Jordan Peterson On Buddha

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Clash of Ideas

7 жыл бұрын

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Professor of psychology Dr. Jordan B Peterson describe the parallels with the stories of the development of the Buddha from childhood to early adulthood, using the archetypal schema.
Full Length Video: 2017 Maps of Meaning 10: Genesis and the Buddha
Jordan Bernt Peterson is a Canadian clinical psychologist, cultural critic, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are the psychology of religious and ideological belief, and the assessment and improvement of personality and performance.
He earned a degree in political science in 1982 and a degree in psychology in 1984, both from the University of Alberta, and his Ph.D. in clinical psychology from McGill University in 1991. He remained at McGill as a post-doctoral fellow for two years before moving to Massachusetts, where he worked as an assistant and an associate professor in the psychology department at Harvard University. In 1997, he moved to the University of Toronto as a full professor.
Dr. Jordan B Peterson has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short-order cook, beekeeper, oil derrick bit re-tipper, plywood mill labourer and railway line worker. He’s taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and businessmen, consulted for the UN Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development, helped his clinical clients manage depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety, and schizophrenia, served as an advisor to senior partners of major Canadian law firms, identified thousands of promising entrepreneurs on six different continents, and lectured extensively in North America and Europe.
He has flown a hammer-head roll in a carbon-fiber stunt plane, piloted a mahogany racing sailboat around Alcatraz Island, explored an Arizona meteorite crater with a group of astronauts, built a Native American Long-House on the upper floor of his Toronto home, and been inducted into the coastal Pacific Kwakwaka’wakw tribe.
With his students and colleagues, Dr. Peterson has published more than a hundred scientific papers, transforming the modern understanding of personality, and revolutionized the psychology of religion with his now-classic book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. As a Harvard professor, he was nominated for the prestigious Levinson Teaching Prize, and is regarded by his current University of Toronto students as one of three truly life-changing teachers.

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@ClashofIdeas
@ClashofIdeas 6 жыл бұрын
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@readingRoom100
@readingRoom100 6 жыл бұрын
Clash of Ideas Lol the snub against the Chinese permeates the very primitive soul and consciousness of the "free world"
@hjarnansjarn5969
@hjarnansjarn5969 5 жыл бұрын
I drink 1 cup at the same instance every day. Generally.
@kostailijev7489
@kostailijev7489 5 жыл бұрын
--friction in sex better still.
@kostailijev7489
@kostailijev7489 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone can read a text...
@terrykotaku223
@terrykotaku223 5 жыл бұрын
Coffee takes away Calcium out of the body. Stupid Westerners
@jjj0309
@jjj0309 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Buddhist from Korea and I found zero problem or contradiction from this lecture, everything he said was truth. Yet I found bunch of western 'Buddhists' got offended and complaining here in comment section. Buddha's main teaching is control your emotions and be a master of your emotion, and most of all don't get offended. If you somehow get offended, no matter how it's justifiable and you have all the rights to be offended; you are immature. And Buddha said there are many ways to the road to the truth, but all leads to one destination that is the truth and enlightenment. Peterson's lecture is fine, you must get a grip and learn from Buddha's teaching rather than arguing about which way is right. You are talking about Buddha while does not trying to follow his teaching.
@DennisMoore664
@DennisMoore664 5 жыл бұрын
Nice - thank you!
@MikkoHere
@MikkoHere 5 жыл бұрын
Dear JJJ thanks cutting to the heart of it!
@xlgeegand1444
@xlgeegand1444 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the Zen Buddhists way of teaching the world? Alan watts somewhat described Zen as surprise or shock. All I'm trying to say is that sometimes you need to see the homeless guy shitting in the street so that you can find peace within your own suffering.
@dhruvkashyap8024
@dhruvkashyap8024 5 жыл бұрын
Buddhism still exists in Korea. I thought Missionaries had taken over.
@anuruddhaariyarathna3254
@anuruddhaariyarathna3254 5 жыл бұрын
I myself also a Buddhist and ..this lecture is true as far as my knowledge
@shalithabandara7970
@shalithabandara7970 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a buddhist from srilanka and always love to listen this briliant man Jordan Peterson. He is 100% right. Every buddist should watch not only this but his all videos. We must protect this brilliant mind. Love and Respect you sir. Keep up.
@viktor-reznov
@viktor-reznov 2 жыл бұрын
Why is that weird? A buddhist from Srilanka on youtube...
@JohnWick-ob2cp
@JohnWick-ob2cp 2 жыл бұрын
Well yes everything except the "God'' part since there's no God or godly figure in Buddhism. But if the Gods just mean powerful deities then I'm fine with it
@gmy33
@gmy33 2 жыл бұрын
@@viktor-reznov i guess budhists are people too like christians
@emilstorgaard8878
@emilstorgaard8878 Жыл бұрын
I think Jordan P is Buhda - he is the awakened, who sees the World as it is and teaches people in the moral principles and do guidance on how to tackle life and sufflering.
@isurumw6119
@isurumw6119 Жыл бұрын
@@emilstorgaard8878 🤡
@Awen24
@Awen24 5 жыл бұрын
Of course, the real question here is... Why does Jordan Peterson have a massive MSI Gaming Laptop?
@fionnmcglacken35
@fionnmcglacken35 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@SeraphimVolker
@SeraphimVolker 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is secretly Dream. He uses a voice changer when he plays as Dream.
@touf48
@touf48 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he liked the dragon
@NBT2469
@NBT2469 2 жыл бұрын
That would be bussin!
@TheRantingCabbie
@TheRantingCabbie 5 жыл бұрын
So now days, the smart phone and social media is the paradise. But when one looks up from it and encounters a different idea face to face, they're offended and run back to the comfort of social media.
@ChristopherGray00
@ChristopherGray00 5 жыл бұрын
which could very well explain the extreme influx of SJW's in this current generation, children who were sheltered in a confined home with electronics, with all forms of media being censored by their parents, they grew up without dealing with bad things, therefore they had not developed any type of mental resilience to the outside world, now they are pushing "hate speech" laws, they want to bubble in the rest of the world just like they were bubbled in as children. this is what happens when you shelter your children too much.
@TheRantingCabbie
@TheRantingCabbie 5 жыл бұрын
@Christopher Gray I've been thinking the same thing all this time. They've grown up with electronics in the tech age with that LED screen burned into their conscience creating a sheltered happy place. Except I was thinking along the lines of not so much censored content, but the children of say around 12 yrs. The ones who have access to all content without supervision and are exposed to the negativity and bad things they find on line and can't logically decipher things and it leads to cognitive dissonance from sensory overload. Or we're both on to something. They grow up in the electronics age in a sheltered bubble, but once they're old enough to have unfettered access to the web, they find horrible things on line and that bubble now has a hole in it and it shatters their happy place.
@ChristopherGray00
@ChristopherGray00 5 жыл бұрын
+TheRantingCabby I disagree, i don't think technology is a cause of sheltering, but i do think it assists sheltering, i think overall censorship is a very bad thing, my point was that these people have grown up in thier own bubble where everything is happy go lucky, they were censored from all the bad things in life, so they never got used to dealing with negative things, to us a minor inconvience of something negative could mean a drastic overload of negativity to someone who was sheltered, it offends them alot more than it offends us, we are more adapt to it, thus the reason they try to make the rest of the world a censored bubble, because they don't want to adapt, they don't want to gain mental strength, they just want to cower and run from everything bad in the world and try to push it away instead of facing it head on and dealing with it.
@alhaquin
@alhaquin 5 жыл бұрын
Comfort is always going to be a condition that people prefer because it's obviously a favorable desire. It's a habit too, and people are creatures of habits. You could say that a Mongoloid living in the dry mountains of Karakorum would find more comfort in playing his Morin Khuur with a bunch of his friends around a circle of fire in the middle of the night, than he would be speaking with random people at the local food market. But you're right, the ease of accessibility to technology has partly made people lazy and it can, in a very paradoxical morbid sort of way, degenerate people.
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 5 жыл бұрын
I think for the most part unless you grow up in the ghetto or in a country in the time of war you are sheltered so that is a significant amount of people in the modern world. I removed my television from my home but then discovered i have this smartphone device that i take with me literally everywhere so i do think this has become a form of a bubble that shields us from everyday life or in essence becomes an idol for us that we worship because we give it all of our time.
@muralin239
@muralin239 6 жыл бұрын
All he says is "Be responsible and become better version of yourself", Listening to him motivates me in a very pragmatic manner.
@nik8099
@nik8099 3 жыл бұрын
He says this but doesn't do this himself. He is a cult leader.
