Don't mind me, just rewatching the entire johnny vs series!

Agreed.

7 years? Hmmmm

My first time here

@@Jetanium Make sure to check out the rest! These are some of the best reviews on KZfaq and hold up excellently years later

Amen Ninja

Virgil O'Reily Looking back, though I still enjoy this review because of Johnny's honesty and how he still respects everyone else's opinions of the game, there are a few things I don't agree with. One is Link himself. He mentions that he couldn't relate to him at all, but I don't think that was the purpose in the first place, but rather that we can place ourselves as Link because he's the silent protagonist. Isn't that the purpose of a silent protagonist? The second is the music. While most of the dungeons themes are atmospheric, the rest of the music is pretty enjoyable, like Kokiri Forest and Saria's Song. Finally, his critique on the item's supposed limited use come off as more nitpicky. Eh, but still, I enjoy this review overall.

***** actually just because you a silent protagonist doesn't mean you can't relate to them. Just look at the wind waker that Link doesn't talk, but through his reactions and facial expressions you can tell what he is feeling and easily relate.

KidSnivy69 what I meant to say was that Miyamoto intended that we place ourselves over Link so we can experience the adventure. But I do get what you're saying so it's fine

***** I get that and I understand what Miyamoto want to do, but it led to characters being kind of bland

what’s numbers 8-1

ThompsonOTF 4 years later lmao

-cough arin hanson cough-

If you think his only points were that the game looked bad and is overrated, youve never listened to him talk about this game. Think you're just a bit blinded by nostalgia. He brought up half an hour worth of legitimate points.

@@YTWgamer I agree, complaining about the dungeon, story, and combat structure is not complaining about looks or its overall reputation. He mentioned looks once at the beginning in a jokey comment.

Glaceon Ten well said lol

Who doesn’t want a shirt that says that

+Fucking Cthulhu No, my friend, it be Chuck Norris

L

If it were chuck norris... They'd be dead. 😮

DiddyKongVsLuigi True... Segata Sanshiro?

+Thomas Ink how can it be chuck norris, bruce lee killed him

Zelda's plan actually works and the game is finished by the third dungeon

Toa Matoro I think 10 hours would be a more appropriate answer.

***** If you have a good amount of experience with the game and have beaten it a few times, then yes, 10 sounds about right. But if it's your first playthrough and you only use walkthroughs as a last resort, I could see it going up to 20.

I can finish the game in a 3 heart minimal item run in under 6 hours. not that hard.

Antonio Briceño Good for you then.....?

Fuck egoraptor

+Steve Spud lol

That's a terrible "review" and even Arin himself said it was.

Why fuck egoraptor? Someone's a little butthurt.

+Supah Man fuck Egoraptor

+Nidorino Alliance stfu

GTA 3 will like to have a word with you.

Diego Aguas if you're referencing open world they did that with the first zelda almost 30 years ago lol

I can always respect this game's impact not just for Zelda; but any video games in general. Same with Final Fantasy 7. While they're not my favorite, I can always respect these games and had an good time.

@@hylianfelldragon1308 ?? The graphics hold up how

I think Bubsy bit the dust when they first thought of it

Virgil O'Reily "It's a cat.. and ya put him in a shirt... and BAM! it's bubzy! I QUIT!!"

I would quit right after cat was mentioned.

Bubsy never had any quality in the first place.

Sadly, Earthworm Jim also bit the dust in 3D.

Don't remind me. I respect his opinion, but god was it nitpick central.

Not only that, but he failed to justify a lot of bullshit LTTP did, things that you would assume Egoraptor would hate (due to his Castlevania 2/Metroidvania opinions). Needing an item, which I have no idea that I need and no idea how to get, to beat a boss is bollocks.

MaddBadgerr What really blew me off was his Z-targeting rant. It was needed to adjust to the 3D environment and then he goes on saying it needed to be a top-down view like LTTP and I was thinking, "You mean like 2D?" The Z-targeting was masterful for the 3D environment so you can move the camera directly onto the enemy and you couldn't ask for anything more than that when adjusting for 3D. If it went like LTTP, you couldn't move Link side to side in facing the enemy and it wouldn't have worked well with the added dimension.

