Joseph Liebgott - Did Band of Brothers Get His Story right?

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Ай бұрын

Joseph Liebgott was a member of Easy Company 506th PIR. He was portrayed in Band of Brothers by Ross McCall. We have seen how mistakes were made with other men in the series.

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@MrDdaland Ай бұрын

As a retired soldier, I think the main reason everyone assumed Liebgott was Jewish- he never denied it. Doing so more than likely got him off most Saturdays, and there is usually no training on Sundays........

@BobSmith-dk8nw Ай бұрын

Ha! Ha! Yeah. I can believe that! .

@robertjessen1554 Ай бұрын

Great information. Godspeed Joseph Liebgott 🙏🙏

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

@darbyheavey406 Ай бұрын

A lot of vets joined motorcycle clubs after the war…not surprising. Great research.

@ericb2501 9 күн бұрын

The Hells Angels was founded by USAAC Veterans

@averyretodo8159 4 күн бұрын

These are some crazy connections. Liebgott grew up close to the cities I grew up around the bay. Also his death is on my birthday. Truly fascinating. It’s sad to hear about his struggles during and after the war appreciate you being to light many untold stories about what most would consider legends

@WorldWarTruth 4 күн бұрын

6 degrees of separation as they say.

@gmaqwert Ай бұрын

His wife was beautiful

@Wildcat221 Ай бұрын

When he confirms the prisoner saying “Juden=Jews” in the series I almost keel over and die every time, so heartbreaking.

@BaseK59 Ай бұрын

if you research the Holodomor and what the Jewish communists did to millions of Christians, you won't feel so bad.

@petem7118 Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this mate…… one scene in the series which I did wonder if had happened was the final speech of the German general to his men and Liebgott’s translation to Winters…

@GaryArmstrongmacgh Ай бұрын

I knew almost nothing about any of my grandfathers who fought in WW2. My elders who fought in Vietnam were more open about it. I'm glad for them. I was glad to talk to them. But I guess it wasn't that way with that generation. Bless them all!

@Ralphieboy Ай бұрын

They found an actor who really looked like him

@DMUSA536 5 күн бұрын

Wild Bill too

@svbarr Ай бұрын

Yet another HERO...rest in peace

@ColinH1973 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this. It explains a lot.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

@kitchill Ай бұрын

Did anyone ever think that Liebgott may have told everyone he was Jewish, so no one would question his Austrian background? Aslo I am sure he really wanted to prove his loyalty to the US in the way he treated the POWs.

@AD13 Ай бұрын

Gosh.. I wish I knew all of these men personally…

@AD13 29 күн бұрын

Sure would.. just be more swell.. 🙄

@thecofieldcollection3792 Ай бұрын

God Bless the memory of Liebgott

@edlane9882 Ай бұрын

Don't be too judgmental about how this man acted until you've been there. You haven't earned the right.

@patrickmullane30 Ай бұрын

I got circumcised brother so I paid for it in skin 😂

@windhamearl4544 Ай бұрын

@@patrickmullane30🤣🤣🤣🤣

@windhamearl4544 29 күн бұрын

@@touristguy87 🤣🤣

@Weshopwizard 12 күн бұрын

@@patrickmullane30so you’re saying you have skin in the game?

@TheAtl0001 17 күн бұрын

It is almost incredible that some never share their experiences with their children or family. Just like in "The Victoria Cross: For Valour", fabulous storytelling by Jeremy Clarkson. (if you love BoB, you will love this docu) "...He never thought to mention it..." Major Cain never told his family he was awarded the Victoria Cross, they only found out after his death.

@WorldWarTruth 17 күн бұрын

I really liked that documentary.

@David-sk9vv 8 күн бұрын

I had a Great Uncle in Operation Market Garden @ Arnhem; Great Uncle in Burma, another in the Pacific and captured, staying in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp; came home with a disability. He was was pushing 6ft 6 I believe but came back so stooped the rest of his life due to the poor cages he was kept in. Very little is known of my family during the War, they never talked about it.

@ripvanwinkle2002 27 күн бұрын

American Badass.. 100% Semper Fi Joe Rest in Peace

@dodgermartin4895 Ай бұрын

It might be understandable the misidentification of Liebgott as Jewish. Webster indicated Liebgott was Jewish in his book.

@tenghiskhan2063 Ай бұрын

If I recall correctly, Liebgott was ethnically Jewish, his mother was of Jewish descent, though he was religiously Roman catholic

@dodgermartin4895 Ай бұрын

@@tenghiskhan2063 I just read something online that said both parents were Catholic

@tenghiskhan2063 Ай бұрын

@@dodgermartin4895 they probably were, but one can be ethnically Jewish but religiously practice something else

@dodgermartin4895 Ай бұрын

@@tenghiskhan2063 Under Jewish tradition, the Jewish ethnicity flows through the maternal line. If your mother was Jewish then you are Jewish. If your father was Jewish and your mother was not, then you are not Jewish; Jewish "ethnicity" does apply to you. From what I understand, and i could be wrong, Liebgott was not "ethnically" Jewish. But we do know he was raised as a Roman Catholic.

