Use Code ‘JOSH’ for 15% Off All Apparel & Chalk from Rúngne! ▶︎ rungne.info/JoshRundle Some of you may have seen this was uploaded yesterday but I had to take it down because of a glitch and re-upload it today! Sorry about that but hey at least you get to see Alex, Robin and me twice now haha

I like how he called Magnus to ask how he should pronounce "Rungne", he got an answer, and still called it rug-knee

i need more Alex! shes a great climber. as a 5ft 2 climber i loved watching her as most short climbers i have seen on youtube are 5ft 4

THIS COLLAB IS SICK !!

Nice video, but the thing that I find all small/tall comparison videos lack is the focus on ape-index. One of the main reasons IFSC world cup athletes are 'smaller' (average for men is around 1.75m) is because most of them have crazy plus ape-indexes. So if you're smaller and have long arms, you enjoy both benefits of being able to fit in small boxes but also being able to reach faraway holds.

It seems like height advantage is better at lower grades. Strength does not scale well with increased body weight and tall people are going to be heavier, so short people will have the advantage as increased strength to body weight is required for higher grades.

That orange v5 looked insanely hard for the grade lol

I loved the chemistry in this bit. Alex is so strong.

I always thought that me being tall has above anything one consequence: I learn less technique and do more things with bad technique. Meanwhile, shorter climbers may take another lap or two on some boulders, but they figure something out they can use in the future. So sometimes I purposefully try to finish a boulder without using my reach, especially on the last move. As soon as I cannot just reach something, I am more likely to be stumped.

Gosh, Alex is so pretty but so strong. I absolutely love the chemistry b/w all 3. Loved the collab, though I wonder why I watch these videos when I'm nowhere close to their level, haha.

In my climbing gyn, they've started setting 'shorty' boulders for children and very small climbers. They're set at a range of levels, to at least 6c. I'm little over 5ft5 so I often look with envy when a taller person can just reach. But doing those shorty boulders really helped me understand 'tall problems' a bit better. There were quite a few where I just couldn't get the start because I found it hard to fit in the box. Would be cool to do a comparison with the same person and two versions of the same boulder, where with one the holds are way further apart and the other way closer to mimick height difference (and cut out more other variables).

Alex is such a beast! it’s unreal

Oh man, Alex Puccio was my ultimate crush when I was a student. Glad to see her on this channel, as strong and pretty as ever

Awesome video!

@24:02 amazing beta about power spots. Thank you for sharing this Alex.

Wow can't believe you got Alex in a video - she is an iiiiicon!

Love this video! Firstly as its at the Project and secondly with my favourite climber! I wasn't even there and I'm in awe 😱 oh and loving the banter between you 3!

@6:25 *experienced Alex. I look up to Lynn Hill as to how I trained. There certainly is an age difference between myself and Lynn, yet that kind of falls away when we talk about climbing. So as the younger student, it’s a privilege to learn from masters.

Great video. Good banter !

Great video, always interesting hearing the perspective being a 6.3 climber myself. A lot of people do say "it's because you're tall". Awesome to see you down my local also!

Love to see the project in a video, I'd fallen off of a bunch of those while they were still up 😂

Alex is incredible! Love to see her on the channel

@8:03, love how causal Alex is. Like plenty guys who are body building, their arms dont look nearly this defined for their height and body mass. This comes from doing what you love and probably not caring about visuals.

Being tall (or at least not short) is a massive advantage as a beginner. At a more advanced grade it is more even or at least not a massive advantage being tall.

I'm 5ft and there are some slab settings in my local that I just can't do because the holds are beyond my reach to static, and they're not routes you can be explosive/dynamic on. Such a shame because I actually love slab 😢

that was a surprise you were climbing at my local gym hope you enjoyed it, keep up the great content

It's funny how much of a debate this is when you can very clearly see in the comp stats that climbing tends to favor "average" height people. I always joke about the benefit of being "average man height," even though i am tall for a woman at 5'10" i usually don't find to many routes at the gym that are insanely reachy or bunchy for me.

You cracked me up several times on this video, definitely subscribing after this one

@06:18 Thought Josh was about to say: "I always looked up to Alex.. and now she's looking up to me" 😂

love their reaction to "2nd place of first place looser" 11:50

Sehr schönes und interessantes Video. Immer wieder toll anzusehen. Alex Puccio und Mina Markovic sind die hübschesten Frauen im Klettersport.