@282_daffarabbani3
@282_daffarabbani3 3 жыл бұрын
@@nik8099 elaborate
@wilhelmmischief8416
@wilhelmmischief8416 Жыл бұрын
@@nik8099 I see comments from people who say they are buddhists and love this lecture. For one, there was no mention of Nirvana (a state of perfect psychological maturity). It was just a story of the 3 signs. These tales do not represent the story Peterson told. They are a metaphor for how we are all raised in a perpetual cycle of unreality unless we choose to change that by doing contemplative practices, developing insight and being moral (respecting everyone and everything). Peterson's argument is that this is reality. He is not a deep thinker and does not understand buddhism. The 3 signs are what people like him think reality is. Peterson was owned by the Buddha here because he does not understand spirituality or spiritual practice. He thinks samsara is truth. He thinks he speaks truth. He is not a prophet and he is not a master of his own psychological makeup. He acts like an immature child who is trying to create his own "sensual palace" as a grown man because he does not understand that real wisdom comes from letting go, not proving... I also know that I am not enlightened and should not be as disrespectful of Peterson as I am ... He is pretty basic though
@marcusfossa6695
@marcusfossa6695 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Jordan do more talks on Buddhism. He covered the Buddha's renunciation story quite well, but the story of his search is just as rich, and then there is the Buddha's teaching, which is incredibly profound and relevant for human beings. I'm not a Buddhist, but I am absolutely blown away by how profound and deep the Buddha's teachings are.
@voyski
@voyski Жыл бұрын
Search for Ajahn Brahm.
@livedwisdom9854
@livedwisdom9854 6 жыл бұрын
Being a student of Buddhism, I think Peterson does an amicable job in using Buddha's story as a reasoning metaphor. Well done!
@billybutcher6504
@billybutcher6504 2 жыл бұрын
Read Buddha and his Dhamma by DR BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR.
@JohnDoe-iu5xi
@JohnDoe-iu5xi 5 жыл бұрын
love this guy. he ties in concepts so beautifully. it's a joy to read or hear a man describe his thoughts so well.
@martinrheaume5393
@martinrheaume5393 6 жыл бұрын
Sooo, this is the guy the New York Times thinks is the Devil or whatever?
@redpenguin111
@redpenguin111 6 жыл бұрын
What article did you get that idea from? It'd be a good satirical read.
@starman721
@starman721 6 жыл бұрын
Just google. Pretty easy. www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-jordan-peterson-charlatans.html www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html
@redpenguin111
@redpenguin111 6 жыл бұрын
thanks mboy
@redpenguin111
@redpenguin111 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems to be written in a way where they just 1. Strawman and then 2. Don't even explain why his side is objectively bad and just expect you to hate him
@BigBFC
@BigBFC 6 жыл бұрын
Martin Rheaume leftards just being leftards kkkk
@Wolfsheim23
@Wolfsheim23 6 жыл бұрын
Siddhartha's First lesson. The Middle Way. The path between all extremes. The center line of the Yin Yang. We need both Yin and Yang to live a fulfilling life.
@sitarainbow8837
@sitarainbow8837 6 жыл бұрын
SWolven - Yeah, chasing only Light while seeking to eliminate all darkness is actually unbalanced. It always leaves us feeling like a failure since it can't be done. Who would want to live in a realm where the sun never set? Balance of Light & dark is perfect in the yin-yang. Balance could then be a/the major aspect of The Middle Way. ~♥~
@DennisMoore664
@DennisMoore664 5 жыл бұрын
The Middle Way is a wonderful place to strive to reach (should that be your road this time around), but we must be willing to travel in or even fully embrace the darkness or light from time to time for the knowledge and self-awareness it can bring. Not saying one should go out of their way to be baddy or goody as there are those for whom that is their journey in this life and they don't need some amateur trying to show them how it's done. The true path through each incarnation is the one we travel with open eyes and an honest heart that helps us and the Universe learn a little something more about ourselves. But don't worry. It will happen whether you want it to or not - often without you even realizing it's happening. That's part of the beauty of this whole mess. Ain't it cool?
@TheCoffeeNut711
@TheCoffeeNut711 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like hogwash to me
@grimgrimey
@grimgrimey 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCoffeeNut711 it would sound nutty to an untrained mind
@uvinme
@uvinme 4 жыл бұрын
The middle path is true. keeping it balanced but that ying yang stuff is not theravada buddhism. theravada buddhism has the original scripts and teachings from the Buddha and the rest is by monks who travelled to other countries and changed the teachings to their benefit.
@godofdreamzzz
@godofdreamzzz 4 жыл бұрын
I’m Buddhist and I’ve always loved Christianity and admired how ppl were getting the same message I got in a different method. As you go through the rest of the story and Christian story you get essentially the same message. I wish modern Christians took it more seriously and practiced peace more in western society.
@matthew6335
@matthew6335 4 жыл бұрын
No dude they aren't the same, budha left his newborn baby and wife's just so that he can sit on tree for years!?? WTF is that? Leaving your wife's like she is nothing
@matthew6335
@matthew6335 3 жыл бұрын
@Bernard de Fontaines well so do Christianity in that matters is anti natural humanism. Loving GOD is not natural, i guess the difference is Christian deal with the problems while the other detach from it
@DipayanPyne94
@DipayanPyne94 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthew6335 First of all, that story is probably not true. Even if it is, here's how people should look at it. When he left, he wasn't the Buddha. He was just an Ordinary Person. He was a Victim of Depression. That doesn't mean that what he did was Right. He should not have done that. But, can we change History ? Nope. We can't ... Also, I don't understand what you mean by 'Christian deals with the problem while the other detaches from it'. If that is a reference to Buddhist 'Non Attachment', you have no idea what you are talking about ...
@BarbarianKing2964
@BarbarianKing2964 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthew6335 lmao cope harder matthew
@veerswami7175
@veerswami7175 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthew6335 lol predatory converting guy
@michaelmcgarrity3092
@michaelmcgarrity3092 6 жыл бұрын
I practiced Buddhism for a while. What I liked about it was: it didn't give any solid answers only tools to find them. I prefer Japanese Zen, it really makes people responsible. Sikhism is strong on personal responsibility within a community.
@kuddybeef777
@kuddybeef777 2 жыл бұрын
I found Zen Buddhism very appealing and freeing yet it seems to lack substance sometimes..
@tsurugi5
@tsurugi5 Жыл бұрын
zen is good if done correctly but their teaching on being direct and beyond words obviously has a price, it creates many misunderstandings and could lead to degeneration (see how many 'masters' are involved in petty things, polemics, sexual scandals,alcoholism, etc) the chinese or other sects are better on this subject because they still keep the vinaya code unlike the japanese
@CB-sn4xh
@CB-sn4xh Жыл бұрын
Sikhism is very Revolutionary..Guru Nanak was the Prophet of the Future..many Buddhist sages see Him as a Buddha..look into His Shabads, He shows us the Keys to the Ultimate...🙏
@jurmilotay6118
@jurmilotay6118 Жыл бұрын
Buddha said find your own path...dont follow me blindly
@Garak1962
@Garak1962 6 жыл бұрын
And here we have a major reason, why Buddhism is spiritually so much more attractive for enlightened Westerners than the Jewish Christian equivalent. In the Buddha narrative the striving for knowledge and the subsequent leaving of paradise is an act of heroism. In the Genesis narrative the same thing is the "Original Sin".
@rihhard1072
@rihhard1072 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't Nibbana akin to the Kingdom of Heaven though ?
@Kelvin006
@Kelvin006 6 жыл бұрын
"Different" would be a massive understatement of an answer to your question. But yes, they are different.. In the same way a blown out candle is different from a banquet party.
@isaacjones748
@isaacjones748 6 жыл бұрын
I guess it's more down to personal interpretation. Catholics for example believe that the original sin was a bad thing, but if we are born in sin is it really pure evil? Like pretty much everything else the answer is probably yes and no. The way I see the story of Adam and Eve the "Original Sin" was always meant to happen, otherwise man would have stayed an animal forever. Buddhism definitely does the job of portraying it in a positive light better, but I think that the Christian story at the core is the same. If man never attained knowledge of good and evil (therefore God as an extension of that), then humans would never have had the option to CHOOSE devotion to God instead of blindly following like a *sheep* Reference to the bible passage "The Blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" meaning that choices consciously made are more important and meaningful than those you are born into. I feel like that passage does well to support my quickly thought out argument
@markbatton9434
@markbatton9434 6 жыл бұрын
I guess this would be the case, if you believe there is no worth in the foundational beliefs of your own civilization. You may find a way to explain things that doesn't bring a significant amount of self reflection. But in the way of history, you are no better off understanding your ancestors unless they too were Buddhists. (educated opinion) The "original sin" was when the humans in the "garden" (nature). Ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (they ate some DMT containing substance that resulted in consciousness) And became aware and fearful. This fear is what guided their actions, not thought, fear. Many have been the sins of those consumed by fear of mortality and the future. So what Buddhist principle is so superior in teaching this? Is it the first lesson? That consciousness comes at a price?
@markbatton9434
@markbatton9434 6 жыл бұрын
It is the son's place to revivify his father, not abandon him.
