John Ruskin & William Morris Aesthetics documentary by Peter Fuller

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Praxis Aesthetics

Praxis Aesthetics

6 жыл бұрын

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@itzakpoelzig330
@itzakpoelzig330 Жыл бұрын
For anyone else who's just here for Morris, that part starts at 55:30.
@cattenborrow
@cattenborrow Жыл бұрын
😉
@storycome
@storycome Жыл бұрын
👍
@Frisenette
@Frisenette 5 жыл бұрын
Why can’t we make quality television like this anymore?! No hokey embarrassing dramatization, no sensationalism with drawn out cliffhangers, no godawful colourgrading or hysteric music. Just tight, beautiful, in-depth and well rounded.
@tugger
@tugger 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, how would you make Victorian morris and the pre raphaelites extra spicy?
@18daisydoll65
@18daisydoll65 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@28cosmos
@28cosmos 4 жыл бұрын
Because it is not 'cool'. The connotations of the word 'serious' are now limited to boring, Everything boring is bad and undesirable. Hence. We reject not just quality television like this, as you mention, but we also reject people who do not fit into that profile. Also, THIS is cool. And the constant desperation to be cool is uncool.
@leandrokillian9202
@leandrokillian9202 2 жыл бұрын
instaBlaster...
@Mythologos
@Mythologos 2 жыл бұрын
Because television is made by idiots.
@chrissyward5539
@chrissyward5539 10 ай бұрын
I just finished 600 pages of Ruskin by Tim Hilton. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@Timur18056
@Timur18056 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading. The Morris episode, from a distance of almost 40 years is absolutely fascinating.
@stephenkunst7550
@stephenkunst7550 4 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that many aspects of what Morris and Ruskin were preaching, have not made it to the 21st century. The art world does not see craft as being very important, and more of a step child to their erudite concept of worthy arts. As public schools dismantled the many great kinesthetic and technical programs, which were part and parcel of the craft movement, artists and art educators, stood by silently, saying nothing, and in some cases acted as though they were more worthy as they felt the Liberal-arts & classical priests tacitly invited art educators to be part of the new college trajectory in education. The well rounded student is to have a taste of the arts, though only as a bit of relaxation from the grind of the "core" subjects.
@andreaandrea6716
@andreaandrea6716 Жыл бұрын
Well... as someone who goes on and on about this sort of thing, as friends and family roll their eyes, I'd say you have to have an elephant's hide to simply keep objecting and speaking up. I do! I keep speaking up (about THIS and many other abominations (too strong a word?) of our new technically advanced but socially aberrant world). I love your comment. I wish I ran into more comments like yours. It makes me feel less lonely. I worry that no one cares about the visual and tactile Arts (any part of them) at all. I watch (am obsessed by) all the shows about houses (people buying houses, building them, selling them, expanding them, DESIGNING them, moving from one to another, etc.). And what I notice is... very very few people have paintings on their walls. When did we fall out of love with Art? And now, people use their hands less and less... and don't know how to repair things. I very much appreciate your comment.
@OxenHandler
@OxenHandler 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this! It is the best documentary on these times, issues, men I have ever seen. Much to follow up on here.
@kayfletcher4169
@kayfletcher4169 3 жыл бұрын
I visited Brantwood many years ago and have always wanted to go back. This is a wonderful, serious documentary. Really glad I found it. Thank you
@susanhepburn6040
@susanhepburn6040 3 жыл бұрын
A fascinating insight into the lives and thought of two unique individuals- thank you so much for sharing these films. They must be turning in their graves...
@marcaskew61
@marcaskew61 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and fascinating programs - thanks so much!
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 10 ай бұрын
I have a soft spot for William Morris! I can understand his dedication to crafts as an artform.
@carolking6355
@carolking6355 4 жыл бұрын
Well done and so interesting.
@18daisydoll65
@18daisydoll65 4 жыл бұрын
Information v entertainment. And here, happily, information triumphs.
@kaanyildiz5659
@kaanyildiz5659 6 жыл бұрын
thank u so much!
@soulak6332
@soulak6332 3 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT IN EVERY RESPECT!!
