Love that "I was gonna play 'Wheel' but I changed my mind". Great. Just great, this man!!! Love you, John.

great find man! thank you

I would have been thrilled just to write a song like “Simmering”. But then he revamps it and it becomes “Belief”. Unbelievable.

This just goes to show that not everything you create has to come out perfect. It really takes guts to question your own piece of art and ask for what it needs to evolve to its best self and do it. This just inspires me to make more music and carve all of it beautifully, just like this man has done. I believe, John! :)

I like the guitar. Rough, unsteady, wrong, true. Love all of that.

Was totally expecting "is their anyone..."

I was at one of the first live shows where he debuted this years ago, and I remember loving it, and then when Belief came out I was like, crap he changed all the words..I love both songs, but this one holds a special place in my heart just because I heard it in the beginning live.

"I was gonna play wheel but I changed my mind" hahah pretty awesome

i was gonna play wheel but i changed my mind! damn john you really got me there... your a genius legend comedian sick guitar licker!!! john mayer all the way baby!!!

I love the rawness of this... it's better because of the Guitar playing here is slightly different .

I'm gonna be his next and final drummer (McCartney has had the same band for years now) for John's music. He just doesn't know it yet!

i must say i like the old chorus. i also like how he has no idea where he's going and references 3 or 4 other tunes.

amazing.. 10 years after. this music just grows on me.. this is the early stages of ''belief'' wow. so wonderfull..

Big find on the seemingly impossible quest to hear every JM original. Thanks a lot chaferbud. But more importantly. How the fuck did you find this!?

This is what you call a music maker songwriting man take your own lyrics and make a song from others you're like a fresh breath of air in the deepest darkest dungeon @johnmayer. #johnmayer 👏❤👀

Love hearing alternative songs that John is so good at doing. Thats why the guy never gets old to me.

As an aspiring song writer this is pretty inspiring that he basically took a great tune with bad lyrics and switched it up to make it a hit. That's awesome to me.

Anyone catch the 'Wheel' reference?

Such emotion in the delivery of the first 13 seconds

wow, just when I thought I've heard everything from Mayer, then comes this treasure. thx.

SO GORGEOUS...SO GORGEOUS! Thank you! And I agree with you. It's fascinating to experience the evolution of a song before it's officially recorded and Belief is a great example. I love the way Belief evolved during the Continuum tours.

That Wheel colaboration, if you can call it that, was ingenious! JM never fails to blow my mind.

it's like another awesome side of 'belief'. wow ! ! !

wow, more love this version.

crazy CRAZY solo man... LOVE IT

Omg. That solo, are you kidding me? And then a Clapton plug? Holy shit. Thanks so much chaferbud.

This one is one of my favorites too. Sounds amazing :)

Is there any way to know when it's over? When will you show her? Will you be done? Is there any day that slowly rolls over That will know that your last war was won How will you ever know? How will you know . . . How will you ever know when you're Sleeping at the crash site Walkin on the wreckage Somebody's past life, another one's older Where the fire burned, the grass began to grow Nobody walks there, everybody knows that Is there any way to know when it's over? When will you show her? Will you be done? Is there any day that slowly rolls over That will know that your last war was won How will you ever know? How will you know . . . How will you ever know when you're Sleeping at the crash site Walkin on the wreckage Somebody's past life, another one's older Where the fire burned, the grass began to grow Nobody walks there, everybody knows that OOhhh . . . How will you know? Simmering . . . How will you know, How will you know? Is there anyone who pulled it off easy Spoke what they were thinking and Moved on to the next city and Is there anyone who let them down gently and Moved on to the next, I don't know How will you know? Ooohh How will you know? That you been Sleeping at the crash site Resting on the wreckage Somebody's past life Somebody's old love Resting on the wreckage Somebody's old love Somebody's old love People have the right to fly And will when it gets compromised I was gonna play "Wheel" but now I changed my mind Sleepin' at the crash site . . . Sleepin' at the crash site . . . Sleepin' at the crash site . . . Restin on the wreckage So much old love So much old love I can feel your body when I'm lying in my bed There's too much confusion running round through Runnin round through . . .

MAN I LOVE THE WAY THIS SOUNDS

Three songs in one PLUS two solos. Only John.

MY GOD.. he's also put in 'old love' in it...... this is beyond brilliant !!! i LOVE IT

I'm only listening to this now. :') wow.

that sounds so insane

amazing how this is so different from belief.i need to re-listen.

This version is just as good as Belief for me, just in a different way. The atmosphere surrounding it is really interesting. Maybe because it's live?

I like the lyrics he wrote for belief

Love this one

Hey John you always say you want to write that song that makes people cry. We’ll stop this train can at times or never on the day you leave….but I’d say for me it’s this song simmering (belief demo) it’s so sad and haunting. It’s so beautiful and yet it’s so heartbreaking 💔 like so soul wrenching!