@elsahelgason
@elsahelgason 5 жыл бұрын
I think today’s is better for me to listening to the professor to talk, and learn more about what I can do or not. Thank you so much and much love xoxoxo
@ranujawickramaratna3597
@ranujawickramaratna3597 Жыл бұрын
A Sri Lankan Buddhist Here. I really appreciate this.
@jeanetteharold5991
@jeanetteharold5991 4 жыл бұрын
I would love nothing more than to experience taking a class by Jordan Peterson.
@RaytheGrayt
@RaytheGrayt 5 жыл бұрын
JP was spot on. A very intellectual person. When I read more and more of buddhism, found all of the terms, and learned the Buddha's knowledge it literally made me cry, of how truthful it was. But at the same time braver.
@nik8099
@nik8099 3 жыл бұрын
I am afraid you have fallen for a false prophet. This guy hasn't even meditated.
@safwanmuhammed1000
@safwanmuhammed1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@nik8099 You are damn right bro, its a wonder many people trust this idiot
@BarbarianKing2964
@BarbarianKing2964 2 жыл бұрын
@@nik8099 who is the real prophet?
@redzodiac
@redzodiac 8 ай бұрын
​@@nik8099ha?
@redzodiac
@redzodiac 8 ай бұрын
​@@nik8099don't propagate your religious propaganda everywhere
@urbantartcollective7010
@urbantartcollective7010 5 жыл бұрын
I walked into a Meditation class 25 yrs ago, best thing i ever did, great videos Mr Peterson Thank you
@proudatheist2042
@proudatheist2042 2 жыл бұрын
I take it you were able to figure out how to meditate correctly since that time?
@xtop23
@xtop23 6 жыл бұрын
bizarre to see how many people try to find any lever, no matter how absurd, to try and cut this fella down. I honestly didnt find any of this lecture particularly contentious. even if you dislike his usage of buddha as a foil, most of what I heard seemed pretty common-sensical. similarly, to attack the guy because he "uses too many words"... and "word salad"... et al, is petty in the extreme. I didnt view it as repeating the same thing over and over again simply utilizing different metaphors. personally, I felt that his method of making a point from a couple of different angles was extremely effective as a means of instruction.
@markangelquiatchon1219
@markangelquiatchon1219 5 жыл бұрын
@thomas seven instinctively dislike him, the number of like and dislike doesn't show that.
@linusverclyte4988
@linusverclyte4988 5 жыл бұрын
He just rehashes what's in every book on buddhism. In order to be contentious he would have to say something that is actually original: he just repeats what he read and uses it to go completely off-topic and ride his christian obsession to death. His analogies are superficial at best but then again he has no real interest in buddhism given he's found his favourite mythology already. In truth there are way more glaring differences between christianity and buddhism than there are similarities. E.g. theism vs atheism and the soul vs non-ego.
@markangelquiatchon1219
@markangelquiatchon1219 5 жыл бұрын
@thomas seven youtube is leftist turf!! Sensoring everything they dont want, so whats your point?
@cornbreadisbetterthanpizza6866
@cornbreadisbetterthanpizza6866 5 жыл бұрын
@@linusverclyte4988 Other than his fixation on the "Order out of chaos" I don't follow how he repeats himself over and over. What do you mean by "His analogies are superficial at best"? Also, repeating the same dull points everyone has already made like "Buddism is an Atheist religion" would have not been original either, so how is that an alternative? I do know Peterson has his faults, like how he falls so often into his complaints about the modern school system (which he has made decent points about, but not why I would be interested in watching his videos). However, I don't understand why you believe that he repeats the same ideas to such a significant degree.
@9charlie84
@9charlie84 5 жыл бұрын
xtop23 creates understanding, maybe the most important.
@joelcarver8932
@joelcarver8932 6 жыл бұрын
Buddha and Marcus Aurelius are so alike in certain ways. The idea that we should do our best virtuously and through wisdom to create the best life is prevalent in both. I would argue that the methods may differ as Buddha would push for concentration, and Aurelius would push for making hard decisions with a strictness on intent are what separate them, they are both trying to achieve the same goal....which is ultimately what's best for people. But you don't even need these two for true wisdom, those of us who grew up with Mr. Rogers know that "Knowing that we can be loved exactly as we are gives us all the best opportunity for growing into the healthiest of people."
@constipatedbowels3473
@constipatedbowels3473 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully stated....just one . minute correction, buddha wld push for "mindfulness" rather than concentration....as the concentration dat z mentioned by Buddha z more of a natural outcome of a fully mindful undistracted mind,not a forced one....which z very much analogous to what Seneca or Marcus Aurelius wld say about work ethics,to attend to whatever one has to in a optimally undistracted way .... Stoicism z a great wisdom tradition,however it has very little to contribute to the knowledge of higher states of consciousness . !!..
@dhyanmukta
@dhyanmukta 6 жыл бұрын
I heard it was a high Brahmin priest who brought the message and he was restrained to the royal palace. I have never heard a sacred story past in this way and never was brought so quickly to the point in my mind he so abruptly stings in at the end. Loved it.
@spider-maninside5401
@spider-maninside5401 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yours one is right. It was not a angel
@dhyanmukta
@dhyanmukta 3 жыл бұрын
@@spider-maninside5401 💫
@garyverstick1620
@garyverstick1620 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve read many accounts of the Buddha story and never ran across one with an ‘angel’ or messenger of god… must be a Christian version.
@wakingupfrom
@wakingupfrom 5 жыл бұрын
never get tired of hearing this story.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 6 жыл бұрын
What a great lesson! I am not as well versed in the Buddha as the Eden story and this was well considered
@dominiknowaczyk9633
@dominiknowaczyk9633 Жыл бұрын
As a Buddhist, who grew up Christian I actually love how Peterson is trying to find similarities between religions and find some useful references who can work for people. This is where religion should be heading to, it shouldn't be about belief, but about bettering your life here and now with religious teachings without any hope for reward.
@no-ic5gw
@no-ic5gw 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 24 years old and I'm that kid that he was describing. The timid, depressed one that never broke any rules. It scares me hearing stuff like this because I'm not sure if I'm fucked up for life, doomed to be anxious and unsuccessful.
@DailycabooseFilms
@DailycabooseFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Hope your doing good bro.
@no-ic5gw
@no-ic5gw 3 жыл бұрын
@@DailycabooseFilms getting better slowly. I forgot I made this comment. I've been seeing a therapist.
@Lucas_Simoni
@Lucas_Simoni 2 жыл бұрын
You are already taking the first step bro, which is to be aware of it. Most people go through life without being aware and wanting to change. Just that will guarantee that eventually you will get better, not being fatalistic makes sure that there is always space for actions. Otherwise we just don't even try, which perpetuates it.
@dilipaweeratunga
@dilipaweeratunga Жыл бұрын
Nope your current state is not permanant . You can always change
@no-ic5gw
@no-ic5gw Жыл бұрын
@@dilipaweeratunga I'm much better now. But I'll give you some advice. Escape jordan peterson, he is not helping you. Look up critiques on him please. I had to clean a lot of junk from my head to get here and some of it was from him.
@HumanCreation01
@HumanCreation01 4 жыл бұрын
His delivery of the story is so amusing:)
@giventofly9
@giventofly9 3 жыл бұрын
I wish this lecture would continue, the really interesting part is as he said the "coming back" to paradise. There's interesting parallels between the buddha's eightfold novel path and JP rules for life.
@Mizukageize
@Mizukageize 5 жыл бұрын
As a buddhist, I wholehearthedly agree with Petersons description of Buddhas story. Just the bible bits seemed a little bit of stretch.
@westleybabin6870
@westleybabin6870 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite possible that he's Just trying to understand it by relating it to what he and likely his audience(especially a western audience) knows. I'm also Buddhist, and so far jordon Pederson doesn't strike me as someone who performs mental gymnastics to form a conclusion. He seems quite open minded.
@markemerson8399
@markemerson8399 5 жыл бұрын
Prof Peterson addressed the topic with the respect that a true scholar should extend.
@theinngu5560
@theinngu5560 2 жыл бұрын
The real Buddhism is the practice of it …practised properly and to its end ..almost definitely requiring a teacher who is there, and takes one beyond every kind of suffering….it takes effort but the results are incredible
@Wolfsheim23
@Wolfsheim23 6 жыл бұрын
Little Buddha was a movie that really influenced my life ever since seeing it. It's an amazing film in so many ways. Esp if you watch it and Devil's Advocate back to back. The similarities are astonishing and really clicks within in so many ways.
@themacocko6311
@themacocko6311 2 жыл бұрын
Devil's Advocate with Al Pacino? That one?
@Wolfsheim23
@Wolfsheim23 2 жыл бұрын
@@themacocko6311 Yep.. both had Keanu Reeves dealing with the devil/mara, both had to battle their own ego. Both devils used the same ultimate tactic of appealing to the ego. It's wild how similar they are.
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf 2 жыл бұрын
Little Buddha is underrated. It's a gem.
@gregzen7896
@gregzen7896 8 ай бұрын
Intriguing! What order would you suggest watching them?
