The Origins of European Imperialism

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Johnny Harris

Johnny Harris

Жыл бұрын

How Europe Dominated the Planet
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Ep 2 and 3: • How Europe Stole The W...
Correction: 01:07 I characterize Europe as a “continent full of poor miserable farmers” and later go on to compare it to the “thriving” empires elsewhere. While it is indeed true that Europe in the 1400s was full of famine, plague, war, and general suffering, it’s inaccurate to say that Europeans were much worse off than people living in any other parts of the world. Especially if you look to Southern Europe where an explosion of art, science, and trade was taking place at this time. The accurate point would be to say that Europe had been relatively cut off from the world since the Ottoman Empire blocked them from historical trade routes. Europe was not deeply connected to global trade, which was mostly happening in the Indian Ocean regions at that time.
Correction: 04:50 see the correction from 01:07
Correction: 05:43 As noted earlier, Europeans had trade connections with the east. During this time they were cut off by the Ottoman Empire for the reasons I explain in the video
Correction: 07:21 While Portugal had gone out trading and exploring Western Africa first, I present it as if Portugal had made it to Asia before Spain decided to start exploring. This isn’t right. Columbus’ journey west (1492) happened a few years before Portugal’s first voyage that reached India (lead by Vasco da Gama in 1497).
Correction: 08:55 This little dramatization mischaracterizes what happened here. As many have pointed it out it feels like I’m asserting that Columbus “invented” imperialism in this moment. And indeed the way this is presented implies that. Columbus did NOT invent the idea of taking over land. In fact, a part of his contract with the royals was that he would take over any land he could while on this journey. The important point here is that Columbus set out to get in on trade in the east, but that the “discovery” of the America’s turned those efforts away from looking for new trade routes, to a full blown imperial project in the Americas. That’s the point I was trying ot make, but missed the mark in this overly dramatized moment.
Correction: 16:02 In addition “their weapons” and “their city germs” It would have been more accurate to mention a major tool for the conquerors which was the exploitation of local politics and alliances. The conquest of these huge swaths of land required Europeans to ally with and rely on local expertise and man power to colonize these territories.
The Library of Congress has a wonderful map collection which I used to get high res versions of a lot of these old maps. Thank you Library of Congress!
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@LucasSantos-ji1zp
@LucasSantos-ji1zp Жыл бұрын
Just an addendum. When Portuguese came to Brasil, they saw an abundance of a tree along the coast which could be used to produce a bright red paint. Such plants weren't all that common in Europe, and so red paint was expensive and a sign of status. These plants were called "pau brasil", meaning "brasil wood", and "brasil" is a term that originated from French meaning "brazier". So "pau brasil" is a tree that can be used to produce something that looks like a "brazier". They were so excited that they could finally produce this expensive paint in abundance, that they named this land after the product they were after, calling it "Terra do Brasil", literally "Land of Brazil", which then was shortened to just "Brasil". This tree almost went extinct.
@johnnyharris
@johnnyharris Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for sharing
@alexwendt9570
@alexwendt9570 Жыл бұрын
And this is also why we call ourselves "brasileiros" (with -eiro) like a profession (sapateiro = shoemaker) the first ones to be born here are to extract this wood.
@ObaidFaisal
@ObaidFaisal Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyharris oh my god he replies
@189Blake
@189Blake Жыл бұрын
@@alexwendt9570 Hey, you're correct, I have never noticed that. You don't say Brasiles or something like that, but Brasileiro. Interesting.
@AzoreanProud
@AzoreanProud Жыл бұрын
Hmm doesn't Brasil means paradise land? There was places named Brasil before Brasil. Like in Azores islands.
@ewoudalliet1734
@ewoudalliet1734 Жыл бұрын
1:05 - "a continent of poor miserable farmers" I hear this a lot from people claiming Europe was a backwater (and that "only colonisation" made Europe rich and prosperous). Whilst this was true for the early part of the Middle Ages, due to frequent raids by Vikings, Steppe peoples, low population figures etc. (which devestated the region and were less than ideal circumstances for development) this isn't really correct (unless of course you apply modern standards, which would be a useless comparison, but then you're definitely right). Since the High Middle Ages (starting 1000AD), (especially Western) Europe had actually been rapidly developing; population skyrocketed, new farming techniques were introduced (the "Ostsiedlung" being an example of early colonization; as well as the Crusades one of expanding influence; which in turn also brought knowledge to Europe), universities were introduced, architectural techniques improved... During the Renaissance (parts of) Europe would in fact become one of the most developed "regions" on the planet, much like the Middle East at that time. Of course do note that Europe is a continent; some regions did better at certain period. For the High - Late Middle Ages this was mostly northern Italy, southern Germany, the Low Countries etc. This is important as this is why Portuguese explorers decided to look for new trade routes to Asia/India; when the Ottomans/Muslim had taken control of trade routes previously used (mostly by Italian merchants from Venice etc.; hence their decline as the Ottomans taxed trade; hence also why the Pax Mongolica was such a prosperous period for Silk Route Trade). You also claimed that the other empires along the Silk Route were already trading and had more valuable goods than Europe did. I'm sorry to say this; but that's almost outrageous as it completely defeats the purpose of trade. You can't trade if you don't have anything valuable to offer in return. Europe had been on the edge of the Silk Route since the time of the Romans and had participated in trade since then. The only issue it had was that it was relatively isolated meaning that it payed large amounts of taxes (as all countries added tax; so every country taxed a merchant passing through; by the time he arrived in Europe his goods were pretty expensive and this wasn't very "efficient" and it drained wealth - so exploration wasn't just fueled by curiousity, but also by well... money, I mean, it almost always is) and was highly dependent on "upstream" states (e.g. embargoes) - similarly, during the Roman period Silk Road trade financed the Persians, a major Roman enemy. Unlike the others which had easier access. If what you claimed was true; then trade with India wouldn't have made Portugal ridiculously rich; because what would they give the Indians if they had nothing to offer and were poor? Now, the main question: what did Europeans export? Glass (beads, windows etc.), textiles (silk wasn't the only desirable textile; e.g. wool and linen), furs, animals, jewelry and metalworks, olive oil, (grape) wine, honey, walnuts, etc. and yes, even slaves were traded on the Silk Road. So, instead of arguing Europe was poor; didn't trade on the Silk Road and had little (valuable) goods to trade; a more correct explanation would be that Europe was geopolitically isolated, payed exorbitant amounts of taxes to trade on the Silk Road and that European division caused states to look for ways to get any advantage they could over the other. Also note that the discovery of new trade routes was horrible for some Silk Road countries such as the Ottoman Empire; as now they'd get less taxes. Also, Europeans did have black peppers before the Portuguese arrived in India, as Europe did trade on the Silk Road before that. It's what brought Marco Polo to China and what made the Venetians and Genoans so rich (in fact, the Italians often held monopolies, which was another reason for the Portuguese to sail around Africa; so they could compete - European countries were constantly trying to get the edge over the other). The earliest records of black peppers in Europe date back to the Romans. By the way; the high cost of trade (distance; taxes etc.) explains why goods like black peppers were so rare and valuable in Europe. The opposite was true for European goods in China. Also about silk, it was produced in Europe too, but in smaller quantities (Kos silk or Coa Vestis since 4th century BC, but Chinese silk became more popular; northern Italy, especially the Como region since 1000AD etc.) As for the Amerindians not having armies and making no resistance: what? And Europeans did (not always, but often) still trade with Amerindians too - and interestingly, initially also often guided peace negotiations between different tribes. Although you are definitely correct about Columbus laying the fundaments of imperialism with his treatment of the Taino people. I really liked the maps though. I think that generally speaking you gave a pretty good representation of what happened. I'm certainly curious for the next two videos. Sorry if I used a lot of brackets, but I think this comment would've been even bigger if I didn't.
@pumpkineater0076
@pumpkineater0076 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the Best comment under this video. I don’t understand why he left crucial points like these out of this video and opted for a much more judgemental approach instead of a well-researched factual one.
@ShankarSivarajan
@ShankarSivarajan Жыл бұрын
It doesn't change the points you're making, which I agree with, but "you can't trade if you don't have anything valuable to offer in return" isn't _quite_ right, unless you torture the definition of "valuable" to fit: a _comparative_ advantage is enough.
@gamaltk
@gamaltk Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking your time to write this comment! Am wondering, where did you learn all of this? (feel free to share sources if you have time 😄)
@denisamua127
@denisamua127 Жыл бұрын
Really good points!
@beastateverythin
@beastateverythin Жыл бұрын
Really awesome comment!
@emmyabroad
@emmyabroad 8 ай бұрын
My graduate class just used this video to power a conversation about the responsibility of content creators in creating accurate historical content. As an example of what NOT to do.
@armanbasurto7604
@armanbasurto7604 Жыл бұрын
With all due respect: this is by far the topic you have covered that I am most familiar with, and the video is so plagued by historical errors that I am starting to wonder whether the things I learnt watching other videos from your channel were as accurate as I thought they were when I watched them.
@Fadogar911
@Fadogar911 Жыл бұрын
i feel the exact same way!
@LoneWolfPvP
@LoneWolfPvP Жыл бұрын
my exact same thought process. made me rethink johnny's credibility
@rodsampson6763
@rodsampson6763 Жыл бұрын
Arman Basurto you are right
@BriedisLTU
@BriedisLTU Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that every country has their touch to the history they teach in schools.
@Fadogar911
@Fadogar911 Жыл бұрын
@@BriedisLTU this is not about a touch... this is misinformation
@BruhMoment-cs6tj
@BruhMoment-cs6tj Жыл бұрын
Before Imperial age, Muslims also viewed themself as superior (hence 'Khairu Ummah'/The Best People) and drew map with Mecca in its center. Up to Opium War, Chinese was also viewed themself as superior and see their culture as the center of civilization (hence Zhong Guo or Central Kingdom). They also drew the map with them in its center. So much story about human nature, tribalism, and superiority complex can be seen from a simple map.
@anirudhthakur3453
@anirudhthakur3453 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely true ✅✅
@Vingul
@Vingul Жыл бұрын
Nature is good. Trying to change it is folly.
@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi Жыл бұрын
If only The Indians could do that we wouldn't have been looted, murdered and forcefully converted by the Mughals. Still we stood the test of time.
@syedmohammadaanasfarukh890
@syedmohammadaanasfarukh890 Жыл бұрын
On point, on point.
@hassmann2000
@hassmann2000 Жыл бұрын
@@anirudhthakur3453 What is also true is India's fascist far right proliferation - that even the Nazi's were proud of! In today's times no less.
@gabrielking1247
@gabrielking1247 Жыл бұрын
The opening of the video is inaccurate, Europe had already been involved in the Silk Road trade routes, and had only been locked out in the 1400s by the ottomans, thus encouraging the search for other trade routes to the east
@pierzing.glint1sh76
@pierzing.glint1sh76 Жыл бұрын
Europe was not a union then don't forget, they had no chance against a united ottoman empire. It is not correct to say ''europe'' had been involved with the silk road, any more than it is to say that ''europe stole the world'' The idea that europe as a whole was involved in a an east west trade route only makes sense if Europe was a united entity, and the last time that was true was under the romans nearly 1500 years before the events in the video. There definitely an was an established route then, but it died long before the ottomans even existed The ottomans actually boosted trade east west by having large amounts of land under one single government. This enabled goods to pass much more easily, provided you could pay for it. So if anything, they actually boosted trade alot more than what it was, and they became rich. Naturally, the french english dutch spanish wanted a piece of the action so they had to try find their own route east. It wasnt like there was a huge roman road put in 2000 years ago that the ottomans found and simply cut off and that starved Europe the way russia is doing today. No. That was absolutely not the case.
