Josef Weiss - Carmen Fantasy

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rosie

Жыл бұрын

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original audio: • Live recording: Josef ...

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@rosiepiano Жыл бұрын

this was uploaded two days after I made this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qK9ya6hhkqmnk6c.html

@SisselOnline 11 ай бұрын

Lol

@jessicaeskebk5945 8 ай бұрын

i mean. In comparison to LDF's recording, the recording you linked is really slow, underwhelming and the pianist sounds incredibly bored.

@eternalslumber2k6 Ай бұрын

The funniest thing on these videos are always the "experts" who have maybe played one Chopin ballade and suddenly they're able to judge better than the guy who has actually performed the piece.

@Dylonely42 8 ай бұрын

Simply piano players level after one week :

@pianisthenics 10 ай бұрын

I’ve performed all Liszt 12 transcendental études in one sit and still will not touch this anytime soon

@lucasgoldy9351 10 ай бұрын

yo i play piano and do calisthenics too haha salute

@OctoPlaysPiano Ай бұрын

When will you release the full recording of all 12?? Please let me know 🙏

@most_sane_piano_enthusiast 11 ай бұрын

Divine masterpiece and godly performance of it.

@cvlen 11 ай бұрын

I love this Fantasy, so colorful and taking melodies normally not used in other Carmen fantasies. And outstanding performance, always with a marvelous singing line coming out despite all the fireworks around!

@f1f1s 9 ай бұрын

As hard as Alkan's hardest pieces, and I really mean it. Fantastic recording, superhuman abilities.

@benjaminsawyer1292 6 ай бұрын

Wow, this is actually very good and sounds awesome!!

@ladivinafanatic 11 ай бұрын

This is harder than all Liszt transcriptions. Josef Weiss was an absolute beast.

@rosiepiano 11 ай бұрын

and you did an amazing job playing it! hope to see more from you someday

@sayoripiano974 11 ай бұрын

I'd put don juan and puritains above this one but you're right about him being an absolute beast!!

@ladivinafanatic 11 ай бұрын

@@sayoripiano974 I've played all these 3. Trust me, this is much harder than Don Juan and Puritains combine together.

@sayoripiano974 11 ай бұрын

@LaDivinaFanatic I've played all three too, but I do have small hands, only an octave span, that might be why (: I played this one for my degree actually!

@sayoripiano974 11 ай бұрын

And the examples by Liszt are longer, they take a lot of stamina by the end for me :)

@sirwan505 5 ай бұрын

@LaDavinaFanatic Great playing. I'm curious to know, what will you do after you conquer Mt. Everest? Will you enjoy the view? (By that I mean, may we look forward to some less high-octane performances of other compositions?) You've got the weapons to slay some dragons, but I'd love to see a unique take on a more standard classic! Maybe that's wishful thinking. Thanks for the upload, rosie. And thank you for the performance, LDF.

@Highinsight7 22 күн бұрын

AMAZING....

@dot8209 4 ай бұрын

Jeepers.... what a machine!

@user-jc4kh1ts7k 10 ай бұрын

Чудові транскрипції класичної музики. Дякую за ці записи! Браво!

@jessicaeskebk5945 10 ай бұрын

Why am I only finding about this videos existence a month after it’s release? 😭😭

@rosiepiano 10 ай бұрын

it's never too late - and i try to upload daily! i love your channel and your compositions ^w^ 🏳‍⚧🏳‍⚧

@jessicaeskebk5945 10 ай бұрын

@@rosiepiano aaa thank you❤❤❤ !!!!!!!

@437composer 10 ай бұрын

actually this piece has most difficulty than all of liszt, alkan or whatever virtuosity pieces.. even mereaux. i agree ladivana's saying. simply awkward jumps, double notes that needs flexible finger independent etcs But. I think the reason why this song is unknown is probably because of the same reason as Etudes in mereaux. Isn't the excellence of the work's content, including the thrill of hearing it, something that the public unconsciously demands, just as hamelin disparaged Mereaux? Both mereaux and Weiss can't say that the musical-structure of the piece itself is just "bad".. But I think the reason why alkan is so well known among the lesser known composers is not just the use of that virtuosity, but the use of it to stimulate the listener's ears. It's like Liszt came up with a lot of passages and modern harmonies for the richness of the song. The difficulty of alkan and liszt is actually not physiologically difficult compared to contemporary composers/mereaux/weiss pieces. However, it causes an optical illusion that seems more difficult than that. That's my personality conclusion... Even if their opinions do not agree with mine, I always respect and respect them for their search for the "truth" of music with their beliefs and philosophies. luv u divana!

