JONES ROAD "What The Foundation" Tinted Moisture Balm

JONES ROAD "What The Foundation" Tinted Moisture Balm | WEEKLY WEAR: Oily Skin Review

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Жыл бұрын

Bobbi Brown's new makeup line started off with a controversy... but aside from the drama, is the foundation actually good? Does it hold up on my oily skin? Let's find out; here are the results of my most recent 'weekly wear' ◝( ′ㅂ`)و ̑̑
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★On my face (Day 1):
◇ Jones Road Beauty What The Foundation Tinted Moisture Balm "Light"
◇ MILK MAKEUP Flex Concealer "Fair"
◇ Alleyoop Stack The Odds Compact Palette "Sunkissed"
◇ Nikkia Joy Cosmetics Velvet Finishing Powder
◇ ColourPop Pressed Glitter "Crystal Cave"
◇ about-face Shadowstick "Actual Ambrosia"
◇ Essence The False Lashes Mascara Dramatic Volume Unlimited
◇ The BrowGal Tonya Crooks Eyebrow Pencil "04 Medium Brown"
◇ Persona SwipeUp Brow Gel "Brown"
◇ PATRICK TA Major Glow Lip Shine "She's Expensive"
★On my bod:
◇ Shirt: Goodwill
◇ Necklace & Ring: Gifts
◇ Glasses: Prada (Pearle Vision)
◇ Nails: Cirque Colors "Cool Blast" + Holo Taco "Matte Taco"
★On my face (Day 2):
◇ SKIN INC Supplement Bar Serum Glow Filter
◇ Too Faced Born This Way Multi-Use Sculpting Concealer "Snow"
◇ Alleyoop Stack The Odds Compact Palette "Sassy Pants"
◇ (rest of makeup is same as "Day 1")
★On my bod (Day 2):
◇ Tshirt: HotTopic
◇ Ring: Gift
◇ Glasses: PRADA (Pearle Vision)
◇ Nails: Cirque Colors "Cool Blast" + Holo Taco "Matte Taco"
★On my face (Day 3):
◇ COVER | FX Gripping Primer
◇ MILK MAKEUP Flex Concealer "Fair"
◇ Alleyoop Stack The Odds Compact Palette "Sassy Pants"
◇ Wet n Wild x Care Bears "Sing Out Loud" Lip Gloss
◇ (rest of makeup is same as "Day 1")
★On my bod (Day 3):
◇ Shirt: Target
◇ Necklace & Ring: Gifts
◇ Glasses: Prada (Pearle Vision)
◇ Nails: Live Love Polish "Emerald Throne"
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Пікірлер: 94

@swedishmake-upgeek5650 Жыл бұрын

As someone nearing 50 I looooove this foundation! But I don’t have a lot of skin imperfections to cover up. But I have seriously dry skin, and I get why someone with oily skin wouldn’t like it. I really rub it into my face with my hands, though, like I would skincare. Then it works great. Oh, skip the moisturiser as well, the foundation will do that for you

@bxgal347 5 ай бұрын

I just turned 63 and seen one other KZfaqrs using this and I want it now!!! lol

@KirstysBeautyWorld Жыл бұрын

Ive noticed recently that you've not found many foundations you like... Have you tried more matifying products? You often use glowy and hydrating primers :)

@kaylynnhuddleston5533 Жыл бұрын

She hates everything LOL

@violetann3156 Жыл бұрын

@@kaylynnhuddleston5533 Same. They all promise so much & give so little. It's hard to find a great foundation!

@kimberlystrempek3042 Жыл бұрын

Day 1 I thought it looked better than most others you’ve tested

@joannasprouse1687 Жыл бұрын

You are one of my favorite make up videos because you have real skin like it’s not porcelain smooth. You skin is real and I love that you apply make up and I could see myself loving the things you love because my pores are pronounced. You are beautiful! ❤

@martyjones5750 Жыл бұрын

I waited for the new blush or flush Jones Road product (I don’t have the jar at my fingertips).. I busted out for 2 shades, the natural, and the pink shades.. I detest them both. It smells really funky..I get wet coffee grounds scent, it’s very sticky and tacky. And apart from a sort of glowy look, it did nothing for me. The hype on this product was intense, and it’s just nothing.. a smelly pot of goo.. no Jones Road for me.. Cassie us spot on

@rosielarson4478 Жыл бұрын

Hi🤗. Bobbi brown was the first person to come out with the “natural look”, with lots of browns and beiges and neutrals. It was refreshing after a decade of way too much purple and blue and pink and green and... I believe that’s what she became known for. Then everyone else followed her lead. So good to see you so happy, and I love watching you and “Hotdish” Dan together. He sure loves you!💕💗

@VelvetCelieste Жыл бұрын

But the 80s make up of unblended shadow and striped blush… those were they say. I still hate neutrals in my old age 🤣🤣🤣

@rosielarson4478 Жыл бұрын

You are so right! I don’t blame you!😊

@JennyGlam Жыл бұрын

This foundation is probably a apply with your fingers type of product.

