iVTM4 Rear Differential Fluid Change. 16+ Pilot, 17+ Ridgeline 19+ Passport Save $$$ Hundreds

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Күн бұрын

When you drive off pavement in mountainous terrain, or if you pull a trailer, you put your vehicle through "SEVERE DUTY". This means you'll need to change out your fluids "earlier" than normal use. This will go for ALL vehicles, but not every car manufacturer defines severe duty the same. For example, Subaru considers stop and go traffic in the city "severe duty". Honda considers slow mountainous driving "severe duty".
Under the severe duty schedule, the rear differential fluid in a 2016+ Pilot, 2017+ Ridgeline and 2019+ Passport needs to be changed out every 15K miles (7.5K for the first time). Basically, you should change the rear diff fluid every 3 oil changes. Since the average driver does about 15K miles a year, EVERY SINGLE YEAR you can save $135 to 185.
**SUPER IMPORTANT** Make sure you use the right fluid, which is the Dual Pump II fluid (NOT VTM-4 FLUID).
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Below are the items you'll need. Do not over pay for anything. I found that Dual pump fluid II was being marked up 3x on Amazon. The below link is currently the cheapest price ($6.34 per quart), but that may change in the future. Also, see if buying in bulk will save you money on shipping.
HERE'S WHAT YOU'LL NEED:
(Qty 2) Quarts of Dual Pump Fluid II
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(Qty 1) 18mm Drain Plug "Crush Washer"
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(this is a link for 20 washers for $6)
(Qty 1) 20mm Fill Plug "Crush Washer"
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(this is a link for 20 washers for $6)
(Qty 1) Fluid Quart Pump
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(Qty 1) 3/8" breaker bar or long ratcheting wrench (you won't have enough leverage with a short wrench)
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(Qty 1) 3/8" Drive Socket Extension
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(Qty 1) Drain Pan
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*Note, some of the links above are amazon affiliate links. I'll make a small profit at no additional cost to you!
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Navigation
00:00 Intro
01:18 What you'll need
02:25 Step 1 - Remove the fill plug
05:43 Step 2 - Remove the drain plug (drain rear diff fluid)
07:31 Step 3 - Install new crush washers
08:40 Step 4 - Insert and tighten drain plug (35 ft lbs)
09:05 Step 5 - Pump in 2 quarts of Dual Pump Fluid II
10:54 Step 6a (not in video) - air bleed the rear differential by running the engine for 2 minutes. This will circulate the rear differential fluid and expel the air.
10:54 Step 6b - Insert and tighten fill plug (35 ft lbs)
More items I recommend:
Monitor your transmission temperature and other data with a SCANGAUGE II
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@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

**one step you should perform is an “air bleed”. Before inserting/tightening the fill plug. Run your vehicle for about 2 minutes to let all the fluids circulate through. What would you buy with all the money saved? Save up for a big purchase like a roof top tent? Or buy small items piece by piece?

@joobaggs6886 2 жыл бұрын

I'd go for a front mounted winch!

@04JALD 2 жыл бұрын

The rear wheel carrier 😁

@04JALD 2 жыл бұрын

Great job Jon. My turn to so the same. 😁

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

@@joobaggs6886 I could really use one. The only thing holding me back is…. Well… a winch bumper 🤣.

@joobaggs6886 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring maybe look into a cordless ratchet wrench. They are under hundred bucks!

@lictorprotectus3319 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this clear and concise video. Happy trails!

@Thomas-fk6ep Жыл бұрын

Just got the b16 maintenance code at 12k miles. This 100% helps. Ty again.

@donu5282 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Will help when it's time for me to change my diff oil!

@cineaste1969 4 ай бұрын

Good video, don’t worry about the spill we all do that! 👍🏼

@ricbishop208 23 күн бұрын

Very good and simple explanation.

@TonyLockhart 2 жыл бұрын

Great video…,many thanks!

