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@bikeman7982Ай бұрын
Additional Tips: 1. Use the Flirc USB receiver to be able to control play/pause, next/prev track using an IR remote. This needs to be configured in the Ropiee configuration page. This is pretty awesome as you don't have to unlike your phone/tablet every time you just want pause the music or skip tracks. 2. Use right angled adapters for cleaner cable routing, I use two USB-C adapters for power, one USB-A adapter for the DAC connection, another for the Flirc remote receiver connection and finally a ethernet adapter. You might also be able to find cables with right angled adapters. 3. To solve the display angle problem, keep the unit upside down! You'll need to jerry rig some kind of support to keep it standing. I use an Audioquest binding post wrench and some blu-tack :-).
@gamecock24652 жыл бұрын
I built something similar and used a HiFiberry hat with this case. I did have to modify the case slightly to allow the coax out to fit the case. I’m also using a usb splitter with one power supply for the screen and the RPi. It’s a pretty cool setup.
@HelloHelloXD2 жыл бұрын
4:56 you can use usb drive for your OS so you can change it easily with usb ports on a side of the case
@IdeaBoxful2 жыл бұрын
To reduce the number of power cables, use the jumper cables with the display. Use a power supply that provides atleast 3amps 5v on the usb C and the power low message will go away.
@ryanmiles052 жыл бұрын
A big fan of the versatility of Raspberry Pi, I have one powering my home entertainment system using Plex and another one powering my smart home using Home Assistant. Thanks to you, I will now using one to compliment my audio streaming too!
@christophernoto2 жыл бұрын
You rock, John Darko! I love, love, love (🔥🔥🔥) the way you pingpong between the megabucks high end gear and the down and dirty low end DIY thing!
@HugAFreak2 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is currently finding Raspberry Pi's, they're currently as scarce as rocking horse ****
@clmcdonald12 жыл бұрын
Great video John, Smart pi touch pro case, allo Digi one hat, with a standard pi 4 power supply works great. The case comes with a splitter. I never get a low power and one cord. Dead silent with ropieee and controlled with roodial and a PC.
@jimfarrell46352 жыл бұрын
You just made me nostalgic for my modded Squeezebox Touch. Great little gadget and my first proper streamer. Gone up in the world now with an Aries G2 feeding a Terminator Plus but, as they say, you never forget your first, especially the excitement of having all the music all the time at the touch of a screen.
@JakeSDN2 жыл бұрын
Plexamp is currently in development for the Raspberry Pi. Plexamp also has Tidal integration.
@dutchkel2 жыл бұрын
is it?? That's what I need to hear bc all my music is on plex so I have held off making a pi streamer
@JakeSDN2 жыл бұрын
@@dutchkel They mention it in the recent change logs.
@my2cents1982 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to put this information together...it really is helpful to people who aren't that tech savvy.. much appreciated 🙏.
@unol2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a shout out for black country new road. A true "music first audiophile" record.
@wood6342 жыл бұрын
Sweet. I now have added this to my setup. Also added a Flirc receiver and now can control next/previous from the system remote. Awesome!
@Sampardhanani2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this set up . Love to see John work like a technician. Cheers . Let the screen be there John .
@arhnstaylor40612 жыл бұрын
You got a great attitude. Enjoying about life, what else could be more important?
@petehurd53012 жыл бұрын
Nice. I packaged up my Squeezebox Touch and put it back in the box after replacing it on my bedside table with a touchscreen & pi & dac hat, because they were more stable and capable than the squeezebox. I tried volumio, but switched to PiCore player after not being able to get volumio to access files on the LMS server in the basement. I always suspected that volumio could read an LMS server elsewhere on the network, but could never find out how to make it work (there's lots of info on making the volumio be an LMS server, I could not find any for volumio as an LMS client).
@carlosalvarez74452 жыл бұрын
I love my Pi 4 with the Allo DigiOne Signature HAT. I'm only disappointed that streaming Qobuz is almost impossible with Moode, have to pay extra with Volumio or other options are way too complicated.
@nimosx2 жыл бұрын
Nice ! Will there be an audio review of the Pi-Fi ? It will be interesting to learn about the sound quality, and how it compares with other streamers or HATs.
@vric2 жыл бұрын
I'm using this setup for a while now. I power the screen from the Pi with a IFI AUDIO IPOWER2 power supply. Work great. Dac as his own power supply tough
@angrytim2 жыл бұрын
Hey....what about PiCore player and Logitech Media Server.... They are Free and better. Also snakeoil server with Logitech Media sever is the best sounding server solution.