@charliegold3227 7 ай бұрын

Well said

@pianosenzanima1 11 ай бұрын

Impressive!!

@Latinosmassacre- 11 ай бұрын

than your mouth

@collinm.4652 10 ай бұрын

@@Latinosmassacre-what does that mean

@forta7353 4 ай бұрын

it was cziffra and the others... right?

@pianosenzanima1 4 ай бұрын

@@forta7353 always and forever, my friend.

@lucasgoldy9351 11 ай бұрын

May I request a score video of Moiseiwitsch's recording of Medtner's sonata op. 22?

@FranzLiszt0904 10 ай бұрын

8:57 i used that modulating too

@JramLisztfan 8 ай бұрын

10:04 onward is fantastic

@KenWangpiano Жыл бұрын

I cant wait for LaDivinaFanatic to record this piece with better equipment! This music is a caged monster of Lisztian amazingness. I can't believe its not more popular. Gyimesi's performance is so sluggish in comparison (understandable due to the insanity of this paraphrase).

@rosiepiano Жыл бұрын

absolutely agree that this deserves a better recording. although i do admit that this piece doesn't really appeal to me, even though liszt's operatic fantasies are some of my favorite pieces. weiss' carmen fantasy just feels bombastic - very virtuosic but lacking in substance

@KenWangpiano Жыл бұрын

@@rosiepiano Haha, fair enough! I personally really love the bombast. In any case, thanks for synchronizing the score with this amazing performance. These types of videos are always great 😊

@supasayajinsongoku4464 11 ай бұрын

kinda unrelated but whats the most beautiful piano piece you've heard this year?

@rosiepiano 11 ай бұрын

@@supasayajinsongoku4464 it's really hard to come up with one, but a few i can nominate are -reminiscences de norma (especially the arpeggiando section ("deh, non volerli vittime")) -harmonies du soir -liszt's transcription of hymne a saint cecile (s. 491) -massenet's piano concerto -both of mendelssohn's double piano concertos (one in a-flat major and one in e major) -ravel's piano concerto in g major (especially 2nd movement) -faure's requiem -arensky's piano quintet -sibelius 5th symphony i always go back to the norma fantasy though, it's my favorite liszt piece. definitely recommend that one

@KenWangpiano 11 ай бұрын

@@supasayajinsongoku4464 hard to choose just one but Bénédiction de Dieu dans la solitude is certainly one of the most beautiful

@tanakanovosolsin2260 4 ай бұрын

I completely thought 'Midnight on the Cliffs'

@donaldaxel 11 ай бұрын

I wondered who plays, and also wondered if Ladivinafanatic is a fan of Gabriela Montero?

@silv3762 11 ай бұрын

10:20 FREDDY FAZBEAR???

@collinm.4652 10 ай бұрын

Holy freakin crap guys it’s the fnaf song no way this is so epic fr fr

@thenotsookayguy 10 ай бұрын

@@collinm.4652HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIIIT

@most_sane_piano_enthusiast 5 ай бұрын

"GUYS IS THAT FREDDY FAZBEAR? OWR OWR OWR OWR"

@Shinobu_Kocho578 5 ай бұрын

OH HOLERA! CHEETO FREDY FAZBER!

@collinm.4652 11 ай бұрын

8:38 - 8:59 wtf

@ladivinafanatic 11 ай бұрын

I can play faster now.

@most_sane_piano_enthusiast 11 ай бұрын

@@ladivinafanatic We need proof that you are a human being, not some 7th dimensional eldritch entity beyond human comprehension. Humans aren't supposed to be able to move like this.

@most_sane_piano_enthusiast 11 ай бұрын

Your live performance footages could easily fool us, as you are probably a reality bending entity.

@xcy8161 11 ай бұрын

@@ladivinafanatic I don’t think that you should play faster.The speed in the video is just comfortable

@Latinosmassacre- 11 ай бұрын

@@ladivinafanaticpls faster... says the 6 yo horney little bunny lady

@turtle945 11 ай бұрын

i played this on piano tiles once

@rravvia 10 ай бұрын

So you use a power wheel chair?