@gabrielking1247
@gabrielking1247 Жыл бұрын
@@pierzing.glint1sh76 the western Roman Empire collapsed ~450ad, so *nearly* 1000 years not 1500, and Ofcourse the Byzantine empire had lasted right up Untill the 1400s. Why does Europe need to be a United entity to engage in Eastern trade? Does the production of traceable goods stop once a single central bureaucracy no longer commands it? The Silk Road was not a rod from the Roman Empire to China but a web of land and maritime trade routes with hundreds of individual states along the way, India had no problem trading while separated into dozens of states, why would Europe(besides losing access to these routes once the Ottoman Empire took control of the eastern Mediterranean)
@girlsquad224
@girlsquad224 Жыл бұрын
The trade monopoly and gate keeping of the Ottoman empire and the Venetian republic basically kickstarted the exploration of the western coastal nation-states of Europe.
@zacharym167
@zacharym167 Жыл бұрын
So basically it not even close to being as one sided as he said and remember the the pope back then sadly 😞 was easily persuade by money or things so his words did not represent the Christian/catholic view and the the reason why the Spanish did not like Jews was because of what the Jewish people believe in same thing for Muslims witch is understandable at that time Ps: please don’t think of catholic people in a bad way by this video
@philipplyanguzov9090
@philipplyanguzov9090 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielking1247 The Byzantines were Roman and were referred to as such by their contemporaries. Their culture and legal systems were a continuation of Old Roman traditions in ways that their western counterpart was not. They are only a different state by our modern understanding of the word.
@diegoborrajo1323
@diegoborrajo1323 Жыл бұрын
This is just basic highschool history with cool transitions, spooky music and incorrect facts
@diegoborrajo1323
@diegoborrajo1323 Жыл бұрын
Why represent half of Spain in the map? By 1492, when Colombus sailed to America (he didn't land on Cuba by the way) the South Islamic kingdom of Granada was already conquered. And if you want to represent the two main kingdoms of Castilla and Aragon as separate entities and not yet united in a single country, then don't assign the name of Spain to the kingdom of Castilla, who was by the way ruled by a queen, Isabel I, not a king as you say in the video.
@ignacioa5476
@ignacioa5476 Жыл бұрын
@@diegoborrajo1323 me sangraban los ojos cuando vi el vídeo. Sabe tanto de historia como mi hamster
@BettyDrum
@BettyDrum Жыл бұрын
how you rewrite history is almost as fun as real history
@matteomagurno3068
@matteomagurno3068 Жыл бұрын
It is daunting how this video has almost 2mln views now but johnny harris refuses to remove it… given he’s admitted to being wrong in this video it’s now become just monetization on forthright misinformation, coming from the very person who proclaims himself a champion of evidence and facts! I’m truly disappointed.
@jarry8150
@jarry8150 11 ай бұрын
colonizers do it er day
@MasterShake9000
@MasterShake9000 11 ай бұрын
The accuracy of your comment is as low as the effort you put into it. I’m guessing your comment reflects on the value level of the commenter as well. It’s hilarious when people like you try to act all high and superior by TAKING THE TIME TO WATCH AND COMMENT. JFC the cringe of how inept y’all are at this. 😂😂
@Crackparty803
@Crackparty803 10 ай бұрын
@@jarry8150 behave yourself
@Karlach_
@Karlach_ 6 ай бұрын
@@jarry8150 What colonizers? The age of colonialism is over with my man.
@Gorrage
@Gorrage Жыл бұрын
The Europeans at the time of Columbus didn't think the earth was small (based on the visual presented). The approximate circumference of the Earth had been known since Roman times and the prospect of traveling west was considered dangerous because you'd have to travel enormous distances to reach Asia that way. Columbus purportedly believed the earth was significantly smaller than the general consensus (based on no real evidence) and therefore traveling west would be viable.
@aeternavictrix7861
@aeternavictrix7861 Жыл бұрын
No evidence made him discover new land and marked his name in history. Evidence is not everything
@NA.NA..
@NA.NA.. Жыл бұрын
Did he believe the world was smaller than measured or that Asia was larger than reportered.
@Booth-
@Booth- Жыл бұрын
@@NA.NA.. Yep, i believe the consensus was something between 'asia is bigger than we think and/or it makes sense if some lands exist inbetween'
@saarthel8532
@saarthel8532 Жыл бұрын
The no evidence part is debatable as it seemed some Portuguese fishermen had already crossed the Atlantic a few times and a rumor could've been already spreading.
@AM-mu2kv
@AM-mu2kv Жыл бұрын
@@saarthel8532 Even the amazigh used to call it the dark sea. No one was recorded returning from their journey so only a few took the risk
@bengiyardimli1925
@bengiyardimli1925 Жыл бұрын
The whole video is like a history lesson but for some reason it feels like its being told backwards. Like European explorers didn't actually decide suddenly to go east from land to start trading just to find out it was blocked. It was already a trade route going hundreds of years into the past that was suddenly cut off.
@recoverhealth2062
@recoverhealth2062 Жыл бұрын
Hundreds no, thousands, The Roman Empire knew China existed and Alexander conquered everything between Greece and India.
@hormpir3648
@hormpir3648 Жыл бұрын
Thats actually a really common misconception but it's completely wrong. The Silk Road trade route wasn't cut off by the Ottoman Empire, because it never ran through that area primarily in the first place. Most trade from the East at this time came through Egypt, which had yet to be conquered, and still remained steady and equally lucrative after the fall of Constantinople. As for the trade coming through Ottoman territory, that wasn't cut off either, because the Ottomans had no incentive to "cut off" trade. That'd just be shooting themselves in the foot economically. The truth is that the European exploration around Africa wasn't in response to being cut off, but rather it was an attempt to cut off the OTTOMANS.
@glyphiest6762
@glyphiest6762 Жыл бұрын
This re-telling of history is simply a shoehorning of cherry picked facts into a pre-existing ideologically based narrative. He's started with a thesis and set out to prove it. He is a proper layman attempting a deeply academic area.
@kofisam4106
@kofisam4106 Жыл бұрын
@@hormpir3648 that’s a lie, how can poor Europe cut off richer Ottoman Empire? They chose the African route, because the ottomans were powerful and they were not allowing the Europeans to pass through their empire to trade directly with the eastern kingdoms, in fact the ottomans want to be the middlemen... So the economy of Europe became stagnant because of the blockade of their trade route by the ottomans. So in order to survive, they have to opt for the African route.
@kacperwoch4368
@kacperwoch4368 Жыл бұрын
Saying that by 1450 europe was poor and the rest of the world was rich is already a red flag signaling the whole video is bullshit. And those "european men" who drew the maps were spanish, portuguese and ottoman, the vast majority of europe did not participate in the age of discovery.
@Tulpen23
@Tulpen23 Жыл бұрын
I always get excited when you bring out the maps!
@alvinbontuyan279
@alvinbontuyan279 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Excellent content as always thank you John
@zakrio5022
@zakrio5022 Жыл бұрын
A well produced video absolutely full to the brim of historical innacuracies and ignorance, far too invested in telling a good story and not placing the focus on the historical context regarding the events depicted in this video. The idea that europe pre-colonization was a shithole compared to other civilizations of it's time did give me a chuckle though 🤣
@JohnDoe-nf6yk
@JohnDoe-nf6yk Жыл бұрын
@@charliemilroy6497 Europeans did not have superior armies in the 1400’s to 1600’s. I’ll grant that they had superior navies due to the fact that many Europeans drew power from their navy. If I was to say the best army would likely not go to Europe but the Turks. Given that the Turks were essentially undefeated until lepanto. Which was a naval battle anyway.
@madflaka4087
@madflaka4087 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-nf6yk The Turks were quite literally defeated by the Venetian‘s in Naval combat they were actually pretty bad when assessing how to make a navy because they’ve been horse warrior nomads throughout the entirety of their existence much of which they copied from the Byzantine navy and brought many janisaries to lead their fleets like Hayreddin Barbaros .
@JohnDoe-nf6yk
@JohnDoe-nf6yk Жыл бұрын
@@madflaka4087 I acknowledged that they were inferior in navy please read my message fully next time. The truth is the ottomans were functionally undefeated in any major land battle for a very long time against europeans
@Yellow.1844
@Yellow.1844 Жыл бұрын
cope brazilian
@JohnDoe-nf6yk
@JohnDoe-nf6yk Жыл бұрын
@@Yellow.1844 I’m not Brazilian
@josephtoner7355
@josephtoner7355 Жыл бұрын
I think others have mentioned this but this video just seems far too reductive for the purpose of constructing a simple narrative. The idea that Christopher Columbus went to Cuba and then just invented colonialism on his own while none of his crew agreed is wild. The agreement he reached with the Spanish crown before the voyage was that they would take over the land and he would be rewarded with being Viceroy and Governor of the land. Also Portugal didn't enter the Indian Ocean via the South African route until after Columbus' voyage, rather they first travelled overland routes through the middle east to India and Ethiopia. These routes notably passed through the Ottoman Empire which in the video you say didn't occur as it was refused. There's probably way more stuff that it makes it hard to draw out conclusions. I think portraying it all as some big plan as well is a bit disingenuous, to me the arguably scarier aspect of imperialism is that it emerged through shifts in the economy not through the nefarious plans of a few bad guys. Your videos look better than any other videos essayist just please for the love of god do a little bit of factchecking.
@jmoralesh
@jmoralesh Жыл бұрын
This! And bypassing all the events that happened around the Mediterranean north-east.
@ruan13o
@ruan13o Жыл бұрын
Great point. This narrative is a bit like the Disney film Pocahontas where all the colonialists were nice people apart from the 'evil' captain and once he was stopped all the English people happily sailed home.
@chaosXP3RT
@chaosXP3RT Жыл бұрын
I love when Johnny does a video does a video about the USA, people are like: "Hell yeah! This is so accurate! Screw the USA!" But when it's a video not about the USA it suddenly becomes all about defending and deflecting about the subject in the video. Very interesting and hypocritical human behavior. It makes me wonder how many lies about the USA exist simply because people don't care about the truth. They only want to demonize.
@josephtoner7355
@josephtoner7355 Жыл бұрын
@@chaosXP3RT it's not about defending at all. His information is just plain wrong. I think it's important that more people are educated and informed about the horrors and legacy of colonialism. This video to me does not provide helpful insight into it because it neglects key facts of the period. It studies the area of Europe in extreme isolation removed from the geopolitical context. It treats Europe as if it acts in any unified fashion. Idk why it makes someone hypocritical to point out that he got several facts wrong here and it weakens the claims of his argument. To be clear I agree with the basic through line of the video that colonialism and imperialism were systems of untold oppression and exploitation that ruined untold numbers of lives perpetrated by European states. It should be recognised that it has had a profoundly negative affect on my countries at the benefit of European nations. If your gonna express that though, get your facts about it right. It really doesn't take much effort to check this stuff, especially the Columbus ones that are just plain silly.
@nomankenneth
@nomankenneth Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed his videos but I feel like they've taken a turn more recently... the constant drumming of "old white men", "white men", "men" and then add "christian" now and again feel like I'm watching a segment from the MSM.
@RoyceVera
@RoyceVera Жыл бұрын
This used to be part one of a series, I hope you continue with this subject
@khalithered-dobbie7149
@khalithered-dobbie7149 Жыл бұрын
Johnny I'm eagerly waiting on the next episode! Ur the man brotha! Keep putting up content!
@Kriegter
@Kriegter Жыл бұрын
The fall of Constantinople was one of the major reasons for all the other stuff that happened later on as what was once the most significant trade route is now under Ottoman control
@JonasPrudas
@JonasPrudas Жыл бұрын
The is was important indeed. The excape route for Europe would happen through the "empty" western side, by boats.
