Are u broke?

@@jipangoo retrieving archive from old tapes/drives costs money. I could set up a patreon account but that would exclude non-payers. This way , nobody here is paying for this stuff unless they choose to.

@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES I'm curious and maybe you could help me out. Do interviews cost money? Does the interviewer have to pay people like Roger Waters for his time?

@@jipangoo I personally never expect to pay star musicians. And I never have. I know some production companies do pay if it’s the only way they can get access

@lukaf2393 Very well said. I'd pay to see the trio version in concert, as they were a solid pop group until the end. I'd pay and buy a T-shirt for the quartet, because they were a VERY good prog band. I'd give a kidney (preferably someone else's) to watch the Classic 5. 4 years together. 4 incredible records. The Genesis quintet belongs with the greatest groups in the history of music. Nice video. Cheers.

I just had the strange impression that Peter Gabriel was somehow ignored and left out by everyone... 🤔

​@maval4537 I can see where you're coming from. I believe Gabriel & Hackett have always remained friendly, but it looks significant that those 2 appear to sit a little isolated. And I bet Banks is a bit irked that the Genesis threesome era is NOT revered in the same way as the fivesome or even foursome eras

@@keithf_ Yes, you're right!

Rush begs to differ. But second.

@@mikearchibald744 Lee's catty disposition defeats your argument. You had me at Peart and lifeson though. So Genesis remains dominant

@@WintersWar Catty? I think you are confusing him with somebody else.

@@mikearchibald744 I've seen his interviews.

@@WintersWar I've seen tons of his interviews, still don't know what you are talking about. Tony had a little bit of snark in his interview by his OWN record label. Doesn't make them 'not nice'. But since we've never met ANY of these people I dont' think we can take this line too seriously.

There's tons of prog interviews out there now. Tony does a long one with his cherry red record label. Steve is ALWAYS doing interviews and about this time. Peter has done some long form ones for various organizations. Ironically Mike does the least, mostly beause he at least was still performing so is just doing the really crappy mainstream media interviews where they ask the same idiotic questions, but he did one with that podcast that that guy from status quo did during the lockdown.

I think there was some justification he left at the time when they were rising and to lose an integral part of the band was cruel of Steve I think.

I think Tony was just being cynical. They all know that he was the cynic in the band. Besides, Tony's a fan of Steve's work. He loves Blood On The Rooftops and he complimented him on Ace Of Wands.

@@aleclewis9123 Interesting . I`ve always been annoyed at Tony`s attitude towards Steve, even if I think the world of him as a keyboardist and a song writer, but to see them both hug at the beginning of this video was a very pleasant surprise. It`s nice to see that they`re not cold to each other.

@@paulcarfantan6688 Despite the disagreements within the band, they really do get along, e.g. Tony went to Steve's 53rd birthday party in 2003. Both of them were even close to re-recording the song The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway for Steve's first Genesis Revisited album. Phil says about Tony and Mike in his autobiography, "Tony and Mike have become more lovable as time goes on, which is the reverse of the traditional rock-band narrative. Tony, formerly rather diffident and difficult to talk to, has become a great friend, funny and witty. He’s a different person, especially with a glass of wine in him. Mike, too, has loosened up." You must remember, Mike, Peter and Tony had stern educational upbringings and Phil came from a drama school, where education was minimal. Steve was also close to leaving the band during the Foxtrot sessions, but Tony and Mike gently sat him down and encouragingly said "we don't want you to leave".

@@aleclewis9123 Very interesting. Re-recording The Lamb would have been something curious to listen to, a bit like their 1999 re-recording of the The Carpet Crawlers. Indeed Tony has mellowed with age which is a good thing and yes that Charterhouse schooling instilled in them a "stiff upper lip" attitude. I remember the three of them saying they were envious of ho Phil could easily joke around and hug someone, since that`s not how you would behave at their school. The last part about Steve is intriguing since I`ve read about eight books in the last 43 years and never heard about him wanting to leave at that time. Good thing they convinced him otherwise, I mean what a guitarist that guy is, such an innovator in multiple guitar sounds. He`s one third of my "Steve trio" of guitarists, along with Howe and Rothery. Cheers.