@Damian_Theodoridis 8 ай бұрын

*_ayo_* *what?*

@ktaichiissuperhypedrightnow 3 ай бұрын

How many weeks of Simply Piano took you to this level ?

@Historia_ 9 ай бұрын

This recording totally demotivates me as an amateur...

@thenotsookayguy 9 ай бұрын

But why tho?

@chillmemes5865 2 ай бұрын

Fr, I’m just about to learn Liebestraum 😢 I have no hope

@Jartious 4 ай бұрын

Wtf is that at 6:16! FIVE LINES 😭 I don't even wanna know the name of that note!

@bozzigmupp510 11 ай бұрын

Is this Carmen as in the famous chromatic piece by Bizet

@rosiepiano 11 ай бұрын

carmen is an opera by bizet, this piece features multiple themes from the opera

@bozzigmupp510 11 ай бұрын

@@rosiepiano Thank you

@collinm.4652 10 ай бұрын

It’s a fantasy on various themes from the Carmen piece by bizet

@bozzigmupp510 10 ай бұрын

@@collinm.4652What is the difference between Carmen and Habanera

@lucasgoldy9351 10 ай бұрын

@@bozzigmupp510 habanera is an aria from carmen

@Dylonely42 8 ай бұрын

3:59

@Dylonely42 8 ай бұрын

8:57

@GregHarradineComposer 10 ай бұрын

Just diabolical...

@Dylonely42 8 ай бұрын

…ly hard to perform :(

@matthewparis1907 10 ай бұрын

Legato sixths and tenths tossed off as if they were nothing! Some technique! I guess Josef Weiss was trying to write the ultimately difficult operatic paraphrase; maybe he did it. To my mind the test of such a genre is whether the piece brings something to the melodies that weren't there in its source material. That's after all the aim of all Liszt's paraphrases. It's a retrospective rethinking of found material, musique retrouvee. I think this one does it too. There's a steely quality to this music that isn't in Bizet's score.

@chillmemes5865 2 ай бұрын

Are my eyes lying to me, or did I just see 128th notes?

@bitchslappedme 11 ай бұрын

Great performance and piece, the performer has a perfect amount of panache in his playing for it. Shame for the audio though. It blows the recording you have in your pinned comment out of the water.

@leonlinton634 7 ай бұрын

I'm big fan of Carmen but unfortunately I found this to be horribly bombastic and Josef Weiss seemed to have a higher regard for virtuosity than a good sound in this piece. It's sort of if Liszt had no maturity or care for musicality. I will give credit, though, to 9:19, which blends the orchestral and choral parts of "Les voici! voici la quadrille!" very effectively. Music of this sort will always have its fans, no doubt due to the ridiculous technical skills required to pull off a performance. Unfortunately this isn't for me though. Busoni's Carmen Fantasy is miles ahead imo!

@drewypooy25 7 ай бұрын

I do agree. Though, this is still fairly listenable and easy to understand due to the lack of deep musical thought unlike Liszt's stuff.

@chemprofmatt 7 ай бұрын

I agree. It is incredibly impressive as a showpiece. Just looking at the score was enough to raise my pulse 20 bpm. But, if any piece of music can be said to have "too many notes," surely this is it. An instant hardly goes by without something flashy. It's all just too overwhelming, though. Listening to it is exhausting; I can only imagine how exhausting it is for the performer! I need to go listen to some Mozart to set my brain right again.

@most_sane_piano_enthusiast 5 ай бұрын

@@chemprofmatt fr, this is like if LSD was a piece of music

@Quotenwagnerianer 5 ай бұрын

Detractors say that Liszt is often just hollow fireworks with no substance. But I know all of his operatic paraphrases and none of them contain pointless virtuosity just for the sake of it. He always uses passage work to creat a quasi orchestral texture on the piano, and amplify the musical ideas. Often in the form of variations, where it is expected that you do something like this. Weiss on the other hand does exactly what people accuse Liszt of doing. Lots of pointless flourishes that are there just to show off his skills. The worst thing is that he does it right away. Instead of presenting the material more or less unembelished at first he always dives right in with the most pointless passagework. It's just stupid and unmusical. Really not a fan of this approach.

