The most IMPORTANT 2 stroke porting rule I know... and why I STILL HATE aftermarket cylinders...

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JOHNS CUSTOM SAWS

JOHNS CUSTOM SAWS

2 жыл бұрын

I hope this helps someone out and I am just passing on knowledge that was passed on to me... its how we ensure this knowledge doesn't die with us... thanks guys 💯

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@billylee2312
@billylee2312 Ай бұрын
Probably the best video I’ve watched on porting. I feel comfortable giving it a shot now.
@gasaxecustomsaws
@gasaxecustomsaws 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've watched countless hours on 2 strokes, not once have I seen this. Thank you, again...
@treewisemenllc7281
@treewisemenllc7281 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the most helpful bits I've heard/learned about an engine in a long, long time. Thank you for this.
@videoaustralia
@videoaustralia 2 жыл бұрын
Im doing things with saws I never thought I would do because of this channel, you're an inspiration mate
@juledoren
@juledoren 11 ай бұрын
I just start cutting exhaust ports out😂
@clevernamehere7559
@clevernamehere7559 13 күн бұрын
@@juledorenthink that’s where it starts. Didn’t last long hogging on mufflers myself before I decided grinding on the steel might help too.
@hansondan06
@hansondan06 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of knowledge I’ve gained from this channel is insane. Thank you
@chrisjacobs2182
@chrisjacobs2182 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge to help us all out thank you!!
@timcline2799
@timcline2799 Жыл бұрын
Excellent site. Glad I found it. Thank you!
@nip917
@nip917 2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much from your limb reaper 200T, I was able to do my neighbors for him and he loves it. Won't even touch his stock ones anymore. You passed on the knowledge and I'm thankful.
@FYMM69
@FYMM69 2 жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate the info. Info I would’ve never thought of after 45yrs of messing with 2 strokes !! Thank you
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 2 жыл бұрын
Always learn something watching your videos.Keep up the good work.
@matthewziegler9756
@matthewziegler9756 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that! As a newbie at porting explains alot. Appreciated much!
@BigJohn_Browning
@BigJohn_Browning 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother...I'm always learning from you...keeping it rowdy.
@Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws
@Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws 2 жыл бұрын
thank you John! as always.... you are a wealth of knowledge as well as a pleasure to watch. you're a 2 stroke magician man!!! Keep up the great work & keep the videos coming!👍👍👍
@jasonsayre8102
@jasonsayre8102 2 жыл бұрын
Great info my man, we def appreciate the knowledge you share!
@calebthacker2162
@calebthacker2162 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve never heard this…appreciate the share of knowledge 💯
@rickfuerst
@rickfuerst Жыл бұрын
I just ran across this video. I just happened to have a 046 & and a 064. I plan on some engine work on the 064. Thanks for the info. Great content! You rock!
@walkerscountrylife
@walkerscountrylife Жыл бұрын
Never heard anyone else talking about this and it makes total sense. Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work, appreciate all you do buddy.
@AndyH-13
@AndyH-13 Жыл бұрын
You explain things really well, appreciated. Liked, subscribed and left a comment.
@ppesquire
@ppesquire 2 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for sharing . It makes so much sense, now that you pointed it out.
@adamspencer3620
@adamspencer3620 Жыл бұрын
That cleared up a lot of questions I’ve always had about the intake charge Without proper ring seal you have low negative pressure
@martygoodell9287
@martygoodell9287 2 жыл бұрын
Just came across your site. Impressed in the few minutes! Thanks
@edwinburns4785
@edwinburns4785 10 ай бұрын
Thanks John....New to this porting hobby and this is the first I heard of this. Makes absolute sense. Off to the shop to check a 394 I have apart and waiting for parts. Thanks again.
@Anthony071177
@Anthony071177 Жыл бұрын
Very good tip I’ve never heard any other channel mention. Thanks.
@herbertsmith2640
@herbertsmith2640 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information. I'm new to 2 strokes. Really appreciate it
@waywardshed9721
@waywardshed9721 Жыл бұрын
Those big bore kits are all problematic, good tips man thanks for sharing. Keen to see this running
@TTisleofmanTt
@TTisleofmanTt 9 ай бұрын
Excellent vid.this is exactly how I work out what I can do to a saw.
