The war council scene is also my favorite. I sat there thinking “my god Timothee is absolutely amazing””. What a film and actor.

I believe Chani is the anchor of this story. All characters are being swept by their Ambitions... while Chani and her love of Paul and her people of Dune seems more selfless than the rest. Zendaya nails it to me. It's the last scene of the film for a reason and its importance will become clear. Imo

Javier Bardem gave an Oscar winning performance… It was mesmerising!!

I've been spoiled with Oppenheimer and then Dune Part 2 in IMAX. Both will be top, unforgettable cinematic experiences for me. What a great time to be alive

I got goosebumps when Paul walks into the sietche with the war drums banging.

Paul was never supposed to be the Kwisatz Haderach. Jessica went rogue and had a son with Leto, when she was supposed to have a daughter. That daughter was meant to give birth to the true Kwisatz Haderach. Paul was a generation early.

Speaking of Alia scenes. When Jessica ingests the water of life. The effects showing Alia in the whome was mind bending. Her eyes widening as a fetus as she leveled up. gave me chills!!

One scene that stood out to me was Gurney showing Paul and everyone else the hidden armory for safekeeping. As Gurney explained the weapons and their potential impact, Paul gave a small smirk. The expression to me could’ve meant two things. Firstly, up until that moment, Paul had been training with the Fremen and fighting alongside them using whatever they had, I think he was glad to see something powerful from his homeland that his dad put there making him proud. Alternatively, the smirk might suggest Paul was drawn to the armory's power, potentially fueling a sense of hunger for power and embracing darkness. Notably, as the camera cuts to Chani, her expression reveals the opposite, indicating she sees a change in him. Or all of this is just in my head.

I wish you had Ann in the spoiler discussion. She is really good at talking about film.

Paul arriving at the war council is one of the most epic gigachad moments in film history.

The director said we will see how they get off the warms in the next movie. He said it’s an important aspect.

I was convinced Timothee was a great actor after seeing him in The King.

I feel so grateful that this film even exists. It's a masterpiece!

the ending when Jessica was talking to her unborn child about what's happening. and say's "the holy war has just begun" reminded me of the ending of attack of the clones. and it gave me chills

That War Council scene was the physical embodiment of how I feel every time I call my I.T. department and they tell me that something can't be fixed.

I actually love how Chani was written and portrayed. She’s more independent, free thinking, and she knows as well as Paul and Jessica do that the prophecy is a lie that can only lead to a holy war. Also while I wish that they stayed together at the end I really like that she leaves Paul and everyone else behind because A) Chani didn’t want to be Paul’s concubine while he married Irulan, even though they both know he will only ever truly love Chani, and B) she fought only to free her people from the emperor, not help a new one wage a jihad against the universe. She may know deep down that there was no other way, be she will not be part of this holy war.

people who shit on timothee chalamet often haven't seen his movies and are just judging him based on how popular he is as a ~heart throb, thinking it's all there is to him. very leo coded tbh!

The reason he doesn’t talk it out with the Great Houses is the same reason Dr. Strange gives away the time stone. One way through

The Atreides arena fighter that wasn’t drugged who’s the IRL fight coordinator was in Dune Part 1 as Lt. Lanville on the Atreides Council. He’s sitting at the table when they have the council meeting in the 1st movie. Caught it after my 2nd or 3rd viewing. He had a goatee due to being in captivity. Love Denis’ attention to detail.

Maud'dib's mic drop speech. IT HAD A FREMEN NAME. Good god! One of the best scenes ever But lady Jessica was absolutely BRILLIANT. DARK AS HELL. but doing what she needs to do. Love it. Chani was good with facial expressions. Like i saw the heartbreak and the questions and the frustrations right on her face Stigler was so good. Obviously anton chigur is untouchable, but this was great.

The reason people think Tomothee Chalamet is overrated is because teenage girls like him. And in our society whenever teenage girls like something or someone people tend to have this kneejerk reaction of thinking it's unworthy.

