Listen to your fans Jomez, the folks that prefer post production. I understand the live market is the future of disc golf. I can't think of any other sport that the best footage is a day behind and not best viewed live. Your fans have had your back in the past and will continue to be loyal.

There needs to be a direct in for the commentators to reduce the echo. It is painful for uli.

Maybe redo the audio and re upload? It is the world championship. People will watch this for year to come. Thank you for what y’all do. Y’all are the best in the business.

Thanks for clarifying, thought I had selected the wrong EQ or something. That being said, I much prefer the usual audio style, the additional reverb and echo is quite distracting and takes away from the video production. I think it's ok to try new forms of coverage but would be best to not impact the existing forms you guys normally excel at.

@@keiichi1 lol Uli sounds like he is trapped in an alternate dimension and trying to make contact

And there's a whole lotta space in there......just kidding Uli, you're pretty smart..and knowledgeable enough to have your own safari specials

😂😂😂 Audio was bad in this final video. 👎

Lmfaaaaaaaaooooo. Now I cannot watch this

Wait, we’re not all in Uli’s mind hearing his thoughts?

😂😂😂

That audio is just 👎. There's no soundboard to pick this up from?

@@Datamining101 I feel like if they want to try this again, they're going to have to find a more "dead" acoustic space. Usually, large acoustic spaces tend to be live, but not all of them are this live.

Man every time Uli talks it hurts...really sucks too since this is arguably the most important video they will upload all year.

@@Tsblank97 Really is a shame, maybe they can re-record the audio but it's a big ask. Unwatchable for me :(

I agree, really weird echo on both their voices too...

I feel that.

You put it way more elegantly and diplomatic than I was going to. I was so mad about the sound quality that I tried to get a refund and in the process of finding info about Moment I got the tournament spoiled. I even kept away from reddit and the internet in general to not get spoiled. @jomezpro Please never do this again.

The sport is growing but don’t change Jomez. We like you for what you are.

Poorly executed. Should have recorded the audio on a separate file. Literally sounds like a guy sitting in the third row recording on his iPhone.

True. I also overheard the result while on the course for a round so waiting for next day cost me the anticipation of not know.

😂🤣🤣

Oh man I’d not read that, that makes this SOOO much better! Lol

I saw this comment before the start of the cast. I was lmao every time Paul spoke through the first 3 holes.

Lol!

I came looking for this comment.

This type of commentary for a live audience just doesn’t seem right. The live show should be highlights or something to get the fan interaction more.

@@Whysomean850 You’re on point with the fan interaction. I am ok with the concept, but the execution of it was so awful that they’ll be hard pressed to get a second chance from people. They have a lot of good fortune with their following, so some grace will be extended. The problem with this is that it doesn’t feel live. You’ve got to have audience mics and engagement (laughing & applause) for this sort of thing. For the virtual audience, this is just a crappy version of a normal Jomez production with ungodly amounts of reverb. I would like to see them pull this off with someone who is a well-versed in live audio scenarios. I hate that the concept of it is being judged so harshly because of how poorly it was handled from a technical standpoint.

@@broLgray very well said, terrible execution (audio wise) on an otherwise pretty cool idea. I watched it this morning with a big group of buddies and we were notably disappointed at first but quickly forget about by about the 3rd hole. I look forward to them learning from this, (maybe testing it again on a smaller tournament), then I’d be happy to have this again next year.

Nate and Jerm sound good enough but Paul's audio is pretty rough.

But did you die tho?

Uli sounds like he's at the bottom of a well.

sounds terrible. Jomez, hire me next time. Very easy to set up some lav mics if you’re going to do this live. (I do this for a living)

Agreed.

Constructive feedback.

I would say that it sounds more like he's doing the show from his bathroom.

A closet would eliminate the echo. This is a mens restroom. Maybe at the local waffle house?

Very very underwhelming

@@hamsleyperformance too much reverb on the audio, especially on Uli’s audio

The audio improves later

20:28 Jerm agrees

LOL. Or Flashbacks? The voice of God?

Sounds like Nate's mic was routed directly to the stream / record deck, but Uli's wasn't. What you are hearing is Uli's audio coming out of the speakers in the room and into Nate's mic. In the future you MUST have someone with headphones monitoring the stream to catch stuff like this.

@@ErinEllaNathan maybe they were monitoring but couldn't fix it because of lack of equipment available. I don't imagine them having a large budget for these productions. Honestly, probably just the bare minimum at times. So it could have been something where they knew what was happening, but did not have the resources to fix it. Also, Uli's audio source is not coming from Nate's mic. This is a different problem. It honestly sounds like the audio for Uli's feed has some kind of filter or looping issue through the line. Or more likely, the audio is from a different microphone that is placed somewhere in the room near the audience/speaker. But not from Nate's mic. Each commentator has their own source, but Uli's is messed up.

He has a whole physics of flight series on DD channel

Yes, i love it!

Agreed with this. I love the way Danny discusses form and breaks things down in his DD videos.

Agreed, this should be kept if possible.

If he could do this more often, that'd be great.

Nobody notices problems until there's problems. Amazing comment

I heard Jerm's voice and was like "Welp, there were some issues." Then I heard Paul's and oooh boy.

But did you die tho?

Also maybe not a clever idea

I agree, even for US fans. I got the winner spoiled from a comment while trying to find info on when the final round coverage would be up

@@Justinlmd Exactly, that's why I didn't dare google info or go on twitter to see if they'd tweeted any information. Kept refreshing the Jomezpro KZfaq page for 8 hours in vain. :P

@@Justinlmd there are no spoilers in live sports

We understand, thanks for your feedback!

But did you die tho?