@kowski9477
@kowski9477 8 ай бұрын
Great video man! I can absolutely understand what your explaining here and yes it makes total sense. Good job keep sharing your knowledge, thanks!
@jonathanhalverson2380
@jonathanhalverson2380 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the heads up John, I've been building and working on saws since I was a kid and I'm just now starting to mess around with porting and any other ways to gain extra power out of most of my saws or when ever I get new power heads. A lot of the stuff that I have learned is either from your channel or the IronHorse and I have to say you both have a really good knowledge on the do's and don'ts when it comes to hopping stuff up. So once again thank you very much for the quick awesome trick on how to tell if your saws going to have good power out of the box.Also at least that was an aftermarket head, but still don't blame you for being pissed off on wasting your time when you could have prevented it like you said. P.S. I like the video for ya👍
@doingitwronggarage9651
@doingitwronggarage9651 8 ай бұрын
That was a good tip. Thank you. Subscribed now. Always interesting to hear and see how you "over there" think about things differently. Like focusing on exhaust port opening and transfer port opening in the unrelated degrees after TDC in stead of total open duration that is based on degrees from bottom dead center.
@flakey7832
@flakey7832 Жыл бұрын
we don't have this very cool saw modding thing here, but we do have 2 strokes so this can very well be applied to scooters as well, great videos
@timstone721
@timstone721 9 ай бұрын
Great video and knowledge, I really appreciate this advice, thanks
@chadmeador1557
@chadmeador1557 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to building saws and that's some good info. Thank you! And Liked and subscribed. 👍
@justinweaver8787
@justinweaver8787 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool information thank u 4 sharing!!!
@chrisseger6870
@chrisseger6870 2 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every day, man. Makes me wonder if the first saw I ported (which I will never show anyone the cylinder because it's horrifying) had that issue on top of what I did to it...🤔
@MrHuntermikey
@MrHuntermikey 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome info big Thanks John
@geralddavis9236
@geralddavis9236 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back in action i wondering why I hadn't seen any of your videos
@williamgrissom1995
@williamgrissom1995 Ай бұрын
This is a great help to me. I bought 2 G111 saws and I considered cleaning up the ports. Roughish on the intake and polishing the exahaust. But I won't unless the saw is too disappointing. One bit of advice I got to make them run like the 200t was a gasket delete and to port the muffler. I'm not looking to make it a mini race saw. I just want it to cut as well as my 200t I use to have did. The 200t was brand new when I bought it and just stock.
@beekone28
@beekone28 2 жыл бұрын
that is a very simple check no one ever told me on any channel! thanks a lot!
@RichFife
@RichFife 2 жыл бұрын
Game changer for guys. Great Information!!! This is what helps everyone in this community. Thank You. John, what about a husky piston in that cylinder... it should have a higher top ring.
@tylerheard1279
@tylerheard1279 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Makes perfect sense, just never thought about it that way.
@Macgyver-ranch
@Macgyver-ranch Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Now I will have to check the cheapo big bore I pulled off of the 066 because of an odd miss. The intake was way too low out of the box.
@timothymilam732
@timothymilam732 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent bit of information on that, and your correct on no one sharing information with anyone. I found that out years ago with the two stroke dirt bike engine builders back in the 70's and 80's. You would of thought you were asking for the secrets to understanding women, or how to convert lead to gold or something serious like either of those. So finding someone who isn't insecure about himself or his abilities to be above average in his trade craft is not the norm for such things as engine builders of any kind, especially preformance builders.
@brub5174
@brub5174 Жыл бұрын
Lowering intake for more torque. Highering exhaust for more top end. Damn dude. Thanks. You got a sub. Will try to port my own echo 3510. Not sure if I want it snappy or high end. Or a little of both lol.
@grabo454
@grabo454 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing!
@chadbrewer6882
@chadbrewer6882 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you’re on KZfaq; Never be concerned to ask for a thumbs up a like or subscribe. That’s how you get paid. That’s the name of the game and you provide so much knowledge for the hobby. Obviously you do you, but ask for that thumbs up/subscribe! Just my two cents and thanks again for this killer info! Took a lot of mystery out of why we do and don’t and especially just reconfirmed why I’ll never buy aftermarket Chinesium. Cheers!