I absolutely loved the movie, but there was one part that left me scratching my head. It was the part where Paul is supposed to cross the desert overnight to prove that he's a Fremen. Chani ends up following him and they show a montage of them practicing the sand walk. All of the sudden it cuts to Harkannen dropping spice miners and DOZENS of Fremen are hiding under the sand, including Paul and Chani. It felt like they cut a scene out there and it was a bit confusing. Anyone else notice that?

i heard paul say you die like an animal … reminded me of the scene of the bene gesserit saying an animal caught in a trap would gnawl off its own paw to escape.. the way baron called the great houses was him knawing his paw

They get off the worm, by slowing it down as much as possible using the process of lifting multiple segments of the worm's skin. The worm slows because sand is penetrating its skin. And, they just throw ropes off it and scale down. The last one off removes the maker hooks and scales off. In the book, when they take a trip to the southern hemisphere, they have to repeat this on something like 20 worms.

Jessica taking the water of life opened her mind up to all of her ancestral memories and those of all the reverend mothers before her. That's why she became manipulative, cuz she had thousands of other personalities talking her through the bene gesserit master plan

Lasers plus shields = atomics is something that never gets touched on in the film but is a big part of the source material - it's why they switched away from lasguns and towards swords when shields get introduced. The harvester obviously can't use shields because it will attract the worm, but thopters don't have the same restriction because they never touch the ground - so I think by not using the lasguns until after the thopter gets knocked out, they avoid triggering a nuclear blast and accidentally killing their messiah if they misfire or clip the thopter. Just my 2c

I saw someone refer to the Dune popcorn bucket as Shai Hal-ussy and I thought that was hysterical

I've only seen Dune 2 once and plan to see it multiple times. I really enjoyed it but hard to take it all in. The movie is really dense. The only issue I had with it has been echoed by a few people here. The final battle was "short" in the sense that my thought as I was watching it was "I saw all of the worm attack in the trailers". It was beautifully filmed and makes you just sit there in awe in your seat, but I was expecting a bit more. Maybe showing the Freemen dismount the worms, more hand to hand or maybe just showing the worms completely crushing thousands of the Sardaukar.

Well remember dune is based on the book that was written in 1965 so it means avatar copied dune

The King crawled so Timothee could fly in Dune part 2!

I think Mads Mikkelsen would have been perfect as the emperor. He would be totally believable as the emperor of the entire universe. And he would have played the arrogance that led him to underestimate Paul perfectly! I kind of had to laugh a little bit when I saw Walken, because he is Christopher Walken.

Idk why John thinks people will be mad at Dune: Messiah as the book tells it, because even in Part 1 it is already clear that Paul taking power will result in untold suffering, to the entire Imperium and also to himself. Dune; Messiah is really the logical conclusion to a rise to power narrative that ends with the hero upending the entire political system and concentrating power onto himself

The actress for lady jessica should get an academy award for best supporting actor, when she drank the worm juice her skills were insane. They couldnt even show timmy trying that scene.

The guy who Feyd fought who wasn't drugged was in part one quite alot. He says shields he tells Duke the doors must close cuz sun is coming down he always next to Leto aswell. He's in it more than that one scene U mentioned . Rewatch part one U will see him all throughout the first half of dune part one.

I feel that Christopher Walken and Florence Pugh weren't given that much to do - maybe some scenes got cut that allowed them to do that, but their performances suffered a bit especially Christopher Walken's.

I agree with John that Paul’s army at the end with its millions of Fremen fundamentalists had to simply shock and awe the Emperor’s forces. After all, eventually they will take on the Great Houses! The battle scene accomplished the message that Paul’s army could not be stopped at that point, and it did not have to be longer. When they take us inside and show the perspective from the besieged Emperor and company, it is amazing! I am also so glad that the bullies Baron and Rabban were quickly ended unceremoniously, deserving as complete pigs. And Feyd too was not built up as large a boss as some may want (but not me). I think this bully also just needed to be terminated with no glorification. It just took a bit longer, but Paul bested him-and we love it…

I do not think John has ever read the book.

Dune is Godfather level good

"Lead them to paradise." When Chalamet said that it sent a chill down my spine.!

As far as theater experiences go, this was so incredible and immersive. Breathtaking images and it felt like an earthquake in my chair during the action and sand worm scenes, I could feel it in my bones.

That glimmer in Bardem’s eyes when he asks Muad’dib what does he see for them. It captures the look of a man that has waited his entire life for this exact moment. It’s pure movie magic.

That comment went full nerd when he said "Gaius Helen Mohaim" instead of just Reverend Mother 😂

Beginnings Are Such Delicate Times…..Hans zimmer knock it out of the park with this track. One of my old time favorites.