@SabrinaHawk Жыл бұрын

I think you’re right it’s has air of wax and oils in the formula so it likely it needs to be emulsified with your fingers : body heat. So it’s also probably not great with most popular primers on the market

@kimberlystrempek3042 Жыл бұрын

I think the brand is not meant to be layered with other non jones road products A primer and non balmy concealer is too much for the natural brand

@tigriss007 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your review. I've been considering this foundation since my skin has been in flux. I often feel foundations sit on top of my skin and don't blend. I typically have similar skin and wanted some opinions from like skinned individuals. I will wait on Jones Road. I like the idea of it, especially the simplicity, but my skin seems too sensitive now to add another foundation to the trash pile. Hoepfully, my skin will level out or I will come to an understanding with it. Thank you for the content, opinion, demos and research. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

@krista436 Жыл бұрын

I don’t have this but I love the miracle balm! I just don’t think these are for everyone, but it’s my jam. I think I’d like this, but I wear my foundation pretty light and sheer. Seems like anything more is too much for this. This also seems like fingers would be best for application.

@Itsjane17 Жыл бұрын

Wow I love Bobbi brown it has very lightweight formulas so I was interested in this. I am similar to your skin color so your review helped a lot. I will stick to regular Bobbi brown products

@2102mandaod Жыл бұрын

I never bought Bobbi Brown products because they are not cruelty free but I just never thought to rush out for this. It just looked too greasy. I’m glad your review is honest and informative as always Cassie.

@aocroissier Жыл бұрын

The first day, your skin looked glowy and smooth. I reckon it didn't pair well with primers. I'd use it alone with concealer on top, and minimal powder. BTW, Jones Road target is mature skin and minimal/natural make-up users.

@laurastewart4416 Жыл бұрын

Unrelated to the video... but you have the prettiest eye color

@sunnyjim1223 Жыл бұрын

The Jones Road aesthetic is to only use produce where you need it- not at all over. Also, it has lots of natural waxes because it doesn’t have preservatives. It’s just not made to be used by anyone who is a human being or wears makeup like a person. It’s unusable.

@getmoneydrinkicedcapps2627 Жыл бұрын

Not made to be used by anyone who is a human or wears makeup like a person… lmao that made me laugh! I love your choice of words

@anklebitr79 Жыл бұрын

I like that description too

@VelvetCelieste Жыл бұрын

Your description is hilarious thanks for the laught I literally had tear while laughing

@HayleyMarie111 Жыл бұрын

Thank you OMG I COULDNT FIND A PERSON ANYWHERE using light. I'm glad it looks not like the pic on the site. I need to try this. I'm dry skin type.

@rebeccaflynn9314 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant review thank you 😊 I have similar skin but I’m older so it would most likely work the same way for me. I have been trying to decide whether to buy for ages I think that’s the end of that.

@pouncebounce Жыл бұрын

i have this foundation and i really like it. you need to really rub it into your skin with your fingers first and blend it very well. your hand heat really helps to melt the product into your skin. then if i want, i’ll go over it with a brush or a clean dry sponge to make sure there’s no finger streaks. damp sponge will make it patchy and splotchy since the foundation is mostly silicone and oil. i can’t just do all the blending with a brush or the foundation will get caked into it like what happened to you. fingers first really well, then brush or sponge

@christylynn543 Жыл бұрын

I actually don’t think it looked bad at end of day. For some reason I was thinking it may be more oily looking but you weren’t at all. Your skin looks really great right! I was always curious about this foundation but sounds like it may not be a good fit. Def know what you mean w not blending easily and I will def look patchy because I have no patience to blend 😄😄💜💜

@pepperjackey5899 Жыл бұрын

This balm is for mature skin, women that have dry menopausal skin. This balm is not for oily, younger skin from a tutorial I watched on KZfaq.

@DanielleNicoleMakeup Жыл бұрын

I was shocked you wanted to try this but it was fun to watch! 😊

@terrymay2000 Жыл бұрын

I never was crazy about Bobbi Brown cosmetics but I was interested to see how you liked this product. Thank you for your thorough review.

