♞ Go Fuck Yourself ♞ they really aren't good detectives

try to watch the Adachi Ending, it's more darker!

You are not supposed to end like this. It is your fault because you are doing the wrong thing. People only see what they want to see and if they make decisions based on that it would be the end of us.

@@SoilderKrizer well, they solved the case in the end, canonically

@@SoilderKrizer at least they do more than the cops lol

Venomous Vince Yeah it is, though considering what happened to her in the past and the heat of the situation I can understand it. I had my moments of rage/vengeance like this before when I almost lost my father from a doctor who almost killed him from malpractice in a botched biopsy and is only half the man he is because of that doctor.

Yes, really... man I shouldn’t put my full trust on detectives...

You may or may not know this, but this is exactly what a 'Reverse Fortune' would actually do; decide for the worst to happen onto others and yourself to 'solve' a problem. Which is actually scary bcuz this really does happen to a lot of ppl.

Rule 1: Don't piss off Naoto

*_it's kinda hot_*

Don't forget, it was his daughter that ended up dead. And in his eyes, Namatame was to blame for it. Sad thing is, it's not just him: It's also the players for shoving him into the TV, earning them the bad ending.

'....' : Yu Narukami - Persona 4 Golden

The Goddess of Death has cursed us...

A murder is dark, but compare it to: 1. The apocalypse 2. Demon invasion 3. Planetary destruction 4. The rebirth of the world 5. Multiversal destruction It loses by far when you compare it. And when people complain that it's too Happy, you know they mean the other 80% of the game (still a good game).

@@Noahs_Chair We get it, you like SMT. But seriously, did you need to bring up SMT

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 The comparison is made with SMT, of course I bring up SMT.

@@Noahs_Chair He never mentioned SMT

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 "People who say P4 isn't Dark" are the SMT veterans. Is it a stupid criticism? Yes Is it grounded? Yes

All endings make me feel emty 😂

Especially the part where Dojima says he's gonna be alone now

Losing a wife is bad enough...but NO parent should EVER have to outlive their children... I don't know if I would be able to take it if it ever happened to me...

@@authorbat5562 especially when it's directly because of someone else

@@authorbat5562 Especially the way he loses Nanako too.. the fact she's just a 8 year old child who probably experienced awful pain... It's very very terrifying, I always almost bawl my eyes out whenever I replay the game and I get to the part where Nanako legally dies.

Same dude...

Ikr

Aaron you could have opened an old save , you know the one they asked you to save because of dramatic changes in the story

the game play with our emotions very well..it's really hard to not kill Namatame without a guide...but I think thats actually a good thing...showing how expert the game is...

Same, I just looked up the dialogue options to get the seekers of truth but nothing else

compared to 3 and 5? it ain't even close kid

compared to 3? Yeah to 5? ehh not so much.

@@trinity_frost do you mean 3 and 5 are happier or darker than 4? Because although 3 is certainly darker, I would argue 5 has heavier topics than 4, but doesn't really handle them with enough gravity or maturity to make it seem truly dark. The entirety of 4 has this slightly unsettling atmosphere to it that really becomes clear in the final third.

@@vinegar4556 it was a joke

@@trinity_frost it wasn't dumbass there was a whole ass conversation

I see kids as little demons, I saw some kids punch each other for candy in my time. But Nanako is just so pure. Almost unrealistically pure, like I never saw a kid like her. I actually felt like I got shot when I heard the long beep of her heart stopping.

@@masterblaster2678 hell yeah! Nanako's being such a good kid despite her circumstances is a bit unrealistic but it's at least still plausible. Her ability to be so self reliant to the point she takes care of Dojima more than he takes care of is sadly just what she has to do in order to survive. At the same time, she doesn't accept Dojima's negligence completely as seen when she acts out and runs away, and effectively calling him out on his shit. She's still naive about some things and underestimated about others just like any other kid. She's extremely loving and grateful because she's so lonely. Her relationship with Dojima and the mc are so well thought out it brings a tear to my eye. ;u;

I laughed when she flat lined

I felt rage

Truly

oh

yeah, I got this ending by my first try, and I was like, whaaaat? there must be some other ending for sure, but I thought I missed something for real (like, I've had to max out S-Link with Nanako for her to survive or something), but luckily, it was still not too late to save the day :)

@Yoda Goiw There's a sad ending for every palace, there's also one where you snitch on everyone helping you out throughout the game, there's also one where joker basically Becomes evil, there's also multiple in royal.

