 likes now
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
yesss those would be great to do a review on.
@anitaparrish691 10 ай бұрын
I need u to come up where I live to how it cuts
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
How up is up?
@bgood424 9 ай бұрын
If you can and have time I’d love to see a video on the z master 4000 hd.
@mainstreetmower 9 ай бұрын
We do have one on the 4000. Here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrxjjdFj3tmYqZ8.htmlsi=MJYtHN_e9qAv_LBM
@brianmuse7215 10 ай бұрын
Does the John Deere have the bagger plate under the deck? If so remove it and it will disperse grass a lot better.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Oooh I did not check that. Thank you for that advice.
@harryerhart5978 10 ай бұрын
Another thing we're not doing is the deck setting because it says 3.5 doesn't mean it's 3.5 you can have deck drop it says 3.5 but it could be 3 inches. Scag is famous for that no pitch of the deck or cutting shorter than the deck says l had that problem 😊😊😊😊
@elvinjonesjr4730 10 ай бұрын
I like the Toro, it’s cut looks better.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Same. These 2 mowers were both so good, that it rally just comes down to preference with cutting style and quality. And who has a better dealer near you.
@hypervigilance1465 10 ай бұрын
I want to upgrade to the titan from the timecutter eventually timecutter is only 4 months old.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
That upgrade might take a while if you're waiting for the timecutter to reach the end of it's life.
@hypervigilance1465 10 ай бұрын
@@mainstreetmower yea it's good but i'm basically mowing almost 2 acres of the desert Im wishing i would have gotten the suspension model but they were sold out here in socal. I already need to sharpen the blades after 4 months only 16 hours on it installed an hour meter.already did the first oil change and burnt the oil drain plug warming it up.
@hypervigilance1465 10 ай бұрын
@@mainstreetmowerone of the front tires is flat i'm going to put a little slime in it and fill it back up.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
@@hypervigilance1465 We've heard about the front tires going flat a couple of times now. There are god flat free options available on the market. We have a video on it, might be useful 🙂
@PhillipDrumz 10 ай бұрын
What is it about the toro that allows it to eject grass more efficiently? Wonder how it is different from the John Deere 🤔
@MrLewisb33 10 ай бұрын
It seemed to me like the John deere's discharge chute was pointed more towards the ground than the toro. That'll make the difference if that's really what these bad eyes saw
@harryerhart5978 10 ай бұрын
Watch out green and yellow are coming to town The John Deere 960m 60 inch deck 31 HP Kawasaki. Soon as l can get it back out of the shop 😜😜
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait Harry. Very excited for that video. 🙂
@harryerhart5978 10 ай бұрын
Me too if it ever gets fixed 😡
@Austin-ry2gs 10 ай бұрын
Deere cut quality was better imo. 98% of people cut with no shute or atleast have it proped up. Toro seems like a decent machine for the price.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
That's fair. There's no right answers in my opinion. It's whichever suits you best. And more importantly, whichever has a better dealer near you.
@MJF40 Ай бұрын
Double cut needed regardless.
@nonameguy4441 10 ай бұрын
I was looking a John Deere and even their commercial mowers have stamped decks which I thought was strange
@harryerhart5978 10 ай бұрын
Stay tuned my friend don't give up on a stamped deck yet
@nonameguy4441 10 ай бұрын
@@harryerhart5978 They're coming out with new decks?
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
@@nonameguy4441 Yes we though that was strange too, specially for the prices.
@nonameguy4441 10 ай бұрын
@@mainstreetmower it will keep me from running them
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
@@nonameguy4441 I get that. There's some things you need for sure for your specific style of mowing.
@daniellang6112 2 ай бұрын
John Deere left a mess. Double cut with deck higher for more dispersment
@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын
Copy that. Thank you for the advice.
@frenkybigone5641 2 ай бұрын
Für mich sieht es so aus das der Toro mäht sauberer!
@mainstreetmower 2 ай бұрын
Absolut einverstanden.
@gabriellesullivan4772 7 ай бұрын
Al Bladez sent me...
@mainstreetmower 7 ай бұрын
Hey, welcome to the channel.
@K24murdercivic 9 ай бұрын
As a deere factory technician that series John deere mower is junk any yellow deck zeroturn Is cheaply made try a green deck 7 iron with the larger discharge which also has alot faster blade tip speed and then see The difference
@mainstreetmower 9 ай бұрын
That's great insight, specially coming from someone how is that intimately connected to the units. Thank you for sharing Jimmy. Our next comparison (dropping tomorrow) has the green deck deere vs the Toro.
@patriciabeuster4556 10 ай бұрын
This thumbnail has me in stitches. Chip’s hand isn’t even connected to his arm.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, you spotted that one 😅
@johndenver8574 10 ай бұрын
Take off that shoot for the john deere and it will disperse better.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that's the plan for the next John Deere comparison. We wanted to test them in different setups for the viewers. Started with the shoot on for this video.
@andreabond3501 10 ай бұрын
Toro Won dispersed better
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
Definitely dispersed better.
@texangal2477 10 ай бұрын
Imo the Toro outdid the John Deere.
@mainstreetmower 10 ай бұрын
In some regards, yes I agree with you.
@jawoo2228 10 ай бұрын
John Deere products are pretty colors. Toro products are functional.
@daman9780 10 ай бұрын
are those standard blades on the john deere....try high lift and i am sure that the cut of the john deere will be as good as the toro and will throw out the grass just as far
@MJF40 Ай бұрын
Double cut needed regardless.
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