my favorite!

A class act, this man. 👌 Love him, and that whiskey brand! 🥃

My jaw dropped when I heard him say that. I had thought I couldn't like the guy more than I already did. Salute!

Yo, legal grass here. John, Hendrix, and Im pretty happy.

@@BetrayerSlayerMusic are you me? Hahah that’s awesome

What happens if McWhorter loses a debate? Will you follow him a vigorously as before?

Good call

@@jonathanrapps879 I'd love to know what it is in Yiddish.

@@tyroneslothrop1243 vus machst a yid (what is a Jew doing/up to)

@@jonathanrapps879 Wow, thanks for that. Interesting that it rhymes in English but not in Yiddish, unlike, say, the title of the classic Yiddish theater piece Yidl Mitn Fidl (אידל מיטן פֿידל‎, "Yiddle With His Fiddle").

@@tyroneslothrop1243 haha nice. How you know so much about Yiddish?

I think he is too charitable to be so blunt, but I agree

He still has to ride the fence a bit to avoid being canceled..

Chomsky is not woke but he's definitely a cynical ideologue who's said & done a number of stupid things through the years

On issues of leftist censorship and corruption, Chomsky was always charitable

Chomsky had always lost his mind, the world has just now noticed.

Nice to see not so many righteous Pharisees on this channel. Never change, never change. LOL

I think that's pretty valid in there being a sense of victimization on all sides, that is the result of both real and imagined attacks from others. That will continue to grow as the fracturing of the country continues. I think careful study and open conversation of what the real harms we as individuals or in some ways groups* have afflicted on each other and coming to a settlement of sorts on that is key to mending the cracks. I do * annotate my group statement because a lot of blame/accountability is being hefted on individuals based on various arbitrary groupings people come up with. This mentality is the foundation of prejudice along any lines it is done.

This topic? Seems like poor and uneducated can replace "social justice" across the board.

I have a Jewish first name but no (local) Jewish relatives. Can anyone help with the origin of "k*ke" ? There seems to be two main reasons, perhaps it was some of both: a) The word for 'circle' in hebrew being 'kikel'. Immigrants to U.S. that only spoke and wrote Hebrew (not Arabic alpha-numerals) would not sign an X for their name due to it's Christian implication, so they wrote a circle or "O" instead. It mutated to one syllable - as many words have upon finding usage in the US - and so spread from Ellis Island immigration wiseacres to NYC and beyond. and/or b) German Jews would razz or tease Eastern Jews with the term as play on their last names ending in -ski and -ky/-ki Some say it's a), some b). Both have their doubtful aspects, so perhaps _neither_ is very accurate.

@@shaft9000 I can debunk a). The Hebrew word for "circle" is "igul" or "ma'agal".

That's why an in-person interview would have been better.

Anyone that deviates from orthodoxy is a right wing extremist.

i disagree

Because that fixes the problem, they don't want that.

Are left handed people predominantly more creative too? I doubt it.

If you belittle and try to "fix" them, as happened in some places in not too distant past, you bet they would use more profanity. ;)

P.S. the whole discussion on musical theatre at the end of this discussion was my favorite part. Did you two ever sing together?

You cannot really judge the response of a victim, but you can differentiate between public and private responses. For example, if I'm a victim of "X" I have a right to expect the people near me to be sensitive about my suffering. I should not expect everyone in the public arena to treat me as a victim. Not everyone experiences "X" the same.

Great questions!! As an amateur simply interested in this field (and ofc a black person) I can try and begin to answer these. But I'd love to hear an expert opinion from the likes of Kaufman or McWhorter. 1. I think you can tell when someone's response is disproportionate when they embody their trauma or hurt... When they identify as someone who has experienced x. For instance, I was depressed for a very long time, I was also poor, and have experienced my share of overt and subtle racism. When I was younger, I used to think of myself as a pessimist and sometimes even misanthropic. I thought it was natural to be so due to the things I've been through. I often would try to justify why I can/should be this type of person when questioned or otherwise challenged. Nowadays, I realized that these are simply things I have lived through.. they are experiences that have informed and maybe even shaped who I am, but they are not me. I am not a depressed person, even if I do struggle with depression. Similarly, I am not a victim of white supremacy, even though I do struggle with it. I am a person like any other trying to make my way through this world, and the struggles and traumas I experience are but waves and storms through which I sail through. I think when you see the world as such rather than let yourself become a victim, then you can find more agency in yourself, while also be more capable of communicating with those who dont see things the way you do. Because you realize that they too are not simply oppressors or evil people, but people trying to figure out how to live in the same world as you do, with their own waves and storms on this ocean of life. 2. Generational trauma has indeed been observed in epigenetics as well as in cultural aspects of our community. Some of these effects include a camaraderie with others who look the same, speak the same, or 'feel' like they experienced the same trauma. But it also is seen in generational poverty where people who never had a chance to experience wealth end up teaching the same coping mechanisms for poverty that they had to use to survive. And you also have those that have lived a certain type of lifestyle in order to achieve some level of 'success' also teach that to their young, even though much of it may just be survivorship bias. There's a ton of other ways that this generational trauma is exhibited, but I think those are some of the bigger ones. 3. Heh, the effect is denial. Constant gaslighting. Making so many people both of african descent and not to think of slavery and racism is not that big a deal... as old history with little to no bearing on today. Thus why something like being 'woke' and 'antiracist' can take such strong hold in the first place! Its the same phenomena you see with conspiracies and extremism. The fact that there were SOME conspiracies that were actually real but always dismissed by mainstream media and authorities makes new conspiracies (or more silly conspiracies) seem that much more likely. The truth is that african americans SHOULD have have been given reparations, and would have gotten them when the Confederates lost the war.. but the Union did not stay to actually see that happen, so those reparations were instead taken by the confederates and land owners. This is facts. And we are still paying for that mistake to this day (along with the effects of Jim Crow, the war on drugs, and mass incarceration). So though some people think its ridiculous to ask for reparations now... the fact that this is just a result of long overdue justice means such 'ridiculous' claims will not go away. Again, there are more examples of this than just slavery reparations (the wanton destruction of black communities like Tulsa and others for instance), but the general principles are the same. So long as America (and much of the European world) continues to gaslight PoC about the true impact their colonization and supremacist ideologies had on them, then we will continue to see radicalization and disunity. At least that's how I see it so far. Welcome to other perspectives!