@lucaesposito6896
@lucaesposito6896 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and after that only Venice had the right to trade with the East, and that made them even richer
@giovanni_vaz_cardoso
@giovanni_vaz_cardoso Жыл бұрын
True but the portuguese started their african and atlantic explorations before 1453, so there were already sparks of the idea before that, however I do get that even before 1453 Constantinople was so small and surrounded by ottomans suffering constant attacks that they no longer had any significant grip on the trade, so you could still say that might have influenced the portuguese to try to get in on the trade themselves even if they started before they got the news of constantinople's demise.
@MRK-uy4vz
@MRK-uy4vz Жыл бұрын
Constantinople, which was ruled by Christians, was so corrupt that it had to be "conquered". And after the Ottomans the local people got a better life under the Muslims than before. It's funny that you see this conquest as a reason for all these events, is it also the result of the Europeans continuing colonialism today? Or is it all the result of their greed?
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil Жыл бұрын
I feel as thoughr the fall of constantinople doesn't really affect the european expansion westward The portugese were battling the mamelukes in the arabian sea ling before the byzantines fell Also the orthodox catholic schism was seen just as deadly as the religious wars between Islam and christianity So the fall if the eastern Roman's didnt leave as much of an impact except for maybe some extra trade deals with the venetians and the genoese losing their influence in the black sea
@tomasmartins5009
@tomasmartins5009 Жыл бұрын
I'm Portuguese and we study these things in school for multiple years in History class. I found this video overly simplistic to the point of being misleading and kind of just wrong. Europe was a place of poor farmers and so they had to go explore? The ones who decided to explore the world were the kings and nobles. And to say the people they conquered didn't have armies or very few and didn't resist is plain wrong, so many indigenous were killed in these crusades...
@samthesuspect
@samthesuspect Жыл бұрын
Look man it doesn't fit his narrative, so don't bring it up.
@fillosof66689
@fillosof66689 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention perpetuating the myths about the Middle Ages all of them actual historians spent decades at this point trying to combat.
@tylerlockwood9864
@tylerlockwood9864 Жыл бұрын
Johnny didn’t say that people didn’t resist, Columbus did. I believe he was using simplistic language to best explain what must have been a somewhat complex situation, where we can only assume intent based off the words of people long dead. Most history books do this. That doesn’t make the history “wrong.”
@bendover4668
@bendover4668 Жыл бұрын
Be proud of your Portuguese heritage, your power can come back if you embrace imperialism.
@miahconnell23
@miahconnell23 Жыл бұрын
Portugal is actually really special when it comes to colonization, de-colonization, and the teaching of these things. An exceptionally cool linguist professor from Coimbra taught us about Damman, Diu, Goa, Guinea-Bissau, etc. and among/within this teaching was interviews with anti-colonial revolutionaries. My ethnicity is mostly all Irish, and I told the professor that anti-colonial Irish revolutionaries mostly probably wouldn’t be on camera speaking on what’s happened and what they may or may not have done. So, he then explained about the 1974 Carnation Revolution… This is something REALLY worth learning about…
@gds1233
@gds1233 Жыл бұрын
Anxiously waiting for more parts on this
@BrodieB762
@BrodieB762 8 ай бұрын
4:05 That sound when it zoomed out from the map and then said Ch.1 EXPLORATION Was so on Point! Omgosh it just clicked so perfectly!!!! Awesome point of sound. This is what I do for a living with sounds and video and that tiny sound made the introduction so perfect!!!!! The spyglass or binocular sound just made that intro! Along with the maps! Aahhh that was so perfect!!!
@thomaswhitcomb624
@thomaswhitcomb624 Жыл бұрын
I’ll preface by saying I usually like your videos, but this video in my opinion has some cataclysmic errors. The context you prefix European expansion is just plain wrong. Trade between Europe and Asia was commonplace for millennia so stating that Spain and Portugal tried to find a land route to Asia is nonsensical. European powers were virtually cut off from the spice trade due to the ottoman empires expansion in the Middle East cutting the preexisting land route to Asia, leading the Portuguese to pioneer the cape route to the Indian Ocean sphere of trade. The statement that European’s were simply poor peasants compared the wealthy empires in the east is also incredibly reductive and is founded in an old fashioned misconception. This may be true for some parts of euopre in particular England. But areas like italy were going through the Renaissance and cities like Venice were flourishing due to trade with Asia. This misconception is mainly due to Europeans not having trade goods which other parts of the world desired and is the only proof you use to justify your point. We’ve only just started the video at this point. The title matter of ‘How’ Europe stole the world isn’t really dealt with in an engaging or direct way. The Essence being Europe rocked up place, saw no resistance and claimed it. This is an incredibly reductive way of describing what happened. There is no attention paid to the actual how. For instance, just as an example, the Spanish targeted the large preexisting empires in the Americas (the Inca and the Actec empires) removed their monarchy and installed themselves into the already existing power structures allowing rapid growth in the Americas. This small tidbit is reductive but provides more of insight into a method of which the Spanish used to conquer much of the America’s in such a small amount of time. I just feel not enough attention is paid to the actual history of this period and I’m just hearing a generalised and often stereotyped overview of what happened in this period. I encourage anyone who reads this comment to do some research into this topic it is genuinely really interesting (potentially my favourite in all of history) and come to their own conclusions as there are many different interpretations of events. Do not take everything said in this video as gospel as their are numerous inaccuracies and it’s narrative is incredibly reductive. I’m certain if you do do research you’d have a more nuanced view in regards to this matter. Keep creating Johnny, love the videos, just think this one is a bit of a miss.
@matthowells6382
@matthowells6382 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean in particular England? With the exception of Italy, England was no poorer than anywhere else in Europe, quite the opposite in fact. Just because there’s a big focus on English medieval history a lot of the time, with peasants and kings, doesn’t mean they were poorer than the rest of Europe or the world. That’s how all societies were set up…
@rufus9508
@rufus9508 Жыл бұрын
Found interesting your response and totally agree with it, the approach to the history is too reductive. I love Johnny's videos but I feel this topic needs to be explained more deeply, so I hope the next videos will do so.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter Жыл бұрын
@@matthowells6382 England was quite poor compared to Flanders for example, were they sailed to to get bricks. They were pretty experienced at warfare, also naval, but as an economic power they only got big in and towards the 18th century. Most societies were feudal but England was not early with change.
@matthowells6382
@matthowells6382 Жыл бұрын
@@DenUitvreter I agree, I’m not saying that England was especially wealthy throughout its earlier history, but it shouldn’t be singled out as particularly poor either
@RodrickAlbert123
@RodrickAlbert123 Жыл бұрын
It’s a 17 minute video on KZfaq-of course it’s going to be reductive. It’s also the first of three parts, so hopefully he will cover more of the details of “how” Europeans conquered much of the world.
@jordanmagera2880
@jordanmagera2880 Жыл бұрын
Edit: I applaud the efforts Johnny is making to rectify the accuracy of his future video. I am impressed by his humility and understanding, a characteristic that is missing in much of today’s world. He is working with Jochem on his future videos to help him with his fact checking. I hope we can all appreciate this pursuit of truth. Thank you for listening Johnny!!
@accountrecovery5427
@accountrecovery5427 Жыл бұрын
Truth about your race hurts, right?
@victorslyvester8977
@victorslyvester8977 Жыл бұрын
He is a liberal wat do u expect
@abzdudy1
@abzdudy1 Жыл бұрын
@@victorslyvester8977 I am a liberal and left wing and I still criticise him. Most of the commenters will probably be liberals criticising him. Liberals are not stupid. We want facts and truth as much.
@benjaminmontenegro3423
@benjaminmontenegro3423 Жыл бұрын
@@victorslyvester8977 in fact he already took note and said that he wants to have better sources
@lampda7336
@lampda7336 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmontenegro3423 "oops i got called out, time to apologize!"
@andrewwilson6301
@andrewwilson6301 11 ай бұрын
I love it when Johnny gets the maps out
@white4392
@white4392 Жыл бұрын
Totally awaiting for the next part
@matheusGMN
@matheusGMN Жыл бұрын
as a Brazilian, one thing we learn is that the Portuguese were expert navigators, when they drew up the treaty of tordesilhas, despite never seeing the "new world" before in their lives, they already knew there had to be land, at some distance, over there, so much so that they refused the initial proposal by Spain and demanded one with more nautical miles west so that they could be sure there would be land for them. From what I understand, they knew this because the current in Africa flows upwards from South to the North, so they figured that there must be something, in the other side of the ocean, where the current is stopped and forced to go from North to the South, and they pretty much used that information with the size of the current to figure out how far away it was, and make sure how far away they had to demand to get land, that's why the first Portuguese expedition that found land in 1500 was dead on, and why their trajectory looked like they just did a pit stop on their way to India
@jimmytimmy3680
@jimmytimmy3680 Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting.
@witthyhumpleton3514
@witthyhumpleton3514 Жыл бұрын
It's curious because we are taught that the Portuguese initially meant to use the currents cirulating south from the equator to quicker get around the Cape of Good Hope in south Africa, but being taken further west by the current which led to them finding a mass of land there.
@antoniopags1185
@antoniopags1185 Жыл бұрын
Este vídeo está cheio de erros esquece 😅
@orblach9521
@orblach9521 Жыл бұрын
@@witthyhumpleton3514 they passed close to Brazil before the treaty being settled , so they had an idea that there was land to that side
@guilhermevelhote5307
@guilhermevelhote5307 Жыл бұрын
Most likely Brasil was already physically known at that time, but kept top secret by the Portuguese crown for strategic reasons
@redroyce4590
@redroyce4590 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the trade route East existed for a long time already (as in the Roman times already). But it was 'suddenly' cut off (Ottoman Empire) so the Europeans decided to find another route to the East. Not like they suddenly had an itch to go East and trade as if they never did it before. Also Europe wasn't just a bunch of only poor farmers before...
@pierzing.glint1sh76
@pierzing.glint1sh76 Жыл бұрын
The idea that europe as a whole was involved in a an east west trade route only makes sense if Europe was a united entity, and the last time that was true was under the romans nearly 1500 years before the events in the video. There definitely an was an established route then, but it died long before the ottomans even existed. Europe wasn't poor but it was utterly disunited and certainly not very strong at the time, and there was no pan European connection to the silk road that the ottomans ''suddenly'' put their foot on. The ottomans actually would have boosted trade east west by having large amounts of land under one single government. This enabled goods to pass much more easily, provided you could pay for it. So if anything, they actually boosted trade a-lot more than what it was, and they became rich. Naturally, the French English Dutch Spanish wanted a piece of the action so they had to try find their own route east. It wasn't an itch but it was something they could only do after the kingdoms of Spain united into one country. It wasn't like there was a huge roman road put in 2000 years ago that the ottomans found and simply cut off and that starved Europe the way russia is doing today. No. That was absolutely not the case.
@willemvanoranje5724
@willemvanoranje5724 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pqeVoq2Hvdi-n2g.html&ab_channel=ThePresentPast
@boass
@boass Жыл бұрын
@@fkilsdonk Exactly, Europeans were already very skilled sailors and trade between the Mediterranean was not rare in any sense… The fact these skills were then translated for travel around Africa or to the New World was not revolutionary, just new…
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 Жыл бұрын
@@pierzing.glint1sh76 that’s a lie, how can poor Europe cut off richer Ottoman Empire? They chose the African route, because the ottomans were powerful and they were not allowing the Europeans to pass through their empire to trade directly with the eastern kingdoms, in fact the ottomans want to be the middlemen... So the economy of Europe became stagnant because of the blockade of their trade route by the ottomans. So in order to survive, they have to opt for the African route
@abzdudy1
@abzdudy1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, us poor farmers were building beautiful castles and gothic cathedrals with no money and no skills and no education or scholars. There was no such thing as the Renaissance and we were living in mud huts on farming fields!! /Sarcasm obviously
@joaopolonia9428
@joaopolonia9428 Жыл бұрын
0:54 "This isn't a history lesson" well at least you warned us... I hope you take all the negative response as constructive criticism, there's not much to had. You are by far my favourite journalist/documentarian in youtube. Your videos are top tier! Glad you corrected some inaccurate information in your video description. Just keep the research/fact checking on the same level as your editing and fight that urge to simplify/dumbify to make the subject more interesting (and inaccurate). And please add sources! Thank you for your work
@elcidioernesto4175
@elcidioernesto4175 Жыл бұрын
Great video man. I love it. Keep up the good work. 🙋🏾‍♂️
@scaryjeff
@scaryjeff Жыл бұрын
I generally like this channel but I really don't understand the motivation behind this video. What is to be gained by deliberately ignoring all context? Thanks to all the brilliant comments that help show what the real story is.