@mltmlt8064 Жыл бұрын

I wanted to love this brand so much because I love Bobbi Brown :(

@Ash-zj9vl Жыл бұрын

face base comes In that to! I have oily skin but love it for the outer parts of my face.from what I've seen this isn't a product for my skin type

@tanyaevers-jordan8624 Жыл бұрын

Cassie, can you a side by side comparison of this Jones Road WTF and the L’Oréal balm foundation? I’d be interested to see if there would be a big difference as they are different price points.

@katies.1343 Жыл бұрын

So bummed you didn’t like this. I really enjoy it, but I think I’m quite a bit older than you (40). That may have something to do with it, as I think it is designed with mature skin in mind. I have combination/oily skin and find this works best for me when I set it with a powder foundation, like ELF Camo Powder or Fit Me Mate powder foundation. Thanks for sharing your experience, as always!

@marie-piertremblay8457 Жыл бұрын

Please try l'Oréal age perfect balm !!! 😍 Love your videos

@francineharris6286 Жыл бұрын

This is not for oily complexions.

@larissahostetter2335 Жыл бұрын

You should try Bobby Brown, it is good. That being said though, I haven't bought anything lately lol. The last thing was the mascara and the face base last year.

@TwilightHarryPotter3 Жыл бұрын

Yay I love that I’m early for once!! Love the reviews as always :)

@PlatinumCyGirl 8 ай бұрын

I think it works on dry skin because of the way it is made. They should have disclosed that too. I wouldn't wear that on my nose but on my cheek area yes! I don't have it though lol.

@tammiemartinez6485 Жыл бұрын

Great review, shoddy product. Thanks but I'll continue to use my W&W tinted hydrator, lol. I can buy at least 6 for the price of this one yet have the product perform. I was also worried about the shade they matched to you, lol. That was crazy. The only product I bought and loved from BB was her gel pot liners. Yrs back I got an amazing deal through QVC (think that's the one she's affiliated with 🤷‍♀️). Anyhoo I recieved 2 pot liners. 1 in black 1 in brown. It came with the little applicator brush. The set also came with one of her mascaras in a mini size. That, I did NOT like. It's sad that she sold her brand because once it was bought they messed up the liners formula. Prior to being reformulated that liner was the only one that would stay put for HRS in my waterline. While I'm not someone who's into spending a lot of money on one product if I don't have to I made an exception for that liner. Thanks for sharing that "get paid" info. That's something I didn't hear/read about once this product came out. Agree. Left a bad taste in my mouth. Thanks for the honest review... 👍

@agnieszkakaczorowska7434 Жыл бұрын

Hey Cassie , do you mind reviewing L’Oréal Paris tinted serum with Hyaluronic acid ? It’s the one that has the dropper, please and thank you :)

@sekichdawn3913 Жыл бұрын

That's my HOLY GRAIL foundation. It's lightweight and leaves smooth airbrushed texture to your skin. It's definitely not full coverage. I'd say more medium but you can build it up. It's definitely reasonably priced and if you buy from Walmart you could always return it if you don't like it. I highly recommend!!!!❤✨❤️✨❤️

@kaylynnhuddleston5533 Жыл бұрын

This is a natural competitor to the boom stick. And, Bobbi loves a natural soft glow. She wants us to embrace. Did you see her models?? Why would you pick this. Also I like you in The Estee Lauder and blur powders like Huda. This is marketed to dry skin and used sparingly. Its a good product for a very specific balm lover low maintained skin. Not a full beat.

@PlatinumCyGirl 8 ай бұрын

Ugh I have that cover FX gripping primer and it isn't dry skin friendly and it pills too. Does well on my oily nose 😮

@KathyEx07 Жыл бұрын

Well the Mascara from Bobbi Brown is awesome, that’s my tip for you to try.

@justanotheryoutuberhello Жыл бұрын

I really like the superstay collection by Maybelline the vinyl lip ink is awesome

@lookitsgrandma Жыл бұрын

I have combo leaning dry skin and couldn't get this stuff to work no matter how I applied it. After multiple attempts, it went in the bin. This and that Ilia serum foundation are the two most frustrating, disappointing foundations I've ever tried. The Jones Road concealer pencil, however, is outstanding.

