Agreed. Collin has no offense

Feel that Collin underperformed in this game. He missed so many speed up counters.

It does seem like all he wants to do is show off his resetting abilities.

100%..... Imagine Riley thinking it was Matt holding him back. Not sure how that equates when you get 95% of the balls. 🤔

Or look at it as a very experienced veteran picking on relative rookies who are still amassing data and experience and still not at their peak.

So silly to demonize any shot. Imagine someone getting bent out of shape because you faked down the line to get your opponent moving and then go inside in so the ball goes behind them. The entire point of the game is to hit the ball where it will be difficult or impossible to return. A lob is every bit as legitimate as a dink, drive, smash, atp, erne, burt, poach, or slice.

​@@williamdowling7718I think he is referring to when it is used against people with mobility issues

​@@williamdowling7718 I agree 💯! That is exactly the point of my comment 👊🏼

@@ParryPickleballking-es2el which part of their comment indicates anything about mobility issues? They just said it's demonized far too often. Obviously if you're playing with someone with mobility issues, that's a dick move... But the context here is a professional pickleball match, not a daytime open gym with a bunch of retired people.

@@williamdowling7718 at what other time would it be demonized?..... None. It would be like complaining that a guy speeds up too much.

Collin’s counters and resets are average now. He’s half asleep all the time. He treats it like a practice session.

@@lazyhusband so that’s fair. I wonder if they are starting to get overwhelmed with power. To your point, Collin doesn’t look lost per se, but like he’s in slow motion trying to catch up at times. Just look at the players that have beaten them twice. Dekel Bar, Matt Wright, Andrei Daescu, and Gabe Tardio. Three of these have been known to play much more aggressive. Now with technology it’s becoming easier not to get in dinking battles with the Johns Bros, and it seems that they’re slow to adjust to the top end competitors. Their strategy will work in the earlier rounds but it’s clear people are finding holes.

@@joshc.6706 He’s hard to watch. I’m not even sure that he deserves to be drafted on a MLP Premier team anymore.

@@lazyhusband I mean you’re not wrong. He seriously needs to revamp his game. People have already surpassed and if he doesn’t adjust, he quickly becomes irrelevant. One aspect people have forgotten to acknowledge I find is the mentality of their opponents. Now that they’ve lost consistently prior to championship Sunday, they look vulnerable. They’ve lost and at times lost bad. Everybody is like these guys are human and beatable. Goes such a long way in a match when the opponent realistically believes they can win

Agreed. Ben looks to want it more than Collin.

Have you thought that maybe that’s how Ben wants Collin to play

Ben has been talking about the advantages of a leftie on the right. It might be the time to think about it. Ge is a good candidate.

Ben isn't as dominant as the other players continue to improve. They may want to change style rather that partners. Even if they do nothing they're a great doubles team. Just not a lock for gold after gold.

Eh, Ben played very poorly in this one. Atleast to his standards. The Johns bros will watch this and be ready for the next time they play.

You mean the illegal ones? 😅😂😂

did you not watch the video? obviously they scored and rotated to serve

Side out at 7:36. First serve from the right at 7:47 with a score of 3-3-1. They score the first point of the side at 8:17. The serve at 8:32 you mentioned is the second serve of the side with a score of 4-3-1.

Matt didn't used to cry or make loud "yeahs" until he played with that meathead Riley. Hopefully he changes back. It's unnecessary.