@GrigRP
@GrigRP Жыл бұрын
Which context was ignored?
@MegaKiri11
@MegaKiri11 Жыл бұрын
It's to spark discussion. Without the video you wouldn't see those comments. And if video tried to include all the context, it would be hours long.
@iangrace1570
@iangrace1570 Жыл бұрын
Basically, he made a chauvinistic video on China, and he's attempting (and failing) to make up for that by presenting a story where Europe is the bad guy. Thats where the "guys who look like me" and the beanie come from. He just wants to seem woke.
@DonaldMaila
@DonaldMaila Жыл бұрын
The title of the video is, "How Europe Stole the World", NOT "Why Europe Stole the World"
@electronszinc6270
@electronszinc6270 Жыл бұрын
@@MegaKiri11 i
@danimoreira8704
@danimoreira8704 Жыл бұрын
I've always watched your videos with interests but this one is a complete mistake. It's absolutely biased and yes completely oversimplified, and honestly wrong. You are looking at 15th century events and history using the 21st century perspective - and that is clear when you clearly say that the Portuguese and the Spanish "grabbed a bunch of territory", calling them "white and catholic people VS non white and non catholic" or when you say that the Portuguese depicted the "Brazilian" (that didn't even existed at the time because they were a variety of tribes and chiefdoms - Brazil only became Brazil after the Portuguese colonization) as the "people that kept on cutting trees". You should read and study history better. If you want to look at maps at least get the context of how they were made first, so that you can get the full picture and not just a gimplse of how it looks for a 2022 "woke" guy.
@TheSDKNightmare
@TheSDKNightmare Жыл бұрын
A lot of his videos about foreign countries, especially distant ones, are like this, at least in the sense that they are made from a modern, biased Western-centric point of view (unavoidable to an extent) and are extremely oversimplified. I am saying this on my part with refernece to his videos about Ukraine and as someone who is from Eastern Europe, has studied history, and speaks Russian. The issues he presents are far more complex and obviously you need to make compromises for the sake of time management, but some of the points are just distorted and even naive, and don't properly get into the hows and whys. That in itself isn't necessarily a problem, but I feel like a lot of people in his audience take everything he says way too literally and thus have a completely wrong understanding of the problem when it comes to anything that goes beyond surface-level knowledge. Especially considering this is meant as a channel to supposedly properly educate people on these issues.
@tobbychamberlain4516
@tobbychamberlain4516 Жыл бұрын
you literally took the words out of my mouth! btw I came looking for your comment because some other dude made a video criticizing Johnny. He showed your comment in his video but he wasn’t so harsh on him even though everything you said is true. Judging from the whole channel Vox where he makes some videos, you can already know what his approach will be when narrating history; it’s completely biased and inaccurate.
@renanrocha2625
@renanrocha2625 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. It’s sold in this video like the tribes in the region that later would become Brazil were purely magic, living in harmony. If that was the case Portuguese, Spanish, French, Dutch, none of them would be able to ally themselves to tribes to be able to explore or have support against their enemies.
@mylesnmilestv
@mylesnmilestv Жыл бұрын
Great work! I really love your channel!!
@parthasart
@parthasart Жыл бұрын
Very Nicely explained
@Akselxela1520
@Akselxela1520 Жыл бұрын
Europe wasn’t just a group of “miserable farmers” like you keep describing it. Medieval Europe had a rich culture with art, literature and architecture, especially during the 15th century, you forgot to mention the Italian renaissance, the Florence cathedral dome that was made during this time (not bad for a group of farmers), the Venetian trade with the east (and Marco Polo), the beginning of the Dutch renaissance and all of this was before Columbus got to America. Just because they didn’t have potatoes or black pepper that doesn’t mean they were Neanderthals, you know? As for the “miserable farmers” they existed in every place on earth not just Europe, do you believe that in the Chinese Empire they were all rich nobles? I was interested in the subject of this video but all the inaccuracies and your attitude made it unwatchable (looking down on medieval people just because they didn’t know there was America between Europe and Asia and calling it “mansplaining” is ridiculous btw)
@Akselxela1520
@Akselxela1520 Жыл бұрын
I thought that a person with all these old maps would know better 🤷‍♂️ but apparently they were just for show
@vivar5318
@vivar5318 Жыл бұрын
He's a butthurt anti-White
@rostantyo
@rostantyo Жыл бұрын
Of course, it's just a joke..
@ronanmurphy9426
@ronanmurphy9426 Жыл бұрын
The most research intensive and prestigious universities in Europe, like Oxford and Cambridge, were established in the Middle Ages.
@StiofanGaillimh
@StiofanGaillimh Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@DeadlyLazer
@DeadlyLazer Жыл бұрын
I can totally imagine Johnny having a drawer full of world maps from every era
@HoangNguyenHP
@HoangNguyenHP Жыл бұрын
more like a whole basement full of them. One drawer is definitely not enough for Johnny
@lastchang1061
@lastchang1061 Жыл бұрын
allah hu akbar earth is flat
@AslanAlmukhambetov
@AslanAlmukhambetov Жыл бұрын
I bet he also has a separate folder on his drive with all those maps scanned, so he can animate them in After Effects :D
@derrekvanee4567
@derrekvanee4567 Жыл бұрын
And a script that says "LDS will whack me if I don't say 'like' at every point with changing camera in my videos". That said I love Johnny
@derrekvanee4567
@derrekvanee4567 Жыл бұрын
@@lastchang1061 Allah ahckbar! Dirka dirka! Muhammad jihad! Jihad jihad! Dirka dirka Muhammad jihad! Dirka dirka?
@shikhameshram3713
@shikhameshram3713 Жыл бұрын
Eagerly waiting for the next part of the series
@IrvinRups
@IrvinRups Жыл бұрын
Love the simplicity of your vids. Respect from Zimbabwe
@donflavio7477
@donflavio7477 Жыл бұрын
Johnny my friend, cool video, but I must disagree in one part. Christopher Columbus sailed from Spain very much aware, and having orders in hand, to take possession of newly discovered lands, to be its governor and viceroy. With this idea in mind he arrived into the Caribbean islands. It is not like he was looking just for trade and then had a change of heart. These prerogatives and orders are contained within the Capitulaciones de Santa Fe, a document subscribe by the Spanish Crown before the first journey, on April 1492. Regards
@Faroschannel33
@Faroschannel33 Жыл бұрын
but his target was asia
@johnnyharris
@johnnyharris Жыл бұрын
Totally true. I dramatized the Columbus “realization” as a device/symbol to hint toward this broader paradigm shift away from trade and toward a full imperial project.
@frankie5373
@frankie5373 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyharris Bad faith.
@marsco1758
@marsco1758 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyharris but the motivation for imperialism, was trade and religion so there was no paradigm shift whatsoever considering imperialism had been a thing for 1000s of years already.
@Racko.
@Racko. Жыл бұрын
@@frankie5373 At least he admitted to his mistake, and learnt from it, not everyone can be 100% perfect
@pumpkineater0076
@pumpkineater0076 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand this video and the agenda you are pushing with it. At the beginning of the video, you portray Europe as unsophisticated and dirt poor and multiple empires of the east as thriving and ahead of their time. Europe at the time wasn’t an unruly pot of smaller kingdoms and fiefdoms but rather a complex social structure that operated through allegiances and family ties. While the lower casts of society undisputedly had a shitty life as they were in a sense almost slaves(Note the german term "Leibeigene), the upper and middle classes were doing great. The first European university was founded in 1088 in Bologna, and city-states like Venice and Genua or trading guilds like the Hanseatic league were incredibly rich from trade with foreign countries. You portray the fact that the ottoman empire blocked Christian trade from the east (Wich already is a simplification of a complex situation) as if it was caused by the Catholics not being NICE to the Muslims. Bro the ottoman empire had just obliterated the Christian byzantine empire in the centuries prior and took the second most important Christian city, Constantinople, and turned the most important Christian church the Hagia Sophia into a mosque. Did you expect that Christians and Muslims were on great terms after that? And the way you keep emphasizing that Europeans were just peasants and poor is so weird to me. In the time frame, your video is set European lords and kings built some of the most breathtaking castles and palaces like the castle Frýdlant or the Cathedral Church of Saint Peter in Exeter (The heyday of Gothic architecture). And I do think, at least to a certain degree, that Europe’s expansion was most likely driven by greed and the prospect of greater riches, but so was the expansion of every other empire. Why do you only emphasize that fact with Europe and not other empires of the time like the Ottomans and their slave markets or the Mughal empire, who in their conquest of India killed thousands of Hindus (Which by the way was possibly the largest genocide in Human History)? Ps: Not to hate or anything I just think it is a little problematic to make a video series about a very complex historical situation that evolved over centuries and still holds great relevancy today, without consulting Historians and experts on the matter (As he states himself he only holds an “MA in international peace and conflict resolution from American University”)While he never frames himself as an authority on history, and considering that he has made good and well-researched videos on different topics before it would be easy for the 2.87 million subscribers to again belief the things he packs so nicely into an easily digestible format in this video, while in actuality he either pushes a political agenda or is just ill-informed. At least the ill-informed problem could have been solved by consulting somebody who actually knows what they are talking about. By the way sorry if this comment isn't an easy read, as I am not a native English speaker.
@HAL_NOVEMILA
@HAL_NOVEMILA Жыл бұрын
Yeah it does not even mentions the "tiny itty bitty" fact that the Ottomans would often get their slaves from the Moorish incursions on the European coastlines... That probably had something to do as to why not many in Europe were inclined to trade with them
@frankie5373
@frankie5373 Жыл бұрын
I understand it. Isn't it clear? He worked for the World Economic Forum, don't forget that. Elites have an agenda to rewrite and delete White history.
@pumpkineater0076
@pumpkineater0076 Жыл бұрын
@@HAL_NOVEMILA True. The ottomans would enslave countless people all across the Mediterranean coastline and many of them European. The ottoman empire simply was the enemy at the time. Not just because of religious contention but out of rivalry. There is no space for everybody. So you either eat or get eaten.
@lynxcato3327
@lynxcato3327 Жыл бұрын
Columbus's voyages occured towards the end of the Gothic period that produced some of the most beautiful buildings ever built. Columbus's times were the beginning of the Renaissance.