@Wolfsheim23
@Wolfsheim23 8 ай бұрын
@@gregzen7896 Little Buddha then DA.
@rechitsapivo
@rechitsapivo 6 жыл бұрын
The answer is.... 42
@dionisakissakis2297
@dionisakissakis2297 5 жыл бұрын
no no no the answer is 47
@DennisMoore664
@DennisMoore664 5 жыл бұрын
Just a shame the question and the answer don't match. How like life.
@taliakellegg5978
@taliakellegg5978 5 жыл бұрын
it's true nobody's going to find what they're looking for when they ask what's the meaning of life like it doesn't mean anything and the purpose is to have offspring
@nik8099
@nik8099 3 жыл бұрын
@@taliakellegg5978 'and the purpose is to have offspring.' Some people, especially homosexuals don't want offspring.
@deepthoughts1153
@deepthoughts1153 6 жыл бұрын
Peterson has said compassion should be reserved for children, the sick, and the elderly. Buddha said, “Have compassion for all beings, rich and poor alike; each has their suffering."
@rolandguilford8301
@rolandguilford8301 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Sagacious Being. Did Peterson actually say compassion should be exclusively reserved for children, the sick & elderly? People often miss quote him. I'm not suggesting he hasn't said this but you have a source at all? Thanks.
@deepthoughts1153
@deepthoughts1153 6 жыл бұрын
@@rolandguilford8301 just Google Jordan Peterson on compassion. He seems to conflate compassion and enabling. Empathy and compassion are about understanding others and truly helping them. Enabling is a selfish act that may make you feel better but actual hurts others. Eg. Giving addicts money. Its an important distinction.
@deepthoughts1153
@deepthoughts1153 6 жыл бұрын
@@metokyo4960 Unfortunately, I believe he knows exactly what he's doing. The confusing language is used to obscure hate filled ideology.
@rolandguilford8301
@rolandguilford8301 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Sagacious Being. Thanks for getting back to me. Will do. I'll google what you suggested. All the best!
@Imyourmoose
@Imyourmoose 6 жыл бұрын
@@metokyo4960 he said he thinks in words ;)
@agendafocus
@agendafocus 5 жыл бұрын
... after exploring our most extreme polarities we are challenged to balance ourselves ( reason & emotions ) towards the middle = seeking equilibrium and centering our own being'ness upwards reaching higher perspective from the depth of our distilled experiences = nurturing the essence of Life itself after having fallen into the dark spaces of human suffering, etc... Dark night of The Soul... then coming out of our own dark caverns into the light of realizations -- Metaphysics is very helpful }}}
@dnsmithnc
@dnsmithnc 6 жыл бұрын
True spiritual growth can only come with all other possibilities being in contention is the lesson I see.
@sitarainbow8837
@sitarainbow8837 6 жыл бұрын
Beauty is ever in the eye of the beholder, yes. Each one is shown what is perfect & appropriate for them to see. We can come back to the same book later & get something quite different from our earlier understanding. Life is a good bit more awesome than we've been taught to believe. ~♥~
@Appleblade
@Appleblade 6 жыл бұрын
I give Prof Peterson a pass here. Some Buddhist purists don't like his Western interpretation of the lesson of the Buddha's story, but he's not doing anything wrong. Buddhists have their own interpretations of other religions and philosophies. They're not wrong to do that ... what else can religions and philosophies do other than espouse their own views, and say what's wrong with other views insofar as they disagree? It's part of having a mature, comprehensive worldview.
@Appleblade
@Appleblade 6 жыл бұрын
Well, aboctok, The Buddha himself rejected Hinduism and said why. I'm sure there are Buddhists who 'don't get out much', and don't have opinions on other religions, but since Buddhism is a rejection of ordinary ways of thinking about things, I'm inclined to think almost all Buddhists know the more common ways of thinking about reality ... that there's a heaven where you go when you die (Muslims & Christians), or that there's nothing after you die (atheists, Jews, the non-religious), etc.). I've only personally known 2 Buddhists, but they both were originally Christians.
@Appleblade
@Appleblade 6 жыл бұрын
As everything you said here makes sense, I guess I think we were just talking past each other. lol! ... (I'm an academic, so when I speak of Buddhists or Christians, I have in mind people who are serious about their faith as a matter of truth ... my bad, no doubt.) The great bulk of Christians probably have no idea what they believe, and the Fundamentalist types who pride themselves on doctrine are in a grand minority. If you say so, I'm happy to accept that the great bulk of Buddhists simply practice rituals, and know little of the deep reasoning behind it all. Isn't there any Buddhist Sunday School where you live? ;)
@MichielVanKets
@MichielVanKets 6 жыл бұрын
he didn't mention any of the teachings, he's distracting from buddha's teachings by referring to stories that have absolutely nothing to do with buddha himself or his teachings anybody who talks about buddha and gods at the same time is by definition a corrupt piece of shit
@cruz1ale
@cruz1ale 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that's not a universally accepted definition of "corrupt piece of shit".
@mazimadu
@mazimadu 6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused (at Michiel Van Kets). How doe a piece of shit become corrupt by talking about buddha?
@bassmuso
@bassmuso 3 жыл бұрын
I beginning of Buddha story is a little different than Jordon says. When the child was born, sages came to give blessings to the Kings son. It was an old unkempt sage that told of Buddhas life, this is why the king sheltered the child so.
@DisobedientSpaceWhale
@DisobedientSpaceWhale 3 жыл бұрын
Buddhism also says that all human desires = suffering
@krishnamsdhoni
@krishnamsdhoni 5 жыл бұрын
Its certainly a very precise insight of meaning. Bulls eye. Well, things i'd like to point out is that the parents protectivity and the bridge of independant mindset are extremely a close call. Unless something major happens to you, its either anti social or introversion. This is not because the intention is wrong but the approach taken from a stereo typed "goodness" is in every possible way a step for negative rebound because such a thing is an impression of something you relatively build from past information and the emotions associated with it. Lets say if one is to be in a palace growing up with absolute state of heaven, then an emotion is associated with such a feeling that even if one were to somehow have a little variation in it, it either feels fearful or boring. The idea of happiness as an ultimate pleasure itself is not very reasonable as emotions, of any kind when felt long enough not only brings deception but also causes a sense of boredom in lack of point so it is built to constabtly experience something new continously, which physicality has been incapable of as it is subject to change and cannot continue any emotion permanently. Nature of life is like that. It is like a volcanic erruption with lava bursting out. But the way of the buddhism is focused only on disconnection alone but the aspiration of it did not get pleaded so its not complete
@ekongkaarkaurkhalsa9617
@ekongkaarkaurkhalsa9617 5 жыл бұрын
This man is just brilliant. I love the interpretation of this story of Buddha. Just brilliant.
@nik8099
@nik8099 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant? Lol, this guy hasn't even meditated or got his sources right and you think he is brilliant? He is blind leading blind.
@ravjayakodi2746
@ravjayakodi2746 2 жыл бұрын
@@nik8099 are you buddhist ? If not , then your opinion is invalid
@Viralclipmedia
@Viralclipmedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravjayakodi2746 so you have to be a Buddhist to question somebodies ideas ? The Buddha said to always inquire and find your own answers not follow blindly.
@ravjayakodi2746
@ravjayakodi2746 2 жыл бұрын
@@Viralclipmedia he said quote "got his sources right" suggesting that he believs that JP is wrong. I am buddhist and what JP said was right. I only mentioned that bc he implied that he knows more about buddhism when he is wrong.
@darrellng7617
@darrellng7617 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised by the responses here..you people should realize he's not preaching the principles of a religion's teaching, which you too should realize varies much across continents. But rather a discussion, on the fundamental truths in a story like Buddha's and the concepts that resonate within a man's psyche. It's what drives an individual's beliefs to such doctrines, because it reflects their inner selves, same reason why people go to movies or read novels. You think you'd go to church if you didn't agree with the priest/pastor? or watch Infinity War if you think superheroes are silly and childish? This just shows what religion does to man, it puts you in a box without you realizing, & the over-priviledge, over zealous and all knowing closed minded attitude that comes with it.
@jackalope2302
@jackalope2302 6 жыл бұрын
Darrell Ng It is with great respect and irony that I respond, Amen brother. This is not religious instruction, this is a psychologist analyzing a Cliff Notes version myth that many people still believe. And it's worse than religion. It's zealotry. Fanaticism at its most insidious. Plenty of fanatics in every religion, philosophy and political Theory.
@Xpertman213
@Xpertman213 6 жыл бұрын
+Tony Banana I think we are discovering more and more that religions primary purpose was the ordering of society. The stuff that comes with it is usually just baggage that helped at one point because people didn't have intellectual systems for establishing legitimate authority, and therefore hierarchy could easily be undermined. I think one core note of Jordan Peterson's grander message is that we need to take into account all of religions functions, and we can't forget the important things that they did accomplish and that we still want to be able to accomplish today. It's no surprise that democracy emerged in a land where the people's holy book said 'render onto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto god what is gods'. It managed to give legitimacy to the 'no harm' and 'respect' principle without needing a human authority to enforce the works.