Thanks ! It took quite a bit of revising .. hopefully it’s now ok. 🤞

What’s the excitement about, it’s a group of old band mates together, can you tell me what I’m missing pl?

Wow! Thank you so much for your support !

Thanks. I love your take on this

There's no issue between Phil and Pete .

@@halcyon289 they're actually the closest friends, as far as I know! the last picture after the last Genesis show backstage, is Peter, Phil and Richard McPhail.

It's possible that Pete and Phil had already done their initial "hug" greeting, off camera and just prior to this bit of filming and were both reluctant to replicate it "just for show".....I mean....I wouldn't do that either if that was the case. So their look of "awkwardness" may just be a mutual "we've already hugged".....and "so long as WE know this, sod what it might look like on the edit"......type thing.

Maybe they came in together and didn't need to greet again. Who knows.

Absolutely, Cuckoo Cocoon wouldn`t be the same without it nor the Musical Box or Get em out by Friday or Supper`s Ready. Even the end of The Lamia has a bit of flute. It was a beautiful added element to their songs.

that's definitely what they were up until Gabriel left

Think your way through Nursery Cryme or Selling England by the Pound and give me a quick summary please, it up there with ELP and Wakeman futility for me !?

@@DaveSCameron Futile.....100% not, complex songs that take you on a journey, unusual lyrics, constantly evolving music, brilliant / different styles of composition, totally unique sound..... Genesis is definitely not futile.

🙄 They're humans, just like you and me.

I agree. I wince every time I see those chairs ! I like to think it was the producer who chose them out of cheapness (: .. why didn’t I say something? God knows! Bad decision on a stressful day. 😩

Does anyone close to Phil know the answer ? My google translate of this - Hello everyone...does anyone know how Phil's health is??? I hope he is well 🙏 greetings from Buenos Aires GENESIS FOR EVER !!

I think there was an idea based on the original three who kicked off this filmed conversation first. They sat together and then were joined by Phil and Steve

@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Makes sense. It worked so well. I love Peter and Tony together, there is a certain friction even now!

@@CommuneRecords I agree with another comment, it looks like most of the friction is Peter and Phil. They look at each other to hug like everybody else, then look away, then Peter looks at Phil again to see what he's going to do, and they are the only ones that dont hug. I'm not exactly sure though what people think needs to be 'resolved'. One thing about getting old is you realize for the most part just how dumb you were when young and most of the things you did you likely can't really explain. Tony pretty much admits here he was an asshat, he's said that before, and from all accounts from people aroudn the group he's mellowed more than most. Its got to be a little bit of a hit to pride that his solo career wasn't as successful, he and the others keep talking about it, which is odd because popularity has never equalled quality. Peters most successful albums are most certainly his least interesting ones. Phil did far better work with Brand X than his solo albums. All over youtube you see fans and critics and other members of Genesis saying how brilliant an album Smallcreeps day is, yet Mike hardly even acknowledges it. But on rewatching this they do all seem very nervous before starting, and of course we still notice there is SOME editing done here. Granted, I critique it like a performance because I don't know any other way. I'm not about to do as somebody else did and base criticisms on their posture.

@@mikearchibald744 Odd because Phil and Peter have (seemingly) real respect for one another not just based on old times. It looks like Steve has come out as the hug-gy one and is hugging everybody. Phil is pretty hug-gy too and gets through to his old bandmates. But somehow the Peter-Phil thing is awkward for a moment, and then it's too late. I didn't notice any actual friction between Peter and Phil, just maybe an awkwardness. Interesting to dissect a few seconds! Totally agree with the rest of your comment (though I don't like Smallcreep's Day myself).