@terr1592
@terr1592 Жыл бұрын
Also that the Iberians had just finished the reconquista after fighting tooth and nail for their independent existence, after the muslims occupied and subjugated the entire peninsula, reducing the christians to second class citizens
@a.constantin
@a.constantin Жыл бұрын
looking forward for the next episodes :)
@DanuProductions
@DanuProductions Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but there's a lot of misinformation in this video. For example Europe was not "a group of miserable famers", firstly like everywhere in the world it wasn't a massive homogeneous group of people. And some parts of it were extremely rich, such as the Italian citiy states. Furthermore The Europeans had been trading with the east for years, they didn't bump into the Ottoman Empire the Ottoman Empire took over the routes they travelled and imposed high taxes to use the routes. Columbus, knew he was in new land, but thought he was off the coast of Asia (and it's worth mentioning he was brought back to Europe in chains, and died in prison)
@DanuProductions
@DanuProductions Жыл бұрын
@@Solid_Snake88 well, banking as a concept probably first started in the middle East. And well "we" weren't all rich, far from it. That's the point I'm making. Europe wasn't one group, there were classes of insanely rich and insanely poor, like nearly everywhere. But granted Europeans probably weren't "evil" but they certainly weren't good
@utkarshpatil7356
@utkarshpatil7356 Жыл бұрын
@@Solid_Snake88 lol triggered europian
@matpk
@matpk Жыл бұрын
But Chi Na is worse. They are doing this horrible things today while European done it thousands years ago
@fwd5614
@fwd5614 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, from a historical point of view this video is pretty bad
@gaminglichgamer4035
@gaminglichgamer4035 Жыл бұрын
@@matpk Everyone with power today is doing what the Europeans did a century ago. The US and China are both abusing people (granted one of them destroys entire countries on a normal Tuesday and the other has so far been propping up other countries) and basically doing modern day imperialism.
@ElectroIsMyReligion
@ElectroIsMyReligion Жыл бұрын
Referring to Europe as a whole is a little misleading and vague in this context. A bit lazy if you ask me. _“How _*_Western_*_ Europe Stole the world”_ - would’ve been a more accurate and fitting title in this regard - especially when referring to the seafaring, costal nations bordering the Atlantic - of obvious geographical reasons. We’re talking about one region of Europe, not the entire continent. Central+ most of Eastern Europe had little to no colonial endeavors nor history of African slavery. Talking about generalizing for sake of clickbait.
@GabGotti3
@GabGotti3 Жыл бұрын
Very true. But Eastern Europe is garbage and more racist than anyone. Portugal is a great place, one of the most accepting and liberal countries on earth.
@maciekgaa5215
@maciekgaa5215 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, think about Czechia, Hungary or Poland
@matpk
@matpk Жыл бұрын
But Chi Na is worse. They are doing this horrible things today while European done it thousands years ago
@Kaizen917
@Kaizen917 Жыл бұрын
@@maciekgaa5215 I was once having this talk with a Nigerian dude that was generally falling just short of the opinion that every white european should be hanged for fhe colonialist period. With my country, Bulgaria,itself under Ottoman occupation at the time, I was trying to explain this is too simplistic and innacurate. What I found unsettling is that he doubled down on it lumping all these countries together anyways because he sees them joining the EU as a sign they also supported this past (and the EU just doing the same to the world now). Some really messed up views exist out there, I guess. Depending on who has the stage.
@vitkrivan9380
@vitkrivan9380 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and thats even the reason why Central Europeans dont get things like BLM and so on. Since they never in the history had oppressed anyone and they aren't responsible for how white people treated slaves from Africa. Like, how are Austrians or Czechs linked to slavery? When actually regular people were slaves to the ruling elites.
@egdapo
@egdapo Ай бұрын
I just wanna thank you Johnny Harris for making topics like this SUPER-INTERESTING to watch/learn about. I'm almost always hooked from beginning to end on JH video... even during sponsor reads!
@big_met_fan8792
@big_met_fan8792 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so good at rolling maps
@commonwealthrealm
@commonwealthrealm Жыл бұрын
Adjustment: Western Europe. The Eastern part of the continent was so busy in a battle royale for continental land that one participant still thinks it is going on...
@amcmillion3
@amcmillion3 Жыл бұрын
The fact that one participant still thinks it is going on proves that it is.
@Student0Toucher
@Student0Toucher Жыл бұрын
Disagree lol Russia definitely colonized East Asia
@keanureevesspeed7602
@keanureevesspeed7602 Жыл бұрын
@@Student0Toucher lol you know ruzzia is noto the only country in Eastern Europe right ¿ Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Slovakia…
@bradavon
@bradavon Жыл бұрын
@@keanureevesspeed7602 Lithuina and Latvia are in Northern Europe, not Eastern.
@deanbarnett8538
@deanbarnett8538 Жыл бұрын
@@keanureevesspeed7602 Russia is the only troublemaker.
@alvaroserra6259
@alvaroserra6259 Жыл бұрын
8:24 The first island Christopher Columbus arrived in 1492 wasn't Cuba. It was actually "La Española", the current Dominican Republic and Haití.
@leonvla
@leonvla Жыл бұрын
John was not talking about the first island that Columbus went to, he was talking about Cuba in general. Columbus actually "visited" on his first voyage.
@JoaoPedroPT696
@JoaoPedroPT696 Жыл бұрын
It gives a general idea. I guess every American knows about Cuba but try to ask anyone what is the name of the island where Haiti and the Dominican Republic are.
@GabGotti3
@GabGotti3 Жыл бұрын
Johnny got ALOT of things wrong this video. ALOT. The Ottomans were also Europeans (Islamic yes, but still many Christians). This has been one of the most disappointing videos I’ve seen from him.
@Tuncapoo
@Tuncapoo Жыл бұрын
@@GabGotti3 he did say at the start that this was going to be him generalising, so obviously that means that there won't be details
@mcgeogeo
@mcgeogeo Жыл бұрын
he didn't say it was the first island
@Campaigner82
@Campaigner82 Жыл бұрын
Great work! You’re now my favorite KZfaq journalist
@alonsothoth
@alonsothoth 9 ай бұрын
To sum up this video, is Johnny unwrapping map sheets on a table in cool style with "no one making any resistance".
@finlaywalker9659
@finlaywalker9659 Жыл бұрын
I want to pretext this short comment by stating that I appreciate both the educational potential and holistic approach to the project you’re undertaking here Johnny. However, I do feel the way you present the world in 1450 is rather black and white. I understand time constraints and that there is only so much you can do within the bounds of this video but as an archaeologist and historian I feel that the characterisation of Europe as excessively poor and the ‘oriental despots’ as excessively wealthy botches the relative parity in wealth between almost all peasants in major eurasian states. This narrative of ‘Europe Aggressors, Everybody Victims’ presents to me a past in which the rest of the world becomes a passive backdrop to European colonialism. That being said I’m a massive fan of your work and absolutely love you’re style of video - much love x (edit) Going forward I think it would be constructive to perhaps add a short reading list in the description for those who want to peruse the topic further. For example this video could recommend Guns, Germs and Steel, The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers or for a lighter read The New Silk Roads.
@willkimball7677
@willkimball7677 Жыл бұрын
Also didn’t like the Vikings and Pirates of Scandinavia set foot on the “new world”. To edit when Cristopher Columbus set foot on Cuba he didn’t start trading he raided and pillaged the land
@johnnyharris
@johnnyharris Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the civil and constructive dissent on the framing here. An important point of context and critique. Totally well received as I continue to plot the course of making digestible and accessible history with a few main takeaways in mind.
@andrewofaiur
@andrewofaiur Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyharris Sensible response to a sensible critique. This gives me hope.
@darkstarry8879
@darkstarry8879 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. It's a very interesting video and I enjoyed watching it and seeing the old maps, but I want to add two more points. First, the video makes it seem like claiming territory was a novel thing for European colonial empires (showing it here as Columbus's lightbulb moment), when claiming territory had formed the basis of all prior empires. Whether it was Spain and Portugal, or any other Eurasian empire that came to America first, like the Ming or Ottomans, there's no reason not to assume that they wouldn't have claimed territory all the same, as empires had done throughout history. Second, of all the terrible things Europeans did in their colonies, the thing that arguably did the most damage in the Americas, the spread of disease, was mostly unintentional and would have likely caused just as much damage regardless of which Eurasian civilization first began sustained contact with the Americas as long as it was pre-vaccination. No matter how well meaning that civilization may have been. The video refers to disease as part of the massacres. But a massacre assumes intentional spread, while the diseases mostly spread as diseases normally do without intent (although intentional spread may have occurred in certain instances).
@BBKMotoLove221
@BBKMotoLove221 Жыл бұрын
@@darkstarry8879 well, the British did exactly the same. Search about Bengal famine and the response from British leaders when people of India asked for food which were cultivated in their own land. That was a massacre.
@leodevardinho6555
@leodevardinho6555 Жыл бұрын
This whole channel is a clear example of why good animations have nothing to do with proper content and true information
@willemvanoranje5724
@willemvanoranje5724 Жыл бұрын
yeah he leaves out a lot lol. He ain't a historain after all.
@MrYelly
@MrYelly Жыл бұрын
Video looks neat and clean, but his brain is smooth as butter.
@frankie5373
@frankie5373 Жыл бұрын
Ya I like some of his videos but his anti white agenda is so obvious.
@nielsbourgeois9800
@nielsbourgeois9800 Жыл бұрын
Video’s like this showcase why the dislike button is dearly missed.
@betweenthepanels9145
@betweenthepanels9145 Жыл бұрын
@@willemvanoranje5724 then he shouldn’t talk history like he knows shit
@akshatjain8052
@akshatjain8052 Жыл бұрын
It seems like you have found the perfect topic for you, the time when world maps were actually drawn out! Love your content. Can you tell us the books that you referred for this topic
@TPSans-souci33
@TPSans-souci33 Жыл бұрын
Hey Johnny, where do u find or get access to such kinds of maps? I can look over maps for hours, & I’m not ashamed to say… I kinda like to! Lol, I’m genuinely curious!
@berese5826
@berese5826 Жыл бұрын
9:00 claiming land for the Kingdom of Spain was not Columbus' idea after he found new Territories... It was already stipulated in his contract before he left Spain. _(As well as receiving the title of "vice king" of all the conquered territories)_ he was pretty stubborn and it took months to negotiate the contract.
@johnnyharris
@johnnyharris Жыл бұрын
Yes he didn’t literally say “change of plans boys” etc. This little present anecdote was meant to symbolize the fact that the mission set out for different purposes and was then pivoted.
@chrissakellaridis9417
@chrissakellaridis9417 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyharris But the mission was not set out for different purposes. It was meant to open trade routes AND make the locals convert to christianity under the protection of the Catholic Rulers (Isabel and Ferdinand of Castille and Aragon respectively), thus making it a kind of a colony in today's terms.
@gagageiro
@gagageiro Жыл бұрын
@@chrissakellaridis9417 it's a Johnny Harris Video what do you expect? It's beautiful and overly dramatic and a bit too shallow ...
@josef_belz519
@josef_belz519 Жыл бұрын
Just to make something clear, while Virrey was indeed the title, it's meaning would be closer to 'Governor of Area' rather than anything royal.
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
@@franciscobarragancastro4348 please , super interesting
@ramonvizcarra8335
@ramonvizcarra8335 Жыл бұрын
Ok so I am really into history and there are some pointers right of the bat that you missed out on or didn't explained correctly. First off, everyone and every country in Europe weren't just poor people. In Italy there were a los of wealthy individuals who controlled most of the banks in Europe at the time, and European countries did made a lot of trade with Africa, the Middle East and all the way to India. One of the main factors that pushed Europe to find an alternate route to India was the fall of Constantinople to the ottoman empire on May 29th 1453, which was the fall of the byzantine empire
@rezakarampour6286
@rezakarampour6286 Жыл бұрын
Search . ' America . A century of coup , revolution & invasion '
@76456
@76456 Жыл бұрын
I saw a lot of comments saying to not generalize europe, completely ignorin the situation in Iberia. Being Portugal the starter at 1387, whit war, famine, destruction of infraestructure. In 1415 Portugal conquered Ceuta, a city in north western africa were a trade route passed, also a good place for farming. Under Lusitaniam control the muslims changed the trade routes, and constantly attacked the city. Leaving no room to farm out side of the walls. Conquering the source of importamt materials was important. Otoman empire wasnt the only midle east empire there were also the Mamlucks. The statmente "muhh, europe went to india because Constantinopla fell" is wrong. Countries have their own expansional ideas, the blockade simply rose the cost of spices. And later a change of distributer of goods instead of Venice was Lisbon and by last the other european nations goals of conquest and also to keep up whit the rivalerys
@AGE_tv
@AGE_tv Жыл бұрын
Waiting for new Parts on this topic.