@Thoughtflux11 ай бұрын
Can i use my android phone as remote with your setup?
@josephlalock83782 жыл бұрын
i built something very similar about 5 years ago with a hifiberry dac+ lite (it had to be a lite because the non lite version uses i2c and clashes with the screen. i only used 1 power supply, a 5.5v 6a power brick w/leads soldered directly to the gpio. it powers all units flawlessly without the current limiting of the poly fuse. running osmc/kodi with a custom skin/build.i also had to flip the screen and touch interface 180 degrees but it had to be done in the boot config file. main use is for pandora and internet radio and streaming from my own media server while working in the shop. very reliable unit.
@muttech162 жыл бұрын
This is too complicated for me 😅 ill stick with my smartphone as streamer
@allanmoran2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for a project while I’m in two weeks of lockdown. Intend to update my own pi streamer. This one has the hifi berry dac2hd + DSP hats.
@stadiagaming77902 жыл бұрын
2 week loickdown were you from
@DalKangh2 жыл бұрын
One problem with volumio is if you play dsd files it has an issue switching from pcm to dsd. Other than that it’s a great solution not only for spotify but also your music library.
@markus711 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this upload. I'll dabble on Raspberry Pi. Currently I have an iPad. This iPad is connected to an HDMI Audio Extractor. Extractor is connected to Receiver via Optical. HDMI Audio Extractor's are plenty in Amazon. I bought one for $35 USD.
@craiggamble44312 жыл бұрын
Don’t know what it is about you doing the building and explanation of these things but they’re super relaxing. I’d be happy if you made a second channel just for building stuff ha
@rosswarren4362 жыл бұрын
Showing how to put together all the IKEA KALLAX units would be nice....LOL...
@RenePolster2 жыл бұрын
Ok as a Spotify user there is an easier way to have it on a Display. I Start Spotify on my Smartphone and Tablet. Than i connect my Smartphone over Spotify Connect with my Yamaha Receiver. I can now Play Spotify on my Receiver over my Phone and see the Interface on my Tablet. Works great!!!!!!!
@stro_photography5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video John! I will build a Streamer like this these days… and your jeans jacket is a awesome 80 look 😎👌
@VincentRol2 жыл бұрын
Love those Pi video, always amazed by all the things people have made for use on those small computers, very entertaining.
@Jim1701X2 жыл бұрын
If you have issues with Balena Etcher, Raspberry Pi main mage has a fantastic sd card formatter that puts whatever o/s you prefer and you can use a large sd card.
@leokuiper25932 жыл бұрын
All I need is Airplay 2 on my gear and Apple Music. My IPhone, IPad and Apple Watch all have touchscreen’s and can control my streaming.
@love2spinvinyl2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very well set out. Can see this being popular one for views for you and over a long period of time.
@JonPickles2 жыл бұрын
Nice but I think i will just continue to use my iPad as my touch screen as then i can control Roon etc from my sitting location.
@iepdeklein1701 Жыл бұрын
I like Johns approach to audio. Why not using an old iPad for now playing screen and get rid of all the wires?
@33spree2 жыл бұрын
I spy a Rega P8 in the background!
@billbones10002 жыл бұрын
It's all so convoluted. I stream tidal from my phone via a node 2i and that crashes/fails to connect/gets stuck regularly. I imagine this setup Darko is proposing will also fail/crash/freeze regularly........so much work and potential for frustration to simply listen to music!
@tietoliikenne2 жыл бұрын
Ya'll should try Moode Audio, to me it's the best sounding for Roon and local files.
@carlosalvarez74452 жыл бұрын
And works better than Volumio to play files from an external drive
@expert20valvehlx5 ай бұрын
Bravo Darko
@rosswarren4362 жыл бұрын
Love this idea. When the Raspberry Pi 4 4GB comes down to its normal $55 USD price instead of the current $200 I'll consider building one. Curious how the USB output of a Pi 4 compares to the Lightning port of a "decent" late model Apple iPAD as you used in a previous video? Great video by the way. Loved the presentation and clear instructions. Not getting bogged down installing all those additional jumper wires in order to power the assembly with one PSU would make it far easier and as you noted, allow it to power an external DAC.
@snip3d2 жыл бұрын
Same - Google Nest is the same price as the touchscreen by itself for me. Will do that with a cast tab on the device.