@mariolongtin8271
@mariolongtin8271 6 жыл бұрын
Mad Hatter I agree with you, it was definitely a way to control the masses.
@germanicelt
@germanicelt 5 жыл бұрын
No, laws and punishment was the way to control the masses.
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 5 жыл бұрын
@@Xpertman213 "That helped at one point" Do you know how many people are getting free of addiction till this day because they became christian? Teen Challenge has a 77% success rate for addicts who complete the program and it is a Christian program. Most people go in none christian and come out christian free of addiction for life thanks to their new found religion. Now i won't go on now to say that maybe people have found the same freedom in another relgion and got their lives together as i don't know but it goes to show religion will always be needed no matter how intellectual we are.
@alz3698
@alz3698 6 жыл бұрын
beautifully said
@michietn5391
@michietn5391 5 жыл бұрын
5:45 (Father) lets Sidd go outside, but fixes everything up first. This reminds me of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village For those viewers not familiar with the expression, it's a cliche, whenever the scenario calls for pretense ahead of inspection.
@Kyoto_Ed
@Kyoto_Ed 5 жыл бұрын
There's a joke in England that the Queen must think the world smells of fresh paint
@kiliya1086
@kiliya1086 6 жыл бұрын
Buddhism is a many layered onion. There are layers of understanding but they all hinge on one thing. Buddhism is experiential. It doesn't rely on others experience to confirm what Gautama taught. The idea is that all of the teachings are fingers pointing at the moon but are not the moon. Jordan uses the story of Siddhartha to deliver his message and he is not wrong from his point of view. He's not trying to give a comprehensive view of Buddhist teachings whether they be Theravaden, Mahayanist, or Vajrayana. That is for the scholars and teachers. Practicing Buddhism has many skillful means as a way of bringing practitioners to realization and and inclination for one sect or another is often intuitive. Many students spend time arguing over various interpretations but often miss the point of whats being taught until wisdom spawns a new understanding. Meditation as a means is often the starting point for all forms of Buddhism and is the support for this new understanding. Compassion and awareness are the fundamentals of who we truly are as sentient beings and may be part of the reason for the similarities often cited between Buddhism and Christianity.
@williamtsanders
@williamtsanders 6 жыл бұрын
^^^^^^^this one has something important to tell you all
@Lfmyjaw
@Lfmyjaw 6 жыл бұрын
Kiliya 108 thank you
@kiliya1086
@kiliya1086 6 жыл бұрын
If I have helped in any way you are more than welcome Yvios!
@Xpertman213
@Xpertman213 6 жыл бұрын
Killya 108 Sometimes sucking our fingers is fun, though. ;)
@kiliya1086
@kiliya1086 6 жыл бұрын
Point taken Mad Hatter!
@gyatsogurung6215
@gyatsogurung6215 6 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong in the way he tells the story.. you western buddhists don’t know how to defend even a story. Let a real buddhist student be the judge of what is right about Buddhism. Reading just a bestseller doesn’t hold the weight to critisize how he tells this story. he tells it beautifully. Grow up! I am thinking i might know better because I am a tibetan Buddhist monk and have been studying tibetan buddhism philosophy for 13 years and professor now. I could be wrong but most of critics in below comment sections are definitely baseless.
@tibetan.music.universe
@tibetan.music.universe 6 жыл бұрын
Tashi delek
@tibetan.music.universe
@tibetan.music.universe 6 жыл бұрын
Ngoney rey
@jotero-colon526
@jotero-colon526 6 жыл бұрын
you say you studied Buddhism and philosophy for 13 years and are now a professor but your comment seems pretentious and almost elitist in a way that reads exactly what something written by someone whose knowledge of Buddhism comes from reading a westernized bestseller. i would assume you would be more enlightened than to tell others who take issue with petersons interpretation of the story of the Buddha to "grow up". mind you this is all coming from a westerner who got all his buddhist books on amazon. not all are bestsellers though. peace be with you.
@gyatsogurung6215
@gyatsogurung6215 6 жыл бұрын
J Colon maybe I am wrong, maybe I sound elite, maybe I am best seller reader for pleasure instead of reading to enlighten myself. I never claimed I am right but grow up is a shout I shout for those who criticises out of jealousy. They say there is no such thing as celestial bodies which guides Buddha at that particular instances in story. Is there not ? Different Buddhist school have different outlook on Buddha's life. Such as Mahayana Budhism says all of Buddha's life is a premeditated show for sentient beings to tell them that there is way and hope for us to liberate oneself from the circus of life or world as we see it. And then there's Theravada budhsim, who says it's not premeditated, Buddha was born normal, he was normal until he attained Buddha-hood. In both cases, there's a talk of celestial bodies involvement in the story. So the least reasonable criticism they throw at is a baseless as the Budhas life story unfolds in according to any sect of Buddhism. And some of critics don't even reasons why Mr. peterson's story is at fault. They just seem like criticising him; one because they think they know Buddhism and are qualified to comment because they read best seller. And some of them they just criticises him because they are simply jealous as I see it. Mr. Peterson might be telling this story after reading a best seller but the bestseller he read sounds more accordingly with mainstream Budhism. By the way, my friend, what is the fault in the way he tells the Buddha's story ? Or is it just that you didn't like the way I commented using such as "grow up" "western Buddhist" ? What I liked best about his story telling is how he somehow make noticeable why Buddha was in search of Buddhism since there was already Sankhya and his ancestor's traditional religion. Try to listen him once more and then tell me what's wrong with the way he tells this story. Don't tell me you didn't like his smile or the way he presents Buddha as a ordinary people. Because Mr. Peterson is supposed to be smart and not cute, and also Buddha's life story is supposed to look ordinary human being's pursue of Enlightenment. My name is Gyatso, by the way and I am definitely not elite, my professor job doesn't pay, there's nothing glamorous or pretentious abt my life. Not smiling now, see I am serious guy LOL
@jotero-colon526
@jotero-colon526 6 жыл бұрын
i respect and agree with your comment. thank you for replying to me.
@leislschutte6421
@leislschutte6421 2 жыл бұрын
This is much like the story I was told except it was a seer after Siddharta Guatama was born who told his parents he would either be a great military ruler or a great spiritual leader. Part of the story I heard was also that the best teachers in politics and military strategies were employed by his parents and that any type of unpleasantness was kept from him since it may have drawn him towards religion and his father very much wanted him to be great in political and military prowess and not a religious leader. In the story I heard his father didn’t let him out of the palace, he snuck out somehow. And there wasn’t anything necessarily metaphysical but he saw 4 sights that lead to spiritual questions: illness, death, old age, and I’m having a hard time remembering the fourth but the internet is telling me the 4th sight was a begging ascetic holy man. After that he leaves the palace where he lead a life of luxury and pleasure and became an ascetic (holy man in Hindu who lives in poverty and begs for food while wandering). Then while meditating under a tree he becomes enlightened and realizes too much deprivation is just as bad as too much pleasure and advocates a ‘middle way.’ That middle way is part of one of the 4 noble truths: The Noble 8 Fold Path (magga in the Pali language) which lays out what he considered moral rules for living a good and balanced life.
@3g3q5
@3g3q5 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to have Jordan Peterson as my neigbour. We would have some great talks
@sfkim44
@sfkim44 6 жыл бұрын
That's how it started. Key point of Buddhism is how he found the answer to it. Comparing this story to adam and eve is a stretch lol
@GavinMorris1
@GavinMorris1 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Jesus supposed to be of the line of Adam? It's the same thing, although a bit more Star Wars in execution :)
@vijaysingh3133
@vijaysingh3133 6 жыл бұрын
from the Bubble part, i understood that happiness dies/ loses its meaning when there is no sadness, its not that people want to distroy happy bubbles comming out, even due to curiosity, its because due to no sadness, the meaning of happiness is lost...
@sitarainbow8837
@sitarainbow8837 6 жыл бұрын
Vijay, well spoken. The Yin-Yang's perfect balance illustrates that. A simple example is how hunger is the best spice, making whatever we eat taste better. ~♥~
@dilipaweeratunga
@dilipaweeratunga Жыл бұрын
I still remember me first getting to know death. It was so detailed that I cried in horror.
@SupernalOne
@SupernalOne 6 жыл бұрын
right, there is no hope but that you take courage and resolve to be a force of good
@chadsexinton
@chadsexinton 6 жыл бұрын
The west is always analyzing every word literally.
@tejassinha62
@tejassinha62 4 жыл бұрын
Fact. the English language is way too cynical for its own good. Stems from an over the top, underlying fear of all the undesirable outcomes that reality can manifest into
@marshack5064
@marshack5064 3 жыл бұрын
@@tejassinha62 well put
@quidnick
@quidnick Жыл бұрын
Western religion is the ultimate coping mechanism, Cope with reality itself.