@koyomi558
@koyomi558 Жыл бұрын
Could anyone explain that why is there a "zig-zag" trade route between India and Africa at 6:40 ? I mean, if it's real, there must be some reason right ?
@TravisSelassieSimbawafedha
@TravisSelassieSimbawafedha Жыл бұрын
" poor miserable farmers" ? Really that is the best lead in punch line you could get from your writers.
@willkimball7677
@willkimball7677 Жыл бұрын
Also he never mentioned that some of those farmers were serfs of their lords. Also how the land was not very fertile to plant much includingthat right around the 14,000s there was a hot period where they were in a drought.
@AnonymousReader-er4eg
@AnonymousReader-er4eg Жыл бұрын
@@willkimball7677 true. Europe didn't get to experience the same multiplier effect that China and India did until the industrial revolution came along and changed everything.
@newdays0
@newdays0 Жыл бұрын
And here you are commenting boosting the algo. Seems like clever writing.
@frederiknielsen5496
@frederiknielsen5496 Жыл бұрын
Cuba may have had few armies, but this is not the case for the rest of the Americas and any such claim seriously undermines both the arguments as well as the credit native civilisations deserve. Spain didn't take over the Americas because they just 'claimed' the land (outside the Caribbean), rather the Spanish united against the incumbent Empires (Incas and Aztecs) who had massive governmental structures to actually take over and use for state-building. They did this not through military superiority, but through unity with natives opposed to the Aztec and Inca Empires. Brazil as a state had no predecessor, and this is why Brazil took a lot longer to actually become a united dominion which Portugal could administer (and hence the 'primitive' natives on the map you pointed out). Taking over and claiming land which does not already have a functioning administration is a nightmare, and the Spanish did not have the resources to do this, at least not in the space of time in which they established their empires. It was much easier to cut the snake's head off and take over the body. Claiming the Americas were just 'unclaimed land' is a seriously poor understanding of pre-Columbian America; the Spanish certainly did not see it as such. It was the case only in the Caribbean, Brazil and the parts of North America the England would colonise, which I guess shapes a lot of our preconceptions about the Columbian age. For Spain it was very different, their colonial efforts were much more shaped by military conflict and opportunism (the kings in Spain did not expect Cortes or Pizaru to succeed in defeating two empires, they didn't even know they were trying!)
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
Similar how America funds rebel forces when they want to overthrow a government. Same playbook
@frederiknielsen5496
@frederiknielsen5496 Жыл бұрын
​@@analyticalmindset It is by far and away the easiest way to conquer a country, yes! Requires far less resources
@nicolasjimenezgarcia9560
@nicolasjimenezgarcia9560 Жыл бұрын
Great comment! I think this video lacked so much depth on the process of actually taking over the American territories.
@tomh2121
@tomh2121 Жыл бұрын
It was this governmental structure that has formed Mexican culture, especially when you compare people from the North to the South of the country. Kraut did a fantastic KZfaq series on the topic and it's well worth a watch if you haven't already.
@frederiknielsen5496
@frederiknielsen5496 Жыл бұрын
@@tomh2121 Thanks for the great suggestion, I will be sure to check it out! As far as I know yes, it had a huge impact, and it's sad to see people ignore the Aztecs and Incas because we're too used to seeing things from a US/Canadian/British perspective.
@suhilq
@suhilq Жыл бұрын
Next episode please. I love your videos, but the suspense for the next episode in this series is killing me 😁
@samdottori
@samdottori 5 ай бұрын
Despite the initial inaccuracies, the video is worth watching and very well made
@politi1019
@politi1019 Жыл бұрын
Dude is literally just gonna ignore the reconqesta and the conquest of Constantinople as context. You said this wasn’t a history video, but you can’t just cherry pick events to suit your false narrative. Editing is nice and pretty, but it can’t make up for the terrible writing of this essay. History matters and your generalization only help perpetuate people’s ignorance of it.
@frankie5373
@frankie5373 Жыл бұрын
well said
@MarioL3173
@MarioL3173 Жыл бұрын
hear hear
@_jame7928
@_jame7928 Жыл бұрын
why is Constantinople important here? He talked about the Ottomans blocking the Iberians anyway.
@duckey6806
@duckey6806 Жыл бұрын
@@_jame7928 Constantinople is important because he acts like the Ottomans did nothing to the Catholics which is a lie. Constantinople was the 2nd most important Christian city right before Jerusalem and the Ottomans killed the Byzantine empire and changed Sofia a church into a Mosque.
@U8mymicro
@U8mymicro Жыл бұрын
@@_jame7928 The muslims had stunning victories in the east over the Zoroastrians(persia is now called iraq and iran) and the romans(byzantines) they would then conquer (imperialize) all of the conquered territories including spain. The Christians pushed back the muslims in spain but lost in greece. Spain in turn became very theocratical(Our religion is good) because of this. When the golden city fell the trade routes for spices and silk changed forcing the very antimuslim spanish to look for new ways to find trade with the east. In this process they found a lot of land to conquer, Notice how both cultures are doing this. Constantinople(Istanbul) is so extremely important to history.
@01Ichirei10
@01Ichirei10 Жыл бұрын
Since you wholeheartedly already acknowledged and accepted that this video made huge mistakes, i believe you should make a follow-up video addressing and creating a more informative on the mistakes. It should be a responsibility for educational/history KZfaqr for their audience..
@ErdTirdMans
@ErdTirdMans Жыл бұрын
He should take this down and completely redo it. Leaving it up just gives the algorithm a chance to misinform people and build even more mistrust of liberal narratives in media
@dom2428
@dom2428 Жыл бұрын
honestly he might as well just redo it at this point lmao
@markdowding5737
@markdowding5737 Жыл бұрын
Where did admit that he made mistakes on this video? Haven't found anything on that on his social networks.
@01Ichirei10
@01Ichirei10 Жыл бұрын
@@markdowding5737 there was another video from another history KZfaqr who pointed out all the mistakes in this video. Johnny posted on that video acknowledging the mistake and that it was a wake-up call for him or something.
@SmackMyDerf
@SmackMyDerf Жыл бұрын
@@01Ichirei10 looks like he has since deleted that comment. I don't think he's going to change or reconsider his stance, I really hope he does.
@itsmariel5084
@itsmariel5084 Жыл бұрын
Finally, Jonny is answering my childhood question.
@Tarquin2718
@Tarquin2718 Жыл бұрын
I love your work so much!!! ❤
@pietersmith9745
@pietersmith9745 Жыл бұрын
I love Johnny, but his commitment to virtue signaling is overpowering his commitment as an accurate story teller.
@regards7229
@regards7229 Жыл бұрын
So sad and true
@Wesstuntube
@Wesstuntube Жыл бұрын
I loved Johnny for some time. Lately though, he seems like he doesn't even care what the truth is - only what he hopes to achieve. The ends justify the means?
@cooltrades7469
@cooltrades7469 Жыл бұрын
It's story, aka fiction. Historically it's complete B.S.
@euLienee
@euLienee Жыл бұрын
@@Wesstuntube It's starting to feel that he cares more about story telling (and all of his cool maps) and not about story itself.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim Жыл бұрын
Since when is [pop-]History a natural science, anyways?
@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 Жыл бұрын
I think why some European countries took over a lot of the world was because of the constant wars that happened within Europe with no one country dominating all the others. So there was a constant fear of losing out strategic balance of power once certain countries started getting more powerful from conquering other places outside Europe.
@XXXTENTAClON227
@XXXTENTAClON227 Жыл бұрын
One island in particular was especially paranoid…
@baileyyule2333
@baileyyule2333 Жыл бұрын
@@XXXTENTAClON227 lol
@Samelsey
@Samelsey Жыл бұрын
These constant wars also had as an effect that european warfare was developing far faster than the rest of the world, which only further expanded the reach and speed of colonization.
@jfkst1
@jfkst1 Жыл бұрын
Among other things. Guns, germs, and steel explains the advantages Europeans held in dominating the world.
@JV-km9xk
@JV-km9xk Жыл бұрын
it's advantageous to have more land and resources. so even if there was no war, you take stuff like entire continents if you can. but it's inhumane with modern standards.
@vali6739
@vali6739 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content love your work Maby if you have time look into the Dardans/illirans
@PlayNowWorkLater
@PlayNowWorkLater Ай бұрын
I love your map collection and that amazing drawer.
@fettuccinealfredo1
@fettuccinealfredo1 Жыл бұрын
I would disagree with your statement that Europe was poor and eastern empires were rich. In both the east and west there tended to be a wealthy class supported by poor peasants/farmers. GDP per capita stayed relatively the same across geographies until the industrial revolution. Economic historians use GDP per capita to compare quality of life since it is pretty good proxy for health care and education throughout history and is much easier to measure. There is actually evidence that GDP per capita was increasing over the 1400's in Italy but there isn't consensus on this.
@marsco1758
@marsco1758 Жыл бұрын
@GiriRaj totally dude
@pradyumnashaoo2332
@pradyumnashaoo2332 Жыл бұрын
Cope Europe was poor compared to eastern empires
@marsco1758
@marsco1758 Жыл бұрын
@@pradyumnashaoo2332 Cope 2022
@pasikuisma8505
@pasikuisma8505 Жыл бұрын
@GiriRaj I think you forget Roman empire & Greek city states & Carthago &...
@roro4787
@roro4787 Жыл бұрын
Nope East was far more developed, we had mathematicians, surgeons, etc etc...we had amazing literature, hygiene etc.
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 Жыл бұрын
_The world we live in today was sketched on paper by European men. Men who looked like me._ This should tell you everything you need to know about Johnny's motivations. Nice to see a Johnny Harris video finally getting the backlash it deserves.
@mohamedabdukadir3271
@mohamedabdukadir3271 Жыл бұрын
But that is very true statement, almost all borders in our world currently were created by whiteman.
@user-fg8it6kp3e
@user-fg8it6kp3e Жыл бұрын
one thing is for sure, they certainty didn't look like a bearded man from utah. His ancestors were probably farmers as well so he needs to stop the self-hate.
@jacques.cousteau
@jacques.cousteau Жыл бұрын
Self-hating white liberals strike again... good this is people are starting to open their eyes
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 Жыл бұрын
@@user-fg8it6kp3e _so he needs to stop the self-hate._ Don't hold your breath. The guy is an ex-Mormon who is really trying hard to overcompensate.
@carlitoxb110
@carlitoxb110 Жыл бұрын
8:29 a little mistake, the first island colon found wasn’t Cuba, it was in fact an island of what we call today the Bahamas then he found the island “la española” which is the island where the countries of Haiti and República Dominicana are located today
@jjlat2683
@jjlat2683 8 ай бұрын
Love your videos man!
@rabbanynarukaya8342
@rabbanynarukaya8342 Жыл бұрын
As a nerd of Google Maps, where I spent significant amount of time just scrolling through maps and looking at specific countries’ street-level views, it’s just really exciting to see Maps from a very historical perspective, with how it tells us stories about it just by a simple look. Can’t wait for the next episodes !
@Thorfinn47.
@Thorfinn47. Жыл бұрын
I am a chad of Google maps
@lastchang1061
@lastchang1061 Жыл бұрын
allah hu akbar earth is flat.
@eljondeocampo4619
@eljondeocampo4619 Жыл бұрын
Man, I feel you
@TooLittleInfo
@TooLittleInfo Жыл бұрын
Looking at google maps is literally one of my favourite hobbies
@witchowski
@witchowski Жыл бұрын
GeoGuessr is the perfect game for you then 😆
@a.16.g
@a.16.g Жыл бұрын
Johnny Harris be like: I’ll heart a dozen positive comments to drown out the the comments criticising my video.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see many people correcting the many errors in this video. On the other hand, nice maps!