@Sadsoft2 жыл бұрын
Whoa someone else listens to a place to bury strangers! Nice
@JakeSDN2 жыл бұрын
There is a popular DAC that goes with the Raspberry Pi called the HifiBerry.
@sayhellotovin2 жыл бұрын
nice vid as always John, never really understood wanting a touchscreen streamer/digital playback device although plenty seem to like the idea like you said. We've had remote controls for decades now so having a fixed touch interface away from the seating seems a bit retrograde.
@NL0Gwenster2 жыл бұрын
I understand where your coming from. But please explain to me how with a traditional remote control (i.e a bar shaped device in x size) you will navigate an entire "modern library" of digital music with potentially hundreds if not thousands (connected to Tidal etc. service) albums and singles without any sort of visual feedback ? Cause if you can solve that for me, hell I will take your traditional remote control. Currently , the traditional RC only works best in more traditional applications where you have inserted a single piece of media, as in a CD.
@adamcox55282 жыл бұрын
The software (volumio, moode) is controlled via a web interface using any browser, so smartphones and tablets act as remote controls.
@dianamouton225 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, love it, great project for my son and I.
@harrym9152 жыл бұрын
Ants From Up There is such a brilliant album, happy to see you're enjoying it too
@gavinguy1482 жыл бұрын
Really cool video, thanks. One thing you may find interesting is you can now change the pi to boot from usb instead of sd card. You can then us either a usb stick or a microsd card with a USB adapter and it save you having to take it apart if you need to change the OS.
@dana_padrino9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you can use the raspberry pie config file to flip the screen so you don’t have to fix things in the streaming app set up.
@tonym83582 жыл бұрын
You can add a usb/ remote and will make it usefull since the remote works with Wi-Fi
@IrenESorius2 жыл бұрын
Cool little project,, 🥰. Cheers and thanks John,, 🍻😎👍.
@SmokeyMesa2 жыл бұрын
When Volumio incorporated Tidal Connect last year I got an Allo Usbridge. After some ups and downs the most recent versions of Volumio allow my phone Tidal app to control my streaming perfectly. I don't know if it would even be possible to add a screen to a Usbridge Signature, but my phone basically does the same in the palm of my hand.
@tchall81532 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed that. Fascinating.
@brianwalsh18442 жыл бұрын
You know you can add a Fire Tablet as a now playing display in Roon - great value when on sale.
@Wuppie622 жыл бұрын
What's the main advantage to build and use these Pi configurations, compared with using a standard tablet (iPadOS or Android) with a DAC?
@Wuppie622 жыл бұрын
...anyone?
@LKCHR2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was wondering too
@hezediel21662 жыл бұрын
this is to stream via the Wi Fi. So basically you don't need to plug in your ipad, you can just connect to your wi-fi, play a song then the streamer will convert the signal into your speakers wirelessly.
@tanakax252 жыл бұрын
There's not a price or function advantage to doing something like compared just buying a fire tablet. But you're doing it yourself, however you see fit for various design decisions. You're doing a lot of it yourself, learning a lot along the way, and probably (most definitely) making mistakes. But that's the point!
@oldgit4285 Жыл бұрын
If your dac is wired to other equipment e.g.stereo your ipad/tablet is limited to it's wired connection to dac? With RPI doing the streaming you're free to use the tablet in any room and still control the music via whatever app. you use.
@leo118772 жыл бұрын
Using my 65" Sony OLED TV + NVidia Shield ($200) + Schiit Modi Multibit DAC ($250) going to an AMP for Hi-Fi goodness. Android TV OS can do Plex / KODI / VLC / Amazon Music with USB out from the Shield TV Pro.
@StephenGarrett_NZ2 жыл бұрын
Volumio is a nice polished OS for the Pi, but I really don't like the subscription model for what is essentially a pretty UI. I have a pi which is running Spotify connect, MPD, Airplay 2, Tidal Connect (MQA) and a few other functions. It's headless (so no screen). It's not quite as plug and play as Volumio, but all of the features that Volumio lock behind a premium subscription fee are readily available for the pi to install for free.
@thecastiel698 ай бұрын
For 200 usd I can get a good tablet
@johnpudil10832 жыл бұрын
John this was a great video 👍 it’s interesting and something different than a standard equipment review more of a cool DIY the results are awesome 🔥💯thank you
@palmito222 жыл бұрын
Almost 300 bucks. Getting close to Bluesound Node
@iancognito80472 жыл бұрын
So tempted by this, but the annual subscription for either Volumio or Roon is the biggest impediment. The visual element is great and using the Tidal, Qobuz, or Spotify media *without* an annual fee would make this a killer option. The allure of Roon is lost on me, even after a recent trial. $120USD a year for the nice interface on top of subs for whichever streaming services one uses. I just don't get it.