@WinterIsWelcome Жыл бұрын

Nope, you’re not the only one who was rubbed the wrong way with paying an influencer to advertise on tik tok! I don’t use tik tok, but I did see the video by Meredith and the follow up video Bobbi Brown posted about Meredith using too much of it. Did Meredith use way too much? Absolutely. But that’s kinda what she’s known for… What really got me was the unprofessional response from BB calling her out. This is a woman who has had her own brand for years…surely she should know you can’t please everyone, right?! Not everyone will like the product, nor will everyone use it correctly. It was just unnecessary how BB handled it by mocking Meredith and also how she resorted to advertising paying people to say good things about a product that clearly isn’t being received well (with or without Meredith’s video!) Ok, stepping off my soap box now 😂

@jaime9353 Жыл бұрын

Ok but she didn’t use it as intended…if Meredith used the foundation correctly and gave a review based on that Bobbi Brown wouldn’t have clapped back…you have to understand that this is her BUSINESS her livelihood, her good name..a product she believes in …a company she has worked to build for years… as many followers that Meredith has she didn’t give it a fair shot. Meredith is an influencer…BB is a MUA. It’s business…

@WinterIsWelcome Жыл бұрын

@@jaime9353 I get what you’re saying, but as a business person BB would know she can’t please everyone. What is BB going to do? Go after every single person who doesn’t use it correctly or who doesn’t like it? Meredith isn’t the only influencer with tons of followers who tried this. The fact that Meredith used more than recommended brought attention to the product more-the saying there’s no such thing as bad press applies here. People then flocked to get the product because of the controversy and her business was booming…so much so that even Cassie had a long wait to get her shade. All that publicity benefited BB until more people reviewed the product and hated it. There are more negative reviews out there from folks who tried it and think it’s a shoddy product. Hence why I suspect BB is telling folks she’ll pay for a positive review. BB’s response to Meredith ended up hurting her in the end. People simply don’t like this product. If she wants to save her livelihood, she should start by making better quality products.

@jaime9353 Жыл бұрын

@@WinterIsWelcome I seen mixed reviews..some people liked it some didn’t but Meredith used the whole jar on her face…I don’t think BB got upset at any of those other reviews because she understands make up isn’t one size fits all thing but she was definitely annoyed by Meredith’s intentional misuse I think. Good point though she probably did get lots of sales out of all the controversy. They both learned a lesson from this hopefully. 😉

@dezinechic Жыл бұрын

nah never bought anything from bb. i know she said she hated anything with shimmer and her shimmer bricks were her #1 selling products. then i would see her on the home shopping channels and she just never seemed excited unlike with the ads for the jr brand shes cheesin all the time. then i found an msn or nyt article on how she wasnt really into the products that were being pushed after her company was bought out. i was wondering about this balm foundation but me thinks ill pass on it. thanks hun.

@iwilson6221 Жыл бұрын

I am shocked that you wanted to review this, not many have liked it. If you haven’t review it yet, will you please review the L’Oréal age perfect 4 in 1 balm? It sounds like a similar product to the WTF and the Danesa M yummy skin. But at a reasonable, affordable price point.

@anklebitr79 Жыл бұрын

Even if the product has been out for a while, I appreciate later reviews. I have oily skin that just eats up foundation. I'm pretty sure this one wouldn't work for me either.

@lauralovesbeauty397 Жыл бұрын

Such a brave lady you are for trying this stuff.. It reminds me of peanut butter! Lol.. I can only see this looking good on dry skin with no imperfections because it doesn't cover anything...so its like what's the point?? It looks heavy and sticky and pore clogging. 🤔..

@pamelap.144 Жыл бұрын

I've never heard of this, it's interesting-ish. Thank you for the review! Your voice is quite mellow today. Also have you tried "warming it up" before application? Like putting it on the back of your hand and rubbing it around to losen it up type of application.

@sarahp8937 Жыл бұрын

I remember at least one Bobbi Brown review you did, a foundation. Pretty sure it was one of the best foundations you tried..something skin?

@kimc555 Жыл бұрын

The foundation brushes after 1 use …. Looked like they had been used for a month!

@sekichdawn3913 Жыл бұрын

Meredith applying foundation is hysterical.....just can't with her.😂😂😂😂

@ktyzz Жыл бұрын

Not sold on it. Looks like it's got a yellow cast to it

@ilovenaruto555 Жыл бұрын

Ooo I'm here so fast today. Love that.

@kathleensmith3772 Жыл бұрын

Wow Cassie you look so well, your skin looks amazing...stay in your happy place it's great to see you looking and sounding so happy girl x

@sasasc6986 Жыл бұрын

Please try the new Haus Lab foundation!!!!

@Angiebobandi Жыл бұрын

This one definitely looks like it sits on top of the skin. Fenty bb cream did the same thing for me.

@terrasmiley7076 Жыл бұрын

CASSIE...HONEST, LOVELY, LOGICAL...MY FAVORITE MINNESOTA GIRL!!!🥰😘

@pjnash01 Жыл бұрын

I was curious about this product. Thanks for the review Cassie! Enjoy your weekend!