'There's normal view, then there's ATTACK MODE! and this alters how you view and interact with the game!' Well, yes Arin, and this is bad because...........? *silence for two years* Besides, just because you can see everything or almost everything at once in most rooms of LTTP, doesn't mean that you're able to focus on everything at once. Unless you're superhuman, and I know Arin's not because of his 06 playthrough (i know that game's shit and hard to predict/control, but it's nowhere near as hard as it seems looking at him and Jon play it), his Shadow TH playthrough (that game is EASY, he looked like he was playing with half his fingers missing), and I've heard he's a bit incompetent at Wind Waker too. He's entitled to like/prefer/hate whatever he wants, but if what we saw is his justification, its crap. It also contradicts his preference for knowing what to do and how all the time, because LTTP is terrible in that regard, where OOT isn't.

but he says almost all the things egoraptor says and yet ego gets cruciified(he even knew it would happen too)

***** compared to other dungeons in the series they're both lack difficulty

***** to be far people complain more about how long and boring the water temple is rather than it difficulty

Agreed, the Water Temple is more tedious than difficult.

The Water Temple is my all-time favorite Zelda dungeon, especially in the 3DS version. I love completing it every single time.

Majora's Mask used Ocarina of time's engine. So basically a copy of oot, so they could play around with the story a bit

wouldn't be as spectacular, but could be interesting.

yeah it's called 3ds. don't need any more.

Ocarina's world is really barren and open by design, unlike FFVII which was always supposed to be a very crowded urban game in Midgar, so it wouldn't be as interesting unless they made massive changes to the world. 3DS remake is perfect imo!

@@zachb4561 love the 3DS version. It’s perfect in every way.

Are you talking about a remake as in remake the gameplay and story or a HD remaster?

yeah I ish he would have. Wall masters and redeads too.

Rated E for everyone

***** While I do love Ocarina of Time, I would say that I love Majora's Mask more. That's just me though.

***** Yep. There is truth to that last sentence. :) I love all Zelda games (minus those dreadful CDi games) but 5 of my personal favorites are Link to the Past, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask in that order.

It's aged well... For an N64 game at least.

Even when games age terribly they're still great or lousy depending on your past experiences.

+Nathan Eskin It aged terribly. Even Bubsy is better than Zelda

Aye, WW Link had a lot of charm and you definitely felt his emotions at times. The "I'm sorry Grandma, but I have to do this" when he leaves Outset, or the "I can't fucking believe I'm doing this" when he's about to get launched into the prison for the first time.

Lithium Flower That's what i'm talking about! WW Link shows emotion, which makes him pretty relateable. But OoT Link does not, which makes him seem more like a puppet than an actual person. A good example of OoT Link not reacting like a normal person would is after Ganondorf runs off to catch Zelda, we see the camera zoom in towards his face, but all we see his his default expression.

For a heart piece or something (one quarter of heart). Gripping.

Baigandine L I don't understand what your trying to say here. Could you re-phrase this, please?

Keegan Cooldown He seems more like a robot because he's doing impersonal tasks just to collect trinkets, whereas in Twilight Princess he does things like save a child.

@ThatOneGuitarGuy 98 same here for my 3DS XL but I already beat the game like over a year ago. I fucking love that game enjoy it really fun.

I got it for n64 😀

It was good. But not all that great honestly. I'll take any Zelda games over OoT.

Harvey Gough your profile picture sums it up perfectly

Even though they're not technically the same Zelda.

same

Hell yeah.

same

Agreed.

sean z I agree with you! But my overall favorite Zelda game is Twilight Princess.