@@JomezPro very fun to watch nevertheless, appreciate all the work you guys put in

@@JomezPro I loved it. I think a lot of people aren't used to live events and how the transition from staged to live makes differences in production. I think it was awesome and a great event.

@@JomezPro hire a sound professional and it would be great. Some lavs on the commentators, some ambient mics for the audience feedback, mix it so it has the presentation this final deserves.

I think they waited so long to bait us into paying for it when they do it next time. "Don't want to wait two days to see the final round next year? Then pay us and stream 'live.'" It makes sense from a business perspective, but I think it backfired with the quality. I don't think I'll be paying for it next year.

It's not minor. It's absolutely unwatchable. I love uli but I'd rather them just cut his audio from this

It's not minor. It's absolutely unwatchable.

I don't think anyone else does. It seems like a soap opera sitcom with fake applause after every little comment . This shit is absolutely migraine inducing.

It is possible to have the same quality as normal. It’s likely just that it’s a new thing and they had additional problems to solve (live, audio going to the venue as well) but it’s totally possible to tighten it up. I definitely agree for the biggest tourney of the year the quality should be better. But honestly not even mad. Jomez and the bigsexybari are top notch. They have a little allowance to experiment and tighten things up. If they do this again, and the audio is the same I’d think it was a little unfortunate they didn’t tighten it up. But ya. Definitely should match the normal audio.

You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Cut them some slack, they tried something brand new trying to give fans an amazing experience. They will learn from the sound issue and make it an epic 2023. Im a fan of many sports and I’m not kidding when I say I think the Jomez Pro team covers the PDGA as good as if not better than any other group covers any other professional sport.

Yea Jerm, Nate and Paul are fine. I like them but I think Jomez has been trying to trade on their personalities and it just doesn’t work. They got real weird with the practice rounds earlier in the year and that didn’t work and they subsequently reverted to the old format. Now they do this and it doesn’t work. I’m not sure they know their audience as well as they think they do. The light joking and nonsense during commentary is the exact amount of joking and nonsense people want in their disc golf content. It’s adds a little spice but the protein of the meal is the disc golf. Just because I like lemon chicken doesn’t mean I want to suck on a bunch of lemons lol.

@@yeadogthazmyboi that's a great analogy hahaha and I totally agree with everything you said. They're great dudes with great personalities but the overmarketing of them is kinda cringe imo. Not to mention how cringe it is to here actually laughter from the audience in the background like it's a comedy show but ITS THE FINAL ROUND OF WORLDS. Does not mix whatsoever, it's just so awkward to me.

@@baileybrown811 totally agree

lol, exactly what I was thinking 🤣 Made me laugh everytime picturing him commentating on the toliet for this world calss event.

i really enjoyed the live coverage top hole graphic as well, especially after first shots on longer holes!

I agree completely, I find out who won but still like to watch the battle so Jomez is all good for me next level for me is to have what disc they are throwing at each throw and maybe have a disc speed on the drives.

scrolled too far to find this. especially after intentionally trying to avoid seeing how the final day played out till i could watch Jomez, this is definitely a little disappointing.

Same

I guess I’m just going to spoil it and watch gatekeeper back 9. Been waiting all day for this trying to not get it spoiled. But can’t wait all night.

At least they fixed the spoiler graphic for YT! Too bad YT missed the Starframe sets... Now the $5 is feeling like it was actually a value

@@mascatrails661 I knew how it ended already so I didn’t notice it but I love seeing Jomez storytelling!

Was this the same vantage point as the "live"?

@@QueenBButton no the cameras were next to each other and I think they had more for Jomez.

Physics of Form is awesome Danny, I want it every round.

Same

Probably out now on there website for $10... Smh

The disc golf gods

RANGERS! Rita has summoned a monster and an army of putties. I'm going with the ESP Nuke

@@spockhozzer7207 Jonathan, Jeremy, Paul and Nate form Mega Zord

just worse lol

would like to know this as well

Agreed

I agree. They already have the footage edited. They already have the audio. Just overlay the two? I'm confused.

Hahahaha

not much could be done reverb recorded from inside the venue

@@Zakkday I mean… Nate’s audio is fine…

Yeah but the world championships like somebody's got a notice this at some time

He doesn’t.

F

I think it's pretty easy to understand being upset if you paid to watch coverage only to have the winner spoiled, sub-par audio/streaming quality and issues with the streaming platform itself. Moment House also has some major work to do; they already messed up GMM's Good Mythical Evening last week and a lot of people couldn't get on to watch this one either. Jomez might not be as big as a major broadcasting corp but they have set an incredibly high bar with their normal production quality and unfortunately with an event as big as Worlds, it felt like a bit of a let down to have it end like that. Live is a whole different scenario and I think for a lot of people, the expectations were higher due to the past coverage and factoring in having it be a paid experience. They tried, I'm sure they learned some things that worked/didn't work and hopefully will take it back to the table and come up with a better option in the future. I think it would've been prudent to test it out more prior to Worlds to ensure the format and tech would work as planned but hindsight is 20/20 and I'm sure they did what they thought was best at the time with the info they had. Paid coverage is fine and if anyone will figure out how to make it work and give it value, it's Jomez. I think they also nailed some things this year; it was far from a complete flop. The other card check ins were awesome, whether they used Gatekeeper coverage or just showed the current standings, it was awesome to be able to track the other players who were killing it. I really hope they'll keep that feature in normal coverage. The analysis pieces were great to have, all the additional wind stats were cool and overall the variety of camera shots really brought it all to another level. At the end of the day they still have some of the best coverage out there. They're really innovating the future of disc golf coverage and I think these growing pains are just part of the process.