I definitely side with alex!! I am the same height as Alex and have a -6cm ape index... I have recently moved to Sweden where I am SHORT and the amount of boulder moves I can't do the intended beta for is mad. It's about 60% of problems, there will be a move I have to find an alternative method for. There's also a few I have decided not to do for safety reasons (don't want to have to make a health insurance claim if I crack my head open) where something will unintentionally become a downwards dyno, and there's a large hold or volume in the fall area. Hard no to that. Then I see someone like my partner who is 5'10 come along and do it easy peasy. I'm still in the process of learning not to get mad over it lol

Loved Alex’s competitive energy in this

Alex is absolutely amazing foot work technique its on another level. good luck to her on future comps.

Standing at 6.6 feet (200 cm), I can say that being tall is a substantial advantage for boulder climbs up to 6b. In this range, technique is not too critical yet, and it's often possible to just go from a good hold to another. For harder grades, it depends, but especially from 6c+ upwards, it often becomes a disadvantage. "Fitting into the box" and leverage can be problematic for taller climbers. Particularly with super small crimps and small-coin-like foot holds, it's always a disadvantage since fitting on them becomes harder. Professional climbers are rarely tall, for good reason. Anyway, in lead climbing, being tall is less frequently a problem.

Does Alex do much YT? She's pretty awesome to watch. Some pretty funny commentary XD

B1, Josh because of his speed. B2 Josh because he did the reach to crimp static. B3, Alex obvious win. B4, Josh for his beta break. B5 Alex, pure power looking like an 80s action figure in that tank top and got closer. B6 Alex dominated! B7 Alex is just so strong. My score, Alex 4 Josh 3.

Awesome video! I wonder if the best height for a climber is to be medium like 5 foot 9, would be awesome to see a 1v1v1 tall v medium v short 😂

Say "oh this was set by a short person" sound like a skill issue very frequently as a short person I have to do a crazy dyno that was never intended from my position because I can't reach during a static climb

Go team tall! I hate the climbs that have a start where you have to generate tension by spanning and pushing with your arms but theres not even enough room to get my arms straight or compression cause the holds are relatively closer for taller people. Reach and big moves is the advantage of being tall and I find most gyms dont set with taller climbers in mind. They set so that taller climbers cant "cheat" problems but then set starting positions that are literally impossible for me to hold or move from.

I like the moral of the stories, because in the end we can change our height and it is what it is. Its not like we all aspire to be olympic climber and for the majority of us, if we can go in the double digit grade we will be really proud. We do not need to have the perfect climbing body to achieve that, just some hard work. That said, I do believe the harder the grade get, the more the smaller climber will have an advantage, mostly because they will have stronger finger and stronger shoulder pound for pound. At least that's my interpretation of the stats where most high level climber are under 5 foot 9. Taller climbers (over 6 foot) than to be outlier. I do find that smaller climber then progress faster. For the same reason than X pounds of force they develop make them stronger pound for pound.

I'm about 5"10 and I go climbing with my friend who is about 5"5. Despite me not being tall there are so many times where I can do a climb easily and he struggles purely based on my height advantage.

@18:08, I dont have your strength Alex. Being the same height (maybe slightly longer arm span though): I think its correct to be to the right. Using the left most hold to stand onto. (In a noncomp setting: the setter should have given the short people a far right crimp as a transition. Cause this looks the correct beta for us, than having to go low to the left and stand up to nothing lol)

16:35 i love how Alex absolutely takes no shit from Josh. She's such a personality.

Lol, awesome chemistry on this collab Josh! But my favorite part was when you called Magnus, Maggy boo🤣

12:57 Alex has a really nice technique! 👍 .

Emil Abrahamsson once said "I'm very good at being tall". I'm _only_ good at being tall, but very often it makes up for my lack of strength or technique

I think it’s easier to be a tall beginner and intermediate climber but harder once you start breaking into the more advanced grades because you can’t just reach and grab and have to actually have technique

This is my home gym! Awesome to see filming there but why is there no shout out for the gym?

6:18 I always looked up to Alex... now she looks up to me!