Oracle of Games I am actually the opposite. I feel sorry for Ocarina of Time. Many people accuse it of being overrated, primarily because many fans think of it as an upgraded version of A Link to the Past, it had an empty world, and basic combat. Now while I do agree that Hyrule Field was too big for its own good (with successors like Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess improving upon that foundation, in my opinion), I don't think the other criticisms are that fair. This is the first 3D Zelda game, and even for its time, the enemy designs were all really varied and some enemies like Dark Nuts, Iron Knuckles, and Stalfos really show how difficult the combat can get at times. And in terms of it being like A Link to the Past... I don't think that is a bad thing necessarily, but I do think it is different in several ways. The layout of the dungeons is much more varied than A Link to the Past as genius as those designs were (and still are). The Forest Temple had complex puzzles like the arrow puzzle, showing off how puzzles can really work in 3D. Link's journey as hero is explored a lot more in Ocarina of Time. And while you do get similar items, I think that the Megaton Hammer and elemental Arrows add a lot to that raster of already awesome items. Besides, I think that a lot of the items in A Link to the Past should remain staples like the Bow, Boomerang, and Hookshot. Apologies for the length of this message. I just thought I would explain why I feel more sorry for OoT over any other Zelda game (and I actually like TP and MM more than this game).

blowskiol I can understand that, criticizing it's flaws is a bit unfair to you, being as this is the first 3D Zelda game, but you have to understand that when replaying a very old game, there's always so much you can ignore, growing up, in terms of archaic designs. Age doesn't really matter, the flaws are still there. If more people like Egorapter and Johnny here acknowledged that and understood that this isn't the best Zelda game, then I think the other Zelda titles wouldn't have to be unfairly compared to Ocarina of Time. Minus Skyward Sword, each 3D Zelda from then on went and improved from the formula established in Ocarina of Time, and are thusly better Games

I have a feeling that Breath Of The Wild will change all that...

Brennan Martinez and it did

Fusion Victory And boy was I ever right! I think it is literally the best Zelda since Ocarina Of Time. The only downside I had with Breath Of The Wild is that (spoiler alert) the boss for the 4 main dungeons is basically recycled.

This is a game. This is a time when games gave 2 shits about stories and focused on GAMEplay.

Hi Sora

Twilight Princess improves on link's emotions, but not my much.That would be Skyward Sword actually got it right and actually went the distance.Then Hyrule Warriors came and how actually cared about the story?It was boring,lame, cliched, and straight out uninteresting.

The Gorons were being harvested and eaten by Volvagia, the Kokiri Forest was ravaged by monsters, Kakariko Village was haunted, the Marketplace looked like a nuke just hit it, and Ingo had taken over Lon Lon Ranch and abused Malon and the horses all because of Ganondorf. The Zoras were not the only ones hit by Ganondorf's rule. Also, Link has always been kind of character you have to imagine what he is all about. Its not like Link from ALTTP was so deep either-in fact he was probably even flatter.

***** Fair enough, but my point still stands that Link is an incredibly weak character.

+William Carrasco It was a good game for the time, but it hasn't aged well. People are just blinded by nostalgia.

+ThatOneShyGuy I recently got the game on the 3DS. No nostalgia towards it, and I consider it to be awesome. Go watch AVGN to actually learn about gamrs that haven't aged well.

+Crono isnt the 3ds version a remake? Im talking about the original.

ThatOneShyguy The 3ds version is the exact same game with better graphics and control. And I heard the water temple was nerfed for the best. Other than that, after comparing the old and the new one, it's exactly the same.

Crono Better graphics and control don't make it the same game. Those improvements make it a much better game xD

Butthurt bitch

@@timhook2086 Says the guy who replied *5 years later*

@@hyperx72 lol

Aren't all reviews for this balanced?

Darn right about that. Anyone who says OoT is perfect are either blinded by nostalgia or just hearing how perfect the game is that they agreed on. They just don't think straight enough as well as Johnny or ExoPander has.

Wind Waker is overrated.