There is some recourse, stop reading what an ex is posting online. While I think Elonis used vile speech, he did have disclaimers to indicate that his intent was to express himself artistically and he used rap lyrics as an example of this. Whether or not someone finds abhorrent lyrics to be of artistic value is irrelevant otherwise it becomes a trial of what is or isn't artistic expression. Had he not posted disclaimers alongside his words I would be more inclined to agree with you. It's not fair to conclude that his words were a credible threat or even meant to be perceived as a credible threat when he had posted clear disclaimers alongside his vile words stating that his intent was not to threaten and that his words were artistic expression. It is a very slippery slope if we allow government employees to subjectively assign intent or label past expressions of intent made by an individual as being disingenuous unless there is substantial proof to determine otherwise. There is, however, another requirement when determining whether a crime was committed that should be considered, one which you are ignoring when falsely claiming that the justices' ruling left potential victims without recourse. The lyrics or words, whatever you want to refer to them as, used by Elonis were posted on his facebook page. Just like any malicious communication or harassment case, federal law requires that the harassing or threatening speech be sent directly to a victim, victim's family, or victim's intimate partner. If read or listen to his posts as well as requesting that family or friends also refrained from reporting his postings to her. The whole argument about whether or not the words used demonstrated intent is irrelevant if he wasn't engaging in the intended act of sending them directly to his ex, her family, or a new intimate partner. Lastly, your claims of permanent injury by threat in the context of that particular case and ruling are hyperbolic. Every case is different, but at some point a considerable amount of responsibility falls on an individual that continually exposes themselves or allows others to expose them to things that are harmful to them outside of their immediate home or presence. If an addict keeps seeking out a harmful substance they bear some of the responsibility for unwanted consequences. Same thing goes for anyone that purposefully seeks out potentially harmful interactions with a toxic ex when that toxic ex isn't the one sending them direct messages or voicemails. He should have every right to post whatever he wants to say if he isn't forcing her to hear it, which he wasn't. It'd be foolish to blame the sun just because there are people whom experience permanent eye damage from unprotected viewing of a partial eclipse despite having prior knowledge about the risks involved.

I think it was something about he would think it too simple an explanation.

Question for you: can you grow from your lack of conscience or will you let your narcissism define the rest of your life?

@Scott L - being equally judgemental and relentless, what is your question to white culture? 🤔

@@Mr._Moderate I have given this a lot of thought, so here goes: White Culture, can you stop trying to save "Black Culture"?

@@scottl6384 if that's the result of "giving it a lot of thought" while EQUALLY judgemental your family, your teachers and your community has failed you 👍 If you perpetually look at blacks as victims what does that make you? 🤔

Our society simply does not even talk about the cops that get killed by civilians .. you might see a 2 minute blurb on Fox about it but that’s it. It’s very rarely if ever talked about in discussions like this

@@billsimms2511 I like to distinguish between civilians and criminals. Cops are not at war with the near universal set of civilians. Cops are properly at war with the smaller set of criminals, civilian or otherwise. (Cops can also be criminals.) Opposing cops and civilians reinforces the BLM narrative that cops are out to get us all. Hopefully, they are out to get all criminals, and more power to them.

Thanks Ahmad, I greatly appreciated your comment. :)

It's the opposite , McWhorter has tried to engage a meeting or a debate with Kenji for a good while now ...

Truth vs pretense

"Justice" is the "moral principle determining just conduct". It determines what is right from what is wrong, what is fair and what is unfair, what is just from what is unjust. The administration called "justice" then judges individuals who breach the laws, that were themselves designed to fix what should be considered right or wrong. Social justice is a little different in that it takes a lot more into account the status of one person/group of people and try to give more to those who have less/who are disadvantaged so that everyone can have the same opportunities in the end. Redistributing wealth, for example, falls into the realm of "social justice".

@@jmeckle1 you're incorrect 👎

@@Mr._Moderate Care to expand? It seems to me that defining justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society is more akin to the Kafka symbol of Justice with wings than an unbiased progression toward objective truth and reality.

@@jmeckle1 you already know what social justice is and pretense is not it

I am not familiar with that entire topic, would you mind pointing me in the direction of what you're talking about?

What was his weak point in that debate? He argued against one of its central theses, that slavery was a reason for the fight for independence in the U.S. if I recall.

True. Why does Russia have the highest number of people with antisocial inclinations? CULTURE! Note, that the USA isn't that far behind, it's catching up rather quickly. ;)

Why does it matter which fake label you choose to wear?

And now he won’t say the K-word! What a @?#%*!!

…and now “the other F-word”?! How wimpy can you get?