@@shrekonion8307 the evil joker is pretty dark. You leave all your friends to sit in prison for eternity while you walk free.

@@hersh1138 The kaneshiro bad ending is also dark as hell too altho it isnt really what happens

Not only that, but throwing Namatame into the TV for killing Nanako consequently kills Nanako as I believe this is the only ending where she dies.

@@ryanvillena7807 Wich doesn't make sence. I like this inclusion of this ending but at the same time, I found unfair that Nanako only dies here without explanation.

@@alexismercado3944 things don't have to be literal all the time, they can be symbolic or have a greater meaning behind it. Killing Namatame turns them into murderers, what they sought to bring to justice, and as such, what they did was nothing short of killing nanako herself.

@@alexismercado3944 To be fair with the logic of the game, fog does have a negative impact on people's health, and in the words of many characters, the fog gets weaker every time you get closer to the truth. By killing Namatame you seal the truth permanently, so the fog gets stronger instead of receding

also the fact that namatame never killed at all

johnny sins gf that’s just the vanilla version! P4G has I think 7 endings, three of which are similar but have different criteria.

The irony from ur username makes it more funny

Empathy can be a double-edged sword. It's extremely useful when applied appropriately and necessary for the existence of a functional civilization, but it's also an inherently self-centered thing because you're using your own experiences to extrapolate how other people feel. It's a form of projection in a sense, asking "This thing the person I'm talking to is going through... how would I feel if it happened to me?"

thats the point and what makes P4 so well written.

Shawnlings jokes on you she isn't really dead

Ignister Prominence, The Blasting Dracoslayer until you realize p4 dancing all night is cannon and nanako isn't dead

Of course,even when i knew there was something fishy here,but i just don't give a crap and kill him anyway

Naw not me I didn't throw him in when I first played because that would be murder and I ain't no murderer

I swear im not a psychopath

oh

​@@Ultimate214 I'll do you one better. It's framed as if you were watching it all on the Midnight Channel. It's not totally visible, but you can see from the silhouette that it's obviously Namatame. You hear the audio clear as day. You hear him panic, cry and whimper as he pleads for his life as his Shadow and other Shadows in his dungeon get closer and closer to him. The Midnight Channel's signal starts to get fuzzy as the Shadows start to attack his body. The screams cut in and out. And as the signal loses power... just about to meet his demise... he screams one last time--and the Midnight Channel's signal goes completely dead, cutting off his scream at the perfect moment. And Persona 4's logo shows up one last time before fading to darkness. Could happen with or without the logo, but I feel like it'd be a nice little bow at the end of it all. I could add on the idea of Adachi watching it all from his couch, maniacly laughing, as his eyes become the yellow we see when he is consumed by the Shadows and darkness, making one last little "fuck you"-type speech to really make it sink in that you absolutely fucked up, but I dunno. Just seeing Namatame's death and the TV cutting off would be enough to put chills down my spine.

And the errie faint laughs of adachi

@@TheOneGuitarGuy I agree with most expect for the addition of adachi I mean imagine being a newcomer to the game and series as a whole and you decided to play the game blind ,you just acted on impulse resulting In this ending you're feeling like shit for what you did only to be interrupted with the additional scene of adachi watching it all while his eyes glow ....like that right there just ruins it cause then the newcomer now knows who the real killer is instead of coming to that conclusion on their own the second time around

Even if you do defeat adachi, the same thing will happen if you don't defeat izanami ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Now that I think about it, if there was a aftermath where we can actually play when everyone turns into shadows I wonder if they would look like themselves, have a different design, or if we can catch them and get them as personas

@@savien6401 >stealing everyone's souls to make them your personas

Marie disappearing should be included in the true ending.

wait why would they turn to shadows tho?

