No wonder why Joma is always depressed, his brother is just too OP lmao

Joma gets less goofy and show-offy around his brilliant, serious brother.

Dad: hi son, how's life? are you success yet? did you hear that your brother just earn $60M?

Chad programmer vs virgin youtuber

Sasuke and Itachi in the tech clan

Takeaways : 1. Finding other places to package ML system is more impactful than optimising the existing components over and over. 2. Pitfall : Focusing too much on academic research for business problem, lots of literatures are not reproducible. 3. Finding a way to apply ML to business is difficult, so it must be worth it and we need to define the right pipelines from training to model optimization. 4. Do not focusing on the ML, focusing on the solution of the business. 5. Solve repetitive problem with human first, then use simple heuristics, then improve the accuracy with ML. 6. Do not focusing on the technology, iterate fast on business problems. 7. Pitfall : Trying to solve too much with ML. Focus on the most important part that can be solved with ML. Dear Joma, I cannot be more thankful for this interview. This kind of interview is incredibly inspiring and valuable. I wish you can make lots of interview like this which focuses on the business/product aspects. We already have tons of material on ML, AI, Coding, Devops blabla. What we need are the WHY and HOW (to be rich like your brother). thankyou thankyou thankyou.....

Joma is acting like he’s never seen his brother before.

This is a really high-quality interview. Probably because it's between two very intelligent and clued-up technical and business people. Thank you Joma and brother, David.

Sold company for 60 mill *not a piece of designer clothing in sight* goals honestly

These guys act like Buisness partners not brothers

This interview is brilliant! The best realistic discussion on the use of real world ML that I’ve heard. David is awesome.

Your brother's advice on doing stuff manually and only later on automating something is great advice for pre-seed startups. Thank you very much!

This is your best Interview yet. I really like this much more chill kind of atmosphere

He answered all my questions on Twitter!! I'm so humbled!!!!

how happy to see own brother doing so well in life!

Incredibly insightful. I hope I'll be able to remember everything covered in this interview. If I do, I'm sure this'll help shape the rest of my career.

Wow this is an incredible interview and video thank you so much for this! You and your brother are awesome!

This interview shed light on a lot of questions for me. Great advice! Thank you!

Pretty amazing. Lisa is basically a one-stop interactive AI system. It actually could be fitting all the fields and doesn't need to be just for the real state.

The coolest guy on the internet And Joma

This guy is funny as hell in the ending when plugging his twitter.

Thanks for doing the show! Great inspirations!

6:45 --> So true! Models are useless if cannot perform in a Production environment. Encountered this several times as a PM. I predict that eventually there will be an open source framework that will help integrating the Data Science (models) with the Data engineering part of it (infrastructure)

Joma don't goooo, we need more of these interviews :(

super valuable interview... wish you just did more of these types of interviews, extremely motivating

I loved the question you asked him on how LISA actually works. Gave me some ideas on how to explain the interactions in the app am working on.

David is a vibe. He seems calming.

please never stop making videos man i m a computer science student and i get motivated whenever i see your videos

Working as a ML specialist at a small startup, this was definitely inspiring. And it made me feel less shitty about the simple solutions I have come up with for the company so far, lol

I really liked David's wisdom there. Everyone is trying to fit models but not spending any thought to solve a problem in the real-world with a holistic approach. Bravo:)

Joma low key richer than tech lead by association now.

David seems like calmer and less arrogant Steven Jobbs. No wonder he was so successful.

If you're a budding entrepreneur, this video is gold - Lots of tips, how to stay focused on the outcome than premature optimizing. Cheers.

A big part of ML engineering is "production-izing" the model - taking a model you learned and tested in development, and integrating it into whatever system or application you've created. Bonus points if you create a production system that allows you to A/B test different models against each other live in production in a statistically significant way.

great interview loved the break down of the product amazing

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THUMBNAIL CONTENT AT THE BEGINNING. THIS MOVE MAKES ME WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO

A great interview. After watching it, I subscribed your channel. Thanks, Hope to see something like this more...

Would definitely pay to learn more about the components and processes that he found helpful when building for existing products.

Thats inspirational man Much appreciated

This was very valuable! Awesome job!

Very good points made by the interviewee!

You could tell His brother is a genius. 🧠 gives off that “Brilliant” vibe.

This is really informative, thanks. No boasting, just real information and facts.

Very cool interview, really informative, thank you!

Joma's brother is so cool man.

You look much better than few months during your job searching. Preparing for interviews when I know nothing about algorithms is so stressing😭 I feel you man.

Such high quality content. LOVE your channel.

I love your channel Joma! Please keep up the good work

He’s so adorable 🥰 omg I hope Joma does more interviews with him.

Broo please put your interview on Spotify as podcasts so I can just easily listen to them offline when communing ❤️

Brother, that video was a gold mine , hats off & thank you.