@Jump6pack1 7 ай бұрын

Once again, Jon has helped a lot of people out. Just picked up a 2019 Passport Elite with only 29k miles. You have been a great asset Jon! Also, love how you demonstrated the usefulness of the tire rack/table with showing the supplies needed. Would love to add one, but right now it is the wife's daily driver. The tires and wheels and the hopefully soon to be added skid plates are about as far as I dare push it for now. Keep up the good work Jon!

@tamake4492 2 жыл бұрын

Great reminder!!!

@Ram14250 2 жыл бұрын

I've done my rear diff fluid at 7500 k...with the Dual Pump Fluid ... and it was easy. Glad to see your magnet was pretty clean of shavings with all the hard off-roading you do! Nice!!

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was really clean. In the intro you see me driving up this impossible sandy hill from a dead stop. I can’t believe I drove up, but when I got to the top, I had the AWD hot temp warning. Nice to know I didn’t burn my fluid. OH! That’s another reason why I wanted to do this job myself. I wanted to see how the fluid looked! 😃

@aaronrepper7649 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reminding me it's time for that service soon.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Remember, first time is at 7500 if you offroad and 12000 if you don’t. Then you double the distance for each change there after.

@Glenn.h Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video

@thayes1007 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video.

@joobaggs6886 2 жыл бұрын

That fluid still looked pretty clear lol

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Not only the fluid, but also the magnet on the drain plug. Good to see I’m not shearing too much. The fluid was notably darker than the new fluid, but as you saw, it was relatively clear. A friend of mine has never changed his rear diff fluid in his 2017 Honda Pilot. He has 44K miles 🤣 he might be good!

@gustavomedrano8204 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@paulny61 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome and thank you for sharing especially on (SERO) 👍🏻

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul! Glad to be apart of all these wonderful communities.

@dangreen8490 Жыл бұрын

A little late to the party, but thanks for the video, Jon. This was really helpful.

@Jthumper Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Just snagged a used 2016 for the wife and got it stuck in a foot of heavy wet snow with ice under it on our steep driveway. I let it eat trying to get unstuck, DO NOT do this for a long time as an "AWD OVERHEAT" warning popped up and I could smell the rear axle oil in the air! Knowing how the rear clutches work I was pretty mad at myself and also worried. Dumping all fluids and changing the external Transmision filter on the next nice day. Probably going to use 75w90 on the t case rather than honda 80w

@Scahla 2 жыл бұрын

I got an aftermarket bolt for the oil pan with a magnet. doesnt pick up much but its better than it going back in the motor.

@GrizzlyPath 2 жыл бұрын

I put Honda diff fluid in my Toyota and it gave me +10 HP!

@tamake4492 2 жыл бұрын

🧠

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

LOL 😆

@edwardthompson1312 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

@irfanspace 2 жыл бұрын

same way applies to other Honda vehicles such as Pilot / CRV etc , as you mentioned all you need / washer/ pump/oil .

@bradenb 2 жыл бұрын

I really need to start doing my own maintenance.

@linkdude64 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid!!! Thanks!!!

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

you're very welcome

@ridgeliner23 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment 🙏

@davidwelty9763 3 ай бұрын

I think these instruction will work for my 24 Ridgeline.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 3 ай бұрын

Yep!

@danielperea1566 Жыл бұрын

Pretty cool. In N. Cal they charged $300+ for this service. I wouldn’t call it easy from the looks but definitely worth it

@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын

Oh yikes!!! That’s a lot of money! Once you do this service, it’s much easier to repeat.

@6opekaso221 Жыл бұрын

I don't know why but the fill and drain plugs are super tight initially, but once removed and torqued to 35 ft-lbs they are easy.

@sitiwrattz 2 жыл бұрын

You are strong like Sven Carlson you break hardware.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@mr_dances 2 жыл бұрын

I love how NoLo designs made it eas(ier) to do jobs like this without removing their product. I hate removing airdams in euro cars for simple jobs like this.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

I love it too! Thanks Ian @nolo_designs ! Having to remove the rear plate would make this job tedious.