Being a tall climber is technically cheating 😂 what a good collab - I have seen Alex on Hannah’s channel before and i really enjoyed this video with the comparison of tall vs short :) thank you Josh, always love the vids 😊

I loved the banter with Alex haha

Alex is a beauty

Seems to me that it all depends on how tall the person was who graded the climb. The more you differ from them (not just in height, but also in weight and ape index), the less accurate the grade will be for you personally. Comp setters know who's in the comp and set accordingly and try not to discriminate against anyone. Plus, the females don't compete against the males, who would on average be taller, so that favors average females (not the case in commercial gyms, of course). I've heard a few times that height differences would matter less in the higher grades. Can someone explain why? Setters don't suddenly put the holds closer together. Of course tall people can't rely solely on their reach anymore, but they can learn technique and train strength. Shorties can't get taller.

6:17 I thought you were going to be like " I always looked up to alex but now i'm looking down at you"

21:45 Is that a hold on the side of the board that's lit up? That's so cool.

When are you going to collab with magnus..?

Hey Josh, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made. I was wondering if I could help you edit your videos and repurpose your long videos into highly engaging shorts? I can also make high CTR thumbnails for your channel

Alex is funny, MORE ALEX

Is that boulder with the white stars that Josh set still up after over a year?

hahaha as a short climber, gonna have to side with alex here 🤭

I wish you guys had just projected the boulders rather than requiring a flash or a second try flash. I was more interested in seeing you solve the problems than in the competition to see who could climb it in the fewest tries.

I'd like to know if someone can build muscle with climbing. Many people say you cannot, they say you gain a los of strength but very little muscle. But the I see some people like Puccio and I think "well, she does have very good amount of muscle and she is a climber" so I wonder if she also lift wheights at the gym or she gain her muscles only with climbing??? 🤔

The ape index makes your arms look short or hers long. Short is overpowered because you can always be more dynamic.

cool

Protect Alex at all cost

I wanna know what shoes she's wearing :D They look dope.

what was the glitch

My wife and I have a foot difference and this was awesome to see Alex smash Josh

this short vs tall climber stuff is nonsense.. 100% better to be taller.. there will be the occasional boulder that suits a smaller climber.. but the vast majority being taller is a huge advantage.

Is this a reupload?

Alex remains most beautiful woman in climbing after all these years.

Why was the video uploaded yesterday and then again today? 🤔

Where is this gym? Interesting old school actual gym?

The glitch is gone. 😭

"Come on"

When he says he looked up to her he defo means he fancied her

awwww i was saying it correct and I'm American

I like aggressive climbing 😭

Alex is a fking monster...

🗽 Funny, the coach has the most tape on his fingers... 😜 .

Josh trying to help solidify the meme that rock climbers are one big polycule

I hear this a lot as a taller climber, if I don’t fit then I need to be more flexible but if I can reach its “cheating”

I'm 4'11" and I go climbing with my 6'3" gf, and yeah, being tall really helps her. I'm a lot better of a climber than her, but she can almost climb the same climbs I can, just because she is so damn tall, and I am so damn short.

Doesn't body weight make a huge difference? I'd like to see Alex climb with a 100lb weight vest.

snail

Josh needed a crack problem to bust out his wideboyz training.

Magnus already sells his deodorant, it's called "Magdust".

The same can be said for being short! There are equally the amount of tall people climbs that there are short people climbs!

People use height as an excuse more than it really does affect someone’s performance. If you can’t physically reach that’s 1 thing but outside of that I think it’s overhyped on its importance

Is this even a real question? The advantage always goes to the lighter climber, obviously.

V10 isn't really an "amature" climber. That's borderline between pro and the very top of advanced. Thats better than 99.9% of climbers. She on the other hand is like 0.01% elite.

Come climbing in Asia and you will see the downside of being a tall climber (above 6ft)😢

Bro if YOU an ameteur than I'm an ameba.

Magnus Musk 🤣

is it me or does she have some big ass hands for someone that's 5'3?

so v10 is amateur now? cmawn bruh

Isn't this obvious the shorter people are just lighter? This is why there are no tall climbers in competitions.

adam ondra said being smaller is an advantage, so watching this is pointless for me, bye

Bro, dont snail people. That makes me super mad