@@CommuneRecords To be honest I haven't listened to Small creeps day, but hear ALL the guys related to Genesis raving about it. But yeah, and stuff like that is hard to figure because its spur of the moment, you never know, they may have just had a conversation before and this meant nothing. As i've said before they dont have a LOT of drama, but even pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin have REUNITED. After 1983 thats never happened, and it looks like Pete has always been the holdout. I would think the main grief would be with Tony, but these british guys are pretty good with the stiff upper lip. The only other thing that gives me pause is the other Phil solo interview where Phil is talking about how he didn't waht Petes job and Phil says "Pete might say 'for fucks sake leave it alone' ". Pete is the guy who I really can't imagie getting angry, but he out and out admits how stubborn and cantakerous he can be, so we should believe him. But all those hugs seemed a little showy. I'm not a huggy person,but when I hug, people feel it:) Steve and Tony barely hug, but I think MOST of these realize just how long ago the past is. But on rewatching the beginning I'm struck with how nervous they all seem to be at the FIVE of them being there, when they don't when there is three. And I think thats all rehashing the Pete and Steve stories which likely like Pink Floyd says "we dealt with it by ignoring it..the british way". In hindsight what would be ideal is to see PAIRS of them in interviews on the albums.

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@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Thank you very much!

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Wonderfully stated.

It looked like he was trying to muffle or hold back a beltch.

@@nickfabiano7795 and the cameraman realizes it and quickly moves to Phil.

True. I did interview him separately .. as you may know, it’s on this channel

Banks cannot be wrong ... Musical box was a track in their bag, conceived by anthony phillips. The same for several supper's ready parts... Just for example

True. There's something very wrong with Tony Banks. I imagine that there was a parent whacking his fingers with a stick when he got something wrong when he was a kid that never went away, I think the poor sod has had a tortured life as a result. Yes, it turned him into a genius, but a tortured one. I suspect we enjoyed him a lot more than he ever enjoyed himself. And Steve needs to sack up and speak up about his significant contribution. I guess his current tours are a result of his lack of confidence around the other members of the band, so we, as an audience, have that to thank that for, but maybe if he could be more comfortable with himself and the others, he might be able to match their complexions/tans rather than look like the kid to crawls up their chimneys.

Por culpa del desagradable de Tony Banks que no tomaba en cuenta sus composiciones. Hasta en este video le tira odio cuando Steve lo alaba como compositor y el muy arrogante le responde "son 30 años tarde tus palabras"

interesting expression: "senile experiments of VdGG": you mean the albums they did since their reunion in 2005?

@@MrTrollerboy Si, señor. Pienzo que la reunión de mi querido VDGG después de World Records-1976 no es mejor experimentación en la esfera de las obras musicales, a mi juicio

Peter and Phil are probably the best friends between all of them, thats why they did not hug eachother

why didn't they ?

We discussed that on another thread, hugs don't come easily to the british, thats the thing about upper and middle class brits, you can read almost anything into anything. Was there derision shown by somebody because of how they arched their eyebrow? When Peter gives his 'prog god' acceptance speech is there some truth behind the jokes because brits are always subtle? In short its kind of OUR problem that for some reason we want to think that everybody gets along, usually in ways WE never do. I wouldnt have lasted five minutes in that band, maybe in no band. The fact they are in the same room is an accomplishement. But for perspective, on Phils 'moodier' interview he talks about how he almost never sees steve, and is STILL coloured by how he left, probably in part because he never sees him. When Phil jokes that "Pete would probably say 'leave that the fuck alone' " thats a pretty glaring statement. As Peter gets older he plays Genesis songs LESS, if at all. Sting sang "Moonlit Knight" on their together tour. What do those things mean? Well, if you are really bored theres' enough psycho analogy in that room to last a lifetime. Human interpersonal relationships are complex for ONE meeting, let alone half a century of being in and around a band. What most dont like to think about is the fact that its fairly likely these guys think of one another as rarely as you or I do anybody from thrity years ago.Mike said it best about when somebody is out of hte band you lose that closeness, its like a divorce and everything is coloured by that. Ironically it was Phils leaving that ENDED the band, and yet Mike and Tony seem to still have the fewest problems with him, maybe just because of his personality. As they say, 'oh those sensitive artist types'. But who knows, he didnt seem frosty to him at all during the interview.

No, I didn't motice that at all. Good spot

Nice tretease.

Tony doesn't like Steve either.