@lessmith4974
@lessmith4974 Жыл бұрын
Quality info,cheers, much appreciated.
@jefferyfunk3598
@jefferyfunk3598 Ай бұрын
Thats great advice/tip, thanks.
@Shiddyvet
@Shiddyvet 7 ай бұрын
This is an awesome video. I still don’t understand a lot but I’m learning!
@brendanhayes2752
@brendanhayes2752 7 ай бұрын
I’m not a professional chainsaw guy but I loved the cut away. That really helped.
@DIESELMAN8V92
@DIESELMAN8V92 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :) best tip I have ever learned!!!
@matthewnorris203
@matthewnorris203 Ай бұрын
Interesting. Porting seems like such an art. I like rules of thumb like this..
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip ,your a big help !
@2Cheap4society
@2Cheap4society 6 ай бұрын
Great video, very good point you are pointing out! For those who did not catch the facetious statement about taking out the top ring and trying compression check, basically It is because the combustion chamber is not sealed. You have a few degrees of crank rotation before it seals. If it's sealed earlier in the stroke it would give you higher compression. Like he said it will run but the compression would be lower than if the chamber was sealed.
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 2 жыл бұрын
This is gold thank you very much John
@scottwilson4396
@scottwilson4396 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that info John 🫶🏿
@kraftzion
@kraftzion Жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of saw modding channels and have never seen this. Instant new subscriber.
@customsaws
@customsaws 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 👍
@ocsplc
@ocsplc Жыл бұрын
John were with you 100% buddy. Thanks
@mechanech
@mechanech Жыл бұрын
Thank you John!!!
@sporranheid
@sporranheid Жыл бұрын
Don't get mad, get even 😜 A great gift! Thank you.
@skravlesen
@skravlesen 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thanks man👍
@79attaboy
@79attaboy 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a great tip. Thanks👍
@helloallyouppl
@helloallyouppl Жыл бұрын
Got this on my main feed, looking forward to seeing more content
@latinodeathjazz
@latinodeathjazz 2 жыл бұрын
Well that explains a great deal. Thanks for sharing that.
@chadaccettura1993
@chadaccettura1993 5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot man, great video!
@ronsilva516
@ronsilva516 2 жыл бұрын
That was very helpful I kid you not that was very very insightful thank you 🤣👍👍👍👍
@olefugle
@olefugle 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks
@chriseller757
@chriseller757 Ай бұрын
First I've heard of it so thank you sir
@pentecost66
@pentecost66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man keep up the good work.
@joepilkington1646
@joepilkington1646 Жыл бұрын
This has just made things so much easier for me
@fearghalmorrissey2601
@fearghalmorrissey2601 2 жыл бұрын
Nice tip 👍 makes sense 👍
@ericnicol2616
@ericnicol2616 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thank you for that information!
@chadmeador1557
@chadmeador1557 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric! Just subscribed to your channel as well! 🤘
@williamfgreene6855
@williamfgreene6855 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip !
@clinkerclint
@clinkerclint 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet, thanks for the info!
@ronsilva516
@ronsilva516 Жыл бұрын
Good advice 👍
@Hboysoutdoors
@Hboysoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you first time hearing that
@Op1zilla
@Op1zilla Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Tasty piece of info 👽👍
@mirceastaicu4131
@mirceastaicu4131 2 жыл бұрын
If only everyone would be as kind as you, and share your hard earn knowledge, we wouldn't be wasting thousands (if not more) of man hours. Sadly this happens in most industries, entire business models are created on asymmetric information. Thank you!
@charleimcdonald896
@charleimcdonald896 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@pauldharmer
@pauldharmer 8 ай бұрын
First time here, have 2 031av saws to rebuild, guess I'll be binge watching for a while,
@DDSNAG709
@DDSNAG709 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dennisthemenace57
@dennisthemenace57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@toddcaskey9984
@toddcaskey9984 Жыл бұрын
Great job
@acurarl9929
@acurarl9929 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Question does the shaved flywheel cool the saw for sawing notmally
@jeffwooton7138
@jeffwooton7138 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Hotrodders will hotrod!