Crono I wouldn't say so. It definitely doesn't get praised as much compared to Ocarina of Time. I haven't seen a single top ten list with Wind Waker at no 1 but I've seen many top ten lists with Ocarina at the top. And if its not number one, it probably isn't far behind. I can understand why you may think that though. Every single Zelda game has it's own mini fan base that claims their Zelda is the best.

When was the last time you looked at a best zelda game list ? wind waker has become incredibly overrated as of now.

Lord Raven I've checked a handful of sites, and KZfaq videos. On average it lands around the 4th-6th range. Some lower than that and some a bit higher. I won't doubt that the game has been getting more fans over the years but I'm not sure how that would be incredibly overrated as you put it. It's all opinions I guess. I mean I find Ocarina of Time overrated but many seem to agree on where it's placed on the list.

I Can't Think of a Good Name Strange...whenever I look through the comments, Wind waker pops up far more frequently than OoT.

VN Reader haha ikr

A lot of Arin's criticisms are actually legit and anyone giving him shit for his video are just butthurt nostalgia blinded fanboys. Could have he presented them better, meaning without the clear sense that he had a bone to pick with OoT because it's the most popular game in the series? Sure. But that doesn't stop him from having a point in a lot of his critcisms.

God, that video killed Egoraptor for me.

@@okagron Oh, is that how it is? So we're the butthurt fanboys for disagreeing with some of Egoraptor's points, and you're not a butthurt fanboy for going off on people for disagreeing with ya boy? Damn. Sure told us.

​@@okagronDid you ever watch him play the game? He couldnt z target basic enemies and had the hover boots on the whole game after he got them hes an idiot 🤣

Wind Waker is one of my all time favorites too. I think it's because it's one of the first Zelda games I ever played when I got it in 2002-3. Along with Oracle of Seasons and ages.

+sydney Maldonado plus at the time I was only 7 so I didn't enjoy ocarina & majoras mask cause I was so young

I wasn't a fan of Majoras Mask. Not to say it probably wasn't a good game. It gets mad recognition. And for good reason. I just can't do the 3 Day Limit. Yes, I know of the Song of Reverse Time, but it's still there. It nerve racks me.

I don't like it because of the time limit I can't play any game if the whole game has a time limit that you can prolong its like having a gun pressed two your head that will fire at six if you don't find the combination to the safe for me

S March Preferences are a thing, sorry if others don't match your own.

It's not a masterpiece if it's quaint m8

+Jessica Black and you need to go away and stop acting like people can't enjoy games due to their opinon

It's a good game but not a masterpiece in my opinion

It was a masterpiece in it's day, nothing came close to it. It was as revolutionary to adventure games as Mario 64 was to platformers.

@@firefly7980 Let's forget Tomb Raider that came out two years prior and was an adventure game as well.

That would be fine if not for the fact that there's way too much dialogue in this game. If the game wasn't going for story, then it wouldn't have so many cutscenes and so much dialogue.

Uh, Shadow Temple actually sucks and it's possiblity the worst dungeon design in the game. It's incredibly linear and basic.

Eh. Not an fan of the Forest Temple. Way too big & mazy liked.

Sometime this year, he said

Really!? YES!!!!!!! ...I just came a little.

+Ice Cream Dragon Along with another Pokémon marathon and Kingdom Hearts

+Cody Orvik Say what!? lol

+Cody Orvik Huh...

***** Maybe it's because I've been playing it for so many years, but it never takes me that long... at least not more than Great Bay temple... but nobody ever mentions that one xD

overrated? you mean infamous? i fucking hate the Water Temple and i never want to go back to this game because of it

GravityZero No I meant overrated. It never gave me problems. Nowhere near as annoyng as the Great Bay Temple

TS Prism How... :o i hate u

GravityZero Ah? What's your problem?

because master quest wasn't reduntant...................

GenmaTheSamurai It... wasn't... It was a nice way to experience the game again with a higher challenge.