@gignmotion
@gignmotion Жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling the truth. I learned this when I was a student at UC Berkeley, this was a required class for everyone studying at UC Berkeley known as the American Culture requirement. This is also taught at every Community Colleges, Public Schools and UC System ie. UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara, along with all the CSU’s. Great job. Mr. Harris. Keep up the good work, very informative. 👍🏽
@dirtylevel
@dirtylevel Жыл бұрын
The lines that split the world is called the "Treaty of Tordesillas". It was actually to divide the world between the East and the West, whereas the Spain would get the West and Portugal would get the East. Essentially, it was a gamble and a distraction on behalf of Portugal to keep Spain out of the Eastern trade. Also, the "East" side was smaller than the initial draft. The portuguese bartered to draw a line further outwards because they suspected that there was land somewhere further in between (Brazil).
@maximilianbeyer5642
@maximilianbeyer5642 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was the original line in the Americas. The second one is the treaty of Zaragoza. They basically just ignored the lines for Brazil and the Philippines though
@NandiCollector
@NandiCollector Жыл бұрын
*I have a Portuguese coin that commemorates the "Treaty of Tordesillas."*
@jeffpen4622
@jeffpen4622 Жыл бұрын
Alright, you talk two straight video about China and the UE, now can we have a video about why the US is so damn big?
@markdowding5737
@markdowding5737 Жыл бұрын
I never liked it when people who know very little of Europe and its history almost always fall on the same old fallacy of trying to put Europeans into one single homogenous group trying to pursue the same interests. This is extremely inaccurate and misleading. Some countries had a bigger focus on trade rather than conquest. Europeans were also mostly divided between Catholicism, Protestantism, and Orthodox and often fought over that. Several European countries did not seek on creating colonies (Sweden, Poland) or their policies regarding that issue changed over time (Germany). Those were different times and people lived by different moral codes, and conquering and spreading your culture and religion was not only common but the norm. Before the Spanish and Portuguese set foot in America, the Mongols had already raided and conquered most of eastern Europe, the ottomans had done the same with the Balkans, and the Arabs with the Iberian Peninsula. Also, those tribes in Africa and America were already slaughtering and conquering each other way before any European ever come in contact with them (often in a quite brutal fashion). Do you think the Azteca and Inca empires were formed and maintained through diplomacy and goodwill? What set Europeans apart was that they had better weapons and diseases. I always liked Johnny Harris, but this time I'm a bit disappointed with him.
@adityarajan592
@adityarajan592 Жыл бұрын
Well Sweden and Poland are deep inland and would have had immense logistical difficulty creating colonies. Europeans were not only set apart by having better weapons and diseases, this would have set them apart from Aztecs yes but the Chinese, Islamic and Indian civilizations were at technological and economic parity with europe initially, Geography and ideology played major roles. The Chinese or Indians did not have a world-domination oriented ideology like Christianity which was one of the foundations of western civilization, a black and white conception of right and wrong which could easily be weaponised into "Europe is right the rest are wrong", the belief that other religions are false and need to be removed.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 Жыл бұрын
Many Europeans fled to the americas in order to escape religious prosecutions. Many didn’t want or have slaves.
@luisanonprestes5991
@luisanonprestes5991 Жыл бұрын
@@adityarajan592 Bullseye!
@markdowding5737
@markdowding5737 Жыл бұрын
@@adityarajan592 I did not mention China and India because the video does not mention those territories, their circumstances are indeed very different. Christianity doesn't have a world-domination ideology. I'm not sure what you based that comment on. When the British conquered India and several other territories they did it to enrich themselves, to get personal glory, and for the king. Religion had very little to do with it. This was slightly different from the Portuguese and this partially led to their expulsion from Japanese ports (again Europeans are different amongst themselves). Chinese people did view themselves as superior and other people as barbarians unworthy of proper consideration. They also practiced expansionism and conquest as you can see in the cases of Xinjiang and Tibet. And they brutally suppressed and sought to remove Christianity within China, even amongst people who had freely converted to it.
@ZEtruckipu
@ZEtruckipu Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on that comment mate. I particularly disliked the video of Johnny Harris where he portrayed today's France as the owner of a colonial empire when he was just listing the overseas administrative regions. It really displayed a lack of understanding of what is the world outside of the USA
@Aussie_Truth
@Aussie_Truth Жыл бұрын
Just like to say that it's been awhile since I've come across such an engaging storyteller as yourself. I'm looking forward to many hours of watching your channel. Cheers
@zorrozorro9681
@zorrozorro9681 Жыл бұрын
is all FAKE !! ha ha haaaa
@user-gv2nc1ix9x
@user-gv2nc1ix9x 6 ай бұрын
Europe was far form a poor civilization in the 1300s. By the 1100s Europe was already experiencing its 12th century renaissance. It was already the most influential and important part of the world by that time for the first time after the Roman Empire fell.
@someoneinexistence1939
@someoneinexistence1939 Жыл бұрын
The best KZfaq channel for me ! The quality of Productuon this guy puts up for us to watch for free is just amazing.
@JoeLaFon3
@JoeLaFon3 Жыл бұрын
Yes kiss his ass
@caveatlector1591
@caveatlector1591 Жыл бұрын
Damn, johnny really flexed his maps this time
@carlosain
@carlosain Жыл бұрын
The map of "Spain" is so wrong that I cannot begin to explain it. Either your write "Spain" and include all of Spain, or you write "Castille" if you just want to consider the portion that you mention in the video. On the other hand, the indigenous people of America did have armies, some of them huge, and they indeed had brutal wars between them.
@reinhart114
@reinhart114 Жыл бұрын
Listen to it again. He said, and i quote: "what it was going to known as Spain". Active listening is key.
@carlosain
@carlosain Жыл бұрын
@@reinhart114 but in the map only a region of Spain is called Spain. This is precisely Castille, not Spain.
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
All nations had brutal wars and infighting, but only Europeans spread their problems to every corner of the globe .
@merof227
@merof227 Жыл бұрын
Also to note, Spain and Portugal were Catholic, not Christian.
@arnovanpoucke7813
@arnovanpoucke7813 Жыл бұрын
@@merof227 Catholicism is a branch of Christianity
@Aedar
@Aedar Жыл бұрын
I generally love your videos, really, they usually present all sides without too much bias, but this one is just a mess... First of all, there was trade along the silk road going back to ancient rome at least, but it was cut off when the ottoman empire kept conquering more land from the byzantine empire... Oh and again the "thriving" ottoman empire with silk, also had incredibly high number of slaves, usually taken from conquered land in eastern/southeastern europe... And yes, the europeans did claim the land in the americas, but that was just because they "could". Do you honestly want to tell us that if the ottomans or the chinese got there first they wouldn't do pretty much the same thing? More or less the only reason why european empire did that and not others is that china/india were across the pacific which is obviously harder to cross than atlantic and ottomans couldn't really get out of the Med to go west for obvious reasons...
@mattchensan
@mattchensan Жыл бұрын
The Ottomans and the Chinese had established "styles" of imperialism that were pretty distinct from the European model of imperialism that rose during the 15th century onward and likely would not have happened without the unique economic conditions that were happening in Europe at the time (i.e. the rise of capitalism). It's actually incredibly important to worth noting that it's not about the "European-ness" that lead to the type of colonialism because the colonialism that happened is quite different from what Roman imperialism would've looked like. Portugal, for example, was expanding but didn't really participate in the kind of colonialism that the Spanish eventually did until the Spanish proved its profitability. China had already been doing a kind of imperialism for centuries in the form of straightforward expansionism (see, sinicization for some historical horror) but its mainly known for it's soft power style of imperialism. I.E. China would use its technological, economic, and political power to pressure states into becoming tributary states that would give tribute but China wouldn't necessarily exert the kind of complete control over an area that European countries would for most of the places it had influence over. If you read about Zheng He's voyages, that's essentially would've likely been China's style of imperialism. Essentially, China would force countries to pay a fee in order to join its economic and political sphere of influence. The Ottoman empire's model of imperialism would've been closer to China's but with significantly more control. The Ottoman empire was famous for its style of informal imperialism in the form of suzerainty where the the central government via diplomacy and/or military might would exert significant control over its vassal states and their decisions. They were autonomous on a day to day, but ultimately any dealings outside of the ottoman empire were handled by the ottoman government. For a long time before the fall of Constantinople, the Byzantine Empire was a Vassal state of the Ottomans, so that might give you an idea of how life under ottoman rule as a puppet state might have looked like. The real key difference is how people and resources are exploited between these models. That is not to say that China or the Ottoman empire haven't done horrible crimes in the name of imperial dominance (China has some pretty horrifying examples all throughout history) but the model in which Europe did it is unique in how they would enslave local populations and/or import slaves to grow huge amounts of cash crops and/or exploit resources in the area. It's not likely that the Ottomans or the Chinese would've entered India like the British did with the East India company and coerce millions of people into growing cash crops like tea, indigo, and poppy to the point where they starved to death. The Ottomans probably would've turned India into a Puppet state where they would be be a lesser part of the empire and enjoy the lions share of the riches it already produced and the Chinese would've pressured India into becoming a tributary state in order to be a part of China's sphere of influence (and by the way, China already did this to parts of India in the past). Another huge reason why it's such a big topic is because its very recent history, it's only a few generations old for many places. Right now we're living in the consequences of colonialism and to answer your question of "if someone could do it, they would" is actually already answered with how former colonial states came to grips with the existing political and economic systems that were put in place. Some governments post independence just went ahead and put themselves on the top power structure and things largely were unchanged for the people at the bottom, one form of slavery for another. It's also extremely important to emphasize specificity because European colonialism is uniquely evil the same way Ottoman expansionism was uniquely evil and Chinese Sinicization was uniquely evil. One of the key ways Europe conquered the Americas was by exploiting political conflicts that were happening between American peoples and states. There are some shit things that the Aztecs and Inca in their quest to expand their empires as well. The important thing is to understand what happened and the ripple effects specifically.
@eolay4411
@eolay4411 Жыл бұрын
To be fair there is theories that the Chineese, Malian's (Africa) and Vikings got to the Americas but none went down the Columbas route.
@DenLim123
@DenLim123 Жыл бұрын
"they usually present all sides without too much bias" I guess you never watched any of his videos, I'd say 70% of his videos are just propaganda promoting the West while bashing on everyone else
@KYOBI4178
@KYOBI4178 Жыл бұрын
@@eolay4411 Thats because they had different reasons. The vikings couldve fought the tribes but lacked the resources. The Chinese had a different reason since they were looking for spices, not expanding the empire
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
"present all sides without too much bias" Sorry, wut? In a video about the US-Mexican War, his title was "how the US stole Mexico". Nothing about that screams presenting all sides. He's always been like this.
@SwagaliousSuperMan
@SwagaliousSuperMan 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where I could purchase the atlas he was showing towards the end of the video??
@pavitarsingh6723
@pavitarsingh6723 10 ай бұрын
Even though the video is inaccurate it still explains a lot in a fun and easy way to newcomers in the topic.
@ash.bl.9289
@ash.bl.9289 Жыл бұрын
I find it kind of funny how the Ottoman Empire is portrayed here. Doesn't he know that the Ottoman Empire "stole" Constantinople and thus blocked Europe from international trade. Without Constantinople, the Ottoman Empire would fare just as badly as the rest of Europe. Thus the poor Ottoman Empire began stealing from wealthy nations
@marsco1758
@marsco1758 Жыл бұрын
Ottomans were stealing free Europeans to enslave them up until there dissolution
@frederiknielsen5496
@frederiknielsen5496 Жыл бұрын
True.