Wow!!! ❤ very nice!!!

I have had this on a cd from l-83 for years...I cannot believe that someone said this "used" to be Belief..no this was wayyyy before Belief..

wow the acoustic version of belief has a similar solo

I LOVE THIS VERSIONN

This made my day! Thanks for sharing (John?) :)

awesome find dude

My faveourite! Beautiful :)

Nice find!

I screamed when he started singing wheel lyrics

Still killed it in the solo section. Keeps me comin back

Crazy he scrapped these lyrics last minute and created belief! Just goes to shows just when you think your creation is complete, you could be completely wrong. Guessing it didn’t feel true to himself, cool to hear this version.

Really nice to see how a song can change, even if its core is basically the same. By the way, dear owner of this channel, how can you get this rare stuff? Just wondering

lol "i was gona play wheel, now i changed my mind"

hermosa version!

I like how he throws in Clapton lyrics too

the run from 4:30-4:50 is so sick

John MAJOR!

if you think this is a studio recording then YOU'RE the one on crack my friend.

I don't remember. I was looking up JM rarities and I heard of one called "Simmering" and I just searched everywhere for it. Got lucky i guess!

Anyone catch the 'Old love" reference?

it's interesting how different it sounds compared to the released Belief song

@nicolasgardner Wow, very cool. It makes my day that that meant something to you. I don't know if you would want any more info on the topic, but Carol Tuttle's book, "It's Just my Nature" is an incredible book. Everything that she offers has made a world of difference in me discovering my own true nature, and then knowing how to express it. Just a thought. Have a good life!

Omg its so weird hearing this...the lyrics are so different i think the lyrics after this version are better and fit better with the song as a whole...but.maybe it's just cause i'm used to it the other way.....

3/14/04 - Brandeis University

This is how Belief in alternate universe sounds like

it's like every feeling i've felt about life he makes into a good fucking pop song.

This one reminds me a lot of Sting. Wait, so is this a live recording? Was he playing this at concerts before it was even fully written? Or he basically had an earlier version of the song and it gradually evolved into Belief?

Leads to way more than SIMMERING

sick

Melodic drift.

i like this solo alot better .

@25Ragz Dude, I've seen you floatin' around Chaferbud's & other JM fan pages all over KZfaq and all you do is put them on blast. I'm subscribed to yours along w/all of theirs. The only difference is they don't trash on other channels. You're the only one who talks crap on how bad their content is or how "un-rare" the material is. For most fans, it is rare so give em a break. Low key I understand you want to have the reigning channel but Chaferbud has been loved for years so cut him some slack.

LMFAO OMFG "I was gonna play wheel but i changed my mind"

boa dms cara, vaiP PAPULLLLLL

Thank you for telling me.

haha sounds sick but im used to the lyrics of Belief :) lovemayer !!

I kinda like this one better. its a little bit more funk-ish to me than the original. I also like the melody.

The piece of Old love was fine, too. =) But the guitar solos are AWESOME!

This is so addictive. where can I download it?

the song that got him banned from the WEF and the media.. this was it..

2:51 Wheel lyrics then his punch line! 😂🙌

@mickoallen A very small distance of musical notes.. Like the difference between 350Hz and 349Hz. Can't really explain it too well in English anyway =P. But to be honest, there's no singer who sings perfectly clear on the right notes, it's always some 'millitones' higher or lower than the note it should be sang on. Like.. 1Hz to 10Hz difference (just my estimate).

@samiam1432 No, the waste is in never discovering one's own true nature. Somewhere in there you are every bit as amazing as John Mayer, but in your own unique way. I don't mean to sound cliche, but it is so true.

@lockheedrocketchick i want to thank you for this comment from the bottom of my heart !:)

should have kept this solo in the final version

@zonedout245 "I was gonna play wheel, but i changed my mind" lol mad funny he started to play it then wanted to solo

that arpeggio at 3:43 was too klean

Wish I could hear all of the lyrics.

bit of "Old Love" by Eric Clapton and Robert Cray at 4:15.

anyone know where i can find the lyrics for this version?

i've been all over the net..

Around 2003 he did another version it was unreleased and I can't find it ANYWHERE😭😭😭😭😭

yes

something tells me its secretly john who made a separate youtube channel to release demos and stuff just for fun, for fans

ah ah awesome " i was gonna sing Wheel, now i changed my mind" XD

definitely what he's getting at. pretty much stating religion can create a backlash towards many issues and a never ending cycle of war

What is the source for this recording?

i was gonna play wheel now i change my mind

4:15 old love -eric clapton

i only remember of Crash Twinsanity, I don't know why...

so much better than what made the cd (belief)

Me too.