In the beginning when harks start flying loved that

Hey John, Love your content. Yes, your subscriber @ZonaNights was completely correct in stating that the lasers + shields = ATOMIC explosion. It was in the Dune novel. Keep up the great work and continue to have fun doing what you love.

Paul is also the heir of House Harkonnen. Uncle Fayd

The scene of Lady Margaret seducing Feyd was so hypnotic, gave me Under The Skin vibes😂 would love to have seen more scenes on Geidi Prime

It's funny that she called Paul 'Abomination' when that's actually what they call Alia in the books

watching your open spoiler for dune 2 while playing dune 2 soundtrack is just even better

I seen it twice, and I can’t wait to watch it with the captions.

I watched part 2 in Imax with IDX. The seats had speakers in them. When a punch is landed, you could feel it. Worms rumblimg, you could feel. When the Freemen rejoice in Paul, it feels like you are a Fremen in the middle of it.

God I'm just so happy that a film like this exists and to have witnessed it in the theater with an audience. As a film fan, I’ve always waited for a film and theater experience like this, especially since I never got the chance to experience something like Lord of the Rings in theaters. This is the type of film that takes you out of your own reality, making you feel as if you are in the actual movie and feeling as if you are one of the characters, experiencing their emotions and point of views in the purest way as it can get. Cinephiles of this generation should really cherish this moment.

Top 3 scenes for me. When chani taught paul the sand walk, so beautiful. Feyd birthday and the war council scene. Also at first i thought the battle at the end was too easy until i take into account part 1 and how many L’s house atreides took.

I know what you mean about Zendaya. Her line "don't bother" when Paul asks her what they're talking about is an entirely different accent, that is not used again in the entire film lol. By far her best performances were done through expressions. Especially in the tent scenes, when Paul talks about the ring and the artillery, or during the fight scene at the end. I really loved her character, she played it really well.

How do they get off the worm. Explained in the books: when the worm is released it buries itself deep so they run all the way down the length of the worm and jump off its butt. They can also tire it out until it seriously slows down. To get on: once the worm is captured and starts running on top of the sand, the rider can slow it down for everyone else to climb up. The “luggage” is brought up on repulsers.

Getting a group of people with tents on a worms is the new "How do you use the 3 seashells?"

Laser reflects from shield straight back to the gun that fired it. Then BiG Boom. It's in the books

Sorry to say I’ve not really seen a lot of you since collider but man thank you for this video… I needed this 😂

Schindler's List also came out in 1994 and both Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes lost at the Oscars despite some of the best performances of their careers. 1994 was a HUGE year!

8:00 I liked Zendaya a lot. Some things Tim and Zendaya said to each other felt like 2024 and not 10,131.

Thopter was shielded so couldnt use Laz guns on it without creating an atomic explosion.

In the film spice was treated as a macguffin and the Spacing Guild is not even mentioned in Part 2 and a Guild Heighliner was not even shown. By the end of the movie we are given the impression the Spacing Guild has sided with the Royal Houses because the Landsraad will do as the Spacing Guild tells them. How can the Fremen even leave Dune without the support of the Spacing Guild?

Walken as the emperor also talked like a mobster leader not an emperor.

Regarding the messianic prophesies of the benefits gessuit being strangely accurate. "Many men tried the water of life and died" what did they see and say before dying? I think they saw pieces of the future and screamed them out while dying.

The pre order for the DVD combo steel box is here. Does that mean it could be released in a couple months ? That would be awesome!

I'll tell you how Denis Villeneuve can resolve the dangling Chani issue from the end of Part 2 ..Dune Messiah starts a couple of months after Chani leaves Paul, who's now off to war with the Freman. Jessica is giving birth to baby Alia in a deep desert sietch and sends word for Chani to be by her side. Chani shows up, Jessica gives the Wives Speech, tells her about being a concubine to Leto and convinces her to give Paul a second chance. An unknowingly pregnant Chani then leaves to fight by Paul's side in battle, where she has a miscarriage, bringing her and Paul back together and solid, with promises of trying for more children in the future. Cut to 16 yrs later, (SPOILER ALERT!!) Paul and Chani are ruling over the empire, still trying to get pregnant, Alia is doing her Alia things, Irulan is spiking Chani's food, political intrigue is turned up to 11, Duncan (Hayt) arrives, the stoneburner, wild stuff, followed by the heartbreaking ending, with the Twins being born and the aftermath of their birth. Ending with Paul walking blind into the desert. If the audience doesn't leave the theater both exhilarated and heartbroken, the entire series will be a failure, no matter how great it looks onscreen. At its heart, Dune is a tragic love story. And, the Twins MUST be in the end of the movie. It's Paul's fear of the Golden Path that wins in the end, forcing his fate upon Leto II, who goes on to become the God Emperor. I hope Denis Villeneuve reconsiders and eventually makes Children of Dune. After all, Paul's story doesn't really end until the Preacher is murdered. Besides, I would love to see Anya Taylor-Joy play a mad-as-a-hatter Alia, possessed by granddad. It would be wild! Anyway, that's how the film can be adapted and still be true to the story.