Ikr.

Well that’s basically murder in persona in a nutshell

same here, and it was the first persona game I played so I assumed it was the only ending, then I read online it wasn't and tried to get the true ending, it isn't as easy as one would thought (like p3 or p5)

I got the second bad ending on my first play. (Which Namatame and Nanako doesn't die but you couldn't able to catch culprit either.) But the thing is I really underestimated Persona series. I didn't even bother to look how complicated this game or how much I need to be careful while doing my choices. I didn't even know that game has multiple endings. I go total blind gameplay and it ended up screwing myself over lol.

@@emreustun2988 We're on the same boat. I just completed the game and got the same ending. Now I don't know why, I feel a bit guilty.

Somewhere, a gas station attendant is chuckling...

me too

same ahah

I still got the bad end though because I messed up one of the dialogue choices

yeah..probably me too....

Yeah

Aaron Butts As far as I’m aware in every other ending she lives, but only in the true ending she is able to leave the hospital in time to see Yu go

It doesn't necessarily have to be the "true" ending because that one is triggered by what you do after she already gets out. You can just get the "good" ending where you fight Adachi and Ameno Saigiri.

@@chum724 Adachi says thay he is going to be alone on the house tomorrow, so that impllies that indeed, in this ending, Nanako is dead

Cero The only way nanako outright dies is if you put namatame into the tv

Well, for the neutral ending you don't need to protect Adachi, you can also just convince the others to not kill Namatame during this scene, but everyone still thinks he did it. I got this from saying that revenge is wrong.

Right in the kokoro

Does she know then don’t feel bad it’s best that some things are best kept under the rug to keep the situation peaceful

Plus, this'll make them appear as bad as the culprit is

He was a accomplice at best as he lacked a backbone to really be the killer

IKR

Valkneer you most not play the rest of the smt games lol

Aaaah me too

There's no happy ending... Probably.

And no one ate dinner that night.

why would they all die?

matthew funakoshi Ameno Sagiri said that the fog would cover the human world and both worlds will merge, making everyone a Shadow. So probably they all died.

Just like how Andres0082 said, Everyone would turn into Shadows and die. This is true due to the fact that there is particularly one scene where Naoto would literally scream and die because the world was fused with shadows.

The Accomplice Ending is worse for me

Here's a tip. If you beat a JRPG boss normally and the game tells you that everything might end, that is not the final boss. JRPG Final Bosses NEVER let you beat them without a scripted end. I am pretty sure before you made that choice, you fought and killed Kuni-no-Sagiri normally by brute force and he just dies like any other boss. And then he doesn't even transform. No final boss in JRPGs will do anything like that.

The worst ending by far is the Accomplice Ending. Sends shivers down my spine every time...

I bet you absolutely loved the true ending

Well, I was blinded by anger, so I pushed him in the first time, already knowing the ending.

The Chef Boo but... he didn’t do it? The whole point of the game is explaining why nametame was throwing people into TVs he was doing it because he thought it was saving people. He didn’t act twice and those two ended up dead. The times he did act, they survived. Yeah he’s crazy, but he actually had no murderous intent.

Hope Bagel he said he knew the ending, so he knew he was wrong anyway. Besides, anyone who has been paying attention would know Nametame wasn’t trying to kill people. It just doesn’t add up

Yeah and he was also acting so nervous and freaking out you could tell something was up

Except when you find Adachi and you think him being dead so he doesn't abuse his powers would also save everyone. But if you want to push this morality bullshit down their throats, I am sure everyone except your own view of the world is wrong.

@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead He wouldn't hurt anyone in jail, and how can you be sure that YOU are not the only one to think your way and that he hasn't most people on his side

@@shaymin1372 He wouldn't hurt anyone in jail UNDER WHAT CONTEXT? DO you not know the concept of REPEAT OFFENDERS? If Yu or the plot didn't demand for Adachi to have a form of retribution by adhering to the laws of society and he himself DECIDING (as in people ALWAYS have a choice, and people die in jail too, you fucking ivory tower looking ass) to follow suit the police investigation, Adachi might as well WOULD have scaped through ANY form of reflection in aparatuses under the premises he recides after the true end of the game to KEEP killing people, so no, your logic is NOT henceforth, therefore it is irrelevant, and you are a plebian.