@DalKangh2 жыл бұрын
There is a free version of volumio which doesn’t need a subscription
@WerHatDieKokosnuss2 жыл бұрын
@@DalKangh Yeah, but you don't get all the functionality. Tidal connect for example is only available with the premium version...
@justred23372 ай бұрын
Don't deny it, we're here from the Car Thing drama
@dainawilburn23902 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I had an original Squeezebox. It died. Miss it. I eventually, with the help of my geeky son in law, moved to Pi's, first with Volumio but eventually went to Diet Pi, using the Logitech Media Software. I added Qobuz. I've had an Allo USBridge for several years, running everything, but at my age of 66, I've been thinking of simplifying and throwing out my preamp, streamer, DAC etc for an NAD C658. I also really want to try Dirac, and this looks like an easy way. But, still, here's another great option, and I'm sure I could even throw Diet PI with LMS and Qobuz in it, and truck on down the road. I had been thinking of going back to a stock Pi. Gives me pause. It's a great time to be into audio. Except for the delays. 😉
@clemleg1232 жыл бұрын
@John Why not use an old LG phone with bit perfect USB out to your external DAC? Touch screen + any app you'd like for the same price or cheaper
@HaraldLabout Жыл бұрын
Just decided to remove the original pi 7 inch display from my pi volumio music streamer. The original pi display has such a bad resolution causing it to show the volumio gui in a really bad state. Will use the set, raspberry pi 3 + allo boss dac, using my phone or tablet only.
@andrewpowell12952 жыл бұрын
I also enjoyed this
@MarceloPaciorek2 жыл бұрын
nice video, I just remembered I'm not an electronic engineer 😁
@maurolimaok11 ай бұрын
Nice!
@giacomocesari38565 ай бұрын
I don't understand the reason to power separately the screen and the pi, it would not be better to have only one power cable?
@monsterlegend4464 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to build one but I'm from South East Asia and everything seems hard to get. Was wondering if there is anyone have a fully built up version that can let off to me. Thank you very much.
@ferencujvari107110 ай бұрын
I like your videos! But I think the system will work even with another cheap screens too. You just need to install the apropriet driver. Of yourse if you plug in the the OEM screen then it will work out of the box...but you get cheaper solutions too....and then it's a more better and cheaper solution :) The driver install is not for greenhorn but with a little readings everibody can do it...
@alexscarbro7962 жыл бұрын
Using an I2S to optical/SPDIF HAT with Volumio works really well. It allows very high bitrate files to be played without the processing overhead of a DAC plugged in via USB.
@Glaubwuerdigkeit2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a mounted Touchscreen I am using an old android Tablet. Type in the IP of your Volumio Device and you have a wireless Touchscreen with all the Features.
@HPHLE10 күн бұрын
Darko I see you use a Pi a lot, and pre-built streamers. What do you think about using custom built server PC’s? Lots of chat about ‘noise’ from more heavy PC builds. (Heavyweight CPU, PSU etc). I’m building a NAS and want to add a card such as JCAT to output to a DAC. Thoughts?
@strooooble2 жыл бұрын
Mh. Now I feel torn because I don't need it, but it looks good fun to build it... :D
@IAM_HC5 күн бұрын
Can you get the Spotify live backgrounds with this setup?
@JogieGlenMait162 жыл бұрын
this is really cool...
@markwilliamson48342 жыл бұрын
The The Giant is awesome!
@williampelham78932 жыл бұрын
Surprised but loved seeing the college dropout is getting played at the Darko house - always interested in your music tastes, any other hip hop albums in your rotation at the moment?
@koszyklbn2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do You plan to review Wiim Mini on video by any chance maybe? Super convenient device for the price, especially when raspberry is so hard to get now.
@rosswarren4362 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I needed a low-cost streamer for the den. Thought of a Pi but they are non-existent here in the U.S. (or going for 4X their usual price), so I bought the WIIM Mini. Works perfectly fine with Tidal Connect, especially since the firmware update to lossless via the Toslink optical output. I'm using it to feed the DAC inside an A/V Receiver and it is working well for that application.
@iruleirule1002 жыл бұрын
awesome video! i want to use spotify connect. i take it that the 2gb $129.00 will work or is bump up to 4gb $184.90?