Seen it twice, I'm trying to get tickets to 70mm, whenever new showtimes are available

A handful of people i know who saw it said the same thing: epic movie but some things cut very quickly & left us confused on what just happened

The worm riding was funny cause when I watched it with my dad and brother my dad leans over to me, and says “how the hell do they get off the worm” 😂😂😂😂

I too wondered how they get off the worms. Especially how they got Jessica with her little pod off

The reason why people fight with swords in dune is because the shields only allow slow moving objects through so guns would be imeffective. Its an awesome excuse to have large scale battles lord of the rings esque battle scenes if you ask me

Joh: Patrick Stuart played Gurney Halleck in the Lynch adaption. Also, Jessica is the daughter of the Reverend Mother and Baron Harkonnen for the breeding program. The Rev. Mother also afflicts the Baron with a degenerative disease that makes him into what we see (grossly swollen).

I really love Christopher Walken’s Emperor. I am overjoyed that he got a chance to be in this greatest spectacle of recent times. His grand presence here reminds me of his work during the time he won an Oscar for “The Deer Hunter”. Before he became better known for his “Walken-isms”…

Saw Dune 2 in the latest IMAX in New England. A guy 2 rows ahead of me was watching Dune 1 on his phone, finishing the movie seconds before ours started, pretty smart for a awesome double feature

Beside Paul saying Chani will come back he also has the vision in the first movie where she is standing next to him on Caladan.

timothee chalamet is great in the french dispatch as well, he has a very strong screen presence despite his softspoken and subdued demeanor. also, i really liked christoopher walkens performance as the emperor, however i feel like his wardrobe and the set dressing for the locations he appeared at should have been more opulent. like he wears that same drab grey robe throughout the whole movie, when he should have been wearing something very ornate. also his throne was very tame as well, its called the golden lion throne, but it didnt look like it should be called that.

Literally, my reaction to this video release was jumping up and down and going yessssssss inside 😂😂😂🤣🤣

What I will say is that if the last big fight scene was "bigger" it would eat out the budget to a point were other important scene would be lessen. In sci-fi it is better to keep the big epic scene at the minimum but flesh out story lore and character. (music costume set piece) subjective yes. But something to consider.

I think the Fremen can make the worm stop if they want to get off. They could steer the worm with their hooks. Maybe they can make it stop by pulling both of them at the same time🤷‍♂️. And their were these holes under the worms scale. Maybe the do something with that 😂 idk. And in the scene in the end where the worm suddenly appeared out of the sand cloud, it was "standing still". So they don't move all the time. And If they know how to stop a worm, I think one of the Fremen just attracts the worm, rides it and makes it stop so the other Fremen can get on. That's my theory. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Here in Australia a 4k blu-ray 2-pack of both films is up for preorder. I was holding out on buying the first film in hopes of a bundle so this is great news to me.

For Zendaya critcism, i agree, she is still good in this movie but it feels like its director choice or bad take for her was chosen in editing. Id have to watch it again but lacks being lived in Arrakis. Its that thing where face and hair are too clean and well kept for being in the desert. A bit too care free attitude compared to the rest of the Fremen. I understand the Walken criticism too, it just didnt have the same gravitas as the other characters, when the emperor is scheming or worried about being found out, we didnt get those close up shots of the eyes or frown or anything to show the emotions like you see with other great actors. To be fair Ferguson, Chalamet , Butler, Skarsgard, Bardem, Brolin and so on were just bringing top of their game to this movie. lady jessica gave me chills , just great performances

Dune Part I felt like it was missing something and was not complete. Dune Part 2 felt complete and satisfactory.

the first line of the movie is spice is power. the entire ,movie theyre enterupting the houses flow of spice production and litterally living on it and eating it in theyre food, of course theyre going to be a force at the end. not even speaking its their home turf, another advantage, it all adds up how they staem rolled the emperor at the end

Would've been great for the author to have been alive to see this film. But I guess, as with Lord of the Rings, it takes big leaps in cinema technology and one of a kind film makers, to get these epics made.