@lhaaker 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring do you know if you have to remove the no-lo front skid plate for doing the transmission fluid change? I know it says it has cutouts for the engine oil and transfercase but doesn't mention anything about transmission. I recently installed the no-lo front skid plate. But I'm coming due for a bunch of services, oil, trans, transfercase , and rear diff fluid changes.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

@@lhaaker I asked Ian at Nolo designs and he says there is no transmission access with the skid plate

@lhaaker 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring thanks for the quick reply. That's too bad. Not a huge deal though since it's pretty easy to remove.

@admlorenz 6 күн бұрын

👍

@sir_shit_talk_alot Жыл бұрын

Hey jon does the vehicle have to be leveled before changing the diff/trans fluids?

@larryjohns8823 11 ай бұрын

Not recommended, but i hardly use a new crush washer. I put a small dab of non harding form-a-gasket on the old washer. So far, never had any leaks. Why? Because i always forget to get a new washer before draining the oil😮

@jacksonf4 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Does the car need to be jacked up? I have a stock 2021 Passport Elite.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jay! It would help to Jack up the rear. I have a 3.5” lift and 2.5” taller tires and my Jack only lifted it an inch or two, but it made all the difference 😃

@lhaaker 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. Definitely will be using this when mine is due next. Where did you get all of the torque specs from?

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! I don’t turn wrenches too often, so watching the other KZfaq videos I didn’t really have a good idea about what to expect. Lots of skipping in those videos. All those videos did mention 35 ft lbs as well as forum posts. It must be right? I hope 🤣

@lhaaker 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring hope so. I want to find a workshop manual, I'm not sure if that has been posted anywhere. I wrench on my other car more often, but I haven't done it yet on my passport due to needing proper documentation that maintenance is being done so that there isn't issues if I have to use the warranty. Getting some 265x60r18's nitto Terra grappler g2's installed on some KMC Bully's next week. Skid plate will be done next and before I ever do any offroading.

@ronaldobennett671 8 ай бұрын

That fluid is new still

@pkaronis1 2 жыл бұрын

Great Job Jon! Since you are following the 'Severe Duty' schedule, did you change your timing belt at 60k?? Or are you waiting until you get 100k?

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Whoops! No! Thanks for pointing that out!

@garyrogers507 2 жыл бұрын

The Honda 3.5 V/6 still has a timing belt, not a chain like most other manufacturers. I called a Honda dealer to ask what the cost is to replace the belt at 100K miles. They recommend you replace the water pump at the same time when they are in there changing the belt. They give a price quote of $1,700.

@garyrogers507 2 жыл бұрын

I am DIY and thinking about getting a 2019 or newer Pilot. I can't believe Honda wants you to change the rear differential fluid at only 15K. The fluid looked clean coming out. Other manufactures recommend changing the rear differently fluid at 60K or 75K. These vehicles are front wheel drive bias, so the rear wheels don't get used nearly as much. Is the service interval longer for non severe use?

@stuart1270 2 жыл бұрын

1st service 15k miles then every 30k miles unless you do a lot of off road then it's every 15k miles

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t mind it. It’s cheap to change out the fluid. I’ve had the “AWD system hot” warning 7 times in the 100K miles I’ve owned it and the fluid is so clear. I still rather spend $20 and 30 minutes changing out the fluid just in case.

@magskippy 2 жыл бұрын

How often to change rear differential fluid on 2019 Honda passport ? Do you think a woman can do it ( strength needed to loosen bolts) I’m afraid to start something abs then get “screwed “

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re just driving under normal conditions, the maintenance minder will tell you when to change your fluids. You’ll get a warning well in advanced. If you drive in mountainous terrain, the first change should be at 7.5K, and then subsequent changes should be at 15K. The job is relatively easy and straight forward. You can always use a longer bar to break the plugs loose. I was actually just using a short telescoping wrench. You’ll be fine.

@magskippy 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring thanks so much! Great video!!

@SteveForrest-qk8te 3 ай бұрын

Hit the threads with a hammer to shock the treads it will loosen easier

@BernonCars 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta do this on my dad’s Ridgeline. He’s at 82k!

