Jack Williams yh you're right he'll go down in history as a good PM

J Major was distracted by sexy lady, Edwina Curry. They never had enough of each other. Even in the Houses of Parliament they were at it, hammer and tongs . . .!!!!

Aidan Lunn p

Jack Williams my friend pp

Aidan Lunn Rip.

Juan Moorchants until 2019

ugh i hate living in the future

@@rustyrussell7456 Yes May and Major alike

@@veggie42 except Major actually did win an election outright

80 seats now 😉

Talking of that, which Dire Straits track was used in the On The Record promo?

Paddy Ashdown described him as a thoroughly decent man leading a truly dreadful party, and I think that was spot on. Looking back we had a period from 1945 to 2010 of Prime Ministers who whatever their faults and troubles in Government led the country with honest and decent intentions. Since 2010 the opposite has been true, Theresa May might have bucked the trend but her increasingly extremist party made sure her time in office was cut short and failed to deliver. Kier Starmer is going to have a hell of a lot of work to do to turn the country around when he eventually gets the keys to No10 but I do believe he is honest, and that his heart and mind is in the right place. It’s going to need to be, they are surely inheriting the country in its worst economic state since the end of WW2.

@@pipoo1paddy pantsdown

Yes. Who's fault is that? I honestly do wonder these days.

Not sure about that. Most politicians crave power. Plus, I imagine Edwina Currie was a pretty good fuck.

She's certainly a firebrand alright!

should think that Norma was shocked and horrified at his sordid affair! she must have thought,..''what does she do, that I don't do?!!!!!!!!!!!!!''

and Corbyn with Abbott

@@lennylaa1686 Same as Hilary she should've become MP like Natalie Elphicke for Dover Charlie's wife did

Yet he’s been absolutely proved right on every point he made, the failure of Brexit, the dishonesty of those who led the leave campaign. No wonder so many leading Tory figures from the Thatcher/Major years have disowned the party they once led. If Thatcher were still alive she’d have burned the modern Tories to the ground by now.

"They're taking the P Norma ".

You're from 2026? What's it like?

J Hibberd back to the Blair days where the PM can do whatever he wants without much consequence. Worrying times for all, last time ended up in an illegal war ☹️

J Hibberd I agree somewhat but in 2003 not many people thought the Tories would return, they had gone the same way Labour have now, with two self indulgent selections as leader, firstly Hague and then Duncan Smith. It’s only after Iraq, and IDS departing which resulted in a small gain of seats for the Tories (albeit a worse result than Labour in 2019) that people thought they may return, although in 97, 01, and 05 their vote shares were somewhat static, they faced the same questions as labour do now regarding a lack of broad appeal. They picked the right man in Cameron, picking someone who would be more likely to win an election over ideological purity (which David Davis was). Even then winning outright was going to be impossible in one election cycle, so it proved. Would be interesting to see where labour goes next, if they elect a Kier Starmer figure, he could win over more moderate voters, I wouldn’t be too worried about his remain leanings, as Brexit will be done (to quote the phrase of the day) by 2024.

Joe Dyson interesting take, the jury is still out on Starmer, too much of an appeaser in my view, looks to be straddling 2 horses, not too different from a Cameron type figure. As for the “purist” Corbyn, he’s right on most fronts; health, foreign policy, education and climate change. His temperament is more “conservative” than any of the conservatives over the last 10 years, perhaps why he was so off putting for modern day liberal Britain. Treated quite appallingly throughout and a persistent double standard was applied, planting doubt in the mind of an easily influenced public over trivial issues. Whether he had links with IRA is consigned to the past (doubtful as post GE2019 the MSM ran a montage of his support for the GFA), more important is the Cons continuous support of arms to the Saudis to continue their assault on Yemen.

@@naveed210 starmer reminds me of Cameron and Blair and Boris Bottler Brown

And now he's won a eighty seat majority. "This comment aged well"

According to Wikipedia, he would have been around 50 years old, a virgin? looking at him, wouldn't be surprised.

Edwina Currie could tell us a bit about that lol

To Edwina you mean, poor Norma was just a foil

I thought John Major liked spicy foods, if you know what I mean? 😂🤣

More peas dear?

Thank you

so how come, he was effectively resigning the Tory whip some 80 years after he died, as seen in this film?

@Greg AVFC That was an actor.

That was his great-grandfather. The John Gorst shown here was 28/06/1928 to 31/07/2010. He stood in the new seat of Hendon in 1997 (the boundaries had changed) and was beaten by Labour's Andrew Dismore. Dismore held that seat until he lost by 106 votes to the Tories at the 2010 election - note that John Gorst was still alive and could see the karma unfolding. Dismore served in the London Assembly until 2021 and no idea what he's doing now.

It won't lose it's majority but it might lose the next election slightly (big swing needed) unless Boris gets removed as leader (and if his gamble on omicron backfires)

@@thesmithersy Oh no of course not, but I wonder if there will be a point where it is virtually certain that the Tory's days in government are numbered and coming to an end. I'm still not entirely convinced that Labour are getting close to winning I have to say, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

@@Da1Dez Well I think that you're going to be proven wrong with how the current government is behaving lol

No. In fact Rishi Sunak is slowly regaining in the polls. Besides this government is a new generation of Tories.