@leoadrianplaza
@leoadrianplaza Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@thunderwplf1078
@thunderwplf1078 Жыл бұрын
True.
@zakariamattu8613
@zakariamattu8613 Жыл бұрын
😂 I wouldn’t say stole but more like conquerored Constantinople also ottomans didn’t block anyone it was that Venice was monopolizing trade with them
@mardok6289
@mardok6289 Жыл бұрын
Man the world wasn't black and white as you are describing it: rich empires in the East poor peasants in Europe. Before Portugal and Spain you missed just more then 500 years in which the Serenissima Republic of Venice was thriving in an international trade with the Ottoman Empire, the North of Africa, the African Horn and Asia bringing in Europe black pepper, salt, silk and all the spices of which India was gifted. Venetians became so rich that were able to raise from the water one of the most magnificent city ever built, letting people of other culture and religious trading and living there (something that wasn't common in that era). So spices were fully known and used in Europe even before the circumnavigation of Africa, but they were extremely expensive and the monarchies of Europe were subjugated to the power of Venice. This to say that one of the principal cause that brought the two monarchies of Portugal and Spain to find a direct way to the east was basically to take the role of Venice and the other Maritime Republics as Genoa and Pisa, anticipating them and becoming the cheaper and faster supplier of spices in Europe. I wanted to clarify this aspect because from your video it seems that Europe and Asia were complete separate and divided world, but this isn't true, indeed Sicily was part of the islamic Abbasid Caliphate in the 1000 and Marco Polo arrived in China from Venice before the 1300.. So you can say, for sure, that Europe was less gifted in resourcers, but that is why since the advent of the Roman Empire trades were a common thing between Europe, Asia and Africa.
@artonio5887
@artonio5887 Жыл бұрын
yea this video series probably won't go into much detail, it's a nice simplified, semi-americanized form of explaining the historical events to people who aren't history nerds. So I wouldn't expect big in depth history lessons from this.
@g1u2y345
@g1u2y345 Жыл бұрын
Trading with the Ottomans for 500 years? Are you sure you're not thinking of the Byzantines/Romans?
@mardok6289
@mardok6289 Жыл бұрын
@@g1u2y345 Generally speaking they have been trading for 500 years with Constantinople, the middle East, and Africa.. But you are true I had to clarify that of course at the beginning the trade was established with the Byzanthine Empire and then it has been carried on with the Ottoman Empire
@Imran7jr
@Imran7jr Жыл бұрын
+1 This was what my history tutor told me back in 10th grade(India) forgot about Venice thing... was confused when John said they were cut-off by Ottomons... I liked world history, geopolitical stuff in general it's nice to see nations interact with each other, even way back in 1200 when flat earthers were the norm... People thought they would get drown into sky, space at the edge it's fun lol...
@victorhugoalvarez8619
@victorhugoalvarez8619 11 ай бұрын
love this channel!
@yassine3978
@yassine3978 Жыл бұрын
Great information
@potatoespotatoes296
@potatoespotatoes296 Жыл бұрын
As a history teacher, I wanted to argue with Johnny when he said - “This isn’t a history lesson. You won’t hear my talk a lot about names and dates…I want to show you how it happened…how Europe took over the entire world” and in the process enriched itself. So it is a history lesson! Exact names and dates discourage many from embracing history and are enforced mostly for testing.
@nagybecsarnai8502
@nagybecsarnai8502 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting take as I love history but constantly get C's because I can't memorise dates nor names. It is sad as it has scared me off from becoming a history teacher but at least I keep my passion for these interesting stories of the past!
@a_d_a_m
@a_d_a_m Жыл бұрын
I think if this way of teaching history had been used when I was a kid in school, I might have actually learned something other than "in 1492, columbus discovered america".
@6000.
@6000. Жыл бұрын
@@cold_servo_pie this comment is either getting ratio’d by someone, or will age well
@rl9056
@rl9056 Жыл бұрын
It's just a preface so when he inevitably gets pushback from the public for having unresearched content or outright incorrect info he can fall bavk and say its not mewnt to be a history lesson.
@potatoespotatoes296
@potatoespotatoes296 Жыл бұрын
@@nagybecsarnai8502 This is day one of history teacher school! I always loved history as well, I got good grades in history class (because I can play school well), but the classes were not my favorite until i majored in history. I hope you know that school did you wrong, not you history class.
@FMattebo7
@FMattebo7 Жыл бұрын
Would love a video on the Ottoman Empire. You often portray the Europeans in a bad way, however the Ottomans were not so kind either in many regards. Would be interesting
@willkimball7677
@willkimball7677 Жыл бұрын
Hell the steppe people where bad too
@Anonymous-yr1hv
@Anonymous-yr1hv Жыл бұрын
But, Ottomans did not butcher other people, erase their culture and push their lands into droughts and poverty!
@z4ck13
@z4ck13 Жыл бұрын
It’s contest of course
@victorias6250
@victorias6250 Жыл бұрын
Been bad people all over the world. All the empires and countries we have today weren’t exactly made on friendly terms. Greed, wars, slavery, genocides were a thing everywhere at some point in history. Even Africans had slaves and slave trades before Europeans came, like Igbo slaves. European history is simply more universally taught and talked about. That’s the only difference.
@riley.freeman1
@riley.freeman1 Жыл бұрын
the Romans and the greeks did it first they even stole North African/Middle eastern science alphabet and cultures and nobody talk about them in negative way
@ignacioa5476
@ignacioa5476 Жыл бұрын
correction 08:13: it is believed that the first island Christopher Columbus reached on his first voyage to America was an island in the Bahamas (called Guanahani). Not Cuba. Look it up on one of your maps. From Guanahani He continued the journey passing through the coasts of Cuba, but he did not stay there, because where he established a first settlement, it was on the island of Hispaniola, current Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Exploring said Island was when he thought he was already in Asia.
@Nosono7
@Nosono7 Жыл бұрын
Jonny, your really a KZfaqr i have learn more than i have ever been your my favorite journalist. I see some of Europeans felt like your channel is a threat to them but its is not but these is how things started.
@HikmaHistory
@HikmaHistory Жыл бұрын
"I mean I'm taking some creative liberty here" - understatement of the year dude! Much of this video is you taking creative liberty. Still a fan of the graphics & visuals ngl
@zahranmohammad3880
@zahranmohammad3880 Жыл бұрын
OMG HIKMA HISTORY ITS YOUUUUUU. we need to get you more likes so you get more recognition.
@michakoniecko853
@michakoniecko853 Жыл бұрын
​@Johnny Harris Great story, but I think you miss something important. The whole concept of "claimed" or "unclaimed" lands is much older than Christopher Columbus. I strongly recommend to do some research about forgotten "northern cursades". History of lands located on the east coast of Baltic Sea is (to some extent) similar to history of the New World. Polabian Slavs or Old Prussians met the same fate as "Indians". From the early Middle Ages only Christian rulers were considered legitimate. That's why Poland's founder Mieszko I was baptised in 966. It was strictly political move. It was also very tricky thing. To avoid getting into german sphere of influence, he choosed to be baptised by Czech bishop and married Christian Czech princess. For Mieszko it was the only way to secure his claims. Inhabitants of Arkona weren't that lucky
@Rotwold
@Rotwold Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wanted to comment about this. And point out that one of the factors as to why the European kingdoms wanted to find unclaimed land, was due to the Catholic church supported any monarch that wanted to crusade and convert the population to Christianity. It was a method to conquer territory with the pope's blessing without calling it a war. This is how colonization got started, discover hedonistic unclaimed territory, promise the church to convert them and incorporate the land to your kingdom. It happened in Europe first.
@GrigRP
@GrigRP Жыл бұрын
If humans live there it is claimed.
@48677
@48677 Жыл бұрын
No their fate wasn't the same. Polabians and Old Prussians were assimilated with the German settlers. Old Prussian was spoken till 17th century. Same thing happened with Finno-Urghic tribes being assimilated with Russians. While Indigenous Siberians can be compared with Native Americans.
@alexdunphy3716
@alexdunphy3716 Жыл бұрын
@@48677 Mayan, Nahuatl (aztec)and Quechua (Incan) are all still spoken today
@lucha6262
@lucha6262 Жыл бұрын
The comment section way more informative than the video, how often does this happen? Thanks Internet
@larissatom6910
@larissatom6910 Жыл бұрын
I wish you had been my middle school history teacher. This is fascinating.
@Iuliusgiovi
@Iuliusgiovi 5 ай бұрын
There's nothing correct about this video, he even admitted on critique video. This video actually makes everyone involved look poor. Go watch kings and generals about the Portuguese on the indian subcontinent, the history was fascinating on both sides and is never at any point so dismissive.
@fapphs
@fapphs Жыл бұрын
Amazing video and stunning visuals, however I do believe this video portrays imperialism as a European invention that started with the conquest of the Americas, when in fact it's been an ongoing human phenomenon for millennia. The Europeans built empires by invading, looting, and colonizing foreign lands, but so did every civilization that came before: the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Persians, Chinese, the Arab Caliphates, as well as Pre-Columbian civilizations like the Aztecs and Incas. Practically no culture or worldview spread throughout the Ancient world without the use of force.
@DavidM-es9qq
@DavidM-es9qq Жыл бұрын
Colonization is not the same as imperialism though. They did invent colonization as we know it today.
@pierzing.glint1sh76
@pierzing.glint1sh76 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. Mercantilism, debt traps(tricking people into signing off loans and land they could never repay) and of-course the industrial slave trade are solely European sins. Not saying people weren't shitty to each other before this but not on this scale.
@xxmemestar69xx82
@xxmemestar69xx82 Жыл бұрын
How exactly does he portray imperialism as a European invention? Talking out of your ass?
@arthurlecomte8950
@arthurlecomte8950 Жыл бұрын
​@@DavidM-es9qq The Phoenicians and the Greeks already practiced colonialism since 1000 BC in the Mediterranean and Black Sea. So it wasn't anything new.
@zombieat
@zombieat Жыл бұрын
@@arthurlecomte8950 how is mercantilism a bad thing? increasing exports and lowering imports is how city states like venice achieved trade surplus and became rich. debt traps? you mean usurrey? that is as old as humanity and has been denounced by middle eastern and european religious leaders and philosophers in the ancient world. so it was never exclusive to europeans. Evidences of slavery predate written records; the practice has existed in many-if not most-cultures in industrial scales way before europeans got involved in it.
@matthewwalzer8397
@matthewwalzer8397 Жыл бұрын
Many parts of this video are extremely oversimplified and lacking in context. However, one part that is simply factually incorrect is your statement on the Portuguese discovering a root to India as a motivation for the voyage of Columbus. Columbus set sail in 1492, whilst the Portuguese didn't find a route to India until Vasco da Gama's voyage in 1498.
@potatonator343
@potatonator343 Жыл бұрын
Not disagreeing with you here, you are correct about Vasco da Gama's Voyage not being the motivation. But Bartolomeu Días, another Portuguese sailor, discovered (for the Portuguese) the cape of good hope in 1488. This discovery is what eventually led to da Gama's voyage.
@minaa.1984
@minaa.1984 Жыл бұрын
@@potatonator343 Ghana had Portuguese settlers as early as 1471
@ugoinsidevideo
@ugoinsidevideo Жыл бұрын
@@potatonator343 And Cape Bojador in 1434 (20 years before Columbus birth).
@sangbeom6245
@sangbeom6245 Жыл бұрын
Magellan also died in the Philippines. Legazpi was another explorer
@prathapreddy1000
@prathapreddy1000 Жыл бұрын
Well da. Coz Portuguese understood what Columbus he discovered was not India.
@lutchen
@lutchen Жыл бұрын
I love that he showed that great chef with the black pepper.
@Bigbongguy
@Bigbongguy Жыл бұрын
I’m 16 and ur my idol bro I love your personal take on historical journalism
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