@22marketst
@22marketst Жыл бұрын
Love these documentaries much of the content of which is more pertinent than ever. The trip through Hammersmith - even if a little dated now still says it all ! I remain grateful however for the wonderful artistic works in all their forms not least the architecture which we can still enjoy and be astounded by today - although I despair at the diminishing ideals of another kind of world where humanity is not expropriated and commoditised in cruel and destructive ways. The story of the 'Pre-Raphaelite' women is however archetypal in itself as patriarchal ideas are not easily disentangled from a 'socialist' Utopian context.
@viktoriyafeldman437
@viktoriyafeldman437 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and enjoyable
@johnmartin2813
@johnmartin2813 3 жыл бұрын
William Morris was also an early teacher of Yeats.
@AleadaA
@AleadaA 3 жыл бұрын
Please remember that Ruskin's wife Effie was later married to the Pre-Raphaelite - John Everett Millais - their marriage was quite the interesting scandal -interesting even today! Effie claimed that Ruskin never consummated the marriage of several years while with her and she was able to obtain an annulment.
@sarahfoster2368
@sarahfoster2368 2 жыл бұрын
It is stated in the documentary that Effie later married Millais.
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 10 ай бұрын
AleadaA, Effie didn't just claim that Ruskin never had sexual intercourse with her. She was examined by two physicians, and they found that she was right. She was still a virgin after having been married to Ruskin for 6 years! But it has never been cleared up why the marriage was never consummated. The marriage was annulled because of Ruskin's alleged incurable impotence. But it's not at all certain if Ruskin was really impotent or if he just didn't want to have a sexual relationship with Effie.
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen2838
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen2838 5 жыл бұрын
0:16 RIP my headphones. Very enjoyable documentary btw.
@marclayne9261
@marclayne9261 4 жыл бұрын
'John Ruskin: sermons & stones', by Paul Dean, a freelance critic, living in Oxford, UK..The New Criterion, November 2019 issue...p 18....
@jordanlangton381
@jordanlangton381 5 жыл бұрын
sopranos??!?!!?! asked mark .....ruskin replied jerry
@tillerman7272
@tillerman7272 3 жыл бұрын
"fuck! I thought I killed 20 minuted of William Morris" -Mark Corrigan
@paulnugent9937
@paulnugent9937 Жыл бұрын
Epic rant at 11’28”. Bravo!
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 10 ай бұрын
paulnugent, yes, I felt the same! The claim that his disastrous marriage to Effie Gray was just a minor blip in Ruskin's productive life, is rather silly. And if Ruskin had really married Rose La Touche, that marriage might've failed as well. These episodes are important for understanding Ruskin. That said, he was a great and very unique thinker!
@jmm8476
@jmm8476 3 күн бұрын
Is that a young Jonathan pryce doing voice over on part two?
@arlieferguson3990
@arlieferguson3990 4 жыл бұрын
They don't make them like this anymore
@jspohl
@jspohl 2 жыл бұрын
Like 1,000 ✨
@Jon-mh9lk
@Jon-mh9lk Жыл бұрын
1:23:11 I hate this kind of pathologizing people through the Freudian concept of "sublimation". But I guess such a way of thinking was and still is popular with people who are overly or should I say "pathologically" obsessed with sexuality (I have seen a lot of similar evaluations of other artists, scholars and scientists... it gets on my nerves).
@andreyarborough
@andreyarborough 3 ай бұрын
51:00 dark cloud
@ncooty
@ncooty 8 ай бұрын
@11:27: That guy had issues. Calm down, bud.
@lk8856
@lk8856 4 жыл бұрын
God did make the earth. That’s the truth.
@debralegorreta1375
@debralegorreta1375 3 жыл бұрын
Which God? Mammon?
@jackieOAT
@jackieOAT 3 жыл бұрын
@@debralegorreta1375 I bet my money on Brahma, first one to take credit for creating the Earth ;-)
@pyewackett5
@pyewackett5 2 жыл бұрын
Ruskins lovelife was as successful as Morris's. For different reasons however
@picasso114
@picasso114 2 жыл бұрын
Those damn pre-Raphaelites lol
@homerfj1100
@homerfj1100 4 жыл бұрын
He spent the last 30 yrs of his life there?. Somewhat priveiliged existence one could surmise?.