@@SanFran51 slowly regaining? They’re massively behind and no one voted for him. He’s a globalist banker who will lose in a landslide.

Dementia setting in eh Herman?

Fingers crossed-Only 14 Mp's to get rid of before this happens.

only if labour gets rid of corbyn. personally, I don't have too much against him, but, let's be honest, he'll never be a PM.

She has an 8 seat majority, so she only needs to lose 4 more seats before she's pushed into that situation. If she wants to avoid being another Major, she needs to call an election this year and win it. What's more at least Major won in 1992. She's never won an election, so the result in 2020 could be a lot worse I.e. Labour win narrowly and the Lib Dems take 160 seats and the Tories in 3rd place probably. Providing Brexit goes wrong, she gets too close to Trump and Scotland almost leaves again. If Labour get rid of Corbyn, she could be in a whole heap of trouble........

Corbyn could very well be a PM. Opinion polls in the UK are mostly only taken in Conservative areas. The mainstream media is owned by billionaires, who are terrified of Corbyn because he'll stop them avoiding taxes, they put out polls to make Labour seem behind because they want to stop Labour voters going out to vote.

Which after both The last Election and The EU Referendum should be taken with a pinch of salt.

No it's because we had Tories for eighteen years. And it was proven obvious that The Tories were never going to recover after John Major's struggling leadership.

@@SanFran51 that's true. What's interesting is that John Major left the country in a much better state than it is now.

You would have been crushed in ‘92 if your cult kept thatcher

Michael ‘Hee Hee’ Jackson hmmm no. Lock at the 90 local elections

@@michaelheeheejackson7255 if someone as bland and boring as Major could’ve beat Kinnock there is no doubt Thatcher would’ve won 1992. At the end of the day the voters weren’t convinced that Labour wouldn’t put up taxes and weren’t impressed with Kinnock. I say this as someone with no real love of Thatcher and someone who wishes Kinnock had won.

​@@wessexfox5197what total nonsense. The whole reason Major won the 1992 election was because he was as unlike Thatcher as could be. The country and indeed the conservative party had had enough of Thatcher by then. She was consistently trailing in the opinion polls. Look at the Eastbourne by election.

​@@bojomay2952which the conservatives lost 222 seats and their vote share slumped to 33% with Labour's on 44%? Or how about the 1990 Eastbourne by election where the conservatives lost an ultra safe seat to the Lib Dems?

He was terminally boring.

The accident and emergency department closed in April 1997 and was not opened. The hospital itself is still open.

Despite the biggest vote count in election history.

​@Tiswaser, that was because of the higher turnout he actually had a less popular voter percentage than margaret thatcher had in 1987

John King Defections and by-elections that's how! Every time there was a by-election in a CON held seat they lost it heavily. Christchurch, Newbury, Eastleigh, Dudley West, Perth and Kinross, Littleborough and Saddleworth, SE Staffordshire and finally Wirral South which took place weeks before the GE.

From looking online, seems Black Wednesday really damaged Conservative party's image during that time, along with by-elections and defections.

Don't forget the Maastrict Treaty and Tory Sleaze

John Major was a decent man who was unfortunate in that he led a party that had become anything but decent. The huge divisions over Europe that were publicly aired, the almost constant 'sleaze' that seemed to be in the news every day, the fact that Labour had largely reinvented itself as a party of the centre with a young, charismatic leader and a message that resonated with the public plus of course things like the Poll Tax all conspired to put his back to the wall almost from the moment he took office as Prime Minister. He also followed a political giant (love her or hate her there's no doubt Thatcher was a towering figure in British Politics) and he simply wasn't one. All of that plus things like Black Wednesday meant he was on a hiding to nothing.

By-elections were much more frequent then because the average age of an MP was much higher so deaths were more common

No 1996 about 6 months before the 1997 election where St Blair of all bastards came into office

It was actually 6 December 1996, an early present for Christmas for the grey man! 😂🤣

I had no choice my first election at 18 years old* would you want Damian Green as your MP? stuck with him since 🤔he's been rubbish

Collette Post Never ever vote Labour they do not reward hard work.

olehomer1988 I know need to limit child benefit to a max of 3 we do not have birth rate problems anymore.

Import the 3rd world.....become the 3rd world.

Well when you have the Tories in for eighteen years and the fact The Tory Government had been going wrong five months after winning the 1992 election.

Especially on that thing about VAT on fuel bills. Nothing but socialist scaremongering. Oh well. 🙄

No way

PRODUCE YOUR VOICE MR. HUGHES!

@@wilsonfisk6626 *SPIT IT OUT, COME ON* 😂

And Callaghan

What about Ted heath

@@jamesrolfe6180 Don't know enough about the guy.

@@jasonkingshott2971 Gordon was a garbage chancellor during Major's leadership. Turns out he became an even worse PM

@@r.a1301 Brown wasn’t a Chancellor in Major’s government. He’s part of Labour not the Tories.

I can't. I have a brain

Yes.

Never in a million years.

…..and get welfare guzzling gimmegrants from the 3rd world.

Greg AVFC 69/70 Jones you need help, and a job, oh wait they found an immigrant better than you 😂😂😂