And the GBA version was a new experience with a new game in it, and an extra dungeon. Master quest only really changed the dungeons, everything else stayed the same. As well as also having the original.

there wasn't too much idle moments for me on the great sea. and at times i was only sailing around, there was the soundtrack... oh my, what a song...

alright, i get that, but hyrule field had NOTHING!!

great sea was pretty boring until you got the ballad of gales or Swift sail (only in wii u remake of wind waker). termina field was ok but it felt a bit too small

isn't that a positive?

Im A Cat Meow Meow Isn't being small good? It's not that small, to be honest.

*facepalm*

that sounds like an English butchering of a Mexican word.

Same. Been a fan since 2013

KillerDragon jeez calm down not everyone has to like the game

Yeah. Ocarina of Time is an very slow paste game because of how massive & empty the world designs of Hyrule takes and with nothing to speed up your movements like Pegasus Boots or Bunny Ears, it can take an very long time to complete. Not to mentioned the characters in the game are just one side dimensional with no interesting personalities. I did manage to beat the game and kinda enjoyed it. But man. It was chore and didn't nearly had this much fun as I could've. There are better Zelda games out there I rather play. Especially Majora's Mask.

And iron boots is an item that you can put on one of the buttons. No more pausing the game to put on boots.

Same.

Damm right.

tell that to speedrunners

marmike300 I was saying if you didn't speedrun. I know how fast it can be done in a speedrun

***** No you didn't specify.

ARBITER WARPIG I should have then. Did Johnny?

I don't think so.

Nagisa Hazuki It wasn't just the marketplace. Before each Temple it shows you the devastation of Ganon's rule (the Goron imprisonment, the freezing of the Zoras, etc.)

I know. I just wanted to tease a bit.

Honestly, I enjoy Ganondorf's rule over Hyrule, I don't have to deal with Peaheats.

Nagisa Hazuki Majora's mask does a much better job of showing how evil affected the entire land and creating a connection with those living in it

I'm personally not that into the majority of Ocarina of Time's characters, to be honest.

Ong😭

For what it is, it's amazing. No longer is it an exploration game, but more of an RPG. Comparing it to A Link to The Past, you see that it's VERY different. In ALTTP, you're told what to do for a short time. Like typical RPGs, Ocarina takes you on a tour. In Ocarina, you pretty much pass through roadblocks to reach more roadblocks.

Yep.

But it could have been soooo much better. Imagine a gameplay like skyrim in oot. That would meet the standards for lttp

Nintendo64Gamer64 While it`s not my favorite game it`s pretty good, I just didn`t like it as much as Majoras Mask, Wind Waker HD, or A Link Between Worlds. (Those are the only zelda games i have played, I`m new to the francise)

TheCrafterMaster I'm new to it as well and I'm considering getting WW HD. So how is it in your opinion?

I know this is old af but... HA!

Wrong game.

+Heath Wilson (Sir Ike, Hero of Crimea) no, right game

Essa Man That quote is from Majora's Mask. Not Ocarina of Time. Therefore it was the wrong game he quoted.

+flyingplatypus4889 My 2nd favourite zelda game but HOLY SHET LOOK AT TIS I GOT BLUE RUPEEEE IT IS 5 RUPEEEESSSSSS YEAH

You've never played it?

Rusty Shackleford Nope. I've played very few Nintendo games. I just got a Wii U recently but never ownded a Nintendo console. I'm playing through the Metroid Prime series now.

i think it can be a good thing to some extent... for exemple: glitches and halfassness aside, i decided not to play sonic boom because the characters wouldn't shut up. those snarky one-liners had me annoyed even though i was only watching playthroughs of it.

Ikr? Gerudo valley is something that I can alway hum :-)

That's not a hard thing to do

True.

It's good to know he has more personality than a manikin head.

Nope. It's shit and only hipster geeks like it

+Jessica Black stop

It is shit

@@ironspyder-db8fd LMAO not even close it's a fantastic game to this game. And you have to be moron to think otherwise or even thinking it's close to 'sHiT"

@@jessicablack5913 LMAO not even close it's a fantastic game to this game. And you have to be moron to think otherwise or even thinking it's close to 'sHiT"