@JRMny-nl4ut
@JRMny-nl4ut Жыл бұрын
Thanks👍
@jamesmoose7878
@jamesmoose7878 Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@mm88swrt
@mm88swrt Жыл бұрын
Well I guess I now have to go look at my saws lol. Never heard of this rule and I've been watching a ton of builders
@jonoj7666
@jonoj7666 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro 😊👍
@Witschor
@Witschor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, i will check that on my Testsaw and rethink that to understand exactly the Functions. Is that the Point when a Saw barks back through the Intake , caused of to much intake Timing? I will check that on different Saws that show up in my Shop. Thanks a lot Man!
@mbmcclure3579
@mbmcclure3579 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Just found your channel today and subbed. I’m wanting to learn all I can and for somebody just starting this is very much appreciated information.
@AKAthegreatwhite
@AKAthegreatwhite Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Can you share how much to shave off the bottom intake side? Is it in relation to the top ring above the exhaust port to the opening of the intake and shaving it down right before the intake opens? Thanks again for the impressive videos. A+ I am working on a 45cc rovan rc engine.
@WildStyleWorks
@WildStyleWorks Жыл бұрын
very nice hint, good video, thank you for explaining, i thing i am ready now to port my china saw just for fun 🙂 i made an evil pipe for it, i may make a video when i am done.
@Ecksterphono
@Ecksterphono 6 ай бұрын
Don't feel bad. I've jumped the gun once to on not checking the fitment and kicked myself. We all have our blond moments when not checking aftermarket components beforehand no matter how experienced. But at least we catch it before major embarrassment occurs if we would have assembled and ran it. At least you got on top of it. Great learning video for the novice and thanks for the heads-up.
@colleenpierce9626
@colleenpierce9626 22 күн бұрын
thank you
@PolarisRider06
@PolarisRider06 7 ай бұрын
Wouldnt this depend a lot on transfer port timing? If the transfer ports are opening before the ring gets below the top of the exhaust port that would allow the expanding exhaust gasses to push backwards into the case potentially igniting all of that as well as actually stalling the intake pulse if the intake port was on its last degree or 2 of being open. But if the transfer ports aren't open yet the expanding exhaust gases are still pushing only on the piston, creating power and the case volume is decreasing, which also stalls the intake pulse but its not screwing with the direction of air flow in the transfer ports, they are basically dead air. So the exhaust opening (ring below top of port) only after the intake is fully closed (skirt below port) is important because then case pressure is building to prevent reverse flow of exhaust gases when the transfer port begins to open (ring below top of port) which i would assume you would want to happen just after the exhaust cracks open so that the exhaust is starting to escape through the exhaust port and there is more pressure in the case that will force the intake charge through the transfer ports with more speed and expell the exhaust gasses faster But then theres the intake shit that needs to be taken into account... fuck. It's been 20 years since I've actually thought about 2 stroke port timing and I used to have the concept down pretty good and now I'm playing mental gymnastics once again trying to remember the theories on how it all works. Plus, I keep thinking about things that would apply with reed valve cases when there is an actual valve preventing backflow if the transfer ports are open before the exhaust is open... I wonder if I still have all of my notes on port timing theory, exhaust scavenging and expansion chambers, and all of the other shit I made copies of and printed out back then... Why the hell do I do this to myself...
@junkyardboost8372
@junkyardboost8372 2 ай бұрын
The exhaust port always opens well before the transfers. This is called blowdown.
@ramtruck2011able
@ramtruck2011able 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ronsilva516
@ronsilva516 2 жыл бұрын
I push a a laughing emoji by mistake keep doing what your doing👍👍👍👍👍👍😎
@BillsGarageWorks
@BillsGarageWorks Жыл бұрын
Wow ya that makes perfect sense and I could see how that would be a easy miss!
@lumbearjack3722
@lumbearjack3722 Жыл бұрын
Never heard this before. I’m interested if that’s why a few saws I’ve done don’t run as well as the others
@thadstuart8544
@thadstuart8544 8 ай бұрын
That was badass
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