Saw Dune 2 Thursday first time in a cinema were the chairs actually felt like they were moving cause the sound design was so loud. Had a great time.

Saw Dune 2 Yesterday - Amazing - sat in row 7 or 9 (recliner seating at Landmark cinemas in Canada) I think that when I go see it again I might actually Choose to sit front or Second row -- to get Totally immersed in the show!

The whole "desert spring's water brings Lisan Al Gaib back" thing was made up for the movie. Chani's name in the books isn't Siyaha. That's a petname that's just a petname that Paul uses for her. They mention this as her name, and she says "it's part of the dumb prophecy" to further expand her role and her importance. But this actually makes it so that it makes even less sense for Chani to reject the prophecy. Because now, not only is Paul fulfilling EVERY part of the prophecy. But now we also have Chani who is herself part of the prophecy. A part that she fulfills.. she even intentionally mixes her tear with the water of life. But she still doesn't believe?

Could totally be wrong since I haven’t read the book but the impression I got was that the Bene Gesserit have their own prophecy too about a messianic figure that goes beyond the fake one that they create. So when Paul yells “silence” at the reverend mother, she says something along those lines?

Harkonnen's home world name is Geide Prime

Speaking of Dune 2 possibly winning a Best Picture Oscar...does it hurt its chances of winning by coming out so early in the year?

57:05 yes lasguns Vs shields lead to subatomic fusion. Basically a nuke. Also, the centre of the explosion can be anywhere between the (inside the) shield and (inside the) gun

Yes, Laser onto a shield equal atomic boom because both manipulate atomic frequencies. Think crossing the streams in ghost busters. That's the premise in the books for why "Laze Weapons" are sparing used and they fight a lot with knives and projectiles even though they have the lasers. Frank Herbert has Denis covered on that one.

Regarding getting on and off the sandworm: I think Paul's process was so dramatic because of how massive his worm was, but the regular worms are what the guys with tents ride. I imagine they drag the resources and less mobile people on sled like trailers, cabled across the worm, then reel them in.

Just started reading your comments on youtube. I know this was about Paul's transition, but for me, it was about Jessica. After she drank the water of life, she was oh my God. The conversation she had with Paul and Aliyah when Jessica's was heading south and she told Paul we'll be waiting all of us, all the reverend mothers.

Agree with pretty much word-for-word everything you said here. Friggin loved this movie. So many memorable moments, Paul's ascension to Kwisatz Haderach is scary and badass at the same time, lots of levity without it feeling like Marvel "quippiness". Denis just fires on all cylinders for me in every movie. He literally has not made one movie that isn't good.

Even the book had a short action focus for that end fight it happened just as fast and almost felt like an oh by the way there’s people fighting out there.

Was it just me or did Butler's Fayd remind anyone of Rosenbaum's Luthor?

I thought Zendaya was amazing.

When it comes to adaptions, I think what makes good ones stand the test of time is correctly identifying who is the heart and soul of the book. Peter Jackson and his team clearly, and correctly, identified that Frodo is the anchor. For Dune, and Dune Pt. 2, Villeneuve is taking us through Paul's journey as a character and he never sacrifices that for anything else. EVERYTHING is in service to telling Paul's story well.

Just saw the movie today (finally). I watched Part 1 right before to have a better understanding of the story. At the end when Paul says “Show them paradise.” I thought he was telling his army to launch the warheads and destroy the spice on the planet? He mentions it earlier in the movie: “He who can destroy a thing has the true power over it” and it’s his initial threat when the great houses first show up. Also, in the first film the Freman mention that the planet does have a spring water source under the surface and it could have been a “Paradise” world but once people discovered how valuable spice was, no one wanted to destroy it. So my understanding is that they would destroy the spice by the start of the next movie (Part 3). Am I interpreting this incorrectly?