@Media_Display
@Media_Display 5 жыл бұрын
[Insert know-it-all comment here]
@tuanjim799
@tuanjim799 5 жыл бұрын
lol oooh what a nice safe way for you to get likes
@SeraphimVolker
@SeraphimVolker 3 жыл бұрын
@@tuanjim799 to be fair that only got like 9 likes lol
@tagonminmyat7302
@tagonminmyat7302 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan knows what he's talking about. I'm Buddhist from Myanmar. and I agree with him.
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles 6 жыл бұрын
I love JBP and follow the Tathagata. Best of both worlds
@kavi20111
@kavi20111 3 жыл бұрын
The story is a bit different from the actual one that I’ve been hearing for ages (I’m a born Buddhist) but the lesson is true. So i guess that’s all that matters :)
@kavi20111
@kavi20111 3 жыл бұрын
@Amey Tiwari yes you are right :)) that’s what I’ve been taught too
@mariolongtin8271
@mariolongtin8271 6 жыл бұрын
This is great advice for parents too not just Buddha haha
@Axelrun1994
@Axelrun1994 6 жыл бұрын
That final question was a clusterfuck. It just left me questioning further
@ratneshchandna
@ratneshchandna 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful, beautiful teaching
@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad this video ended on the note about seeking redemption and the notion that all civilizations are seeking order out of chaos. He put it very well. And if you are a fan of Joseph Campbell, none of this is news to you. However unlike Campbell, Peterson has invested himself in the Judeo Christian belief system. I would add that although all civilizations are seeking redemption, they don’t all go about it in the same way. For Westerners, the way out is through a belief in an iconic God. And in that belief, they have an insurance plan so to say. (If you don’t believe… No insurance plan for you.). In the east, belief is not enough. In the east, it is developing purity of heart that matters in the end. That is karma. And for them, it doesn’t matter what you believe, as long as you are in accordance with universal laws that deepen your compassion. For that is how you will be “judged.” Between the two, I find the eastern approach more fulfilling because it requires that you actually do the work every day. Just saying a prayer or believing in something isn’t good enough. But hey... that’s me.
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 5 жыл бұрын
That makes zero sense because if you read the bible at all you would have to live out your life with love for God and your neighbor aka compassion for the rest of your life and do good deeds as proof that you believe in God. Matter of fact the new testament says work out your salvation daily.
@bige8949
@bige8949 6 жыл бұрын
I was brought up semi-christian, I was told the stories as a child and believed them up until I was a pre-teen and started to question things. My parents are agnostic atheists but for some reason decided to raise me that way. I had an understanding of mortality at a very early age compared to what Jordan is describing. I have no problem with death and decay. It's natural progression. I will die sooner or later and nothing will come off it but sustenance for plants. I'm fine with that. The one thing I disagree with Jordan on is that I need a divinity to justify my moral obligations or actions. I think anyone would find me a perfectly compassionate human being with moral values.
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr 6 жыл бұрын
The death in the garden was not a physical state, but a spiritual death -- the long sleep of separation brought on by the wearing of ego and all its dichotomies -- love hate, wisdom stupidity, compassion indifference, confidence doubt, and many others. These created the blindness of separation that broke Adam into the pieces which became individual souls. These separate selves are now striving to come together, no longer selfishly separate and no longer in opposition to one another.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 5 жыл бұрын
There actually is meaning in what JP says you know haha.
@frankzlappa1709
@frankzlappa1709 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna go back to school now
@goodkarmalife
@goodkarmalife 6 жыл бұрын
The Buddha never taught too far left or too far right. he taught 'the middle way. just like Peterson. the best account I have seen of the historical Buddha is a PBS special , the Buddha, narrated by Richard Gear. keep in mind that some of the mythological accounts r2b understood as metaphors. and not actual historical events
@Andy_Arkadata
@Andy_Arkadata 6 жыл бұрын
listening to Jordan Peterson is on the same level as watching a really good pseudo-philosophical-psychological anime or taking DMT
@jessdemi2422
@jessdemi2422 5 жыл бұрын
A father should say "im gonna cultivate and faciliate this child to illuminate his own unique path in life by teachibg her/him self to look within him/her self so she/he guide her/him self in life."
@jerryhewes
@jerryhewes 5 жыл бұрын
I am married (46 years) to an unaware Zen Buddhist from Korea. She is the finest person I have ever met.
@Voicelet
@Voicelet 6 жыл бұрын
That's the story of Buddha's early life. It's completely correct, nothing twisted at all (except the god intervention bits, it depends whether you read from Mahayana or Theravada.) You all western haters should get your fact right first. And I live in the second most Buddhism predominant country, so I know the story better.
@markbatton9434
@markbatton9434 6 жыл бұрын
Voicelet what are you getting at? You assume that a western psychologist would be on par in religious lore, with any fundamentalist? Deconstructing a story is difficult within itself, but you wish him to bare the knowledge of hundreds of Buddhists that is passed down from teacher to student? Would you say, Buddhism is the same as when it was "constructed? " How many of your countries religious instructors are fluent in analytical psychology, and evolutionary psychology? Do they seek to explain how their story can relate to western ideals? Or is it not worth the time? Are they secular?
@cheshire_skatkat9093
@cheshire_skatkat9093 6 жыл бұрын
So what do you want? A cookie? Jeesh!
@codeN_8
@codeN_8 6 жыл бұрын
Haters? Hmmm...why are you so upset @voicelet? He is just interpreting from his own experience. All ppl do that. We all have mental filters. I think you are hearing him through yours.
@tr00logic4
@tr00logic4 6 жыл бұрын
Buddha fought the Gods with the intention of asserting an enlightened atheism. He defeated them, but came back a monotheist.
@Mizukageize
@Mizukageize 5 жыл бұрын
@@tr00logic4 And where the fudge did you heard that?
@FearlessWisdom
@FearlessWisdom 6 жыл бұрын
If you actually read what the Buddha taught, it has nothing to do with order out of chaos and Peterson's noxious dualism. In fact, it goes beyond order and chaos, beyond any metaphysical and conceptual dualisms.
@Kyoto_Ed
@Kyoto_Ed 5 жыл бұрын
would you care to enlighten us as to what it is?
@jordanh8207
@jordanh8207 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow Javier you're so cool and awesome
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 5 жыл бұрын
Javier trying to sound wise while not even correcting anything Jordan Peterson said with a coherent counter argument.
@tuanjim799
@tuanjim799 5 жыл бұрын
lol uh-oh, watch out Javier, you got some JP fanboys foaming at the mouth to defend their daddy :D
@Kyoto_Ed
@Kyoto_Ed 5 жыл бұрын
@Sir Reginald Meowington Im a bit drunk right now and will reread your comment when I'm sober. But I'd like to thank you for taking the time to try to help a fellow human being. One ill thought out question occurs to me tho in my present state. "Enlightenment" seems like such an impossible goal. I would settle for peace of mind and a modicum of happiness in this life time. And then see what comes next. With all its sham, broken dream and drudgery it's still a beautiful life. We need to experience the lows to appreciate the highs. In short, is Nirvana really such an ideal goal. Is not going from one life to the next, from one adventure to the next, something that can be... enough. Feeling alive and excited. With the risk of death or suffering. Is that no what 'life' is all about. Nirvana sounds a bit like game over. And sometimes I really enjoy playing this game.
@raymondmeadows5363
@raymondmeadows5363 5 жыл бұрын
Cooooooole. Gotta love a bit of Dr JP.
@mrsolodolo1234
@mrsolodolo1234 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find these readings or where is he reading this from ? I would like to look further into this subject
@themanfromearth76
@themanfromearth76 6 жыл бұрын
wow. im a buddhist and i dont think he could have told the story any better, without going too much into details that is
@dswynne
@dswynne 6 жыл бұрын
To all the detractors of Peterson's narrative style: grow up. Obviously, he is using a method of teaching in a way that bridges one tradition with another. Most people are not familiar with the story of Buddha, and he is using that story to draw parallels with another story, in order to get his students to understand metaphors. Whining about his use of Judeo-Christian symbolism is immature. And if you have a problem with it, just think of such stories as just that: STORIES. Ugh. SMH.
@johanmusic8135
@johanmusic8135 6 жыл бұрын
Buddhism can be a religion or a philosophy, Buddhism has no God.The Great Buddha was sceptical of Gods including himself and would be of someone like Mr Peterson who purports to know the truth. The Buddha encouraged people to find the truth for themselves
@AbirTarafdar
@AbirTarafdar 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Spot on.
@batmandeltaforce
@batmandeltaforce 6 жыл бұрын
Johan Music Wrong. The Buddha knows God is real, but it is silly to discuss it.
@dswynne
@dswynne 6 жыл бұрын
aboctok ...Wow. Missing the point, much?
@dswynne
@dswynne 6 жыл бұрын
aboctok Hey, what can I say? They say to get from point A to point B is a straight line, after all.