@TheSrmahjabin Жыл бұрын

I've so rarely seen a good review of this, even by dry skin people. People prefer a tinted moisturiser even that this. Someone said the level of coverage and patchiness means they'd rather not wear anything. Not worth the money imo.

@lyndamartin5045 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos Can you try a full face of Farmaci Thanks

@VelvetCelieste Жыл бұрын

Some creators need making fun of and Meredith is one imo I don’t like 🤣🤣❤️

@cellphone3041 Жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for her skin 😬😁

@concreteangle4122 Жыл бұрын

You do not know how to use it.

@jjennyj77 Жыл бұрын

I don’t have interest in this product but I love your weekly wears so I’ll watch any kind of weekly wear lol

@justinewallis-leggett1015 Жыл бұрын

Pros: Nostalgia. Because this is screaming dream matte mousse

@eurasiansensation1 Жыл бұрын

I think a pro is that it looks really nice on camera

@mistylowe9100 Жыл бұрын

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@allessandmegchannel Жыл бұрын

So it’s “scummy” to promote her product on Tiktok but it’s not scummy for youtubers to do sponsored videos? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@larissahostetter2335 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think this foundation was on Tiktok and we all know if it trends on there most of us will never get to try that product, it will be sold out forever. lol Damn Tiktok.

@kimbasciano_ Жыл бұрын

Definitely going to skip this one because I’m sooo oily and sweaty

@judibond904 Жыл бұрын

I turn off your KZfaq every time you say ‘like said”. I come back and repeat the process.

@jelatinosa Жыл бұрын

Lol, I didn't realize how much she says it till I read a comment complaining about it, and now I can't un-hear it. The comment claimed she started saying it a lot lately, but I believe she's always said it because the first time I heard it years ago I thought it was weird. But yeah, I definitely notice it *every time* now.

@samanthafriend1925 Жыл бұрын

Oh no I have heard so many bad things about this.

@chrisharvey4251 Жыл бұрын

I did not like it at all! So greasy and smelly.

@Fauziia.a Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing, I have combination dry skin and it still didn’t work, even on my dry skin areas I found it too greasy

@jaime9353 Жыл бұрын

This looks like it would work best on dry exfoliated skin….it’s too emollient for certain skin types. As for the advertising lots of brands do this quietly via private messaging and emails..at least they aren’t being sneaky about it. It’s out there for everyone and not just popular/famous influencers/people who get PR. They aren’t telling people to lie. If you enjoy the product get paid …if you lie just to get money well that’s on you not BB.

@pnevlud 2 ай бұрын

I would have thought fair for you

@arirosetomas2738 Жыл бұрын

Whoever said that you wear too much foundation, knows absolutely bunk. Your skin looks luminous. You don’t and have never had a foundation that looked caked on loveyour channel. Stay blessed.

@acalhoun7690 Жыл бұрын

Incorrect

@bxgal347 5 ай бұрын

It’s prob not good for oily skinned gals and u probably put too much. I think it looked great on your skin

@aprilmaldo5652 Жыл бұрын

I can’t help but think the reason you no longer list the shade range as a pro/con is because of the comment I crossposted on a few of your previous videos. If that’s the case, thank you for listening to constructive feedback!

@jennyamato498 Жыл бұрын

Curious what your comment was?

@aprilmaldo5652 Жыл бұрын

@@jennyamato498 below It doesn't feel right that you always list the shade range as a con, especially if it doesn't affect you. Here's why: 1. Not all shades would result in the same final product. It's possible the formula would be compromised with more/less pigment. Some brands want to preserve their reputation for putting out great product, and won't if the result isn't 100% satisfactory across all shades. 2. Brands test the market. Sometimes putting out a limited line makes sense to see if it's successful and/or there's a demand for more. Extending a full line at launch is risky and becomes a deficit if they have to pull back. It's smart business. 3. Arm swatches (specifically these), it makes sense to have them NOT match the arm, which sounds a bit strange, but if they did match, you wouldn't be able to see them as boldly. This is done deliberately to give the consumer an idea of the light/med/deep RANGE, not to show matches. No shade, but I thought it was worth sharing since you make it a part of your final review every time. It seems you're trying to preach the 'let's be all inclusive', which I support, but sometimes there are reasons and it's not always a political issue. I do think it's worth sharing the available ranges, but making it a pro/con seems misleading unless the brand has addressed it.

@acalhoun7690 Жыл бұрын

Excellent and insightful analysis !