@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead Wtf ?

You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head Lmao

The flags are all over the place, it's not even subtile

So you chose each line of dialogue perfectly when they were about to throw Namatame in the tv??? Yeah right

@@Wxtsername “wow having a moral compass? You liar”

Also the game literally asks you a second time to change your opinion while the girls have doubt about the righteousness of this situation (Except for Naoto wich is funny as she literally represents justice as a detective but i guess she had to be either fully for or against it)

Nah this is some idealistic bullshit. Morality isn't that black and white

@@PancakemonsterFO4 the justice tarot card can mean personal justice(vengeance) or well, true justice.

@@legendarytat8278 still makes her a shitty detective if she solves the case by murdering people. Not even L wanted Kira dead, he wanted him to be judged by the judiciary system as he is not the executioner

@@PancakemonsterFO4 Yes, I was explaining why the people who made the plot made that decision. I don't know and don't care who L and Kira are, but I get your point. Still, because the investigation team are teenagers, who think using the amygdala instead of the frontal lobe, so it's somewhat explainable that Naoto went for the impulsive option instead of thinking it through calmly. Obviously, it still isn't a right thing to do, as evidenced by this being a “bad ending”.

I got spoiled too. But after I finished the game with this ending. I'm pretty furious, I was hoping to replay the game in the future to get a different ending. I guess I have to gaslight myself into thinking the spoiler wasn't real.

​@@themanthemyththelegend9498You know that you could've just reloaded a save and continued toward the true ending right? Your save file wasn't locked into the bad ending until you *chose* to overwrite it after the credits.

you can tell from how they tell him to stop stalling, when he's the CLOSEST to her and would be the one who wants justice done for the death of Nanako. For him to tell them to stop means that he suspects there's more to it than they're seeing (If you choose that path)

Doesn't take an analyst to know that, just good intuition

This was the first ending I got on my first playthrough and it amde me angry and sad.

It's a little more complex. The dialogue options you have to choose are very specific, and one wrong choice and you've got the band end. I did end up saving namatame, but wasn't able to convice everyone someone else was the killer.

That's different despite the end result being a Bad End. I meant the Worst Ending which the video shows.

@@sophilia8565 very specific? It's either YES let me kill him, YES but i cannot watch so i leave it to you or NO we may have missed something. If you ever played a visual novel and tried to get the true ending without looking up a guide, THAT'S where things become hard as fuck to make out (oh, you missed the third event flag, too bad the next events won't trigger for you and you need all of them)

@@PancakemonsterFO4 The third answer you gotta give to get the good ending is kinda weird tbh, I failed the first time

@@nullasenzanome9553 it's not really weird, more like “this could be staged to get rid of the only source of information we have right now“. The original version also hinted on Adachi being in this mess as he was the only character without a social link despite Doshima inviting him home from time to time so he was a important character

The end.

Actually, I think they don't but they are eventually brutally murdered by some portion of the shadows that are the human race.

P5 has like 3 endings only. Excluding missing the deadlines of course. Most of your choices would basically revolve around whether or not you choose to be a sell-out, or you become greedy and accept the proposal given by Yaldabaoth.

@@xylemicgaming2858 not anymore lol

It's pretty much impossible to get 5's bad ending unless you're trying, the game gives you three or four chances to walk back on your choice.

@@vinegar4556 I thought I was gonna get it by mistake.

*dinner

izanami*

+Pinguim Demente ® yes that's what I meant

nah thats a video fix I think lol

then where was the super boss fight?

Collage Pff, i have a better speedrun strategy, let Yukiko die xD

Well later on they use the Shadow’s phrasing (“I couldn’t save her” when everyone thought Nanako was dead) as evidence that he did literally mean to save people. It’s not clear if it’s the same kind of Shadow that would have turned into a Persona but it was expressing thoughts he reasonably could have been thinking

wow great job. you must be a genius or something