@theeggtimertictic1136
@theeggtimertictic1136 3 жыл бұрын
38:11 He got very skilled labour on the cheap from Ireland ... that doesn't sound very socialist to me!
@jackieOAT
@jackieOAT 3 жыл бұрын
I find it amusing how these people are portrayed, in those times most of the artists were incredibly privileged, historians elevate them as they are some semi-gods. They were rich! How many potentially amazing artists died and they never had a fricking chance to prove their potential, because they were poor people without education?!..and those pesky maids (7:00) bothering him about sunset...
@theeggtimertictic1136
@theeggtimertictic1136 3 жыл бұрын
1:46:40 Did he just admit to theft ? 🙄
@andregroenewald6273
@andregroenewald6273 6 жыл бұрын
turner ewatercolours
@sabineb.5616
@sabineb.5616 10 ай бұрын
It's absolutely nonsense to claim that Ruskin's failed marriage to Effie Gray was a trivial matter! It's totally understandable that Ruskin himself tried to downplay this scandal. But no matter how you look at it, it's weird. And if he would've married Rose La Touche, he might've failed to make that marriage work, as well. I think that the upbringing as a spoiled only child by his overly religious and possessive parents hindered him to develop healthy social relationships. That said, these lurid episodes should not overshadow Ruskin's many achievements. He was a truly great thinker! And whatever his parents got wrong - they realized that their son was special and they supported him no matter what.
@vincentdesapio
@vincentdesapio 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding William Morris, and what has been the benefit of all this automation? Less expensive products for the consumer. Why should a consumer pay more for something made by a craftsman if he can get the same or similar item from a machine? Should the consumer pay more just to fill the craftsman with job satisfaction?
@turbotrout8216
@turbotrout8216 4 жыл бұрын
In the end Morris actually admitted this himself- he knew that his pieces were too expensive for average wage people which was his target audience in the first place.
@pyewackett5
@pyewackett5 4 жыл бұрын
Morris was not against machine. But a craftsman has individuality , creativity , has satisfaction & pride in their work & the finished product reflects this. Quantity over quality. It's a personal choice at the end of the day.
@DefamedRice
@DefamedRice 3 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Soetsu Yanagi interprets Morris' ideas to the point where the machine is not only useful, but helpful, in making the work of craftspeople easier and more widely available. I don't think the question is the machine, but the use of the machine itself, and the docu kind of pushes this idea by comparing craftsmen using "primitive" (or rather, 19th/early 20th century) machines versus factory workers pressing buttons. Morris I think is worried about the machine supplanting the work of the hands, and it's not necessarily that he's a luddite, but that he believes at a certain point the machine becomes to author of the article and it no longer has any human relationship between craftsman and user. It's a little romanticized, but knowing the man it's hard to fault him for these sorts of conclusions.
@taketen1990
@taketen1990 3 жыл бұрын
Prevention of Sexual Assault, Mandatory Classes, for 6th thru 12th grade. This will reduce the criminal element, 20 or 25 years, from now. U.S Military and Police Agency, must become more educational in these schools, in U. S.A.
@jewelhovland2283
@jewelhovland2283 2 жыл бұрын
Men. Well, more precisely: male ego.
@cheric35
@cheric35 6 ай бұрын
Dramatic man, his contributions seem unrecognized beyond his industry, and his commentary even less so.
@xyzllii
@xyzllii 6 жыл бұрын
Good docu. Except the MEN keep talking about the male workers...their satisfaction...etc..as if half the workers at this time were not women. They were. I want to see more of the work. drawings of Ruskin.. Not men shaking their hands about so called describing it.
@kathbaker1550
@kathbaker1550 6 жыл бұрын
The film is an artefact of its time. Like everything else.
@OxenHandler
@OxenHandler 6 жыл бұрын
Women in the arts and crafts movement is discussed briefly beginning @1:16:30 in the video.
@tugger
@tugger 5 жыл бұрын
@Neighborhood Nationalist fellas like you are why burdizzos sell
@franzbiberkopf9179
@franzbiberkopf9179 4 жыл бұрын
You find drawings of Ruskin in his masterpiece "Modern Painters"
@ria1636
@ria1636 3 жыл бұрын
@Vir Nobilis No, women were not all housewives during the time of Ruskin.
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