@BobSmith-dk8nw Ай бұрын

Veterans don't like to talk about things that went on in combat. What they like to do - is tell jokes - or stories about stupid - weird things that happened or that people did. The only time I can remember veterans talking about combat - was to other veterans - and then - to illustrate a point - like what a piece of shit the M-16 was. .

@Wildcat221 Ай бұрын

I’m an army combat vet. The only “veterans” who run around telling stories about deployments are most likely stolen valor or vastly exaggerating their stories.

@ripvanwinkle2002 27 күн бұрын

my A2 was flawless.. im glad at least they learned from the mistakes of the 16 and A1

@ncwoodworker Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing these stories. The haircut was revealed. And his German translator.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@fus149hammer5 Ай бұрын

It's obvious that the real story of those men in Band Of Brothers is more fascinating and more nuanced that it is in the series in fact, this shows how INACCURATE Band Of Brothers actually is. Almost every soldier from almost any war has a story to tell. It's down to us to make sure those stories are told and told truthfully. As much as I love the show ( it's my all-time favourite drama) the evidence now becoming public shows the writer Ambrose, the producers and researchers deserve a kick up the arse for making such gross errors in regards to the lives of such brave men. I'd go as far as to say they owe apologies to Liebgott, Blithe, Dike, Sobel and no doubt many others.

@edmundsmith7199 Ай бұрын

One of things I took issue with was Ambrose making out Easy company as being a premier force. I think the rest of the regiment would have taken issue with that. Reading Donald Burgett’s “Curahee!” Which came out much earlier, bears that out. Some of what he recounted is at odds with Ambrose’s recounting.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

I'm in the process of doing a video on Hank's 'ambition' for the show as I get a lot of people say that the series was only for entertainment purposes. If that's the case (which it is not) they should never use real names.

@rg20322 Ай бұрын

You can't have everything, and they chose Easy Company to depict this series. Choose another regiment and ring up Tom Hanks.

@krayzeejojo Ай бұрын

The resemblance is uncanny.

@jeroldpaquette9068 8 күн бұрын

A brave but injured and flawed man that needed the care of his country and his countrymen- that he likely never got.

@irvinelawrence2733 Ай бұрын

Shows why Sobel didn't quite complete his full preparation of Easy...surely if they were as tight as they claimed to be- they would know who was of which religion- they (Guanerre) even thought Winters was a Quaker... Dog tags were supposed to have had religion on them- that would be another bit of confirmation( get it 🌽 vs Bar Mizvah)😂😂 That is yet another small flaw in the accounts of servicemen- spun together without the Monday morning quarterback benefits we who watch BofBros saw... As for him disappearing on return- the concentration/labour camp experience may well have been more mentally taxing on him than combat firefights😢 Glad his children got to find a kernel of truth about him and put things in perspective 🕊

@ripvanwinkle2002 27 күн бұрын

not true some men cant stop speaking about faith and others take it very personally, im in the latter group.. no one i served with knew my specific faith

@irvinelawrence2733 26 күн бұрын

@@ripvanwinkle2002 For the civilians who see dog tags which are supposed to have details, including religion, on them- along with urinals and showers with exposed bodies...you telling me and the rest of us, that there was no way to have seen certain compelling evidence. The Germans where alleged to have made POWs expose their organs to check for circumcision... What makes this mix-up is the dialogue (real or imagined) between JoeLieb and WildBill en route to England where he says he was Jewish- Anyhow...small taters... As you were...carry on smartly...

@kbs5150 Ай бұрын

Dude, awesome bio. Just subscribe. Tell me this aint a AI genrated voice plz.

@mkcl9073 Ай бұрын

As I read more books and listen to videos like this one, it seems as if the BoB mini series Would have been so much better had they told the truth. Or put more context to characters. For example, Joe Toye was first gen American Irish- (Malarkey’s book) his portrayal in the series was maybe Italian. By far a great series.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Yes Joe Toye had a pretty heavy Irish accent.

@toddnesbitt3113 23 күн бұрын

Can’t say I’d be too friendly after getting clipped in the elbow.

@johnbush3610 Ай бұрын

Being Jewish does not mean you can't be Catholic. Obviously, he had Jewish ancestry based on his sir name

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

I get that but a large part of his portrayal in BOB was being revengeful because he was Jewish.

@JoshuaTootell Ай бұрын

My former grandfather in law (ex wife's grandfather) became catholic as a Polish Jew after surviving a extermination camp.

@davidbagley1783 5 күн бұрын

Awesome life

@michaelhayes9773 28 күн бұрын

From what I know, you got it right. He was one of my favorites in the series.