@PURPLE_SHADE_SMOOTHIE
@PURPLE_SHADE_SMOOTHIE 6 жыл бұрын
The answer to the question at time 12:21 is "Yes, it does finally demolish you. Death is final, without afterlife. That is why life is so, so, so precious. See the beauty therein? Everyday feel the incredible fortune of being alive. Simple as that."
@blakedobles5016
@blakedobles5016 Жыл бұрын
Way upward is understanding and acceptance
@chyarlee
@chyarlee 6 жыл бұрын
imagine the psychological implication for Siddhartha: he was living the ultimate dream of illusion (forever young, filled with the sensual pleasure, no death) for 29 years. TWENTY-NINE YEARS. his entire reality was absolutely crushed once he realized that people suffer, age and ultimately die? and why? because that can happen to him too. had he not met the ascetic on his fourth day of leaving the palace, Buddhism may not have ever existed.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 5 жыл бұрын
its the ultimate story of growing up and "maning up".
@ericcolvin3546
@ericcolvin3546 6 жыл бұрын
It puzzles me that, for so many intelligent people, death is this one final, terrible thing - from knowledge of which "there is no going back," blah blah. At five years old, I was aware that we all died. I don't think that made me grown up - and I don't belief that my entire psyche has formed around terror of death. Sure, I'd LIKE us all to live a little longer, but it has always seemed there are far worse things than death - such as much of the disease which accompanies ageing. If you can't eliminate senility or cancer then, for most people, I would say death is relatively appealing.
@sitarainbow8837
@sitarainbow8837 6 жыл бұрын
Eric - great comment, good observations. The "terrible" factor of death is absent when we don't identify exclusively with the body, the body-mind. It dies, but we are eternal, living in an environment of eternity/infinity. Here in 3D relativity, yes, death can be far more appealing than some alternatives. A lifetime is but a chapter in the book, not the whole thing. It's more like a dream than anything real, at least from the perspective of the other side such as NDE or an awakening experience. You just KNOW, from there, that's so much more real than our trek in relativity. Bottom line, tho - it's all good. :) ~♥~
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 5 жыл бұрын
This whole thing about death being more appealing i would agree if you are 103 years old with no living friends or family stuck in a nursing home lonely but even people that are terminally ill rather live than die and pray for a miracle etc. This whole death for some is better than life is for people not thinking clearly so it is a bad example. You have people who break up with a boyfriend or girlfriend and prefer death to dealing with their feelings but they are not in a right state of mind. A person with a mental illness might prefer to die but they are unable to think rightly so if they could for at least a day i am sure they would prefer to choose hope and live.
@albertalbert7958
@albertalbert7958 6 жыл бұрын
Buddhism teach you to be humble, to doubt your reality as we at bias at judging, to be the last to speak and the first to listen. Remember that whenever you feel like talking about Buddhism.
@invokingvajras
@invokingvajras 5 жыл бұрын
Also, as far as I'm aware the charioteer who attended to the Buddha was not an emissary of the gods, but a human named Channa. However, many traditions do suggest that the four sights themselves were manifested by the gods; or most commonly; Śakra Lord of the Heaven of the 33.
@darrendelong
@darrendelong 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, in the story of Buddha about encountering of the sick man and dead man, there is actually no mention of GODs that send the sick man of dead man . Buddhism never talks about GODs or the existence of GODs. I am not sure if Jordan Peterson added that in or got it from a source that added the word GODs. Anyone who knows Buddhism knows that there are no GODs in the philosophy of Buddhism.
@pinklasagna8328
@pinklasagna8328 2 жыл бұрын
There are no gods in buddhist philosophy. But story of siddhartha is not buddhist philosophy it's buddhist theology.
@srinjayadasa3862
@srinjayadasa3862 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the man , but he doesn't have a good back ground in Eastern tranditionditions. And then mixes it with biblical and western themes. He is in an outsider not an insider.
@stvbrsn
@stvbrsn 5 жыл бұрын
This is not Peterson’s “thoughts on Buddha” as the graphic states. The professor is recounting the story of the Buddha. Definitions are important.
@phyzix_phyzix
@phyzix_phyzix Жыл бұрын
A few inaccuracies in the story. It wasn't an angel that said he would become a sage it was a seer. Also, the gods didn't arrange for the old man, dead man, etc to appear in front of him. They happened to appear due the Buddha's past karma. In Buddhism gods are not controllers or creators of the universe. They are beings like the rest of us and can't arrange for things to happen in your life. The experiences you have are a result of your previous karma.
@AndyJK45
@AndyJK45 6 жыл бұрын
The story of the Buddha is not important. His teachings are.
@movieklump
@movieklump 6 жыл бұрын
No, the practice is.
@xramejin
@xramejin 6 жыл бұрын
The story does give context to his teachings. But you're right, teachings and ideas should stand on their own merits regardless of context.
@christopherrivera1673
@christopherrivera1673 6 жыл бұрын
Miles Mathis: "Concerning the birth of Buddha, one of the first things we are told is this: 'Whilst she [his mother] thus religiously observed the rules of a pure discipline, Bodhisattva was born from her right side, come to deliver the world, constrained by great pity, without causing his mother pain or anguish.' As you can see, this religion is all too familiar. It is in denial against life and against the real world from the first word. It implies that a woman who observes a pure discipline in child-birth will be blessed with a painless birth. Not so. It implies that there is something holy about the right side of the body. Not so. It implies that a holy being could or would want to avoid causing pain or anguish, and that he or she would do this because of pity. Not so. We all feel pain and anguish, and no amount of pity will remove it. A far wiser man from the East, Lao-tze, taught that acceptance of pain and anguish and death was the real transcendence. 'All things in Nature bloom and then return from whence they came. This is the fulfillment of their destiny. This reversion is an eternal law. To know it is wisdom.' By that he didn't mean we should have a disregard for those in pain or anguish, or that we shouldn't avoid causing pain when it was unnecessary. He meant we should recognize pain and anguish and even death as gifts from the gods, whoever they are, equal to the gifts of pleasure and contentment. If it were not necessary for the body and mind to feel pain and anguish, Nature would not have included them in our bodies and minds. It seems to me this is the wisdom the Buddha was utterly without his entire life (as we will see below). Soon after, we find this: [Says the Buddha, as a child:] 'This birth is in the condition of a Buddha; after this I have done with renewed birth; now only am I born this once, for the purpose of saving all the world.' Again, very familiar, and very unnatural. Imagine a leaf saying this, or a flower. “I am done with the cycle of Nature! I am done with being composted and reborn into another day under the Sun! I demand to be a leaf forever, undying, and as an eternal leaf, I will save all the world!” We would find our little leaf more than a bit ridiculous. Who is a leaf to tell Nature what he will and will not do? And how can a leaf save all the world? What is more, why does this leaf imagine the world needs saving? No, the Buddha is an awful little brat from his swaddling clothes, and no wise person could listen to his chirping without pain. The author now tells us: 'When Bodhisattva was born, he came to remove the sorrows of all living things.' Thanks, but I am attached to my sorrows and have no desire to give them up. They are the deepest arrows I have in my quiver, and my art would would become impossible without my sorrows. I would sooner be relieved of my joys." Miles Mathis: "In fact, the reaction to the Buddha's teachings in India in the 4th century BC was very like my reaction in this paper. In the Bhagavadgita, probably written soon after the Buddha's death, we find Krishna telling the young coward Arjuna not to be so concerned with death: 'Mourn not for those that live, nor those that die! Neither I, nor you, nor anyone here ever was not or ever will not be. All that lives, lives always.' That may be true, or not, but at least it doesn't stink of poison. It is a breath of fresh air after all the maunderings of the Buddha. We could understand a young soldier being traumatized by the brutalities of war. We understand soldiers returning from battle who question life and the gods, who must work through a depression or undergo a life change. But it is difficult to feel much sympathy for the young Buddha, so traumatized at age 29 by seeing an old man, a sick man, a coffin, and a ploughman, that he must ride his royal stallion into the woods, accompanied by his butler, and seek the company of a bunch of other rich Brahmin too holy and effete to face the real world. There he says his first true words to these Brahmakarins, though he seems to know it not: 'Pitiful indeed are such sufferings! and merely in quest of a human or heavenly reward, ever revolving in the cycle of birth or death, how great your sufferings, how small the recompense! Leaving your friends, giving up honorable position; with a firm purpose to obtain the joys of heaven, although you may escape little sorrows, yet in the end involved in great sorrow; promoting the destruction of your outward form, and undergoing every kind of painful penance, and yet seeking to obtain another birth.' And how does the manchild think to better this pitiful plan? He plans to suffer these austerities in order to avoid another birth! Ah, brilliant plan, young Siddhartha. Because you fear death, and find the very idea of it ruins your joy, you seek to have death (or its existential equivalent) now instead. Yes, you seek Nirvana, a thing never before sought by any wise man of India before you. But what is Nirvana? Nirvana is “the perfect peace of the state of mind that is free from craving, anger and other afflictive states.” This is achieved when all desire is rooted out. Nirvana is “the unconditioned (asankhata) mind, a mind that has come to a point of perfect lucidity and clarity due to the cessation of the production of volitional formations. Nirvana is deathlessness.” To my eye, Nirvana appears to be a death wish, suicide without the knife. Notice that the Buddha has defined craving and desire as afflictions. Not just negative cravings or desires, or destructive cravings or desires, but all cravings and desires. A man desiring to kiss his wife: an affliction. A woman desiring to have a child, and to caress that child, and to feed that child: an affliction. A bird enjoying flight: afflicted. A fish craving to eat a fly: afflicted. A dog enjoying a bone: afflicted. A thirsty man drinking from a clear stream: afflicted. Nirvana is not deathlessness, it is lifelessness. Nirvana is not the opposite of death, life is the opposite of death. Life is deathlessness. But the Buddha has fled from life. He cannot abide it. Beyond that, I have no desire for an “unconditioned mind.” What is wisdom but the conditioning of the mind? A moron has an unconditioned mind: may be quite adept at avoiding most thoughts, may even have reduced cravings or desires. Do I long for the moronic state? No. Are you quite sure that religion is not a form of induced imbecility? Are you quite that bodhi or amata is not the most successful form of induced imbecility ever known? Christ advised us to be like children or like the birds of the air, but even the birds and the children are not morons. Nor are they yogis. Children would never think to avoid experiences or desires. Birds would never think to avoid cravings. The whole point of living like birds or babes is to experience the rawness of life, with trust and acceptance, to take Nature as she is, to have no thought of saving the world. . . because you have no thought of “the world.” Could a beast of the field avoid desires? Can we imagine a beast of the field having a negative desire? The beast of the field, like the child, is its desires, and no harm done. Jesus must have meant something like this."