@ajayaymusic 4 ай бұрын

Agree. Incredibly impressive playing here but ultimately it is just “a confused noise”, to quote Eeyore.

@LisztAddict Ай бұрын

Yup.

@leehill1271 4 ай бұрын

I don’t know. I insist listening until min 3, but mozart d minor concerto I can repeat whole day. And apparently this 11 mins piece easily beats a mozart concerto(piano part) in number of notes. I guess thats why some people were genius and some were history…

@thomaschenel753 11 ай бұрын

As long as I do not see a video of a flesh and bone pianist playing this piece so fast and without wrong notes, I shall not believe that it is possible. Scarbo looks like a piece for beginners compared to this.

@trvm1 11 ай бұрын

There were definitely quite a few wrong notes. This pianist has just endured long hours of practice to play this so well.

@Quotenwagnerianer 5 ай бұрын

And they also tricked and made it simpler in a few spots. At 7:44 for example the right hand is missing all the arpeggio notes and is just playing the melody. Probably their hands were to small to play this as written at speed.@@trvm1

@mobilephil244 5 ай бұрын

Yes, as an ex-professional pianist myself, I suspect that the poor audio quality is concealing quite a few sins. Basically, there is a finite limit to how fast flesh and sinew can physically move - even with enormous hands, which this performer obviously had; This performance was pushing credibility. I am not convinced it is all it seems.

@elliottblum7925 10 ай бұрын

Technique on par with Hamelin...

@stefanbernhard2710 28 күн бұрын

Could edge out Hamelin in a few years.

@BACH.BWV.988 10 ай бұрын

템포를 조절했다에 올인입니다. 치프라가 아닌 이상 부분 도약과 옥타브, 손가락 독립에서 있을 수 없는 표현입니다. 이 연주에서의 테크닉들을 마스터한 사람이면 이 연주가 실제가 아니란걸 알 수 있습니다.

@437composer 10 ай бұрын

search yi-chung hwang

@erichetherington9314 5 ай бұрын

The opera would be better if the singers sang all the 16th/32nd notes and the orchestra played just the melody....

@mobilephil244 5 ай бұрын

Is this from a piano roll - or an actual, live, real, biological human recorded at true speed ?? As an ex-professional pianist myself, I suspect that the poor audio quality is concealing quite a few sins. Basically, there is a finite limit to how fast flesh and sinew can physically move - even with enormous hands, which this performer obviously had; This performance was pushing credibility. I am not convinced it is all it seems.

@composerjalen 4 ай бұрын

This is a live recording, and there are videos of this pianist playing Alkan and Liszt at mindbending speeds. He's very real

@RobouteGuill1man 4 ай бұрын

I did not believe it either but this is barely in the top 5 of the most impressive things he's done... He has played Le Preux, Liszt etude 4b s140, Lucrezia de Borgia, on live competition livestreams that are all here on KZfaq, 33% faster than any other recording. The Spanish fantasy is also several minutes faster than what other technically skilled pianists are capable of. Welcome to the rabbit hole. As another note he had this Carmenfantasie programmed for one of the recent competitions (I think Ljubljana Piano Competition, where some of his other videos are from) for the 3rd round but didn't advance. A shame as we would've had this performance on video .

@leomiller2291 Ай бұрын

@@RobouteGuill1manhow the hell does this pianist not advance???

@stefanbernhard2710 28 күн бұрын

@@leomiller2291Jealous and paid off judges. That's how.

@rravvia 10 ай бұрын

I find this really awful.

@collinm.4652 10 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t hold it against ya. There’s a lot going on

@therealtruetwelfth798 4 ай бұрын

Great piece. Pianist is a charlatan. 👎👎

@user-cz6se1ve5k 4 ай бұрын

Charlatan ? Maybe you could upload this music performed by yourself and show us what it's like when someone isn't a charlatan??

@chillmemes5865 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@user-cz6se1ve5kAre you implying someone has to sell their soul to be good at piano?

@user-cz6se1ve5k 2 ай бұрын

@@chillmemes5865 Nope. For me charlatan has a different meaning. So, it was just a misunderstanding from my side. How ever, I don't think He sold his soul to anybody. He just has a technical ability about speed, what we never seen in the recorded piano history.