@learntoswim5122 жыл бұрын
Any chance you can do a comparison video on all of the different DAC HATs? Many choices, but hard to find comparisons.
@milanmaksimovic48652 жыл бұрын
with a "nad wireless usb dac 1" it would be an extra portable solution.😊
@prob172 жыл бұрын
Moode plus Logitech Media Server on my desktop gives me the Tidal experience without any subscription.
@Miisile2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Love seeing the Pi variants you create. Do you happen to know if Apple Music is supported on volumio or something similar?
@Corndog6422 жыл бұрын
I use Volumio and it works well. At the time I did it I didn’t see the option to fix the upside down display.
@rosssmith84812 жыл бұрын
I'm eventually going to have to make the move. My quest is trying to have as few things plugged in as I can. I have a unit, that is very hard to replace, and maybe someone out knows a replacement. This unit can stream digitally, Spotify, Netflix and Amazon to a DAC. It can play CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray. It can take sources like an external hard drive, filled with CD quality. It can also take any CD you insert and burn it at full bit rate, to an internal 80gb hard drive. It's a playstation 3. Playstation 4,5 can't do all of these things. So I'm looking for an all in one that's able to do some of these things. P.S. another bonus with the PS3, is I can control Spotify and KZfaq with my phone as a remote.
@robinr57872 жыл бұрын
Have not seen such a device, PC perhaps? Sony ubp-x800m2 can do a lot of it. Or split the audio/video functions, Reavon player and Bluesound Vault?
@giulianof86879 ай бұрын
Hi Darko, i Need your help... I Need to know of Is It possibile tò cast Amazon Music by using DNLA (bubble upnp on the smartphone) versus a Raspberry with Ropieee XL installed in. Which Is the maximum resolution? Thank you very much
@Dankzzz2 жыл бұрын
Great review...
@tommi442 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice guide video 👍🏻 Is there eq/tone controls in either RoPieee or in Volumio?
@IoSonoAndreaZ5 ай бұрын
my PCIe port is used for nvme, is there a good usb-c touch screen with a nice stand for this?
@ricardocoloma-md2 жыл бұрын
thank you great vid awesome content :)
@dudewithamood4673 Жыл бұрын
i don't see the use for it , especially when Spotify launched a dedicated device called "Car thing" for around 30$ , but it can also use on your desktop
@luxpulvis Жыл бұрын
This would appeal more to those who want to be able to customize the hardware and software.
@alwAudio2 жыл бұрын
As you started this by mentioning the Squeezebox Touch, many may prefer to use piCorePlayer, a similar dedicated Pi image that can be used headless or with a touch screen and acts as a Squeezebox for use with Logitech Media Server. I've got a headless Pi model B with a Cirrus/Wolfson sound card attached, that feeds a topping DX3Pro+ on my desk (via coax) and a touch screen version in the lounge. The lounge unit uses a SmartiPi case, which has a Justboom Digi HAT inside, feeding a Chord Mojo via Optical as the DAC. The Digi HAT comes with an IR remote sensor that can be used with a standard Squeezebox remote, if you have one, and works out of the box with piCorePlayer.
@rivaultedouard5702 жыл бұрын
lol i did my version many years ago but.... with an integrated dac. now i've a better version based on a pi 4 with a audiophonics double dac and... a deported touchscreen to control my player qho's connected to my nas. i also made a touchscreen hifi player with an amplifier for my brother's wedding
@davidbock18012 жыл бұрын
The The!
@pierrejeanes10 ай бұрын
Using the phone allows you to use the phone mic for search , type?
@octothorpe122 жыл бұрын
Can this be used to select music, or do you still need another device for that? Personally, I'd vastly prefer a dedicated touch device to select and control Roon vs. my phone (or desktop, etc). They're cheap enough that I could attach them to most of my end points which would allow other folks in the house to select/play music.
@polarbear34272 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand why you can't put the screen in the right orientation
@Brown_Sound2 жыл бұрын
The simple answer is the cutouts would not be lined up. But I did think the same thing in the Fall, when I made my Roon endpoint with a screen. Couldn't they just design the screen cases 180 degrees rotated in the first place? Sure the cutouts would be on the other side, but so what, eh?
@miked.79722 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason to power the Pi and the screen independently rather than using the internal connection to feed the Pi power from the display board?
@daellis130 Жыл бұрын
Is there a "power off" built into the case? Or do you have to connect the cables?
@JordanVic872 жыл бұрын
why not just an android tablet? i use mine connected with a usbc passthrough dac.