@movieklump
@movieklump 6 жыл бұрын
You are another person who knows nothing about what Buddha taught. And by the way, Jesus, if he existed, was a prick who adhered to Filicide, slavery, hypocrisy and family abandonment.
@decabalusinvictus97
@decabalusinvictus97 6 жыл бұрын
I know a Buddhist did not just berate a different profit just because someone was a jerk online.
@sunjabibahladeen6394
@sunjabibahladeen6394 6 жыл бұрын
wtf he didnt finish the story, the last bit, oh how he gained enlightenment and left this devine unconscious "hell" like state of karma. he left out the major important thing of riding conscious awareness past and into freedom of suffering. brughhh
@sitarainbow8837
@sitarainbow8837 6 жыл бұрын
So many in the comment section offer little more than criticism of Jordan's offering from a particular perspective - _sometimes_ a constructive one. Beauty is ever in the eye of the beholder. Since we're unique, _of course_ we'll have different takes on this. What we see in this or _anything_ mirrors us back to ourselves. Life experience is far more beneficial when we realize the Loving benevolence of Source mirroring each one back to the self/Self, perpetually offering the hand up while enjoying the Dance. Jordan is courageous in ways that are scarce these days - willing to share & stand by his perspectives *&* to change them when appropriate. Oh, that we could all take a page from that book! What a better world it could be. Since consciousness creates, we're all in on the Divine Dance to the extent we choose to be, to the extent we're willing to let go. ~♥~
@kevinedwards7079
@kevinedwards7079 8 ай бұрын
This is wisdom in action no shortage of erudite conversation and truth be told
@chess747
@chess747 6 жыл бұрын
Of course Jordan is smart, I like him a lot, but smart does not equal knowledge , that's why our creator gave us limited knowledge. Because we need each other's experience, to learn and grow.
@MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by
@MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by 6 жыл бұрын
He is just making sh*t up now. Which is ok for thought experiments. However, are these students supposed to take this as given ? and answer exams on it.
@jerryhewes
@jerryhewes 5 жыл бұрын
There is no possible movement upward from these realizations of reality. This is the consequence of thinking that we are made of matter. There is a genuine uplifting available to every man according to his capacity originating when man assume he is made of value, not matter. There is the appearance of principles, principles of existence that chart the course of all things of existence. The principles of existence do not exist in a reality perceived as material. What they do is relieve man of anxieties about what is true and the consequences of this is to eliminate the mass of stress, war, and other turmoils affecting man's condition on earth.
@dilanthivanka1979
@dilanthivanka1979 5 жыл бұрын
as a Buddhist, I enjoy this analysis very much.
@kemcorpvirtualenterprises3776
@kemcorpvirtualenterprises3776 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a buddhist priest and have been for more than a decade. JP is oversimplifing the life of the Buddha and the message. Edit: Wow, the criticism...
@Jackitate
@Jackitate 5 жыл бұрын
No, he is talking from his own perspective and isn't attempting to be 'factually correct'. It is wrong for you, but right for him. You proclaim it as absolutely wrong, sorry, that isn't the case. This video was helpful to myself and most likely to others.
@saikat93ify
@saikat93ify 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and Buddhism is a much deeper story than Genesis. I found the comparison quite stupid.
@HolyWisdom93
@HolyWisdom93 5 жыл бұрын
saikat93ify That's literally your opinion. Also, invoking general semantics, "buddhism" isn't a story, it's a practice that an individual adopts.
@HolyWisdom93
@HolyWisdom93 5 жыл бұрын
saikat93ify Do you know about Cabala?
@DennisMoore664
@DennisMoore664 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a buddhist priest but I play one on TV - for the point he's trying to make he's close enough for rock and roll. Go meditate on that, buddhy!
@kenzen3564
@kenzen3564 6 жыл бұрын
So Jordan stops where the Budddha begins....
@solas246
@solas246 6 жыл бұрын
is this just not one part of a whole lecture, no?
@kenzen3564
@kenzen3564 6 жыл бұрын
nice one...sounds very likely
@Mizukageize
@Mizukageize 5 жыл бұрын
@Vasu Srivastava Osho is a failed Vadzrayna student whom then proceeded to mix what he learned with Hinduism. A smart man, no doubt, but take his teachings with grain of salt.
@Mizukageize
@Mizukageize 5 жыл бұрын
@Vasu Srivastava The difference is that Buddha had to invent new way because there wasnt any that would lead to enlightment. While Vajrayana, more precisely school Karma Kagyu has very effective teachings.
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mizukageize Osho was a fraud who started a cult and there is more then enough proof about that in the new netflux documentary about him and his movement.
@theisheep2676
@theisheep2676 3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly so enlightening. It's funny, because humans have been trying to understand what life is for eons, for ages. I guess as a species, when our brains evolved to be intelligent, we never knew why we thought of different things in different ways. We've always been seeking an explanation and we still do. First it was things like astrology, then religion and now science. Who knows where we're going to go next. Life is such an interesting thing. If only we as a species could not destroy out beautiful planet or create conflict and rather work on progressing to travel the stars and find new species. (Bit over the top but what can I say, this video really got me imaginative)
@GreenHotDogz
@GreenHotDogz Жыл бұрын
people look at me like I'm crazy every time I verbally refer to Human beings as a species.
@MatukaEdgi
@MatukaEdgi 5 жыл бұрын
where can i find the entire lecture?
@TancrediLoCigno
@TancrediLoCigno 6 жыл бұрын
So let me be clear, is Jordan saying that the reason why we have Religions is because, in history every civilization has a moment where it 'collectively' understand it is virtually doomed to death and the unknown and so we need a 'bedtime story' to calm down and pat ourselves on the back, because we are basically children ourselves as a society? And the answer to this should be taking the responsibilities in our lives, be a better person (or the best person you can be...) despite the fear of the unknown, and so the fear of death, and basically become Adult, a collective adult society. I guess we need in a very practical way a lot of trust in the World to utopically achieve that.
@rohanjarande
@rohanjarande 6 жыл бұрын
Strawman.
@TancrediLoCigno
@TancrediLoCigno 6 жыл бұрын
I wasn't trying to create a strawman, I was simply trying to articulate what JP made me think about watching this video. And I also think that what I wrote is pretty relevant because it's a call to awake from the dullness we have in front of our eyes everyday and that it seems that that is the cause of a lot of the problems of everyday life inside society. So, yeah maybe the last part was a little bit bitter and 'clickbait' but I believe in the concept behind it
@johnnysalter7072
@johnnysalter7072 6 жыл бұрын
Why did he make this? It is almost weird. I know very little about the Buddha and Buddhism but I can't see how he even came close to describing anything about the essence of it.
@w.m.9883
@w.m.9883 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for ending it with that line.
@uremove
@uremove 6 жыл бұрын
Great retelling of the story of the Buddha! I like the comparison with the story of the Fall in the Garden of Eden. My only doubt is the ‘order out of chaos’ motif. I thought the 4 Noble Truths were more about suffering & attachment and the transience of all things. Perhaps that links with the realisation in the Adam and Eve story, of their human ‘fallibility’ their nakedness, and their decision to hide from God... Great talk though!
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