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Does he have the 1st or 2nd Gen ridgeline? The 1st Gen Ridgeline uses VTM-4 fluid. 2nd Gen uses Dual pump ii fluid.

@BernonCars 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring 2nd Gen! 2017

@DirtRoadHymns 2 жыл бұрын

This question may be unrelated to the video but I’m considering this platform (passport, ridgeline, pilot) and I have a couple concerns. Do the ridgeline, passport, pilot have rinsing belts or timing chains? And do they have separate transmission coolers or does the ATF run through the radiator?

@DirtRoadHymns 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, meant to say timing belts or timing chains.

@reyperez3424 2 жыл бұрын

It has timing belt AWD have transmission cooler unless we’re talking about older models which in order to have transmission cooler, you needed the towing package. From personal opinion, 2019 FWD 6AT don’t have transmission cooler only AWD with towing package ( if it has an oem hitch , that’s towing package and it has a sticker too for towing 5000lbs) I bought a transmission cooler for my 2019 6AT pilot, no issues so far , my 2022 Ridgeline has transmission cooler because they have the towing package included in all models but it’s a 9spd AWD. You can see the transmission cooler if it has one by looking below the bumper

@DirtRoadHymns 2 жыл бұрын

Is anyone else concerned about that timing belt? My guess is that when it comes time to replace it will be out of warranty. So the customer will be paying full price for the service. Also, Honda’s engines are interference if I’m not mistaken which makes the possibility of a timing belt failure a very serious matter.

@cko8980 2 жыл бұрын

I used vtm4 fluid is that ok or should I get dual pump fluid and change it right away

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not a mechanic, so I don’t know how bad it might be for your rear diff, but per the instruction manual, you used the wrong fluid.

@ihateshysters Жыл бұрын

I'm getting this done at the Honda dealership, I really hope they know how to do this whole process. I went to them once for some suspension work for my old CR-V and they didn't tighten a bolt and there was a clanking noise when accelerating from a stop. I also had a friend who got an oil change and they didn't tighten the drain plug and all of the oil emptied on his drive home. Maybe I should do this myself.

@joblink100 2 жыл бұрын

That a fact as of 6/28/22 to replace 2 quart rear end fluid $114.00.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Yikes!

@mm8436 2 жыл бұрын

I hate these easy jobs where the hardest thing is to remove a bolt or nut

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Ain’t that the truth! Figuring out how to remove the full plug took a solid 20 minutes. It was so frustrating and it was very important to me to show people that. At the 20 minute mark, I had it, I didn’t care if I broke my telescoping ratchet wrench and I just put a lot of my weight into it until the plug broke free. I couldn’t imagine my 135lb wife breaking that plug free 🤣

@Mark-qw1rg Жыл бұрын

Did you pump oil in until it started to come out?

@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын

Yes

@jonpolokpolok1527 2 жыл бұрын

How’s honda passport realiability?

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

86K miles and nothing needed repair. Brakes are still original. It’s nuts.

@StephenGomez21 2 жыл бұрын

1/2 wrench with 1/2 extension to 3/8 adapter and little more time at the gym 😆 jk ... 😜

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! 🤣🤣 Your comments have been Gold 🏆lately! I seriously need to go to the gym. Been paying for it for the past 5 years and have only gone 4 times, which was in the first month 😞

@StephenGomez21 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonDZ_Adventuring same here man getting hard to turn a door knob at this point. I need to get back at it 🏋‍♂️.. awesome video by the way very informative keep up the awesome work 👍

@charliebelle6693 3 ай бұрын

Every 15K😒

@JonDZ_Adventuring 3 ай бұрын

It's a lot easier than changing your engine oil, and every 15k is three oil changes.

@alcouch331 7 ай бұрын

Pretty rough job. You know the reason mechanics wear vinyl gloves? No, it’s not to keep their fingernails clean. Repeated exposure to engine oils has been linked to cancer. Be safe out there.