@nosignal88 Ай бұрын

Thank you

@John-se5vc Ай бұрын

I already realize inaccuracy on the part of Band of Brothers, and choose to believe Major Winters with regard to Albert Blithe's story. There may be some inaccuracy in the series with regard to Liebgott. Even with the presence of Roman Catholicism, I choose not to dismiss Jewishness in Liebgott's heritage. A lot of Jewish people I know have chosen to obfuscate their Jewishness in their present lives, but I believe there is indication of it in the case of Liebgott.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

I have seen a US Jewish registration document which was signed by Liebgott. He may have been part Jewish. The series kind of made a big deal of it however.

@davidl.abplanalp4478 7 күн бұрын

Ross McCall I saw him in an episode of PIE IN THE SKY>

@thomasbrown9402 Күн бұрын

Depicting a gentile as not only a Jew but proud and vengeful Jew - purely based on what his comrades knew of him - seems to be an even more egregious error than Blithe dying. The whole "drove his cab" statement in the epilogue seemed out of place as well, and now I know why. Fascinating.

@GravesRWFiA Ай бұрын

in his autobiography Compton reported he and Liebgot shot two GI's in normandy, they saw two men in SS rain gear sneaking down a hedge line, When they went to check the bodies they found both were paratroopers who threw on the rain capes to try and sneak into the german line, resulting in them being taken for germans, by their own side.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

That's interesting and not a story I have heard before. I wonder why they would want to sneak into enemy lines wearing SS smocks. They would have been shot if captured.

@SamBrickell Ай бұрын

Shooting your own soldiers, but while they are in the act of committing a war crime... That's an interesting one. :O

@ripvanwinkle2002 27 күн бұрын

@@SamBrickell donning a smock isnt a war crime it bears no markings of rank or nation

@daviddonaldson1482 Ай бұрын

You misspelled the capital city of Michigan

@williamt.little1972 Ай бұрын

It was a MOVIE - not a documentary. Enjoy it as such!

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Not according to Hanks and Spielberg. They wanted a living documentary, very different to Saving Private Ryan. You cant just 'make up' stuff about real people, especially veterans. Some of them lost their lives.

@Loosehead Ай бұрын

Liebgott was probably the origin of the story later attributed to Speirs about killing prisoners. Portrayed as a psychopath in the series.

@steves1015 Ай бұрын

No. Look up Spiers. The story about the 6 prisoners who were shot was definitely Spiers, and apparently Spiers even confirmed it to Winters in a letter, years after the war, after Winters asked Spiers outright what had happened.

@Loosehead Ай бұрын

@@steves1015 and again, no. Sparky Speirs said in the letter that he found the reputation useful, but it never happened.

@armyvet8279 28 күн бұрын

Yes it did happen loosehead

@alainclerc1742 Ай бұрын

It's Liebgott, not Leibgott. Thanks

@drdghattierdc Ай бұрын

Correct .german ei is our long I. Ie is our long E .

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

@frankgerace5997 7 күн бұрын

I didn’t know Liebgott was Catholic. Band of Brothers portrayed him as Jewish. Doesn’t really matter, but if he was Catholic, then the fight with Guarnere on the troopship didn’t happen, I guess.

@WorldWarTruth 7 күн бұрын

A lot of the men assumed he was Jewish because of his name. I don't know if he told anyone he was catholic as it was only really his children who brought the subject to light. He didn't have a grudge against the Germans because he was Jewish like they portrayed in the series. He just hated the regime like everyone else did.

@sentionaut6270 18 күн бұрын

he wasnt actually jewish. he just hated the nazis so much, everyone assumed he was.

@WorldWarTruth 18 күн бұрын

They also assumed he was Jewish because of his name.

@mer2705 Ай бұрын

I’m so happy that Easy company single handedly won WW2. Dick Winters should have been a 12 star general

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

You don't like Easy Company? My favourite unit of WW2 was D Company, British 6th Airborne who captured Pegasus (Benouville) Bridge on DDAY.

@mer2705 28 күн бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth it’s not that I don’t like them. I think they get way too much credit for the role they played.

@jimmib6143 Ай бұрын

Band of Brothers was a show, Not history. Get over it!

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

Noted

@scottsimmons7897 Ай бұрын

Band of Brothers was Hollywood hyped up dramatic BS, just like Saving Private Ryan. Look who produced it, Steven "ET, Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark " Spielberg.

@WorldWarTruth Ай бұрын

I don't mind a bit of hype because there are plenty of dreary documentaries around now but if you are going to use real names then it is important to get the facts straight as these people have living relatives.

@thomaspeacock7248 Ай бұрын

That’s not what the surviving members of Easy Company thought of the HBO production.

@Chris_the_Dingo Ай бұрын

You mean BofB isn't a documentary?!? Holy crap...I've been living a huge lie all these years

@scottsimmons7897 Ай бұрын

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@scottsimmons7897 Ай бұрын

@@thomaspeacock7248 Steven Ambrose was guilty of writing fiction into fact. Come on. It's TV and the victors write the history, not the vanquished; therefore , it's embellished. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grideZZ92pi7iIE.htmlsi=ZQIuQK1xUE2UQgRQ