Fascinating conversation. Thank you

I've watched this video for about three times and now this the fourth time. Is just make me feel ready to get into tech industry but unfortunately I drop out from college due for my language skills at that time. Never give up.

They're both obviously very smart but his brother sounds extremely intelligent. Inspirational fs

Amazing interview! *I feel lucky to have come across this!* 🙌😊📚🤩

Finally you are back, man , keep checking you everyday!!!!!

Dang, he’s living the dream

I hopefully i’ll be hired for his company in the next 5 years, this video make my try hard to learn more python packages

Close your eyes and he sounds like Elon Musk slightly 😂😂😂

His brother sat with perfect posture throughout the entire interview.

*You should do a video with your parents. They must be proud!*

Very good diagram!! Made it easy to understand overview of LISA!

This is good bro a lot of insight on startups.

Fantastic useful information. I'm working for an AI startup and seeing some of the same pitfalls as well.

26:00 Joma: " are u guys hiring (pointing himself) " Then goes on to interview the 'could be' boss.

Your brother is very humble about his intelligence

Your bro seems to be being a good Guy, props to your parents for two Great children

“I was a researcher bla bla bla “ nothing hit my heart so fast.

Every video that I watch of Joma is lit af

So ML increases user-readiness for the final product and that involves full project management with various focuses activated simultaneously... it's not all sitting and doing the obvious coding work, anymore... and he thinks that's the fun. He likes doing all the busywork to define the existing infrastructure. Most engineers don't see the gold in being like that, probably because they're impatient. They'd rather lose sleep optimizing components with no confirmed demand because then you look amazing instantly. Loved the visual accompaniment. I'll miss these videos.

wow this was super informative, thanks!

Awesome questions asked with such depth

This is a great talk. Your brother is very knowledgable and I'm greatful to hear this conversation and the insights provided. Thanks for both of your time! I'd be interested to hear how "software engineering" concepts are distinguished from ML components. Is the SWE part working with React, Node.JS building UI, user logins, system design components (databases, caching, indexing, CDNs)? Was the SWE focused on web development (DJANGO w/ python or MongoExpressReactNode) or mobile (IOS / Android)?

These dudes are Savage's, they keep their employees under 30, sell for 60m, quickly.

Need a video of ya hanging out chillin! Bros!

man this was a proper tech interview ......way better than those interviews which media channels conduct like how did you achieve this at such a young age or do you want to beat facebook or google(blah blah blah).....

As someone who is working with Machine Learning for my university's final year project this is so interesting and has certainly got me focusing on the right idea. Thank you so much for publishing this

It is very useful comments on adapting AI to business, software engineering is still very important to core business

Good interview. Picked up some useful information

8:15 Joma: "Maybe not everything should use blockchain technology" Also Joma: Creates an entire cinematic universe surrounding eccentric CEOs trying to integrate blockchain into window blinds and shades. Coincidence? I think not!

A humble Super Nerdy ML Engineer..

This guy is the true real guy who gives insights of the industry.

This one is great. I mean there so many hints in this video that my eyeballs almost poped up.

I'm curious about the business side of things. Did they raise funds to start their biz and to also pay themselves while building the company? How were they able to sustain themselves while working on the biz? And were they all sharing the same apartment in the meantime? Some things that we don't learn in school or online platforms that would give some good insights for people.

Great interview. It's cool to see two really smart people who are comfortable with each other discussing technical topics. 👍 Also, this really reminds me of how much I've wasted my life. 😑

Excellent interview.

Bravo on the win, but the first startup has intriguing merit all it's own even without venture interest. Would have been interesting to see it work.

Yo your brother is speaking facts. Everyone is worried about building the model and not feature engineering. Majority of the time your messing with the data pipeline but people don’t wanna hear that

13:51 Maybe show dark interface!

2 brothers who are so alike is rare

Just wanna say this is absolutely true, in my 3 years of experience for companies like Adobe, you have to do it all, and you have to start simple.

I have an internship interview coming up and the insight at 7:15 will come in very handy. Thank you

Joma’s bro: had a start up sold for 60M Joma: we still don’t know what happened to NOTVINE! 😂

apart from money or popularity things..being an engineer is already brilliant and prestigious, especially in computer field, your knowledge and skill are be able to shape the technology advancement that other profession cannot do. most job science and social need computer and technology

Good interview and ad as well :) I think that at the end of the day AI ends as chat bot improvement... there is always high hopes and buzz as with blockchain but at the end of the day it's generaly limited.

So cute. He’s so proud of his brother

Really appreciate the honesty, instead of usual AI hype

Great video !

insightful and useful interview imo

Now waiting for your brother's 3rd interview in the future 'cause surely you'd have more cool stuff to talk to again.